There is a new book about to be published titled: The Social Psychology of Morality, which is to be published by the Psychology Press. I and several other skeptic bloggers have been given an advance look. The new book has a chapter on the interaction between “high moral purpose” and scientific integrity, and it cites the recent sliming of climate skeptics work of Stephan Lewandowsky. There’s this [chapter] that pretty well sums up the caliber of Lewandowsky’s work:
The Curious Case of Condemning Climate Skeptics as Conspiracy Theorists (Lewandowsky, Oberauer, & Gignac, 2013)
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Into this mix stepped Lewandowski et al. (2013) with a paper titled, “NASA Faked the Moon Landing – Therefore (Climate) Science is a Hoax” – which strongly implies that people who doubt global warming believe bizarre conspiracy theories. As Lewandowsky et al. (2013, p. 622) put it, “… conspiratorial thinking contributes to the rejection of science.”
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One possibility is that this was true – that a disproportionately high number of people who disbelieve climate science also believe in something as silly as the faking of the moon landing. Another, however, was that this was essentially trumped up in order to cast those who are most skeptical of the climate science as fools.
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The implication that climate skeptics believe in the faking of the moon landing is another phantom fact. Out of over 1145 respondents, there was a grand total of 10 who believed the moon landing was faked. Among the 134 of participants who “rejected climate science,” only three people (2%) endorsed the moon-landing hoax. The link asserted in the title of the paper did not exist in the sample.
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Understanding when people are and are not persuaded by science is an interesting and important area of research. But this curious case highlights the threat to scientific integrity that can stem from high moral missions. The notion that skeptics believed something so silly as the faking of the moon landing is yet another myth essentially concocted by the researchers.
That last line is basically academic speak for “Lewandowsky, you’re full of shit” and I make no apologies for saying that, because it’s the harsh but real truth. As far as I’m concerned, by his actions and lack of scientific integrity, Lewandowsky has made himself the poster child for noble cause corruption. His buddy John Cook, creator of the 97% consensus meme is similarly afflicted IMHO. From Wikipedia:
Noble cause corruption is corruption caused by the adherence to a teleological ethical system, suggesting that persons “will utilize unethical, and sometimes illegal, means to obtain a desired result,”[1] a result which appears to benefit the greater good. Where traditional corruption is defined by personal gain,[2] noble cause corruptions forms when someone is convinced of their righteousness, and will do anything within their powers to obtain or concertize the execution of righteous actions. Ultimately, noble cause corruption is police misconduct “committed in the name of good ends”[3] or neglect of due process through “a moral commitment to make the world a safer place to live.”[4]
Conditions for such corruption usually begin where individuals perceive no administrative accountability, lack of morale and leadership, and the general absence of faith within the criminal justice system.[5] These conditions can be compounded by arrogance and weak supervision.
Here is the abstract:
Abstract
In this chapter, we review basic processes by which moral purposes can sometimes motivate immoral behavior, and then suggest how moral agendas can sometimes lead social psychology astray through an array of questionable interpretive practices (QIPs). These practices can be used to advance a moral agenda by permitting researchers to interpret the data as supporting that agenda even when it does not. The QIPs reviewed here include: blind spots (overlooking or ignoring data inconsistent with one’s moral agenda), selective preference (accepting research supporting one’s agenda at face value, but subjecting opposing research of comparable or greater quality to withering criticism), and phantom facts (making declarations or drawing implications without evidence). Four major areas of social psychological research – sex differences, stereotype threat, attitudes towards climate science, and the ideology-prejudice relationship– are reviewed and shown to be characterized by unjustified conclusions plausibly reflecting high moral purposes. The chapter concludes with a discussion of how to reduce QIPs in research that has moral undertones.
Friend of WUWT, Psychologist, and Lewandowksy critic Dr. Jose L. Duarte is one of the co-authors.
Read it all here as a draft at the primary author’s website, source: http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~jussim/CanHighMoralPurposesUnderminescientificIntegrity.docx
Josh nailed it in his 2012 cartoon:
The fun in all this will be watching how wackadoodle defenders of the faith, like “Sou” aka Miriam O’Brien, will try to defend this travesty of Lewandowsky’s.
