No April Fools Joke – Arctic blast for Northeast USA to give snow, 10's and 20's to New York, Boston

From Joe Bastardi at WeatherBell:

Been warning anyone that will listen for over 2 weeks now about April 1-10. Check out GFS lows next Wednesday



He adds:

EURO [forecast model] Going roidian on multiple cold shots, snow threats April 1-10


That’s a deep trough. Coupled with cold, it looks like winter wonderland for much of the northeast in the first week of April.

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March 30, 2016 3:58 pm

Enjoy the Frosty NY

Reply to  William
March 30, 2016 6:52 pm

That’s not an Arctic blast its climate change – See we told you so!

Reply to  TG
March 30, 2016 7:55 pm

nuff pc talk, this is raw uncut greenhouse fect and it ain’t heppy … stop making carbon! .. suffer record snow … pick one1 … prolly too late.
north west passage jaunt will be fiiiiiiiine! … et’s hot up there donchaknow?,69.53,325/loc=-64.195,71.271

Reply to  TG
March 31, 2016 5:59 am

Who’s this WE you’re talking about?

Reply to  TG
March 31, 2016 9:32 am

Climate Change = WEATHER you unicorn poop eating child.

Reply to  TG
March 31, 2016 9:15 pm

I thought it was global warming, oh no cooling, oh.never mind global climate change

Reply to  TG
April 1, 2016 11:05 am

Well, we do know the Sun’s path oscillates back and forth as it circles the earth. Seems to be a seasonal thing with it.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  William
March 30, 2016 7:25 pm

Mondo chilly in Toronto and Ottawa, too,

Reply to  William
March 30, 2016 8:07 pm

Split up more wood, and left the horses to shed naturally. Ain’t May yet, folks, and this is New England. Beware the Pogonip!

Reply to  William
March 31, 2016 1:04 am

Time to develop a new skill to prepare for a cooling planet. 😰

Reply to  AB
March 31, 2016 6:58 pm


george e. smith
Reply to  William
March 31, 2016 12:35 pm

Well get a load of all of those nano-counties back there in the Eastern USA.
They have counties/burroughs/shires/parishes/whatever, some of them smaller than my garage.
No wonder they have so many politicians back East. Everybody is a chief.

Reply to  george e. smith
April 1, 2016 2:18 am

yeah like my county (bergen , nj) only 246.671 sq mi but a population of 938,506. That’s 50% more people than oh say DENVER.

March 30, 2016 3:59 pm

Imagine if this wasn’t the warmest year ever…

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 30, 2016 4:10 pm

So it looks like Holden’s “personal opinion ” was correct: extreme coldness is caused by global warming. So unless we cut emissions NOW the coming La Nina could be very cold indeed.
Then we’ll need more heating; more emissions leading to more cold weather. This “could” reach a tipping point eventually leading to so much global warming it could trigger the next glaciation.

Reply to  Greg
March 30, 2016 8:37 pm

And then the seas would contract back into glaciers and more of Florida would come out of the ocean again!

Reply to  Greg
March 31, 2016 3:52 am

You forgot the /sarc

Reply to  Greg
March 31, 2016 7:11 am

So what’s news about the coming Ice Age? Don’t forget taxes, mental retardation, rednecks and Donald Trump are all caused by Global Warming. AlGore told me!

Reply to  Greg
March 31, 2016 8:10 am

Sadly—this is exactly what “they” the global warming crowd will say, The melting of the glaciers in the artic circle will cause a major shift in the salinity of the water, the gulf stream will reverse pushing cold water far south, which will lower the jet stream by several hundred miles. This will expand the amount of ARTIC VORTEXES which will lead to massive snowfall across the entire North American Continent. We are ALL DOOMED! DOOMED!

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 30, 2016 4:20 pm

Imagine if people were able to make the distinction between weather and climate…

FJ Shepherd
Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 4:26 pm

Imagine if climate alarmists gave credit to El Nino for the warmest year evah, rather than claiming it was all because of AGW.

Pat Frank
Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 4:49 pm

benben, climate models have no predictive value. There’s no scientific evidence that human CO2 emissions have done anything to the global climate (except as a possible side-effect of verified global greening).
So, paraphrasing you, Imagine if people were able to make the distinction between science and the climate scare.

Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 5:02 pm

FJ Shepherd: Well, I imagine that you guys must think Hansen is about as “alarmist” as they get and here is his discussion of 201: Note the sentence in the abstract that says, “The 2015 temperature was boosted by a strong El Niño, nearly of the same strength as the 1998 ‘El Niño of the century’.”
So, in fact, you have created a complete strawman. Who you call “alarmists” and most people call “scientists” have discussed this rationally. It is some other who have been less rational and have attempted to say that the fact that there was an El Nino means that the record warmth is ascribable only to this and not to the combination of the gradually rising baseline due to AGW and then the positive fluctuation due to El Nino.

Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 5:19 pm

yeah yeah Pat I know your opinion. But confusing weather and climate is a pretty ridiculous thing to do for someone who actually writes on a blog dedicated to climate change, wouldn’t you agree?

Don Perry
Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 5:48 pm

Yes, benben, the alarmists confuse weather and climate all the time, depending on whether the weather supports their dogma or not.

Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 5:49 pm

Well if by “people” you mean the climastrologists, then you have a point:

Leland Neraho
Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 5:51 pm

Imagine if real climate scientists read your replies or looked at your upside down charts.

Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 5:53 pm

For those who didn’t get the memo:
2011: Weather is now climate
“A few years ago, talking about weather and climate change in the same breath was a cardinal sin for scientists.
Now it has become impossible to have a conversation about the weather without discussing wider climate trends, according to researchers who prepared the Australian Climate Commission’s latest report.
Previously, ”weather is not climate” was the mantra, but now the additional boost from greenhouse gases was influencing every event.
It might even be the case that the mantra chanted after every catastrophic weather event – that it can’t be said to be caused by climate change, but it shows what climate change will do – has become a thing of the past.”
November 12, 2009
“Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather in the United States,” says Gerald Meehl, the lead author and a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR).
Weather is when it’s cold as well as hot.

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 6:03 pm

benben in truth you really can’t separate the two climate is the chef and weather is that which is served. Now you ordered a fajita, and you have just been served… cold cuts.
p.s. sorry no grey poupon.

Tsk Tsk
Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 7:58 pm

Imagine if benben were able to recall what Barry’s court astrologer claimed about arctic oscillations…

Reply to  benben
March 30, 2016 11:49 pm

“benben, climate models have no predictive value. There’s no scientific evidence that human CO2 emissions have done anything to the global climate (except as a possible side-effect of verified global greening).”
If you say so Pat – it must be true.
Stands to reason, eh?

Reply to  Toneb
March 31, 2016 12:00 am

Just about anything ‘stands to reason’ compared with the juvenile ‘benben’.
Funny you should play his big brother. Makes you look pretty desperate.

david smith
Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 2:57 am

I’m going to remember your sarcastic aside Benben.
Whenever I next see you lurking about on comment threads on various blogs and you’re getting all crazy about a hot day I can remind you that it’s “just weather”
For years and years warmists have shouted about “global warming” and telling us that every day is going to be sweltering, but whenever the globe hasn’t been warm you start screaming, “but that’s wethaaaar!!!”. It’s your ultimate get-out clause.
Warmists are absolutely full of it; that’s why your average man on the street quite rightly thinks CAGW is a non-starter:

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 3:53 am

“Imagine if climate alarmists gave credit to El Nino for the warmest year evah, rather than claiming it was all because of AGW.”
Imaging if things happened that are never going to happen in a million years.

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 8:35 am

Joel Shore,
Some scientists are good about not blaming weather
and El nino for climate change. Many others are not.
There is also a big difference for many of them between
what they write in a paper and what they put in the abstract,
what the university publicity office says about the paper,
what the press says about the paper, and most importantly,
what the scientist says to the press about the paper.
Hansen is clearly alarmist about the next 50 to 300 years
w.r.t. sea level rise and in his most recent online pub, he goes
so far that many climate alarmists even say he is out there.

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 9:22 am

Yes, imagine that everyone could/would make that distinction. Now imagine that you, in the past, had pointed out the distinction to the folks you know every time the MSM and the CAGW zealots would associate a heat event with long term catastrophes. Now imagine you doing the same thing in the future.
Do you have that vivid of an imagination?

