See Update 6 – a poll has been added about whether the COP21 climate conference in Paris should continue as planned.
Guest essay by Eric Worrall
BREAKING NEWS – a major Terrorist attack is in progress in Paris, which will shortly host the COP21 Climate Conference. At least 140 40 people are reported to be dead, up to 100 hostages still unaccounted for.
According to Sky News Australia;
French police officials say at least 40 people have been killed in multiple attacks in Paris, including one near the Stade de France sports stadium and another at a concert venue.
French Media is reporting at least 60 people have been killed.
Fifteen of the victims have been killed at the Bataclan concert hall in eastern Paris, with reports saying a further 100 people have been taken hostage.
Others have been killed in explosions near the stadium just north of Paris, where a France-Germany football match was taking place, and in a restaurant shooting.
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Lets us all hope that French authorities manage to stop this horrific terrorist attack, with minimal further loss of life.
UPDATE by Anthony: I wonder if President Obama will rethink his threat priorities now, this from the White House Twitter feed in April:
Update 2: I will add, that this is a terrible terrible thing, and I think I speak for all WUWT readers that our hearts go out to the victims and their families in Paris. Let’s hope there is a swift end to this, and that the guilty will be brought to justice.
Update 3: France is under a state of emergency, and has closed its borders:
“French President Francois Hollande declared a state of emergency and in a televised address to the nation announced that he was closing the country’s borders ‘to make sure that those who have committed these crimes can be stopped.’ He also indicated that authorities knew who was responsible for the attacks.”
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/13/dozens-killed-in-paris-terror-attacks?int=9b9e08
Update4: Meanwhile, Al Gore’s 24 hour climate change webcast is hosted at the Eiffel Tower.
http://news.yahoo.com/al-gore-hosting-climate-telethon-paris-eiffel-tower-163634484.html
It appears the 24 hours of reality/act on climate video feed is off now, probably a sensible thing to do. Screencap from https://www.climaterealityproject.org/24hoursofreality
Update 5: questions about COP21 already being asked according to BBC Europe editor Katya Adler:
Update 5: Watch France 24 Live in English http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed
Update 6: Poll added, since this is being discussed in media worldwide now.
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I have an Army aviation veteran, farmer, builder and logger buddy who flew Hueys in Nam and Peru and minigunships in Afghanistan who says not to worry about Muslims taking over Europe because they will assimilate, seduced by rock music, wine or some other aspect of Western culture, He says they’ll eventually just become another religion on an increasingly secular continent, and that Europe has no choice because its population isn’t replacing itself.
So far, the assimilation doesn’t seem to be happening rapidly enough.
The mullahs are keeping them in line and recruiting terrorists.
That’s a fine gamble for someone else to take with Europe’s future.
And if the gamble fails, and integration does not succeed, then what is plan B?
Do people imagine that we can just say, “shucks that was a big mistake, will all you guys go back to where you came from”?
This is nothing just wait till ISIS ect get their hands on drones with nuclear material. Trump or right wing GOP will now win the next USA election. UK will leave the European Union. It may be necessary to nuke certain Middle east areas. All immigration from Arab countries and Africa to Europe and the Americas will have to be totally stopped
In which case murdered and maimed will not have suffered in vain.
Eliza writes:
Why would ISIS need remotely piloted aerial vehicles (“drones”) to deliver their weapons? The jihadi tradition of self-destruction in battle against the enemies of Islam is already manifest in suicide bombings accomplished by loading cars and trucks with explosives and driving them into the midst of their opponents.
Think; “Islamic kamikazes.”
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It takes advanced technology to create a nuke that is small enough to fit on a drone.
N. Koreas first nuke was similar in size to those dropped on Japan. The same will be true of Iran’s.
Well there are the 1KT Russian suitcase nukes, of which many, according to a Russian general, are unaccounted for:
“Russian National Security Advisor, General Aleksander Lebed. Lebed claimed that the former Soviet Union had not only manufactured but had lost track of perhaps 100 of a very frightening weapon: a nuclear bomb in a casing which made it appear to be a small suitcase, designed to be detonated by a single operator with as little as a single half-hours notice. Lebed claimed that the devices had a yield of 1 kiloton”
http://www.gizmag.com/suitcase-nukes-fact-or-fiction/18506/
Paris is the most beautiful city in the world. I’ve spent many layovers and vacations there, walking the city, visiting the sites. I could be a tour guide.
