From Joe Bastardi at WeatherBell:
Been warning anyone that will listen for over 2 weeks now about April 1-10. Check out GFS lows next Wednesday
He adds:
EURO [forecast model] Going roidian on multiple cold shots, snow threats April 1-10
That’s a deep trough. Coupled with cold, it looks like winter wonderland for much of the northeast in the first week of April.
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And when the cold hits the Northeast, all the news will probably be about the warmth in Alaska.
Spring is getting later in Europe too.
“Spring is getting later in Europe too.”
Really? – more unsupportable hand-waving…..
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Season_creep
“In Europe, season creep has been associated with the arrival of spring moving up by approximately one week in a recent 30-year period.Other studies have put the rate of season creep measured by plant phenology in the range of 2–3 days per decade advancement in spring, and 0.3–1.6 days per decade delay in autumn, over the past 30–80 years.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5279390.stm
Well, no-one told our snowdrops, they were more than a week later this year than last year.
Oldseadog
Your snowdrops don’t count – they weren’t peer reviewed!
\sarc
Tone, The BBC may be many things but data it is not.
Falling back on the last 30 years is a familiar security blanket for arguing for warming, taking advantage of the upswing of the AMO.
But even over this timescale, there is data supporting spring in Europe (Germany) becoming later:
http://notrickszone.com/2015/04/02/cooling-europe-temperature-vegetation-data-show-central-european-springs-starting-later/#sthash.iaUz11HA.dpbs
“The BBC may be many things but data it is not.”
If you’d read the article it would have led you to the paper ….
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2486.2006.01193.x/abstract?systemMessage=Due+to+essential+maintenance,+access+to+the+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+on+Sunday,+19th+Dec+%2710+between+10:00-12:00+GMT.
Of and “notrickszone” may be many things but data it most definitely is not.
I also posted a link to Wiki that linked to papers (data).
Granted, over 1971-2000 springs got earlier.
Surfing the old AMO again!
I’ll repeat – it’s already 2016 – this paper is 16 years out of date.
Right now, springs are getting later.
(It’s our turn to surf the AMO.)
belousov: “Right now, springs are getting later.
(It’s our turn to surf the AMO.)”
Damn those ~60 year cycles, they really mess up the Warmies’ linear regressions!
What is snow?
Really did LOL with that one.
Funniest comment of the day award!
If this event comes to pass it will decimate the number of Warmist Faithful in the North Eastern USA, who have been told relentlessly and incessantly for many years than ‘snow is a thing of the past’ or that ‘spring is arriving earlier and earlier’ etc etc.
Whilst this single event will not in itself totally convince people that the Warmist Narrative is false, it will convince them that it is flawed and will undermine the position of the Anointed Ones.
I note with glee the number of Warmist Trolls who have rocked up on this thread to snipe and insult and undermine the regular commentators…and all I can say is ‘welcome guys!, the fact that you’re here is all the proof we need that the CAGW faith is close to collapse!
December was warm! And it got colder and colder each month since and I live near Canada…we are grinding our teeth today, viewing what is coming down on us. It will be colder than January! This is scary as all heck.
And el Nino is over, basically. La Nina is breathing on us with her icy breath.
emsnews
March 31, 2016 at 4:36 am wrote”
“December was warm! And it got colder and colder each month since and I live near Canada…we are grinding our teeth today, viewing what is coming down on us. It will be colder than January! This is scary as all heck.”
It got colder *because* December was warm. The weather always swings back and forth. A warm winter can lead to a cold spring.
The year 1936, had some of the hottest weather in recent history, and it also had the coldest winter in history. So the temperature pendulum swings way out to on side, the hot side, and then it swings back to the other side, the cold side, and the magnitude of one swing is reflected in the other.
That’s my theory anyway, and I’m sticking to it. 🙂
charles nelson,
Dec 2015 to February 2016 was the warmest Dec-Feb period on record globally according to all surface and satellite data sources. It was the warmest winter period on record for the northern hemisphere according to all sources and the warmest winter in the US since records began in 1895 according to NOAA.