UPDATE: Barry Woods advises of a must-read article about the lead author citing Lewandowsky’s horrid work in a symposium http://quillette.com/2015/12/04/rebellious-scientist-surprising-truth-about-stereotypes/
UPDATE2: Worth sharing from the quillete.com article:
His fellow psychologists shifted in their seats. Jussim pointed out that the level of obfuscation the authors went to, in order to disguise their actual data, was intense. Statistical techniques appeared to have been chosen that would hide the study’s true results. And it appeared that no peer reviewers, or journal editors, took the time, or went to the effort of scrutinizing the study in a way that was sufficient to identify the bold misrepresentations.
While the authors’ political motivations for publishing the paper were obvious, it was the lax attitude on behalf of peer reviewers – Jussim suggested – that was at the heart of the problems within social psychology. The field had become a community in which political values and moral aims were shared, leading to an asymmetry in which studies that reinforced left-wing narratives had come to be disproportionately represented in the literature. And this was not, to quote Stephen Colbert, because “reality had a liberal bias”. It was because social psychology had a liberal bias.
Note: shortly after publication this article was updated to fix a spelling error Lewnadowsky > Lewandowsky, and to add text from the Wikipedia reference on noble cause corruption. The word “passage” changed to be [chapter] so it is accurate.
And of course, thanks to Barry Woods for finding the docx file in the first place.

In short ,and in an ironic twist, Lew papers work is not fit to wipe your ars* with.
I have never encountered social psychology work that was not designed to create internalized mental models that would be unable to differentiate the truth from a false narrative. Now we have the World Bank pushing ‘nudging’ a la Cass Sunstein and the Behavioral Insights Team in the UK.
We will be nudged to disregard the facts until that disregard becomes a Habit of Mind. It was never about genuine Science as a falsifiable hypothesis. It was about social science creating a malleable mind.
My old boss, Chester Newton, used to say that sociologists and psychologists have done more damage to mankind than all the wars in history.
Speak for yourself, knr; I’d gladly wipe my ars* with it.
Beware of splinters.
I know many people who are convinced of AGW, but believe whole-heartedly in homeopathy, and the value of vitamin supplements.
Harlan, do you think vitamin supplements have no value? I for one wouldn’t compare them to homeopathy. See scurvy and vitamin C for an example.
“and the value of vitamin supplements”
Seriously, or did you forget the /sarc tag? e.g. CoQ10 for dedicated statin users, vitamin D…
And are against inoculations.
Wiping with the Lew paper would most likely just result in another smear. I wouldn’t all that Lew on my a*s.
Love this article and Anthony Watts’ way with words. I’m always satisfied reading wattsupwiththat articles because they never contain an apology or a politically correct qualification. Just the facts and common sense reality.
Noble cause corruption is being too generous. He’s just corrupt.
No, seriously, similar slants exist in GMO research, vaccine research, and many other subjects.
This makes it harder to find out the truthe, even if you are unbiased yourself.
Lewandowsky and his buddy Oberauer are quite obviously ultra-green hard core activists as this website shows:
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/about.htm
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=324
and very well connected there with other notorious climate-alarmistic zealots:
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=23
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=25
So, it’s psychological simply impossible that they can act like sober and unbiased scientists when they deal with this topic. Thus, it’s rather sad and amazing that alleged “scientific” journals do accept obivous propaganda-stories by self-declared (and therefore clearly biased) activists in the very field of the publication…
BTW: Mr. Oberauer is a good example of the old wisdom that many Psychologists can very easily be mistaken for their patients… 😉
At least according to the picture in this source:
http://www.psychonomic.org/oberauer
Lewandowsky and his buddy Oberauer are quite obviously ultra-green hard core activists as this website shows:
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/about.htm
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=324
and very well connected there with other notorious climate-alarmistic zealots:
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=23
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=25
So, it’s psychological simply impossible that they can act like sober and unbiased scientists when they deal with this topic. Thus, it’s rather sad and amazing that alleged “scientific” journals do accept obivous propaganda-stories by self-declared (and therefore clearly biased) activists in the very field of the publication…
BTW: Mr. Oberauer is a good example of the old wisdom that many Psychologists can very easily be mistaken for their patients… 😉
At least according to the picture in this source:
http://www.psychonomic.org/oberauer
🙂
theyre ALL selling something..so of course they only present worked stats to support
however they have to finagle em to do so.
amazing how many trials data that IS accessible shows nothing like the spin that got sold to the gullible who dont look further,
my real Hate is? trials that say/imply they use a placebo.they dont
then you find they used another similar drug instead..so the dead or injured dont vary much from what people see and interpret wrongly, no drug/this drug.
the serious problem in all this is the purchasing and controlling OF data by elsevier/wiley and the rest..locking info away so only the better off can even see whats been done or not done.