But because of the danger, I won’t be going back. I feel sorry for all the people who, out of caution or fear, will never see the city that I most love.
Unfortunately it’s filled with Parisians, whom even other French don’t like.
I go in August, when they’re all on vacation.
Ironic, this is what the President said one day before the Paris attacks and while the Administration was spiking the football for killing one of the ISIS terrorists.
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/13/obama-no-isis-isnt-gaining-strength-now/
“I don’t think they’re gaining strength,” the president told Stephanopoulos in an interview at the White House Thursday. “From the start our goal has been first to contain, and we have contained them. They have not gained ground in Iraq. And in Syria it — they’ll come in, they’ll leave.
“But you don’t see this systematic march by ISIL across the terrain,” he added, using the government’s acronym for ISIS. …
The president said his team has crafted a strategy that “contained the momentum that ISIL had gained,” but said there will continue to be problems in the region “until we get the Syria political situation resolved.”
“Until [Syrian President Bashar al-] Assad is no longer a lightning rod for Sunnis in Syria and that entire region is no longer a proxy war for Shia-Sunni conflict, we’re going to continue to have problems,” he said. “I would distinguish between making sure that the place is perfect — that’s not going to happen anytime soon — with making sure that ISIL continues to shrink in its scope of operations until it no longer poses the kind of threat that it does.”
Wayyyyyy out on the edge, if you ask me….
The cost of the conference just sky-rocketed.
That won’t bother them. Spending other people’s money gives them a sexual thrill.
For those who think these attacks are relatively recent one needs only to look back in History when Jefferson was President and frustrated by Muslim attacks on US Ships. After reading the Koran and used the Marines to resolve the matter. More of our leaders in the Administration should also read the Koran. Israel was not a nation then so lets forget the excuses many by many.
“The Tripoli Muslim ambassador was very straightforward. He said, basically, “That’s what we do. We are commanded to do so by Allah.” Jefferson later wrote that the Tripoli ambassador told him, “It was written in their Koran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman (Muslim) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise.”
Completely taken aback by this revelation, Jefferson decided to look into the matter further, and did the one thing everyone should do: He read the Koran. He learned what Islam was about.
And when he became president, he expanded and then mobilized the United States Navy to protect American ships from Muslim piracy and then sent Marines to the shores of Tripoli, who soundly defeated the Muslim warriors. This brought an end to the “Barbary Coast Pirates.” This was the first foreign war fought by the U.S. and military aggressiveness of Islamic countries remained contained and weakened for over a century.”
The threat of Barbary Pirate corsairs slave-raiding European shipping and coastal towns wasn’t finally ended until the French conquest of Algeria in 1830.
The US fought two “Barbary Wars”. Jefferson led the first in 1801-05, against piratical cities in Libya, Tunisia and Algeria. Madison conducted the second in 1815.
And Jefferson was an opponent of the blue water navy. He wanted a maritime militia in coastal gunboats disparagingly called “Jeffs”.
So sad. We are with you France
These guys provided the COP21 people with the perfect excuse to postpone that ” meeting” They would have done irreparable damage to their “cause” if done then.
Best wishes to all the injured and sincere condolences to the families of the dead.
So how long does the world tolerate Saudi Arabia funding the Wahhabi sect (Salafist, Takfir, etc, whatever they call themselves this week)? They have been funding schools and mosques throughout the world for 60+ years to the tune of 100 billion dollars to teach and promote this un-Islamic form of Islam.
So if France wants to retaliate break off diplomatic relations with Saudi Arabia until they stop all funding of this filth? How about everyone focus on “follow the money”? The leader of Turkey has a son who if profiting off the sale of oil from un-Islamic State. How about going after them?
To paraphrase George Carlin on the drug trade “kill a few bankers laundering the money” and you will see results.
Is there a Charles Martel around somewhere, anywhere?
Vladimir Putin?