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 9:24 am

… kinda like “confusing” the terms investment & subsidy. (do they do it on purpose, when it suits them, or are they just ignorant?)

L. M. Yates
Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 12:04 pm

Imagine if you weren’t public school welfare fodder and could read a thermometer.
And that your scientists didn’t get busted and admit adding every single tenth degree to global records since 1998 like Phil Jones did in his Feb 2010 BBC don’t-go-to-jail interview.
And sue a man for telling people what a liar he is and lie in the lawsuit that he had won a Nobel Prize, so the man was calling a Nobel Prize winner,
a sleazy liar.
Imagine if all that didn’t happen. Imagine if your scientific leadership James Hansen didn’t tell you
”there’s a runaway green house effect on Venus” until you stumbled out of public school barely able to scratch your name, only to find out here on W.U.W.T that you can calculate the temperature of Earth, Venus, Mars – all just fine, with standard gas equations.
Imagine you’re the person who believed all that crap, and you came into a place filled with scientific bloggers and told those people they don’t understand ‘thuh signts”
but the craven criminopaths and liars you showed up toting water for, do.

March 30, 2016 at 4:20 pm
Imagine if people were able to make the distinction between weather and climate…

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 12:24 pm

toneb: All you have to do to realize that the models have no predictive value is to compare their predictions to reality.

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 3:50 pm

Who is confusing “weather with climate”? What group of people are you talking about? I see nothing but a post discussing a sharp drop in temps over the eastern US. Interesting, is it not?

Reply to  benben
March 31, 2016 5:46 pm

All Benben (lame troll) and his fellow hysterians do is talk about weather, a flood, a bit of snow, some rain, no rain. After 10 years of whinging weather is not climate, all they talk about is weather now.
All weather is proof apparently, except when it isn’t.
Hot day = climate change, ship of fools = just weather

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 30, 2016 4:32 pm

So it can be cold for a few days in the some parts of the U.S and yet still have record heat elsewhere on Earth…who knew!

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  spaatch
March 30, 2016 5:42 pm

RE Joel:
And the rest of the discussion – global warming has reached 1 deg, etc.
How much have they adjusted temperatures? How much data is fiction – filled in? 40 percent give or take.

Reply to  spaatch
March 30, 2016 7:16 pm

spaatch, yeah Crutem4 has 5583 surface stations, 1064 in the contiguous USA, for 19%, whilst representing about 6% of the earth’s land surface. So the contiguous USA is over-represented by surface stations. The Southern Hemisphere meanwhile has at best 12% of the surface stations.
So tell me about GLOBAL temperatures.

david smith
Reply to  spaatch
March 31, 2016 3:00 am

Yep, that’s why the warming is not “global”
Hot in one place, cold in another. It’s what the Earth has been like since time began and nothing to do with our minimal contribution to a trace gas.

L. M. Yates
Reply to  spaatch
March 31, 2016 12:19 pm

[snip – multiple policy violations. Fake name, Tor server, incoherent rant accusing people of being criminals -mod]

James Bull
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 31, 2016 3:47 am

I do like a good belly laugh in the morning thank you Eric.
James Bull

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 31, 2016 6:43 am

Yes, then the forecast would be for ‘9s and 19s’ rather than ’10s and 20s’

Lucius von Steinkaninchen
March 30, 2016 4:04 pm

Obviously, that’s caused by Global Warming. It can cause *anything*, after all.

March 30, 2016 4:15 pm

Oh, No, not right in the middle of the hottest year Evah! How could that possibly happen! It must be caused by Global Warming, folks.

March 30, 2016 4:19 pm

From the second map, single digits in western MA. North Adams: 5, Pittsfield: 6, and that is F, not C. Low double digits throughout the rest of the state. Well, we did have an exceptionally mild Feb. But still, Brrrrrrr.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  TonyL
March 30, 2016 4:43 pm

My friends laughed at me when I quoted the Farmers Almanac on the progression from winter to spring. Tee-hee.

March 30, 2016 4:30 pm

More proof of Global Warming.
Will it ever end?

Reply to  JohnWho
March 30, 2016 6:57 pm

Not if they can help it.

March 30, 2016 4:34 pm

According to the AER:
‘If the AO does turn sharply negative as predicted in the most recent model runs then below normal temperatures should become more widespread across Northern Eurasia and Eastern North America for the second half of April.’