That being the case, it’s difficult to see exactly how belief in AGW theory would be “close to collapse”, given that these observations are pretty much in line with expectations re AGW’s effect on global temperatures.
DWR54
March 31, 2016 at 9:49 am wrote:
“Dec 2015 to February 2016 was the warmest Dec-Feb period on record globally according to all surface and satellite data sources.”
Well, the satellite data sources only go back to 1979, and it is still a matter of controversy as to whether it really is the warmest in this short time period.
The surface temperture data provided by NASA and NOAA are BIG LIES that should not be used in our calculations of what is hottest.
A real, unadulterated surface temperature chart would show we have been in a cooling trend since the 1930’s, up to, and including this year 2016, so this “hottest evah!” bs is just that.
TA
If we’ve been in a cooling trend since the 1930s then how come all the satellite data sets show warming since 1979?
Dear DWR54
As most of the ‘warming’ took place in the Arctic and Siberia you would have to ask yourself how the ‘warmth’ got there? It certainly didn’t come from the sun which barely rises above the horizon in Feb…so the the answer is it got there in the form of water vapour carried from the oceans by the wind.
Now bearing in mind that the ‘warming’ was in the range of MINUS 30 to MINUS 15˚C you would have to ask yourself what happened to all that water vapour when it got to the polar regions…and froze?
Think now.
See?
Now is a good time to remember to use the phrase “Global Warming” and refuse to use the phrase “Climate Change”.
Thanks for the heads-up, Joe.
iceagenow.info have been saying this for almost a week already
http://iceagenow.info/record-cold-headed-u-s-midwest-east-2/
As soon as we get some cold temps the warmist apologists arrive on the comment thread to shout, “but…but…but…Cliimaate Chaaange!…Carbon pollution!…Evil man!….Smash capitalism!”
It’s getting rather predictable, I’m afraid.
Yes, 2015 apparently the warmest year ever, real, imaginary or just made up.
According to the data in the N. Hemisphere we have about 15 years or so of benign climate, and than it is all downhill for another 30 years.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/CruTempNH.gif
vukcevic
This is an interesting graph. If you look at similar pattern starting in 2006. you can see similarities between the dust bowl era. this seemed to last in each case 7 years for most areas and 11 years to complete it’s cycle.
Hi Tom
I think the most striking feature is that the temp rise 1910-1945 period is precisely matched by one of 1975-2010, with just one single step-up of 0.35C. I just can’t see how that could be convincingly explained by the AGW hypothesis.
p.s. ‘phoenix’ palm trees along Mediterranean are being decimated by palm tree weevils (apparently came with imports from Argentina), it is such a sad sight; is Florida ok?
I case you Northerners were wondering where all the missing heat is going it’s all predicted for Oz cities-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscribe/news/1/index.html?sourceCode=AAWEB_WRE170_a&mode=premium&dest=http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/technology/climate-change-how-australias-capital-cities-will-be-hotter-and-drier-by-2050/news-story/097b08a5202fea989ac91d56214c739b&memtype=registered
Yeah I know it’s paywalled but you get the gist of it from the usual local Adelaide rag headline and there’s no way intelligent people pay for that dross. And they wonder why newspapers can’t turn a quid?
It would be very unfortunate if the Vermont or New York AGs would be leading their inquisitors to torture the “truth” out of Exxon execs when a blizzard shuts down the highway in April trapping the entire inquisition team on the highway for days. Imagine the turmoil in the spin doctors’ houses as they try to turn that to their favor in the press.
But fun to watch
Remember this has absolutely no connection to the fact that man made global warming is a complete lie and a fraud this is something totally new never before seen in the earths 5 billion year long historical record called a ‘polar vortex’.
Bush’s Fault.
Maybe Trump’s.
