Guest essay by Eric Worrall
It didn’t take long for Australia’s new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to tear up his promise to keep Abbott’s climate policies. Now Turnbull appears to have taken the next step.
Australians voted overwhelmingly against carbon pricing in the last Federal Election, but for some strange reason carbon pricing now seems to be back on the agenda again – except this time, the major Australian Political parties may be planning to present a seamless non choice to Australian voters.
According to The Guardian;
Leaders from business, welfare, the conservation movement, the electricity sector and the union movement have moved to try to fill Australia’s climate policy vacuum by starting a new slogan-free debate to help political parties find workable greenhouse policies.
Mirroring the Turnbull government’s tax debate, in which all policy options are back “on the table”, the groups commissioned major consultancies to present on six climate policy options at a special closed-door summit this week. They intend to publish the results in a back-to-the-drawing-board policy “primer” to be released next year.
Indicating the extent to which six years of bitter climate policy war have forced wide-ranging discussion outside the political arena, advisers to environment minister Greg Hunt, resources minister Josh Frydenberg and Labor environment spokesman Mark Butler, as well as advisers to state governments, all attended the workshop as observers.
In Britain, this kind of shameless cross party policy rigging led to the rise of UKIP, which in the last UK election won over 3 million votes. In the UK, which has a “first past the post” election system, this wasn’t quite enough – it didn’t translate into a significant number of electoral victories, though UKIP came very close to reaching the critical threshold at which substantial wins become likely. But in Australia, which uses an alternate vote system, a voting block of this magnitude would likely have translated into a substantial number of electoral upsets.
Make no mistake, there is a potentially gigantic amount of money on the table. Quite apart from vast legitimate profits which can be made from slurping government green subsidies, or rent seeking off ordinary people’s electricity bills, carbon pricing also frequently opens new opportunities for criminals. In Denmark, in 2010, criminals defrauded the Denmark of billions of dollars, thanks to flaws in Denmark’s carbon pricing models, and a loophole in Denmark’s GST system.
Did I mention – by a coincidence, politicians may be planning to raise Australia’s GST tax rate.
In my opinion, Australian politicians from the major parties, may be becoming far too cosy with big green. A recent poll in Australia shows nothing has changed, Australians are still very skeptical of the need for carbon pricing. But politicians seem to have different ideas. If the cross party negotiations lead to a seamless cross party climate consensus, carbon pricing will become very difficult for voters to dislodge as a policy option.
This developing Aussie democratic deficit on climate policy almost happened in America – but someone who is well known to readers of WUWT, made it his personal mission to ensure Americans retained their freedom to choose between alternative climate policy options.
What can Australians do about this developing carbon pricing nightmare? One option which might work is to write to your MP. Its easy to assume that all letters from voters end up in the circular filing cabinet, but I assure you this is not the case – ultimately politicians know they have to win votes to keep their seat. If enough people write, there’s a very real chance politicians will be spooked into listening to their constituents, rather than their party leader.
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“Make no mistake, there is a potentially gigantic amount of money on the table.”
Indeed:
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/follow-the-money-part-2-goldman-sachs-getting-their-sitting-carbon-ducks-in-a-row/
I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that a similar big left-wing banking connection helped oust Harper in Canada and get Trudeau elected.
These big left-wing banks already have their carbon derivates (created by some of the same ilk that gave us the ones for the subprime mess) ready to go for the $20 trillion dollar a year cap-and-trade. They will profit immensely from this. In addition, so much money will be flowing into the government that there will be no need to raise taxes on the rich. They already screwed the middle class by pushing for the great society programs that were funded mainly by the middle classes via higher SS taxes.
What galls me is that we just sit like lemmings on the side correctly pointing out wrong-doing and how we are getting effed. Could it be that the same chemicals that are changing some male birds, frogs and various reptiles into females have lowered our T-levels? My doctor told me that men my age back in the ’50s had T-levels around 1200. Now the average is more like 600. Its possible that we are being feminized (purposely or by accident) and hence lack the cajones to stand up to these left-wing zealous surveillance and control-freaks? Certainly a possibility in my book as you can see the by-products ending up in the wild affecting birds and other wildlife (do a google news search for yourself) and how men’s T-levels today are about half of what they used to be.
You have a point. Could be a reaction to abundance of food and to the overpopulation, though. Too many most active men died in World Wars (though their genes would survive). Also, men were doing much more physical labor back in the 1950s. Socialist welfare inevitably leads toward widespread degeneration. Emasculation (and fattening) by something in the diet and water is also possible.
People (both men and women) looked much fitter than now in the documentary footage until about the beginning of 1980s, when something drastic began to happen. Rich people in their special communities like Silicon Valley don’t let their children eat supermarket food, don’t let them watch TV or use “smartphones”, and place them in private schools where lunches are made from the local organic produce only, and where electronic devices are forbidden. They know something. Their kids grow up much fitter and much more active physically and mentally than most of the population.
Usually such things are a result of the complex interplay of many factors — and I don’t necessarily exclude the possibility of an intentional influence on the mass scale: conspiracies do exist. The greatest of recent American writers, Jack Vance, suggested that mass control would be very possible via the municipal water distribution systems. It doesn’t take a genius to see that we are being methodically screwed. In some places in European cities I had a feeling sometimes that I am lost in some monstrous neurotic kindergarten or madhouse, where degeneration shows almost in every face.
2009: Former Opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull, having first likened climate sceptics to Holocaust deniers, smokers and Hitler appeasers, then plays the age card …
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/andrewbolt/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/turnbull_trust_a_child_above_an_old_scientist/desc/
Talkbull thinks one cold night is evidence of global warming:
[snip]
The fact is that climate fanatics are incompatible with a free civil society.