Bubba Cow
March 30, 2016 4:37 pm

I’ll just have to keep the VT biomass burning. Feel the Bern !
Garden’s going to need the CO2 pretty soon …

Reply to  Bubba Cow
March 31, 2016 7:24 am

Heh you too eh? Nice and cozy with a wood stove, saves on dehumidifier in basement as well.

Conodo Mose
March 30, 2016 4:41 pm

Just in time for “Gore’s global warming on trial”

Tom Halla
Reply to  Conodo Mose
March 30, 2016 5:15 pm

It’s missing Gores press conference by over a week. Bad timing Gaia:-)

Reply to  Tom Halla
March 31, 2016 5:20 am

That would have been funny to see ManBearPig ankle deep in the snow blaming Exxon for Globull Warming.

March 30, 2016 4:42 pm

Yep. Just a little too early to put the tomatoes in the cold frame. Meanwhile, I hope the apple and pear buds don’t get frozen off.

Reply to  Jpatrick
March 30, 2016 7:51 pm

@jpatrick, I am more worried about peaches , cherries, apricots, right now they are way more in danger. Apples, pears are a lot hardier and later blooming. ( hey maybe they knew it was coming?).

Bruce Cobb
March 30, 2016 4:45 pm

This ‘extreme weather” event brought to you by Climate Change™.
Climate Change™; because you know it’s all your fault.

Barbara Skolaut
March 30, 2016 4:54 pm

Trough, schmogh.
It’s all my fault – I took the plastic off the inside of the windows a week or 2 ago when it got so warm here.
(Please don’t hurt me. ;-p )

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Barbara Skolaut
March 30, 2016 7:03 pm

I always wanted to see that word in print…

Reply to  Steve Fraser
March 31, 2016 12:26 pm

Which one? Plastic?

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Steve Fraser
April 1, 2016 2:18 am


March 30, 2016 5:08 pm

We should get a pot of money together and offer it to the great coalition of AG’s so they can meet and discuss the CAGW problem … as long as they do it in central park next week.

March 30, 2016 5:11 pm

Not entirely sarcastic: How can it NOT have a connection to April Fools when Gore and Holdren are involved? If we used actual, unadjusted data the warmest US years are in the 30s. Facts are stubborn things. The warmest year “evah” isn’t the warmest in a century even. Only fools miss the significance of 2015 not being warmer than 4 years in the 20th Century. A cooling trend does not prove “Global Warming”.

Paul Westhaver
March 30, 2016 5:20 pm

Hi Joe,
Thanks for the 5h1ttie news.
I had plans you know. Now I have other plans and they aren’t near as fun.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
March 31, 2016 12:27 pm

All depends on who you are snow bound with.

March 30, 2016 5:33 pm

Well at least the cherry blossoms are out in DC before the freeze comes. Some fruit trees in the North East are in for a “shock”.

Joe Bastardi
March 30, 2016 5:34 pm

Interesting similarities to a blend of the early Aprils of 03 and 07 El Nino fades and for instance March of 07 very warm, then coldest Masters morning on record! Might give it a run again late next week. Biggest news is CFSV2 has succumbed to reality since the “fix” and is showing the coming La Nina. As it comes on hot summer in US and increase in in close tropical cyclone activity ( gulf has me worried) means ensuing global temp fall will be buried in news by pushing of heat and hurricanes, even though we all expect summers to have both.

Saul from Montreal
March 30, 2016 5:45 pm

Looks like anomalously high temperatures in the Arctic for at least the next seven days, especially on the seventh day at the north pole…looks like over +25F anomaly
Climate Reanalyzer

Saul from Montreal
Reply to  Saul from Montreal
April 7, 2016 3:36 pm

Fiddled while dome burned.

Saul from Montreal
Reply to  Saul from Montreal
April 8, 2016 11:16 am

The readers at WUWT missed an interesting phenomenon and despite having two famous meteorologists participating in this thread, as well as four dozen clicks of my link, not one comment was made about this weather event.
FYI: It is forecast to continue for another week.