Lewnadowsky was correct, just mispelled; it’s Loonadowsky.
Hey stop that now. There is a very nice bird in Canada that doesn’t like having its name appropriated by a vermin.
They are giving Lewandowsky et al. too much credit in calling them researchers.
Well actually he is a researcher. everything he attempts has to be searched and researched and re-researched re-re-researched, so as far as his own work is concerned, he is at stage two.
“…and did indeed find that “conspiracist ideation” negatively predicted (-.21, standardized regression coefficient) acceptance of climate science. So, where is the problem?”
So, they have a problem with the title of the paper, and one can argue it is overly provocative for sure.
“Among the 134 of participants who “rejected climate science,” only three people (2%) endorsed the moon-landing hoax. The link asserted in the title of the paper did not exist in the sample.”
There was no significant link between the two. In fact, 70% of those who believe the moon landing was fake ALSO believe in AGW. So a higher correlation exists there.
Well, one of the conclusions of the Lew paper was that “conspiracist ideation” predicts “rejecting climate science”. The case for causation the other way around was not made. The title, as I said, may be overly agitating, but as an example of the overall pattern still has the direction of influence right: moon landing is fake (believing this is a sign of conspiracy ideation), therefore (see the direction of causation here?) climate science is a hoax (the same conspiracy ideation MAY (not must!) be at play here).
The Lew paper is not saying “climate skeptics” believe the moon landing is fake whatever the headline of the paper.
Wagen,
Your efforts at obfuscation are a FAIL. If some AGW believers are conspiracy ideationists, and some climate skeptics are conspiracy ideationists, but the conclusion of your paper is that conspiracy ideation is associated only with skepticism, then those conclusions are entirely worthless.
Obfuscation? My paper? What are you on about? I gave a direct quote from the Jussim et al paper that is discussed above but is missing in the discussion above.
Jussim et al thus acknowledge that the Lew paper found that conspiracy ideation predicts dismissing climate science (to be sure: only to a small degree, after the biggest predictor, i.e. free market ideology).
I agree that the worth of the conspiracy ideation finding is limited.
Which is how they claimed to get away with it. The problem is that the impression is obviously false (and 0.2 is not a significant correlation by any definition of the word). out of those surveyed, 95% of climate skeptics do not agree with the moon hoax theory. This is ignoring the very strong likelyhood that at least some of the answers were fake (for political gain or simply for giggles) or simply mis-selected.
You cannot make ANY determinations out of 10 people in a sample of several thousand aside from the fact that they are very rare.
There is a reason the witness’s oath is “the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth”. The correlation is a partial truth in that it is not meaningful. However, the headline is a falsehood because it gives a distinct claim of a conclusion that cannot be reached.
Well, the significant effect of conspiracy ideation in the regression analysis (in which free market ideology was entered first as the strongest effect, so it is not comparable to a simple correlation anymore) is not only based on those that think that the moon landings were fake. Instead:
“endorsement of a cluster of conspiracy theories (e.g., that the Federal Bureau of Investigation killed Martin Luther King, Jr.) predicted rejection of climate science as well as other scientific findings”
I agree the title of Lew’s paper is overly ‘catchy’ (understatement). It is important for scientists that their papers get publicity, though. Helps with careers. That explains it for me.
To illustrate the problem in a way you might get Wagen:
I don’t believe the moon landings were faked. What can you tell me of my opinion of AGW based on Lew’s work?
On Lew’s work alone that you are less likely to think that climate science is a hoax than someone entertaining the notion that the moon landings were fake (or similar conspirational notions).
However, you asking me this question…
Even though you’ve already demonstrated it twice Wagen, your third answer serves best to demonstrate you don’t understand the correct use of statistical inference, which places you firmly in the set of most people who read headlines.
A factor that describes only two percent of the variance in a sample isn’t a factor; it’s noise. You could just as easily have added “preference for fish over red meat” as a factor and if your acceptance criteria were low enough (or non-existent) made the claim that skeptics tended to prefer fish or that a preference for fish was predictive of skepticism. In the vernacular it what we statisticians refer to as “junk”, the sign of a deceitful experimenter with an agenda based design out to “prove” something the media will be too stupid to reject outright but attracted to by a sensationalist and provocative headline. In other words it’s meaningless click bait that makes no contribution of any kind to science. A lot like the alarmist studies making claims that rising ocean temperatures “may”/”could”/”might” kill sharks in 400 years based on some idiot doing destructive (and likely illegal) “experiments” on endangered species in an aquarium. And similar nonsense.
