See Update 6 – a poll has been added about whether the COP21 climate conference in Paris should continue as planned.
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
BREAKING NEWS – a major Terrorist attack is in progress in Paris, which will shortly host the COP21 Climate Conference. At least 140 40 people are reported to be dead, up to 100 hostages still unaccounted for.
According to Sky News Australia;
French police officials say at least 40 people have been killed in multiple attacks in Paris, including one near the Stade de France sports stadium and another at a concert venue.
French Media is reporting at least 60 people have been killed.
Fifteen of the victims have been killed at the Bataclan concert hall in eastern Paris, with reports saying a further 100 people have been taken hostage.
Others have been killed in explosions near the stadium just north of Paris, where a France-Germany football match was taking place, and in a restaurant shooting.
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Lets us all hope that French authorities manage to stop this horrific terrorist attack, with minimal further loss of life.
UPDATE by Anthony: I wonder if President Obama will rethink his threat priorities now, this from the White House Twitter feed in April:
Update 2: I will add, that this is a terrible terrible thing, and I think I speak for all WUWT readers that our hearts go out to the victims and their families in Paris. Let’s hope there is a swift end to this, and that the guilty will be brought to justice.
Update 3: France is under a state of emergency, and has closed its borders:
“French President Francois Hollande declared a state of emergency and in a televised address to the nation announced that he was closing the country’s borders ‘to make sure that those who have committed these crimes can be stopped.’ He also indicated that authorities knew who was responsible for the attacks.”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/13/dozens-killed-in-paris-terror-attacks?int=9b9e08
Update4: Meanwhile, Al Gore’s 24 hour climate change webcast is hosted at the Eiffel Tower.
http://news.yahoo.com/al-gore-hosting-climate-telethon-paris-eiffel-tower-163634484.html
It appears the 24 hours of reality/act on climate video feed is off now, probably a sensible thing to do. Screencap from https://www.climaterealityproject.org/24hoursofreality
Update 5: questions about COP21 already being asked according to BBC Europe editor Katya Adler:
Update 5: Watch France 24 Live in English http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed
Update 6: Poll added, since this is being discussed in media worldwide now.
He wasn’t talking about Israel; he was talking about weakening whatever the dominant culture is of the host country in which the Jews reside. A good way to do that is with unrestricted immigration of people who will not assimilate.
That ‘strategic interest’ is something all Jews agree on.
Talk about An Inconvenient Truth…
Don’t know about the poll.
I do not think the meeting of Paris-ites will serve any honest citizen any where.
They smell like eco-terrorists to me, using a softer approach to potentially kill a lot more people.
However if they cancel then the other terrorists have won.
What I will be entertained by, in a macabre way, is how those politicians, who have insisted that Climate Change is the most dangerous threat to civil society, will spin their failure to attend.
Comments are posting in very strange places.
The ludicrous irony of it all is that world leaders are gathering in Paris to discuss and spend billions on a non problem when the greatest threat to the peace and harmony of the civilised world is radical Islam.
Men in groups are susceptible to a weird group madness. Men can create idiotic, purposeless, paradigms which are completely removed from reality.
Perhaps, however, madness is madness. Would you fight to defend your home, your family? Is there something worth dying for? How does one defeat madness?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
The French state can not guarantee the safety of the 40000 delegates. An attack on them would be a major pr coup for terrorists and a disaster for the French state and humanity.
I would expect the climate summit in the format Currently proposed will need to be postponed.
Tonyb
Tony, you obviously are NOT paying attention. I’m sorry to have to talk down to you…and be so patronizing, but according to our “Chief” there is something MORE important than TERRORISM! It is “Climate Change” (the new cockroach moniker for Gorebull warming.) Therefore the terrorists need to be ignored. It’s IMPERATIVE that the Paris conference goes on. I’m sure the security forces in France can keep them safe. After all, the country of the Maginot line and the brilliance thereof, can certainly handle a few “disfranchised youth”. So please, get with the equation.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/9d03a893caef132327c42a61495410dd/tumblr_nxsosmfWvD1rw5dlyo1_1280.jpg
His beer is probably flat by now.
dbstealey posts: http://41.media.tumblr.com/9d03a893caef132327c42a61495410dd/tumblr_nxsosmfWvD1rw5dlyo1_1280.jpg
…which suggests that an avant-garde playwright might do well with an offering titled “Waiting for Obama,” written in the spirit and mode of Beckett’s famous play.