John A. Fleming
March 30, 2016 5:46 pm

Here’s what I know. Last fall, the guys at Weatherbell (Aleo, Bastardi, et al) predicted an average precipitation year for California, when lots of others were whistling past the El Nino graveyard expecting a drought-busting deluge. Ahem.
So when those guys says something is gonna be, I reckon I oughta listen.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  John A. Fleming
March 30, 2016 7:08 pm

There is a large cyclone going to park just off South Greenland for a few days. Cheer up! This process is part of the way that the earth gets rid of heat, by pumping it high in the atmosphere, and northward to open water. Also, the ‘atmospheric rivers in all the oceans help with it, too.

Reply to  John A. Fleming
March 31, 2016 4:15 pm

Here is something I wrote in Sept of 2014 on a story from CNBC….”A possible bright note is that I see a good possibility for strong spring rains next year. The year after that should bring a normal rain { edit: meaning the winter of 2015/16}, and the year after that {edit: meaning the winter of 2016/17} will be a likely candidate for a flood event in Northern California.”. cnbc story…
The spring of 2015 brought moderate rain through the coastal northwest, the best rains seen in years until this winter. The overall forecast was good. Next winter will show if the last part of the forecast is right or wrong.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  clipe
March 30, 2016 7:10 pm

Northern Pacific looks chilly, too.

March 30, 2016 5:51 pm

Bill Murray had the right idea about what to do with Punxsutawney Phil…

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
March 30, 2016 7:16 pm

Glad I’m not an alarmist. They pray day and night for their side to win? Kind of sick if you think about it. Wasting their whole lifes work and career on hoping to be right about the misery bestwed onto others.
What’s even more sad is their solutions to the unvalidated theory; destroy the well being of billions of people. These Sad scientist and their groupy followers are really only a proxy in a bigger more disturbing agenda of the left, total power and control over free people and their markets……at any cost!

March 30, 2016 7:26 pm

Global cooling, or more likely local cooling, is the worst case scenario that will compromise current resources and processes to sustain large population and production centers.
That said, it is still a chaotic system that functions in a semi-stable state, which would suggest that rational mitigation efforts are valuable, but catastrophic changes (e.g. severe misalignment) are likely counterproductive and even harmful.

Reply to  n.n
March 31, 2016 2:30 am

In a nutshell!

March 30, 2016 7:57 pm

Is there a place we can find out if this is a stark difference from “normal”? Because as others have mentioned a cold snap will do a hell of a lot more damage that a “warm” spell. Thoughts?

Steve Fraser
Reply to  asybot
March 31, 2016 12:21 pm

Yes, you can. Here are the stats [from the first ?] few days.
Degrees F

                      Avg.                          Record.                    Avg.
Date.   Low.         Hi.        Low (year).     Hi   (Year).    Precip.    Avg snow
Apr 1	36°	     51°	13° (1923)	76° (1918)	0.13"	   NA
Apr 2	36°	     52°	19° (1919)	75° (1967)	0.13"	   NA
Apr 3	37°	     52°	21° (1954)	77° (1892)	0.13"	   NA
Apr 4	37°	     52°	17° (1954)	75° (1950)	0.13"	   NA
Apr 5	37°	     53°	11° (1874).

…..this the record setting low for April.
Hope the chart is readable. Seems to have tabs in it.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Steve Fraser
March 31, 2016 12:22 pm

That is for Boston.

Reply to  Steve Fraser
March 31, 2016 4:20 pm

Intellicast has a nice page for stats…

March 30, 2016 8:43 pm

Al Gore Axiom is in play, never invite him anywhere until July, late July.

March 30, 2016 9:23 pm

Just in time for the Democracy Spring protest march from philly to DC on Apr 2-11.

Reply to  Realist
March 31, 2016 4:21 pm

That will be invigorating weather for a march.

March 30, 2016 9:42 pm

And when the cold hits the Northeast, all the news will probably be about the warmth in Alaska.

March 30, 2016 9:43 pm

Spring is getting later in Europe too.

Reply to  belousov
March 30, 2016 11:57 pm

“Spring is getting later in Europe too.”
Really? – more unsupportable hand-waving…..
“In Europe, season creep has been associated with the arrival of spring moving up by approximately one week in a recent 30-year period.Other studies have put the rate of season creep measured by plant phenology in the range of 2–3 days per decade advancement in spring, and 0.3–1.6 days per decade delay in autumn, over the past 30–80 years.”