If you plan to argue the scientific validity of experiments like the one described, you’re wasting your time.
By the way, the correct answer to Clovis’ question, “What can you tell me of my opinion of AGW based on Lew’s work?”
Is “Absolutely nothing”.
@Bartleby
My interpretation is not wrong. I know the effect is small, but it was still there (of course, it may have accidentally happened to be significant, these things happen). Also, I know it is not really important. “Paranoid personality sees conspiracy” is not really mind-blowing new stuff.
So, why does Lew’s paper get so much attention and controversy? Because of its title and framing! 😀
The Jussim paper discussed here, however reverses the causation and attacks the reversal (a.k.a. straw man). The Duarte kid has a lot learn. 😉
“of course, it may have accidentally happened to be significant, these things happen”
You are very entertaining.
It’s a poll. A POLL!!!!!!!!!
I wager that if we could get a hold of “Dr.” Mann’s data and methods on that ignorant hockey stick paper that it would be just as bad.
The list of activists who lack integrity grows longer
Mann
Gleik
Lewendowsky
Turney
Jones
Gore
Oreskes
Klein
You left out Obama, Holland et al……………
& at least 39,990 others .
Snow Oreskes and the 7 dimwits
EternalOptimist
December 11, 2015 at 2:05 pm
The list of activists who lack integrity grows longer
Mann—————Grumpy
Gleik—————Sleepy
Lewendowsky—Doc
Turney————-Happy
Jones————–Sneezy
Gore—————Dopey
Klein—————Bashful
Did your fingers get tired? That list seems awfully short to me.
I’d cast Cook in the role of the poison apple.
Hey, don’t forget Prince Chuckles !!!!
So are we to conclude that 80% of people who believe the moon landing was faked also believe in AGW?
If, like Lewandowsky, you just want to make stuff up, you can conclude whatever you like.
For anyone who is interested in sticking to factual information, best to draw no conclusions whatsoever from the big fat steaming pile of lying lies that lying liars tell.
Either that or they have no opinion on AGW. Since the latter is not likely, I have to recommend the former.
The notion that either Lewandowsky or Cook are involved in noble cause corruption is absurd, they do it for the attention.
If they were noble they would allow people to choose adaptation as an alternative strategy.
They would think, “We’re all on the same side, Good Luck!”
But only there way is OK.
It’s just corruption.
“there” = “their”
Homophonic dyslexia.
What do you mean by: “homophobic dyslexia” ? 😉
Noble Cause? This has never been a “noble cause” to any but the most naive. Those you mentioned have never believed in any cause but their own gain. This entire hoax is about power gained by a few over the many. They will never in this PC world be punished to the extent their crimes against humanity call for.
latecommer2014
cha-ching!!!
(I’ve edited the formatting above.)
Philip Tetlock has written the ‘bible’ on this kind of stuff; “Expert Political Judgment, How Good Is It? How Can We Know?”. Over the years Tetlock assessed the ability of experts to make predictions. One of the things he had to deal with was the array of defenses the experts put up when they were wrong. The list is long and Tetlock deals with it in great detail. The bottom line is that, even ignoring noble cause corruption, experts (and everyone else) are more likely than not to suffer from all the problems cited above plus a bunch more (the list is on page 164). The psychological defenses are formidable and Tetlock’s analysis of them is (for me anyway) head splitting.
I expect that Stephan Lewandowsky and company will mount a vigorous defense and will not shrink quietly into a dark corner.
“Noble cause corruption” is just another way of saying “The end justifies the means”.
When those promoting “a cause”, no matter how noble it may be, become corrupt it won’t be long before they corrupt “the cause” itself. Or rather, the “noble cause” may remain but that is no longer what they are promoting.
Ideology, where the truth is what is believed rather than what the facts are.
or
“Don’t confuse me with facts, I know what I know!”
Facts are meaningless.
Btw,
“… conspiratorial thinking contributes to the rejection of science.”
is not the same as
“…climate skeptics believe in the faking of the moon landing…”
Having a propensity for seeing conspiracies, makes someone prone to consider climate science a hoax. Is this controversial? The mentioned “implication” that “climate skeptics” are by definition conspiracy ideators is not made.
Lewandowsky is well aware that the -by far- greater predictor of “climate skepticism” is free market ideology.
Wagen
“Having a propensity for seeing conspiracies,”
“Lewandowsky is well aware that the -by far- greater predictor of “climate skepticism” is free market ideology.”