Global warming …. lol ….. dumb asses …..
“Arctic blast for Northeast USA to give snow, 10’s and 20’s to New York, Boston”
Snow in April is clear proof of life-ending man-made global warming. March being warmer than normal in the northeast is also clear proof of global warming.
Oh, and before you disagree, remember, denial of AGW is also proof of AGW.
69 F in NYC right now, 74 tomorrow. It’s still March.
Cold snap in April? Shit happens. We’ve had worse. Still an absurdly mild winter.
Overnight on the 4th looks like it will just get to freezing. Big wad of warm air just off the coast.
lovely rainbow cartoons! kindergartens make these but don’t demand that others believe it is real.
The real temps will be in the 40s and 50s. Nice clickbait article 🙁
[we’ll see Mr. “Champion”, we’ll see. Meanwhile good job of obfuscating yourself, to stand up for what you truly believe the forecast will be -mod]
I’ll go with Weatherbell rather than your forcast – care to bet? I remember just north of Philadelphia in the early 80’s on April 3rd it snowed and for 3 days the 3 or 4 inches of snow blew around with very cold weather, closing local roads because of heavy drifting. I remember the migrating birds (mostly robins) would be grouped on cleared roads, rather than standing in the snow covered fields or lawns…
The Weather channel is predicting a low of 16 on next Tues in Albany. Seems pretty chilly to me.
You’re pandering to fear mongering with the publication of such drivel. My obfuscation is irrelevant in what will be the actual forecast. Will there be a follow up article after April 1-10’s 10s and 20s temperatures massacre the affected areas? Will there be coverage? Will there be pictures and on the street interviews or will you just move on to another fluff piece?
{the IP from this fake commenter comes from a personal computer at Columbia University in NYC. It seems a perfect representation of academic standards there. -mod}
@Mr..G
Well it’s the morning of April 5th, and the results are in. Looks like 27F in Central Park, NYC, and 28-29F in Washington DC this morning. Looks like your prediction was off by 10-23+ degrees F.
Next 7 to10 might be interesting as it looks like a ice age weather pattern maybe forming not only in America but also in europe. High pressure is looking to build over NW America with a powerful jet stream running around it. Which will drive cold air down across NE America and with low pressure sitting there. Then late season heavy snowfall is on the cards. Now when America gets this jet stream set up it normally drives warm air up across europe. But a Greenland high looks to be forming and will extend across to northern europe. Shutting off the warm air and bringing cold air down from the north and pushing it across europe. Been waiting 3 years for this ice age weather pattern set up. So it will be interesting to see how strong its affects will be. Now that its the spring as well as having recent warming. This could be a real insight into how the NH climate moves from warming and into ice age formation over time
Sorry “next 7 to 10 days”
Remember April 6, 1982; and April 9, 1996, in the New York area. Heavy snow the first ten days in April is unusual, but not likely to set any records.
Contrast that with April 7, 2010, when the New York area reached 90 degrees. Also recall April 17 – 19, 1976, when the highs in New York were 93, 96 and 91, respectively.
Some great temperature swings are possible in April!
This would have NEVER happened if Al Gore was still alive.
Isn’t NASA about due for it’s annual pronouncement of “Warmest Year on Record!”?
Love the comments.
Al Gore is not a scientist, but he predicated all this! Sea level rises of over 400 feet, before civilization even started! But in the next 100 years, maybe another one meter. And he predicted that this warm period would involve freezing blizzards from May through July, because that’s what happens to the weather when it gets really, really warm, oh, what a visionary!
But he failed to mention that reducing global population might help slow CO2 emissions, because then how would the Demochit Party be able to continue to bring in more and more CO2 belching Mexicans without anyone making a connection?
I pity any lunatic who fails to parrot this heroic figure!
Thanks for good work. Any thoughts on this: Astronomers now aware of global warming on planet Mars. Ignored by many because contradictory to favorite narrative we must all bow down to.