Unfortunately, he wants to wipe out the Turkish-backed Free Syrian Army most threatening to Assad’s Alawite homeland in western Syria before trying to rid eastern Syria’s Euphrates Valley of ISIS.
That area to the north of Latika, where the Russian base is, is controlled by al-Nusra which are ideologically the same as Islamic State just different leaders. Of course Russia will remove the al-Nusra bunch first as they are closest and controlled Aleppo.
There is no Free Syrian Army outside of press conferences and a small group living in Turkey. The FSA is a classic paper tiger. It only exists on paper.
Let us not forget that those attending COP21 believe that ‘global warming’ started the war in Syria and therefore, as an extension, caused the atrocities in Paris.
How do they feel about that, one wonders..? Will they double down and use it as an excuse to push for more world government, while shrieking “Islamophobes” at the piles of dead?
The time for appeasement is at an end and all-out war is required, like never before. Obama, this means you – it’s high time for you to grow a pair and step up.
COP21 will proceed as planned. There will be lots of cops around. Sanity disabled.
MSM news over here now say that this is precisely what is going to happen. These things are not unrelated.
Concentrating all the security around the conference venues leaves the rest of the country vulnerable.
“Proud Islamophobe” George Garbow’s updated UK national anthem:
Brian – I meant that even without this unecessary COP21 – this killing would have taken place – and somebody said “beware on the 11th of november” –
but it probably has something to do the problems of migrants
somebody said that by declaring war to Irak – the gates to hell have been opened –
and later on that we had Lybia and Syria – ……… (no names ….) and Yemen (saudi arabia and qatar maybe)
For the moment I know there are over 150 deads – i feel terribly sorry for them and family
david,mhoffer
I didn’t write the article in the Forward or give it the title, “Jews unite…”. If you think the reportage I cited is an example of “spewing hate,” you should write to them and complain.
Nor did I write this example of genocidal hate speech:
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“Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel’s targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria.”
-Oded Yinon, (A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s
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What one Jew says, instantly becomes what all Jews are thinking?
We all are facing a significant terrorist threat and instead of dealing with it properly, we waste billions of dollars on some mythical climate change threat!
First of all, my heart goes out to all of those caught up in this atrocity, especially to those who have lost their lives (except for the perpetrators) and their loved ones who are trying to come to terms with this terrible loss.
I was caught up in the 7/7 bombings in London (I was in one of the following tubes stuck in the tunnels just 1 or 2 tubes behind the one that got blown up and had to be evacuated out of the tunnels), and I was out on the streets the following week when there were new bomb scares and the Police cordoned off the area right next to me, pushing me back and preventing me from going where I wanted to go and all public transport was closed, so I know what it feels like to be on the edge of these events.
Regrettably, this is an incident just waiting to happen, and I fear that there will be many more such happenings due to the weak leadership of our Political Masters and the lefty luvies in MSM and other NGOs. The price for welcoming mass migration (which has no doubt been infiltrated by terrorist sympathisers) who do not share the values of the West and who want to recreate the culture, society, law and way of live of the countries from which they have just fled, is yet to be felt here in Europe. These people’s values are simply incompatible with Western values, and the Western way of life, and our Political Masters stand dazzled in the headlights, and have no answer, and have no coherent policies for dealing with this situation and its future impact on our way of life. The lefties are simply in denial that it is anything to do with their policies that they have been espousing for decades. Even Blair cannot come to admit the role played by the 2nd incursion into Iraq, and the overthrow of government in Libya, and the destabilisation of the Middle East and promotion of the Arab Spring (Blair not being directly responsible for the 2nd two, but he wields a lot of influence behind the scenes, for some reason he is still respected by many Political leaders). Enough of the political rant.
If this had happened a couple of days before COP21, it would have been called off since the security forces would have been too stretched in the immediate aftermath of this event. However, a week or so after this event will be the safest time to visit Paris, since the terrorists have shot their bolt and need to regroup/re-plan their further strategies. That said, with diplomatic leaders, security will obviously be stepped up and will cost a lot more (Politicians are always more concerned about themselves than they are about the public). Further there may well be a number of world leaders who may shun appearing, letting their deputies sit in for them. Yet further, the local Parisian businesses may not do as well as predicted since many delegates and attendees may think twice about spending a night out on the tiles, or shopping in the fashionable boutiques.