Reply to  Toneb
March 31, 2016 3:34 am

Well, no-one told our snowdrops, they were more than a week later this year than last year.

Reply to  Toneb
March 31, 2016 7:27 am

Your snowdrops don’t count – they weren’t peer reviewed!

Reply to  belousov
March 31, 2016 1:56 am

Tone, The BBC may be many things but data it is not.
Falling back on the last 30 years is a familiar security blanket for arguing for warming, taking advantage of the upswing of the AMO.
But even over this timescale, there is data supporting spring in Europe (Germany) becoming later:

Reply to  belousov
March 31, 2016 4:10 am

“The BBC may be many things but data it is not.”
If you’d read the article it would have led you to the paper ….,+access+to+the+Online+Library+will+be+disrupted+on+Sunday,+19th+Dec+%2710+between+10:00-12:00+GMT.
Of and “notrickszone” may be many things but data it most definitely is not.
I also posted a link to Wiki that linked to papers (data).

Reply to  belousov
March 31, 2016 7:30 am

Granted, over 1971-2000 springs got earlier.
Surfing the old AMO again!
I’ll repeat – it’s already 2016 – this paper is 16 years out of date.
Right now, springs are getting later.
(It’s our turn to surf the AMO.)

Reply to  belousov
March 31, 2016 12:01 pm

belousov: “Right now, springs are getting later.
(It’s our turn to surf the AMO.)”

Damn those ~60 year cycles, they really mess up the Warmies’ linear regressions!

John law
March 31, 2016 12:03 am

What is snow?

Bernard Lodge
Reply to  John law
March 31, 2016 8:51 am

Really did LOL with that one.
Funniest comment of the day award!

charles nelson
March 31, 2016 1:00 am

If this event comes to pass it will decimate the number of Warmist Faithful in the North Eastern USA, who have been told relentlessly and incessantly for many years than ‘snow is a thing of the past’ or that ‘spring is arriving earlier and earlier’ etc etc.
Whilst this single event will not in itself totally convince people that the Warmist Narrative is false, it will convince them that it is flawed and will undermine the position of the Anointed Ones.
I note with glee the number of Warmist Trolls who have rocked up on this thread to snipe and insult and undermine the regular commentators…and all I can say is ‘welcome guys!, the fact that you’re here is all the proof we need that the CAGW faith is close to collapse!

Reply to  charles nelson
March 31, 2016 4:36 am

December was warm! And it got colder and colder each month since and I live near Canada…we are grinding our teeth today, viewing what is coming down on us. It will be colder than January! This is scary as all heck.
And el Nino is over, basically. La Nina is breathing on us with her icy breath.

Reply to  emsnews
March 31, 2016 10:49 am

March 31, 2016 at 4:36 am wrote”
“December was warm! And it got colder and colder each month since and I live near Canada…we are grinding our teeth today, viewing what is coming down on us. It will be colder than January! This is scary as all heck.”
It got colder *because* December was warm. The weather always swings back and forth. A warm winter can lead to a cold spring.
The year 1936, had some of the hottest weather in recent history, and it also had the coldest winter in history. So the temperature pendulum swings way out to on side, the hot side, and then it swings back to the other side, the cold side, and the magnitude of one swing is reflected in the other.
That’s my theory anyway, and I’m sticking to it. 🙂

Reply to  charles nelson
March 31, 2016 9:49 am

charles nelson,
Dec 2015 to February 2016 was the warmest Dec-Feb period on record globally according to all surface and satellite data sources. It was the warmest winter period on record for the northern hemisphere according to all sources and the warmest winter in the US since records began in 1895 according to NOAA.
That being the case, it’s difficult to see exactly how belief in AGW theory would be “close to collapse”, given that these observations are pretty much in line with expectations re AGW’s effect on global temperatures.

Reply to  DWR54
March 31, 2016 11:06 am

March 31, 2016 at 9:49 am wrote:
“Dec 2015 to February 2016 was the warmest Dec-Feb period on record globally according to all surface and satellite data sources.”
Well, the satellite data sources only go back to 1979, and it is still a matter of controversy as to whether it really is the warmest in this short time period.
The surface temperture data provided by NASA and NOAA are BIG LIES that should not be used in our calculations of what is hottest.
A real, unadulterated surface temperature chart would show we have been in a cooling trend since the 1930’s, up to, and including this year 2016, so this “hottest evah!” bs is just that.