Wagen , you state ideology, Climate skeptics have no one defining ideology. Climate skeptics come from all walks of life, professions and nations. This leads one to conclude that ether you yourself are a conspiracy theorist or a very very craven and disingenuous individual.
michael
From the abstract of the moon landing fake paper:
“Our findings parallel those of previous work and show that endorsement of free-market economics predicted rejection of climate science. Endorsement of free markets also predicted the rejection of other established scientific findings, such as the facts that HIV causes AIDS and that smoking causes lung cancer. We additionally show that, above and beyond endorsement of free markets, endorsement of a cluster of conspiracy theories (e.g., that the Federal Bureau of Investigation killed Martin Luther King, Jr.) predicted rejection of climate science as well as other scientific findings. Our results provide empirical support for previous suggestions that conspiratorial thinking contributes to the rejection of science.”
From the presently discussed paper:
“…and did indeed find that “conspiracist ideation” negatively predicted (-.21, standardized regression coefficient) acceptance of climate science.”
Somehow this finding was not mentioned in the blog post above…
Wagen:
There are no ‘findings’ of Lewserandownsky discussed above.
What is discussed is Lee Jussim’s chapter, “Can High Moral Purposes Undermine Scientific Integrity?”, in the book, “J. Forgas, P. van Lange & L. Jussim, Sydney Symposium on Social Psychology of Morality“.
Also mentioned above is an excellent article by ‘Claire Lehmann’; “How a rebellious scientist uncovered the surprising truth about stereotypes”.
Read Lee Jussim’s terrific dissection and destruction of Lewserandownsky’s false psychology, perhaps even you might learn something.
Be sure to keep a dictionary nearby.
@ATheoK
The second quote in my comment above is a direct quote from the Jussim et al article. It is not in the present blog post. Where do you think I got it from?
Then you come and say ‘Read Lee Jussim’s terrific dissection and destruction of Lewserandownsky’s false psychology, perhaps even you might learn something.’ 😀
“the -by far- greater predictor of “climate skepticism” is free market ideology.”
Wrong.
All available evidence points to CAGW skepticism being rooted in intelligence, education in the scientific method, being able and willing to think for oneself, and the ability to draw reasonable conclusions from a given body of information.
“All available evidence points to CAGW skepticism being rooted in intelligence, education in the scientific method, being able and willing to think for oneself, and the ability to draw reasonable conclusions from a given body of information.”
Where is your data? Lewandowsky provides data (the article discussed here uses that data) and concludes “that endorsement of free-market economics predicted rejection of climate science”.
Do you have anything more than personal belief?
“Where is your data? Lewandowsky provides data (the article discussed here uses that data) and concludes “that endorsement of free-market economics predicted rejection of climate science”.”
Or alternatively, rejection of socialist economic philosophy also predicts rejection of climate science. Hey, you’re right. Makes perfect sense and Lewandowsky is right.
Wagen untrained:
The evidence is in every article and following commentary that Anthony hosts here day after day.
Loopydowski scammed his data by actively seeking CAGW devotees to pretend and respond to his alleged questionnaire. Loopers then twisted the data, hid the data, pretended to statistically analyze the data, then he wrote whatever he wanted.
Those facts you can find yourself in many places, by looking up the analysis and discussions. All of those online discussions are archived in several blogs; e.g. http://www.whatsupwiththat.com, http://www.Climateudit.com.
Lewserandownsky’s research has been thoroughly analyzed and debunked several times. In the latest example, Lee Jussim’s chapter, referred to above serves as an exemplary dissection on how not to perform psychology research.
In other words, Lewandowsky’s work and research may be used for generations; Alongside “Trofim Lysenko” Lewser’s work will help educate students on steps and attitudes to avoid in order to conduct legitimate research.
If only Wagen can learn…
Wagen may be on to something, I’ve always suspected Putin of being a free market ideologist and moon landing compiracy afficcianado. But perhaps that was just my free market ideology acting up. Is there a pill for that condition? I’ve often thought it would be nice if I could just slide into a medically induced state of bliss where I could trust that the central planners were smart enough to fine tune trillion dollar economies, or the weather.
So, just so I have this situation straight…
A psychologist writes a “research paper” attempting to smear global warming skeptics by lumping them in with crackpot theorists. A paper ignoring studies showing opposite correlations, manipulating data, etc. And may as well thrown in any economic theories the author disagrees with while he’s going. Got it.