Anyway best wishes to all the innocents in Paris.
Thank you for this balanced, non-knee-jerk assessment of the situation.
I am a little concerned by the presence of so many over-simplified, “blame the Koran only” comments on this thread. Yes, understanding the nature of Islamism and the reasons by which it leads to incompatibility with democracy and liberty – these approaches are important.
But, as you point out. Western policies have also played a significant role on the road toward the current potentially catastrophic situation. Both the policies enacted overseas, and the policy of permitting mass immigration into our own lands.
So thanks for outlining these components in a manner that does not suggest that you have any specific ideological allegiances. It’s a multifactorial problem. But our political masters have lead us into this crisis.
I suspect that our leftist masters wanted to import “victims” because they quietly believed that they were importing people who would vote for the left. Unfortunately they may have accidentally have triggered a massive swing towards support of the extreme right in the process.
Personally, I didn’t want or ask for either.
Mr. Frog,
Western policies have nothing to do with this 1400 year old attack on civilizations.
Yeah, and it was terrible the way that we got “sucked into” all those crusades.
Why didn’t Saladin just leave us alone!!!
The Islamic desire to attack the West has been there all along, the middle eastern break down simply allowed the organization to become more effective. ONLY to that extent is the west to blame.
Sure, I am quite aware of the long history.
What puzzles me though, is the massive gamble that Europe has taken in convincing itself that somehow over 1000 years of animosity can be laid to rest by inviting millions of muslims to come and set up home over here.
Pretty dumb in my view. And we can only blame ourselves.
I was in London the time of the July 2005 bombing but it happened shortly after my plane was leaving Heathrow for Kiev. No, the Iraqi war didn’t help, but the idiotic massive immigration of people who don’t want democracy, they want theocracy and they hate western culture which they see has dirty and immoral.
It is entirely unproductive to keep playing the self-guilt card. Something more pragmatic and proactive has to be done. First, you have to get rid of the totally ineffectual lefty governments (including Cameron who certainly isn’t ‘right’) for having recklessly put its people and culture at terminal risk. Left as it is, demographics within two generations will make it illegal to have an institution called Christ College, and the art, laws, justice system, museums, music, poetry, novels, essays, the Magna Carta and all cultural relics will be gone. The way of life will be a return to the Middle Ages and before. From the comments from the many Europeans here, I fear they will do little.
Cityislockeddownthismorning
First my condolences to all those that have lost loved ones, friends, and the sense of security from internal conflict.
Second, the terrorists confirmed what many people are already thinking. These people are bad and aren’t here to become part of the country.
Third, what is wrong with our government’s? They aren’t there to cause the citizens of any country grief. With immigration that is exactly what they are doing. These people don’t have the same customs, morels, history, or anything in common. Whether the increase in welfare is true or not, they still put a burden on the rest of society. Who needs this kind of stress?. The rights, liberities, and individual freedoms get suppressed bringing these kinds of people . The only thing the government’s are doing is spreading civil war to places that were once peaceful. Do I think the Islamic centers in the US are Americans first and Muslims second? No. They haven’t and aren’t proving it. Just because the government says so isn’t something that’s true. There is something wrong when you start believing the policies of a Russian president over that of the United States.
Why isn’t the Islamic world taking in their “brothers”? They have plenty of money from oil and gas. Indonesia, Iranian, Saudis, all of north Africa, Pakistani, all of the stans. Is there something wrong with the leaders of the west?
Over time the only thing that will happen here is war and conflict. Religious fueled wars are the worst.
Re: “What is wrong with our governments.” I too have pondered this question.
But, primarily I have asked what is wrong with the political left. Since no right wing parties have pushed for mass-immigration – to my knowledge.
And so I am currently at the point of concluding that the left seeks to import a massive number of dependents and supporters of the left.
In the absence of a better explanation – self-interest usually explains most human phenomena.
Obviously there are other factors such as leftist ideological subversion – but I’m inclined to thing that the selfish motive trumps all else, in all things!!