Reply to  DWR54
March 31, 2016 1:28 pm

If we’ve been in a cooling trend since the 1930s then how come all the satellite data sets show warming since 1979?

charles nelson
Reply to  DWR54
April 1, 2016 3:23 pm

Dear DWR54
As most of the ‘warming’ took place in the Arctic and Siberia you would have to ask yourself how the ‘warmth’ got there? It certainly didn’t come from the sun which barely rises above the horizon in Feb…so the the answer is it got there in the form of water vapour carried from the oceans by the wind.
Now bearing in mind that the ‘warming’ was in the range of MINUS 30 to MINUS 15˚C you would have to ask yourself what happened to all that water vapour when it got to the polar regions…and froze?
Think now.

March 31, 2016 1:37 am

Now is a good time to remember to use the phrase “Global Warming” and refuse to use the phrase “Climate Change”.
Thanks for the heads-up, Joe.

March 31, 2016 2:01 am have been saying this for almost a week already

david smith
March 31, 2016 3:04 am

As soon as we get some cold temps the warmist apologists arrive on the comment thread to shout, “but…but…but…Cliimaate Chaaange!…Carbon pollution!…Evil man!….Smash capitalism!”
It’s getting rather predictable, I’m afraid.

March 31, 2016 3:13 am

Yes, 2015 apparently the warmest year ever, real, imaginary or just made up.
According to the data in the N. Hemisphere we have about 15 years or so of benign climate, and than it is all downhill for another 30 years.

Tom in Texas
Reply to  vukcevic
March 31, 2016 9:40 am

This is an interesting graph. If you look at similar pattern starting in 2006. you can see similarities between the dust bowl era. this seemed to last in each case 7 years for most areas and 11 years to complete it’s cycle.

Reply to  Tom in Texas
March 31, 2016 11:17 am

Hi Tom
I think the most striking feature is that the temp rise 1910-1945 period is precisely matched by one of 1975-2010, with just one single step-up of 0.35C. I just can’t see how that could be convincingly explained by the AGW hypothesis.
p.s. ‘phoenix’ palm trees along Mediterranean are being decimated by palm tree weevils (apparently came with imports from Argentina), it is such a sad sight; is Florida ok?

March 31, 2016 5:18 am

I case you Northerners were wondering where all the missing heat is going it’s all predicted for Oz cities-
Yeah I know it’s paywalled but you get the gist of it from the usual local Adelaide rag headline and there’s no way intelligent people pay for that dross. And they wonder why newspapers can’t turn a quid?

Owen in GA
March 31, 2016 5:29 am

It would be very unfortunate if the Vermont or New York AGs would be leading their inquisitors to torture the “truth” out of Exxon execs when a blizzard shuts down the highway in April trapping the entire inquisition team on the highway for days. Imagine the turmoil in the spin doctors’ houses as they try to turn that to their favor in the press.

Reply to  Owen in GA
March 31, 2016 6:39 am

But fun to watch

B DA Truth
March 31, 2016 6:11 am

Remember this has absolutely no connection to the fact that man made global warming is a complete lie and a fraud this is something totally new never before seen in the earths 5 billion year long historical record called a ‘polar vortex’.

March 31, 2016 6:26 am

Bush’s Fault.
Maybe Trump’s.

March 31, 2016 6:29 am

Global warming …. lol ….. dumb asses …..

March 31, 2016 8:53 am

“Arctic blast for Northeast USA to give snow, 10’s and 20’s to New York, Boston”
Snow in April is clear proof of life-ending man-made global warming. March being warmer than normal in the northeast is also clear proof of global warming.
Oh, and before you disagree, remember, denial of AGW is also proof of AGW.

March 31, 2016 10:16 am

69 F in NYC right now, 74 tomorrow. It’s still March.
Cold snap in April? Shit happens. We’ve had worse. Still an absurdly mild winter.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Steve M. (@nomoremister)
March 31, 2016 12:41 pm

Overnight on the 4th looks like it will just get to freezing. Big wad of warm air just off the coast.

March 31, 2016 11:23 am

lovely rainbow cartoons! kindergartens make these but don’t demand that others believe it is real.