Certainly absurdism would seem to be the only proper way to approach the career of our “Magic Negro” Indonesian-in-Chief.
Now, let’s see…. The “Vladimir” equivalent would – of course! – be a professor in some “Studies” excuse for a discipline at some state-funded university, while the “Estragon” character is an inner-city dweller from Ferguson or Detroit or Baltimore or Watts, of mixed race for preference. In the spirit of political correctness, either or both would be female or transgender.
Further speculation on content is left as an exercise to the student.
[moderator: would you please ablate the previous gormlessly misspelled post? Gad, I hate screwing up a discussant’s ekename….]
dbsteaket posts: http://41.media.tumblr.com/9d03a893caef132327c42a61495410dd/tumblr_nxsosmfWvD1rw5dlyo1_1280.jpg
…which suggests that an avant-garde playwright might do well with an offering titled “Waiting for Obama,” written in the spirit and mode of Beckett’s famous play.
Certainly absurdism would seem to be the only proper way to approach the career of our “Magic Negro” Indonesian-in-Chief.
Now, let’s see…. The “Vladimir” equivalent would – of course! – be a professor in some “Studies” excuse for a discipline at some state-funded university, while the “Estragon” character is an inner-city dweller from Ferguson or Detroit or Baltimore or Watts, of mixed race for preference. In the spirit of political correctness, either or both would be female or transgender.
Further speculation on content is left as an exercise to the student
Of course they are going. They are on a mission to save planet Earth and this is their last chance. This is not just some sort of boondoggle. Suggesting anyone would cancel would make them the worst kinds of hypocritical cowards. Remember, this problem is much more serious than terrorism as the president of the United States has already articulated.
ISIL would never disturb COP12, they know the quisling cAGW cabal are in league to bring down western civil society.
Bernie Sanders, at the Democratic debate…a day after the massacres in Paris stated emphatically that Climate Change is a greater threat than Terrorism…that Climate Change FUELS such events.
Excuse me?
The levels of duplicity it takes to make such a link are quite scary. To be so brazen as to exploit the horror on such a stage and twist it to suit your own political ends….well I guess that’s what all these disgusting politicians do.
The ‘climate change causes wars’ meme was created by a warped article in the NYT earlier this year…(who would have guessed?)..and has been jumped on by the most powerful politicians in the world who are prepared to use it in any way they see fit.
Dis Gus Ting
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It’s for this reason that it seems best to quote a pertinent portion of the post to which response is being made, and mention the name of the discussant who had authored same.
The only problem with using the “blockquote” function to this purpose is that stuff which is “blockquoted” doesn’t seem to get into the e-mail messages alerting participants to the new material “up” on the thread.
A purely technical matter of which it WordPress might be advised, no?
I suspect we can kiss goodbye to COP21 as the EU elites have other more pressing priorities now-
http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/watch-video-muslims-around-the-world-celebrate-the-jihad-victory-in-paris.html/
And they haven’t even had time to organize protests yet-
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/619463/Paris-attacks-Anti-Muslim-protests-Islam-France-terrorism
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/555434/Islamic-State-ISIS-Smuggler-THOUSANDS-Extremists-into-Europe-Refugees
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/11989250/EU-flag-burned-as-tens-of-thousands-join-Warsaw-nationalist-demo.html
EU elites hit the panic button even before Paris slaughter-
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/eu.presses.panic.button.amid.avalanche.of.migrants.sweden.join.countries.that.have.sealed.their.borders/70508.htm
it’s amazing what London went through over the ages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London
As of now, the French president has declared the climate summit will go on as scheduled. Too important of an issue. So now the spin masters are blaming the attacks on OPEC and big oil to get the conference cancelled. That’s it! As if, let’s see, who probably won’t be attending with any intent, Russia, China, India, Indonesia…. Then the whole affair will be between the west, led by the groveling US, and a whole bunch of 3rd world countries looking for payola. Other countries like Japan, S. Korea, Australia, and a European country or two that are now broke will be less than enthusiastic.