I have an alternative theory. A scientist not getting enough funding or attention sees a global warming movement which has abundant resources and wants to join the party, too. But, the topic is climate, not psychology. No worries, we can fake some more data, ignore some other studies, and smear people who disagree with those at the party. Now he’s in the club, too!
Where was this study published, The Onion?
@kcrucible
That is possibly true, but impossible to say from Lew’s data set. We need more data 😉
@ATheoK
In Jussim et al they try to undermine the notion that “climate skeptics” believe that the moon landings were fake. Lew’s paper never made this claim. Read more carefully next time.
@Justin
I see a scientist doing a survey and reporting the results. I see no evidence the data are ‘scammed’, ‘twisted’, or whatever.
I can agree to a degree with your sentiment though about the framing of the study and the choice of the headline. Publicity is good for scientists. What’s an aspiring scientist to do?
You don’t see much.
I may have a bridge for you.
“Lewandowsky provides data”
Data obtained in violation of your own protocol isn’t data.
It’s GARBAGE.
You guys should have figured out that arguing with anyone who feels the need to defend Lewandowski and Cook is like arguing with the little retard kid down the street. No offense to any kids, but one has to be retarded to think Lewandowski ‘s work has any merit. You’d better serve your fellow man by contacting Wagen’s adult supervision and telling them he’s out wandering around.
@timg56
And still the Jussim article agrees with earlier research by saying ‘and did indeed find that “conspiracist ideation” negatively predicted (-.21, standardized regression coefficient) acceptance of climate science.’
Wagen, Wagen, Wagn
Do you still stand by Lew’s “studies”?
Do you accept this is worse than manure? cause manure has a use.
What is the use of Lew? Scare children?
If you don’t eat soup, Lew will psychobabble you!
Wagen, you are twisting like Lewandowsky. We do understand what he means. You seem to be missing all that, like any other troll..
What is your definition of troll? And can you spell out what you think (who’s “we” btw?) that Lew means that I am missing? Thanks
The following folks; Charles Manson, Fidel Castro, Ted Kaczynski, Osama bin Laden and James J. Lee, all with various forms of dangerous forms of psychopathologies were also avid Global warming alarmists. I’m sure many more could be found, such that a case could be made that psychopathology is a good predictor of global warming ideation. And judging from the actions of Warmist ideologues, there does seem to be a close connection. Remember the 10/10 blood-spatter video?
So two can play at that game.
I suggest you do a study and present the numbers.
Wagen, as usual, you missed the point. Are you being disingenuous, or just stupid? Hard to tell. Need more data.
“such that a case could be made that psychopathology is a good predictor of global warming ideation”
Well, make the case, provide the evidence. Not sure what the relevance to the present topic is. So, yeah, I may be missing your point. Describe it again to me as if I were a seven-year-old, maybe I will understand it then.
Wagen,
We’d have to describe it to you as if you were a 7-year old with a learning disability.
The Moon Hoax paper is crap. You do know what crap is, correct?
It is crap because of how poorly the survey was put together.
It is crap because of how the results from the survey were filtered.
It is crap because of the unbelievably substandard level of statistical analysis employed to arrive at the results. As Jurrim points out, they had to work really, really hard to make the data say what they wanted.
That there are people so willing to argue on behalf of Lewandowski and Cook is rather amazing. Perhaps if one were my brother I might try (though it might be more along the line of making excuses, as defending work that bad goes beyond the duties of kinship.)
@timg65
And still the Jussim (not Jurrim!) article discussed here says: ‘and did indeed find that “conspiracist ideation” negatively predicted (-.21, standardized regression coefficient) acceptance of climate science.’
“Having a propensity for seeing conspiracies”
So what of having a propensity for [perpetrating] conspiracies, as do the climate science crew?.
“free market ideology” is just another term for “authoritarian policies skeptic” or “state intervention skeptic”.
Bizarrely, scientists from academia (unlike the scientists doing engineering (*)) are rarely hardcore “state intervention skeptic”. They can doubt that physics constants like the charge of proton is constant, but not the need of government policies for almost everything.
(*) yes, engineers are doing scientific jobs, there is no opposition between “pure” sciences and engineering, but a continuum from theoretic with no foreseeable use to immediate problem solving
Wagen,listen very carefully
If you actually go ahead and read anything with the title of “Recursive fury: Conspiracist ideation in the blogosphere in response to research on conspiracist ideation,” Then you are are a nutcase.Understand?
Are you calling Barry Woods and many people commenting on this site nutcases? Noted.