Sometimes that’s true. I guess it’s true in my case. I don’t want to freeze to death from some crazy telling me it’s hot in July when it’s 50 f. And I certainly don’t want to be a slave to a religious cause.
Yeah, I don’t want my house to be flooded because some idiots decided not to maintain a man-made drainage channel.
Especially not, when they already had sufficient evidence that such dereliction of duty leads to sustained and widespread flooding – but they decided to blame the flooding on climate change and warn everybody to expect more of the same.
I’m selfish, I don’t want to be drowned by clowns!!!
It’s funny because in the 80ties, some PCF (French Communist Party) heads were fighting immigration, even with bulldozer to destroy migrant camps.
Immigration was seen by the communists and (a lot of the left) as a way for the exploiting class to lower wages.
Now these communists would be labelled as far-right off the present extreme right (FN): “extreme-far-extreme-right”, maybe.
There was a point when being pro-muslim arabic immigration because the new normal according to “political experts” and the parisian “elite”.
Yes, that would be the stance of rational self interest for the workers.
But the left political class no longer represent the workers.
Perhaps they are interested in union support but they seem to be primarily interested in feathering their own nests. And promoting themselves into lifelong unelected positions as part of the international bureaucratic elite.
Terra Nova, the think tank of PS (socialist party), explicitly expressed the idea that the left lost the working class, so now the left needs to find new groups of electors:
– LGBT (hence gay marriage, even if many very socialist districts are traditional catholic unhappy with gay marriage)
– arabo-islamic immigrants. In poor, high criminality, high immigration suburbs, François Hollande made ridiculously high scores in the presidential election. “The 93” (département de Seine-Saint-Denis) had huge spendings, is bankrupt (but then the State make everybody pays), still has huge spendings, and is very socialist. Note: Claude Bartolone, the president of the 93, who managed to bankrupt the department with dangerous variable-rate credits (some based on Franc Suisse/Euro parity), has been punished by a nomination as president of the national assembly. France loves people who bankrupt things.
– women, who apparently need more rights in France (?). (Women acquired full citizen rights extremely late in France, with the right to vote only after WWII (later than Turkey), and the right for a married woman to have a bank account without husband’s permission even later, but they now have equal rights.)
See: http://www.marianne.net/hervenathan/Quand-la-gauche-dit-adieu-aux-ouvriers-et-employes_a101.html
You have but one alternative : UPR – François Asselineau –
UPR is even more nationalist and fascist (and silly) than all the others.
UPR wanted the government to officially declare war to ISIS, which implies:
– reconnaissance of ISIS as a state
– appointing a representant of ISIS (or even a full blown embassy?)
– giving the representant a declaration of war
Other nonsense from UPR, they want to force the use of French for teaching, saying the use of English in a teaching institution violates the Constitution. (!)
UPR points out a few real issues then provide inept solutions.
The UK media is spinning this as attacks on gatherings and crowds.
Let’s be clear about this. Muslim terrorists choose theaters, concerts, night clubs and stadiums to prevent people having fun. The entire thrust of the Koran and Hadith is to subjugate the unbelievers as serfs, and to spend all your time in prayer. Anything outside prayer is considered a waste of time, and so traditional Muslim societies had (and have) very little entertainment for the people. Show me the Saudi philharmonic orchestra, the Saudi ballet company, the Saudi comedy theater, the Saudi rock bands, the Saudi Hollywood, the Saudi satirical newspaper, the Saudi Olympic heroes, or even the Saudi Nobel Prize winners.
So these attacks on theaters, concerts, stadium, satirical papers and even restaurants, are NOT simply attacks on crowds, they are an attack on Western culture. The aim is to make people afraid to go out to entertainments, and thereby prevent entertainments from happening at all. It is an attempt to make us conform to Muslim culture, to always conform to Muslim culture, and never oppose Muslim culture.
R
Spot on ralfellis. If you haven’t already read the book “Infidel” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali – then you will find it illuminating. It gives an insider view of life within this culture of oppression. And much more – since she then describes her arrival in the west. I already held your view, but after reading this book I realized that – “it’s worse than we think”!!!
>>Spot on ralfellis. If you haven’t already read the book “Infidel”
>>by Ayaan Hirsi Ali – then you will find it illuminating.