In other news, another “exciting and rare event ” is scheduled for Tuesday out west here. In anticipation of the hoards of people who will make the trip to see (probably more than a solar eclipse ).. I have set up lawn chairs to experience this first hand. So many people will want to see this that no one will want to fly out of Denver, so I think the airlines will cancel flights. A lot of people ” just don’t know what snow looks like”.
A series of man made tragedies. A made up climate change, government’s that allow people who are less than peaceful into countries where people who are, and people who think that killing people is what their god approves of. …. I have a question, how did they get such weapons in a country where those kind of weapons are banned? I’m sure most French wouldn’t have a clue where to get such weapons.
I’m astounded that the normally oh, so, skeptical participants here can so credulously swallow whole unproven claims from sources known for their unreliability.
Watching this terrorist scenario unfold took me back to the Charlie Hebdo episode, which had the hallmark signs of false flag operations – no claim of authorship by the supposed terrorist masterminds and no survivors to debrief. Just like 9/11, in fact.
Perhaps the Charlie event was too finely focused to fully engage the French and other Europeans, Maybe that incident left too many doubts about the authorship. It seems that this time there will be some suspects to “interrogate”, and we have, rather belatedly (certainly compared to the explosion on the Russian airliner) claim of authorship. At least, so we are told.
But lets look for some facts. Are the any? Will the public ever have an opportunity in the near future, if ever, to examine the authenticity of the reported ISIS claim that it masterminded this massacre? Will we ever have a chance to review the confessions and debriefings of the arrested suspects, none of whom, so far, are even purported to have been directly involved? You can be certain the answer is “never”.
The only fact that is indisputable is that this is the greatest boost the promoters of the international police state have received since 9/11. And the “free” press is jumping on the bandwagon with abandon. Surely we should be showing a bit more skepticism here.
As long as we’re going to discuss such vague concepts as “international terrorism”, let’s consider first, how a ragtag amateur army with no secure base within any national boundaries, and seemingly without support from any nation, can mount a successful war against two national armies supplied and supported by two of the world’s most powerful nations.
Let’s think about who stands to gain by a dismemberment of Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon, and what the redrawn map of the region would look like.
otropogo,
You’ve got me thinking…
“Maybe that incident left too many doubts about the authorship.”
Actually it did NOT.
Check out this point of view.
@dbstealey
“Check out this point of view.”
I did skim through it, and it makes me think there are also a lot of people on “our” side who are just itching for an excuse to slaughter other people.
Today I happened to watch a French movie about the St. Bartholomew massacre in Paris, 1572, in which the Catholic townspeople pitched in to murder all the Huguenot “heretics” they could get their hands on.
If anyone thinks things have really changed that much, just think back a couple of decades to the civil war in Yugoslavia.
If, as is claimed by the French press, 1500 French citizens have left France to join ISIS in Syria, France has a problem that won’t be solved by firepower. Taking hundreds of thousands of able bodied young Arabs into Europe isn’t going to help the situation a bit either.
I doubt Big Brother has the tools to stop suicidal individuals from running amok. But that realization certainly won’t stop expansion of police and military expenditures and recruitment. And there’s a limit to how much policing our society can support without grinding to a halt.
otropogo says:
Taking hundreds of thousands of able bodied young Arabs into Europe isn’t going to help the situation a bit either.