It is a very strange paper you are trying to endorse here Wagen. I would suggest if you’d like to be enlightened by real and actual causation, you might like to ponder why it is that so many of the CAGW ideology are left-wing thinkers? This, I believe, is a much more illuminating fact.
Or why is a science tracing back 200 years deemed controversial by one side of the political spectrum?
Time to go to bed, Wagen.
Or why is a clear-cut science tracing back 200 years not being taken seriously by a certain part of the political spectrum?
[snip – we are not going to discuss moon landing conspiracy here – mod]
Jeez…these guys are psychologists (whatever that really is) – their own literature is full of “questions” regarding difficulty/inability to reproduce of “core” experiments (or at least the few times they give it a shot). FYI: 100 years after General Relativity people are still testing it.
What do ya expect? Why do we even discuss this cow poop? The science class in the 3rd grade at the elementary school down my street is literally a more intense intellectual hotbed.
Be careful, there is another title “The Social Psychology of Morality: Exploring the Causes of Good and Evil” also published by Psy Press that came out in 2011. It may be a perfectly wonderful book, but it is not the same book.
The bad Dr. Lew and his echo chamber pals have authored yet another dubious study as noted on the Real Climate site. Deception is the stock in trade for these crusaders, and this time they cherry pick and then alter the axis titles of a temperature chart to make it appear to show economic growth.
Next Economists were asked if the chart indicated an economic slowdown. The results are then extrapolated to “prove” the pause never occurred. The amazing part is that it is so well-written that it is obvious that the authors are far from stupid. Perhaps they think they are outsmarting “normal” folks with this drivel. In any case, the study is the poster child for garbage in, garbage out.
Rob Ricket
“The bad Dr. Lew and his echo chamber pals have authored yet another dubious study as noted on the Real Climate site. Deception is the stock in trade for these crusaders, and this time they cherry pick and then alter the axis titles of a temperature chart to make it appear to show economic growth.”
Cool, Grab their new “Graft” scale it proper, to reflect ..001 pence/cent. Last be sure and index for inflation over 20 years, Then send the chart to the relevant economists and ask if they want to review their findings. Also a gentle observation that they were being used.
While people are willing to be a part of a scientific experiment, they tend to get irritated when used as a “cat’s paw”.
michael
Believing AGW science is badly done, poorly modeled, working with insufficient data, or averaged beyond usefulness, is not the same as believing it is a hoax. That requires a conspiracy of global proportions beyond the competency of any of our elected leaders. This is just bad science by emotionally driven people based on an irrational hatred of fossil fuels. Also, predicting the future has never been science, has an abysmal track record, and one must be either a fool or a tool to blindly accept the soothsayer’s constantly renewed cries of impending doom without some degree of skepticism.
Not only that, but if it wasn’t for all the bad science, then it might have been possible for a rational person to assess to what extent the current warming trend may have been influenced by the addition of anthropogenic CO2. A small fraction of the money spent so far, but spent on real science, would have possibly provided us with some significant insights.
I originally wanted to answer questions in my own mind regarding the extent of warming historically and currently and regarding attribution. All that I have so far discovered is that science has been taken over by motivated conclusion affirming crap.
Hoyt
Agree with almost every word of your post other than ‘irrational hatred of fossil fuels’. I think it’s much more about ‘saving the planet’, allied with some elements of anti-capitalism against industry and the Establisment in general rather than specifically against big oil.
The odd thing is that some companies are exempt from the criticisms: Micro$oft is loathed but Apple is worshipped despite being almost the definition of big business.
As for politicians, from a UK perspective we have lots of talk but relatively little action beyond some taxes on fuel (and even then we now have the lowest pump prices for gasoline in 5 or so years). It’s all about being soft and fluffy, to appeal to soft liberal voters in Middle England (who are the ones that actually decide the election). Image over substance.
Look up the definition of hoax, and then consider the facts.
However it started out, by the time people realize that they are misrepresenting facts in order to obtain financial gain, it is by definition then a hoax.
To argue otherwise is to be snookered by the idea that everyone involved has to have had a meeting and agreed at some point to perpetrate such a scheme.
there is evidence that many have, and many lines of evidence that others are simply along for the ride.
People who are near, but not at, the top of a Ponzi scheme are not necessarily aware of what is happening, but that does not alter the fact of what is actually happening.
Is there a problem with the wuwt server. A posting of mine was not successful twice now…
Why do people seem to always assume there’s a “problem with the server” when in fact the problem is with their own posting being held in moderation. You have so many links in your comment (and duplicate) pending that it flagged the spam filter.