Yes, I read that back in Jan 2007. Better still you need to read Robert Spencer. The Left have demonised Spencer, but everything he says comes straight from Islamic history.
R
The UK media is spinning this as attacks on gatherings and crowds.
Let’s be clear about this. Muslim terrorists choose theaters, concerts, night clubs and stadiums to prevent people having fun. The entire thrust of the Koran and Hadith is to subjugate the unbelievers as serfs, and to spend all your time in prayer. Anything outside prayer is considered a waste of time, and so traditional Muslim societies had (and have) very little entertainment for the people. Show me the Saudi philharmonic orchestra, the Saudi ballet company, the Saudi comedy theater, the Saudi rock bands, the Saudi Hollywood, the Saudi satirical newspaper, the Saudi Olympic heroes, or even the Saudi Nobel Prize winners.
So these attacks on theaters, concerts, stadium, satirical papers and even restaurants, are NOT simply attacks on crowds, they are an attack on Western culture. The aim is to make people afraid to go out to entertainments, and thereby prevent entertainments from happening at all. It is an attempt to make us conform to Muslim culture, to always conform to Muslim culture, and never oppose Muslim culture.
R
And weddings, people relaxing at the beach. Like shooting fish in a barrel, unarmed and unaware. Such brave jhadist! Can’t take down a dictatorship but killing people who pose no threat, now that’s a real accomplishment. Oh, wait, they’ll just replace one dictator with another. … I think that’s why countries started having uniformed militaries. They all become suspect and subject to any abuse the host country lays out. Even in the case of the US and Japanese internment, emperor worship was still a thing, and the Japanese up till that time were winning. The terrorists certainly weren’t Frenchmen in any sense.
There really are some vile comments on here. Anthony should be ashamed to preside over a site that allows them.
Since when has the truth been deemed to be ‘vile’?
What I fine vile is to watch the new James Bond movie, and find them blaming world terrorism in many capital cities on Westerners and upon the Pale King. Now that is truly vile.
So you don’t think, for example, this comment is beyond the pail?
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Kit Carruthers
November 14, 2015 at 6:43 am
So you don’t think, for example, this comment is beyond the pail?
Leading contender for Ironic Malaprop of the Day.
I wasn’t asking you.
Kit Carruthers:November 14, 2015 at 2:16 am
100% agreed, Kit. But that is precisely why they should be allowed and WUWT to be applauded. I am now much, much better informed of the global spectrum of thought on the myriad issues surrounding the Paris attacks. Is your physical constitution too delicate to hear what other people think? N.B. I didn’t even ask which of the comments you considered to be vile. On behalf of censors worldwide, thank you for your support.
Oh, and a reminder to all, the only people who should be allowed to vote are the ones who think exactly like me.
[note – there was one set of comments by a single commenter that were “over the top” and didn’t trigger moderation flags since the issue discussed here was new to the site. That one set of comments from that commenter have now been snipped because hey violated site policy. all others remain -mod]
Glad to hear it.
H.R. Ever heard of hate speech?
I can stomach pretty much anything, but that doesn’t mean I – or others – should either accept or be subjected to it.
I’ve heard of hate speech. It usually means any speech that a leftist disagrees with.
Kit asks H.R., “H.R. Ever heard of hate speech?”
Yes indeedy, and I prefer to hear it and know who is saying it so I know where they stand and I can watch my back.
Also, MarkW gives this definition of hate speech, “It usually means any speech that a leftist disagrees with.” However, I was referring to racial slurs, direct threats of violence, etc., but I do perceive that his definition is probably the more accurate description of use of the phrase, ‘Hate Speech.’
Oh… and thanks, mod for the note on why the one comment was deleted. Site policy is clear to anyone who cares to read it. Much appreciated.
Absolute rubbish. However, the merchants of hate are usually on the far-right so perhaps you’re thinking of everyone left of that position? Are you far-right?