You got that right. And the Administration is taking them into the U.S. by the millions (while barring any Christian immigrants from the Middle East, which are the real victims). President Obama just doubled down; his Administration is actively promoting and encouraging much greater numbers of Muslim
invadersimmigrants.The link I posted pointed out who they think is actually behind the terrorism. Right or wrong, it’s a view worth considering. The question that should always be asked: Cui bono? They gave a credible answer. Right or wrong? I’m still not sure.
Also, the Paris attack was not by ‘individuals’, it was a highly coordinated attack that had clearly been planned for a while.
I’m certainly not advocating the demonization of any particular race of people, or any group defined by their language. But I see the religion of Islam as a central problem. Islam specifically gives permission to commit these atrocities, and in fact, it openly encourages the wanton slaughter innocent people. That is intolerable. And have you heard any Islamist or group denounce what happened? I sure haven’t.
For those reasons I would support any finding or conclusion by any country or world body that Islam is an outlaw religion. All support; financial, governmental, and by groups or charities or by any other means, must be withdrawn until Islam either renounces terrorist actions, or they are so marginalized that being a member of that evil sect forecloses any possibility of someone getting employment by any government, or any tax breaks, or any other benefits of civilized society. A good start would be to assess a new tax on mosques and other organs of that religion.
I know I’m still in the minority with those suggestions. But attacks like this make more and more folks begin thinking like that. And when Islamist terrorists get hold of nukes, I’ll be part of a large majority.
Gary Pearse
November 14, 2015 at 7:45 pm
In reference to Ronald Reagan’s presidency, you wrote:
“Well, it turned out rather well.”
Yes, I agree; it turned out rather well for the very wealthy, along with the myth and image makers, and those intoxicated by their efforts, but for those of us with modest means, who dwell in reality rather than in myths, I suggest the so-called “Great Communicator’s” presidency was a disaster for the United States of America.
Under President Ronald Reagan, the U.S. became a debtor nation for the first time since WWI after his tax cuts for the wealthy. In order to make up the budgetary shortfall, he cut government services, and raised taxes on the middle class eleven times, including the largest tax increase in U.S. history.
Under Reagan, the national debt increased from just under $1 trillion to almost $3 trillion. Despite his promises to reduce the size of the federal government, the number of federal employees grew under his administrations.
“The budget for the Department of Education, which candidate Reagan promised to abolish along with the Department of Energy, has more than doubled to $22.7 billion, Social Security spending has risen from $179 billion in 1981 to $269 billion in 1986. The price of farm programs went from $21.4 billion in 1981 to $51.4 billion in 1987, a 140% increase. And this doesn’t count the recently signed $4 billion “drought-relief” measure. Medicare spending in 1981 was $43.5 billion; in 1987 it hit $80 billion. Federal entitlements cost $197.1 billion in 1981—and $477 billion in 1987.”
https://mises.org/library/sad-legacy-ronald-reagan-0
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-ronald-reagans-legacy/2011/02/04/ABs1qxQ_story.html
http://www.rippdemup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/National-Debt-Chart.jpg
(through 2011 for Obama)
There was also that little matter of trading arms for hostages, negotiating with the Iranians before the election (that by itself is treason), signing into law amnesty for illegal aliens…
The reported attacks in Paris raise the question of motive, and as always, the telling question is who profits from this atrocity? The French had announced deployment of an aircraft carrier to the Syrian coast, and it was reported earlier this year that Hollande’s France had delivered arms to Syrian rebels trying to topple Syrian president Bashar al-Assad, in breach of an EU embargo on such activities. Hmmm.
(Libya was another story, with then-French president Sarkozy leading the call for a no-fly zone over Libya after Gaddafi had threatened to release some naughty details about Sarkozy.)
“after Gaddafi had threatened to release some naughty details about Sarkozy”
And we are still waiting for these details.
Why would you kill someone who has “naughty details” about you?
Doesn’t make much sense, does it?
Obama will have doubled the national debt by the time he leaves. It was $10 trillion in 2009. Now it’s $18 Tr.