Comments with lots of links are typical for spammers trying to get traffic.
OK – but I’am no spammer and there was not the used information that the comment is in moderation. This would have made it clear…
Yes but when you click “post comment” and the webpage refreshes with a sharp link going to nowhere, the interpretation isn’t obvious.
Well it failed a third time, and I have no idea why – So I’ll leave it – pity for the waste of time…
A picture’s worth a thousand words.
?w=300
OK, now it seems to work, so I try it again:
Lewandowsky and his buddy Oberauer are quite obviously ultra-green hard core activists as this website shows:
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/about.htm
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=324
and very well connected there with other notorious climate-alarmistic zealots:
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=23
http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/bio.php?u=25
So, it’s psychological simply impossible that they can act like sober and unbiased scientists when they deal with this topic. Thus, it’s rather sad and amazing that alleged “scientific” journals do accept obivous propaganda-stories by self-declared (and therefore clearly biased) activists in the very field of the publication…
BTW: Mr. Oberauer is a good example of the old wisdom that many Psychologists can very easily be mistaken for their patients… 😉
At least according to the picture in this source:
http://www.psychonomic.org/oberauer
Sorry – Just fun… 🙂
dude. read the comment above and stop spamming
OK, OK – I see the error of my ways now… and repent 😉
But now you can remove my first two trials before other people think I’m a jerk – Thanks.
too late
Does that mean that Buzz Aldrin also believes that the moon landings were faked?
No, and don’t try to tell him that…
. . .Oh that was sweet !!! Thanks ..
Agree, never, ever, call a fighter pilot with two air to air kills and 60 plus combat missions a “coward”
thanks Anthony
michael
And the courts ruled it justifiable and threw out the assault charges against Aldrin.
Which may be the best part of the whole story.
Wonderful!!!
Terrific right cross Buzz!
The Right Cros,,,er…Stuff!
I’m curious if any charges came from that.
I’ve heard that environmental activists are adopting the tactic of confronting people with the intent to be irritating so as to prompt actions such as Buzz’s. Hopefully this get’s seen as harrasment and any suit for assault gets tossed.
one (1) is a strange thing, I think there is a truth there but I cannot explain it.
I know I used to fret about it when I was an infant.
when I was a child magic and mystery existed there to be seen in all flower and noises and animals and things to be frightened of and things to love and things to surprise. Magic and mystery and joyfulness not to be confused with measuring heartlessly and assuming superiority over for example a stag beetle.
Is one human worth more that the entire species of stag beetle ? for example ?
climate-things-otherthings-humans ?
nobody is willingly going to suicide to save the planet. What shall we do ?
.. What ??
Not too conflicted zemlik, eh?
Do you avoid stepping on ants, spiders and grubs too? Perhaps you checked for bacteria, planaria and other life on the soles of your shoes, before walking?
Do you skip personal ablutions like brushing your teeth and washing?
Do you use poisonous highly lethal chemicals for cleaning? Chemical solutions like bleach or contain ammonia or alcohol?
Of course you eat healthy living things every day without much conflict; e.g. meat, vegetables, berries, baby plants (seeds, flour, rice, etc.). If you are eating, you are maiming and killing things.
Face it, you kill lots of things every day without bothering to check first if you were about to eliminate the genus. For your lack of consideration or attention you might’ve condemned many species to extinction.
Pretending conflicts for some bugs and animals but willfully destroying others is pure hypocrisy or unstable mental state issues.
Do something different. Either put the bong down, or hit on it. Just change what you have been doing.
Read the label on Dr. Bronner’s Peppermint Soap one (1) to many times.
https://www.drbronner.com/our-story/timeline/read-the-moral-abcs/
Motivated bogus science from the “unskilled and unaware of it” social psychology brigade.
Here is an example of one of their masterpieces, from 2011, still residing on the internet, “Meat eaters are selfish and less social”. Well that’s a nice predictable liberal meme : http://www.dutchdailynews.com/meat-eaters-selfish-less-social/
Except that we soon after learned that the author of the study, Diederik Stapel, had been discovered to be guilty of MAKING EVERYTHING UP. As explained beautifully here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/diederik-stapels-audacious-academic-fraud.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
But, as Lewandowsky himself observed, once a popular lie is successfully promulgated then it is very hard for the truth to erase it. That indeed seem to be the basis of his career.
Unless he is merely – unskilled and unaware of it. A satisfactory alternative explanation.