Kit Carruthers
No. But, you see, I have heard very little from the far left (self-called “progressives”, “Socialists”, “liberals”, and “leftists” ) EXCEPT hatred, jealousy, envy, economic and religious and racist-based bigotry. (Technically, I have NEVER heard anything EXCEPT hatred, jealousy, envy, economic and religious and racist-based bigotry from any liberal politician, “preacher” or “scientist” or “news-reader-and-writer, but there may have been a single quote that I’ve missed the past 24 years. So I will not claim absolutely that every “liberal progressive” world-wide is a hate-filled racist economically ignorant bigot, because one or two somewhere might be different.
8<)
So Noami Oreskes is far-right?
Your rose colored glasses will be one day removed from you, methinks.
I’ve no idea what you’re talking about.
Isn’t there a post on here about how the warmest are bracing for the worst? Let’s get this conference postponed. Maybe the weather will change in time for a rescheduled affair. If there is a next one. Seems like a lot of the major players were not going to play if no pay anyway.
What a way to get it postponed.
No-one will ever know if the mass inward migration of non-EU citizens into a borderless Europe has aided these terrorists in arriving (after all, Northern Irish terrorists managed to bomb Britain pretty effectively despite all kinds of border controls in the 1970s + 1980s), but one does suspect that the concept was always a flawed one. The question will arise as to whether France will ever stand down its border controls again once the immediate threats have subsided.
As for ISIL, well, they emerged from our inveterate meddling and funding of disparate groups for 50 years, all of whom we knew full well to be murderous insurgents.
We funded Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan and turned a blind eye when Saudi Arabia funded his programmes there. Not that Saudi Arabia has Western values, democracy or human rights. It has a Wahhabi Islamic Royal Family, its treatment of woman is a disgrace and its attitude to democracy non-existent. It agreed to prop up the petrodollar for Richard Nixon and ever since then, no American has been prepared to challenge any of their actions, no matter how anti-Western in nature.
When we destroyed Iraq from 2003 onwards, we created mayhem and blithely assumed that peaceful democracy emerges from such mayhem. Sorry to inform you folks, that’s ‘real world politics 101’ contradicted right there. We didn’t go in there to serve human rights, democracy or anything else: we went in there to tell the Middle East that America was king and don’t you forget it, as revenge for 9/11. Well, out of that bombing emerged a state worse than Saddam Hussein’s, which was really a very, very long way from optimal, wasn’t it?? Good job in the State Department, Tony Blair’s Foreign Office etc etc……
And so when that was done, we started funding insurgents in Syria to try and topple Bashar al Assad, who ran a stable, if highly unpleasant country with links to Russia, not America. If he had had close links to America, you would be telling the world what a good ally he was and forgotten how many people he killed, gassed or maimed. That’s what US/UK does. Those insurgents, who were they?? ISIL. That’s right, we funded the folks who are now Islamic State. You’d have thought after about 15 rounds of funding insurgents who turned into anti-western terrorists that CIA would have learned its lesson, but no. So that tells us that CIA’s policy is American policy and ‘geostrategic in nature’. It can’t be anything else, because it’s played out on every middle east front around. Including the now-failed state Libya, which was again a peaceful, stable country run by a highly unpleasant dictator called Gadaafi. Now I wonder how much oil and gas wealth can be put to productive use for the domestic economy now, eh?? Great job there too…….well played, all.
Now if we believe in western values, we don’t believe in Monarchies espousing slavery, do we?? Oops. Strike one for US/UK foreign policy. We don’t believe in destroying the western oil industries through price wars, do we? Oops. Strike two for US/UK foreign policy. We don’t believe in cutting out a stable primary tumour to let huge numbers of invasive metastatic tumours run riot all over Europe, do we? Oops. Strike three for US/UK foreign policy.
I think it’s fairly clear that, whether anyone at this site likes to believe it or not, New World Order elite foreign policy has been to create murderous mayhem all over the Middle East, then to over-run Europe to destroy it, so that global corporations can turn Europe into a subservient plaything for the remainder of the 21st century.
And if that is true, no more of the ‘we’re benevolent nice people’.
When will you get Massachusetts declaring that Texas and California must accept 5 million Mexican migrants, all of whom are entitled to immediate housing, social benefits and immediate access to all the infrastructures of schooling, healthcare etc??
Do you think that would trigger Civil War MK II??
Well that is where Europe is at right now, American friends…….