GM,
This is our national predicament:
http://36.media.tumblr.com/ef2c2049eef3eb6eb4e6432ae7f408a0/tumblr_nx6ysq157I1rhnukoo1_1280.jpg
During his term I lived in the UK. On UK TV there was a great satirical show called “Spitting Image”. He was never shown to be all that great from memory. He was clueless and Thatcher was a thug.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/11/13/breaking-news-major-terrorist-atrocity-in-paris-just-weeks-until-cop21/#comment-2072557
For some reason, my comment has been posted waaay upstream….
And now – overnight – we have the disgusting spectacle of citizens fleeing when gunfire (apparent gunfire) is heard. These poor sods can’t turn and face the threat because they have nothing to face the threat with having been disarmed by their government. When will we ever learn? How successful do you think Paris style attacks would be in Houston?
I was horrified on what happened in Paris and I’m having doubts, right now, on the question if there is any state from the modern world who could guarantee the safety of its citizens…. I’m not sure if France could guarantee the safety of those who will take part at COP21, but on the other hand, I must admit that I’m not a fan of this conference, and here’s why: http://oceansgovernclimate.com/100-000-000-000-us-per-year-for-waste/…….
A new level in the “Gore effect”…
French sleuths have found a Syrian passport – which multiple sources say is fake – linking one of the dead terrorists to Syria, and apparently, ISIS.
A fake passport found beside a suicide bomber after the attack at France’s national stadium was apparently used to enter Europe less than two months ago on a route taken by hundreds of thousands of refugees and migrants.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/15/why-syrian-refugee-passport-found-at-paris-attack-scene-must-be-treated-with-caution
Syrian passports found near the bodies of two of the suspected Paris attackers were fakes that were likely made in Turkey, police sources in France told Channel 4 News on Sunday.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syrian-passports-found-scene-paris-attacks-fakes-made-turkey-police-520642631
PARIS—France launched extensive airstrikes against Islamic State’s stronghold in Syria on Sunday evening, responding with the force vowed by the government when it blamed the Paris terrorist attacks on the extremist group.
The airstrikes delivered 20 bombs to two targets in Raqqa, in northern Syria, a French defense official said. The bombs targeted a command center, including an arms depot and a recruiting post, and a training camp, the official said.
The 12 aircraft involved in the strikes flew from both Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, said another French official.
–WS Journal
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-providing-targeting-intelligence-to-france-for-strikes-on-islamic-state-after-paris-attacks-1447618522
What I didn’t know was the French have been conducting air strikes in Syria since September 27, 2015.
Speaking in New York, Mr Hollande said a political solution was needed to end the Syrian crisis, but President Bashar al-Assad could not be part of it.
France, like the UK, has previously confined its air strikes against the Islamic State group to Iraqi airspace.
The UK announced earlier this month it had carried out a drone strike against two British citizens in Syria but has yet to fly manned operations in Syrian airspace.
France had previously maintained that international law prevented it from attacking targets in Syria – Paris was adamant that it would do nothing to help, even indirectly, the Assad government, says the BBC’s Hugh Schofield in Paris.
But the French government has now accepted that getting rid of Mr Assad is no longer the priority and the fight against IS trumps everything else, our correspondent says.
–BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34372892
Meanwhile, in Antalya, Turkey world leaders have convened for G20 summit, where Obama and Putin reportedly huddled for a 35 minute meeting.
I know, I know; my post got buried way up here instead of down at the bottom where I posted it because “WordPress has major problems with comment time stamps”.
Ah so.
Just got back from a trip to Dubbo in the western Division of NSW.
Everything is flourishing and green.The prognostications about this El Nino have yet to eventuate.
Paris COP could have a true carbon neutral conference by either cancelling it or doing most of it on Skype.
Just think of the safety aspects for themselfs as well as for the Planet
$100 bucks says the border closing and increased security will be used to prevent ‘skeptics’ from entering France, especially key speakers. ‘Security’ as cover for suppression. And the globalist media will say only ‘U.S. signs on!’ in obnoxious headlines everywhere. And PM Trudeau will become the new media darling. This looks baaaad.