March 31, 2016 11:42 am

The real temps will be in the 40s and 50s. Nice clickbait article 🙁
[we’ll see Mr. “Champion”, we’ll see. Meanwhile good job of obfuscating yourself, to stand up for what you truly believe the forecast will be -mod]

Reply to  Mr.G
March 31, 2016 5:01 pm

I’ll go with Weatherbell rather than your forcast – care to bet? I remember just north of Philadelphia in the early 80’s on April 3rd it snowed and for 3 days the 3 or 4 inches of snow blew around with very cold weather, closing local roads because of heavy drifting. I remember the migrating birds (mostly robins) would be grouped on cleared roads, rather than standing in the snow covered fields or lawns…

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Mr.G
April 1, 2016 2:38 am

The Weather channel is predicting a low of 16 on next Tues in Albany. Seems pretty chilly to me.

Reply to  Mr.G
April 1, 2016 10:15 am

You’re pandering to fear mongering with the publication of such drivel. My obfuscation is irrelevant in what will be the actual forecast. Will there be a follow up article after April 1-10’s 10s and 20s temperatures massacre the affected areas? Will there be coverage? Will there be pictures and on the street interviews or will you just move on to another fluff piece?

{the IP from this fake commenter comes from a personal computer at Columbia University in NYC. It seems a perfect representation of academic standards there. -mod}

Reply to  Mr.G
April 5, 2016 4:23 am

Well it’s the morning of April 5th, and the results are in. Looks like 27F in Central Park, NYC, and 28-29F in Washington DC this morning. Looks like your prediction was off by 10-23+ degrees F.

March 31, 2016 1:52 pm

Next 7 to10 might be interesting as it looks like a ice age weather pattern maybe forming not only in America but also in europe. High pressure is looking to build over NW America with a powerful jet stream running around it. Which will drive cold air down across NE America and with low pressure sitting there. Then late season heavy snowfall is on the cards. Now when America gets this jet stream set up it normally drives warm air up across europe. But a Greenland high looks to be forming and will extend across to northern europe. Shutting off the warm air and bringing cold air down from the north and pushing it across europe. Been waiting 3 years for this ice age weather pattern set up. So it will be interesting to see how strong its affects will be. Now that its the spring as well as having recent warming. This could be a real insight into how the NH climate moves from warming and into ice age formation over time

March 31, 2016 2:02 pm

Sorry “next 7 to 10 days”

March 31, 2016 2:31 pm

Remember April 6, 1982; and April 9, 1996, in the New York area. Heavy snow the first ten days in April is unusual, but not likely to set any records.
Contrast that with April 7, 2010, when the New York area reached 90 degrees. Also recall April 17 – 19, 1976, when the highs in New York were 93, 96 and 91, respectively.
Some great temperature swings are possible in April!

March 31, 2016 5:28 pm

This would have NEVER happened if Al Gore was still alive.

Upside Down Hockey Stick
March 31, 2016 5:34 pm

Isn’t NASA about due for it’s annual pronouncement of “Warmest Year on Record!”?

March 31, 2016 7:08 pm

Love the comments.

Tom Roberts
March 31, 2016 10:21 pm

Al Gore is not a scientist, but he predicated all this! Sea level rises of over 400 feet, before civilization even started! But in the next 100 years, maybe another one meter. And he predicted that this warm period would involve freezing blizzards from May through July, because that’s what happens to the weather when it gets really, really warm, oh, what a visionary!
But he failed to mention that reducing global population might help slow CO2 emissions, because then how would the Demochit Party be able to continue to bring in more and more CO2 belching Mexicans without anyone making a connection?
I pity any lunatic who fails to parrot this heroic figure!

Jay Steel
April 1, 2016 5:05 am

Thanks for good work. Any thoughts on this: Astronomers now aware of global warming on planet Mars. Ignored by many because contradictory to favorite narrative we must all bow down to.

April 1, 2016 6:49 am

April 3rd, 1987. We got 26″ at my house in western North Carolina.

April 2, 2016 6:07 am
Climate Research Fools went to Eastern Antarctic while temperature was -9° C.
Raveendran Narayanan USA

Steve Fraser
April 4, 2016 11:53 am

Nice little cover of snow in Boston…

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