It is long past time to stop these alarmist con-artists whose appetite for tax payer money and utility bills is as insatiable as their obsession with a non-existent climate apocalypse.
I notice that someone has decided to put up a video parody of a Hitler play with Turnbull parody lines and dialogue. It is outrageous to use anything associated with the Third Reich to compare any Western Politician involved in Western Liberal philosophy and I demand that this vile Nazi propaganda is moderated.
This is the sort of stuff that I expect over at the extreme luvvy sites and I call on Mr Watts to reject this disgraceful use of National socialism to critique the politics of my nation.
Absolute gutter crawling!!!!!
Regards to all.
It’s not your site: you are a guest. You have no right to issue demands, like some petty little dictator.
Unlike Australians with our convict mentality, Americans are passionate about free speech.
Didn’t you know?
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Chinese developers last month snapped up most of the 15 sites in and around Melbourne sold by CBRE Group Inc. — five times the property broker’s usual monthly tally. The bulk of the deals were sealed after the Shanghai Composite Index started tumbling.
“It would seem that they’re actually doubling down,” said Mark Wizel, a senior director for CBRE in the city. “There’s been a genuine acceleration for the past three weeks.”
The flow of Chinese cash risks inflating Sydney and Melbourne house prices that are already beyond the reach of many Australians.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-14/china-doubles-down-on-aussie-property-after-shanghai-stock-rout
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FIGURES out this week show the Chinese are pumping money into the Australian property market like never before.
Financial services company Credit Suisse estimates that residential investment from Chinese-based investors and new immigrants from China will more than double over the next six years to $60 billion.
The company’s report out this week said Chinese buyers were “important drivers of house prices”, having claimed 23 per cent of new housing stock in Sydney
and 20 per cent in Melbourne in 2013-14.
http://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/chinese-property-investment-through-the-roof-what-it-really-means/story-fndban6l-1227348237828
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Hi Robert.
I note that you’re not offended by PM Talkbull calling me a Hitler Appeaser or Holocaust Denier.
Nice faux outrage.
Now I’m in moderation and I’m the bad guy?
Malcolm Turnbull, hypocrite without peer:
This bloke is not a conservative’s elbow:
So obviously:
Search: stopturnbull.com/interview-with-the-daily-mail/
Another alternative for conservatives is perhaps Australian Liberty Alliance (ALA) although their current energy policy is somewhat flaky.
I do not trust Malcolm Turncoat, he will destroy the conservative base of the liberal part and probably too late now to pull back away from his mission. Sadly we need the formation of a true new party, and this can only be accomplished with a new leader AND the National Party walking away from the coalition lead by Malcolm Turnbull. I am not sure if the Nationals have the ability and cohesiveness to dump the rest of the Turncoat Party, and to form a new Conservative Coalition. I am sure that the emboldened Turncoats will roll over and sacrifice Australia at the Paris talks and we will have the likes of Palmer calling the shots from the sidelines as he lines up with Malcolm and demands payment for his destabilization of Tony Abbot, and pushing the coalition as far left as they can while still maintaining some semblance of a conservative party while gutting this one.
WE badly need a new conservative leader to rally around, otherwise the nervous Nellies who think only of protecting their parliamentary seats will try and maintain and keep enough voters on side solely for that purpose rather that destruct this pale left wing shadow and hoping enough voters will remain and not risk a disastrous return to a Labor propped up green revival that economically crippled us in the past.
But maybe that disaster is a catalyst for the formation of a new Coalition, with conservative values and the purging of the Turncoat Camp, I cannot vote for a Turnbull lead coalition as I do not trust him at all. If there is a viable alternative, my vote is there along with my financial support.
The leader of the up and coming UKIP, Nigel Farage, is an example as an outsider challenge to the political class. He describes them as “Attending the same schools, going to the same parties, marrying each other’s sisters — you can’t get a cigarette paper between them!”
After UKIP’s recent high-mark of nearly 4 million votes, Nigel Farage has been discussing immigration policy as a member state of the European Union. He has for months been pointing out the success of the “Australian-style point system for immigration.”
So my question is, “Have the boats started arriving yet under the Turnbull Administration?” The flood of economic migrants — young men from Islamic countries — is ten-fold what immigration has historically been in the UK, and probably for other European countries, esp. the tiny nation of Greece. So I believe this is another reason Tony Abbott was targeted at this time, in tandem with the Paris COP summit 2015. Tony Abbott’s policy was in fact stopping the boats.
There is no “points system” for immigration in/to Australia, not that I know of anyway. There are various categories which have criteria such as certain skills etc that cannot be met locally. There is a “points system” for opening bank accounts however.
Regardless, Turncoat will sell Australia out at Paris. Just another disgusting show of Australian politics. And when the mining boom is over, Turncoat will be sweet with his all expenses paid gold plated pension fund.
Come gather ’round drones
Wherever you home
And admit that the taxes
Around you have groan’d
And accept it that soon
You’ll be skinned to the bone
If overtime to you
Is worth savin’
Then you better start objectin’
Or you’ll sink like a stone
For the climes they’re always changin’.
Come blogger and critics
Who analyse like wise men
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And speak up real soon
For the windmills in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s harmin’
For the losers now
Will be later to win
For the climes they’re always changin’.
Come senators, congressmen
Best heed our call
Don’t stand in the freeway
Don’t block up the coal
For he that gets hurt
Will be those you have tramelled
There’s a battle outside
And it’s worth wagin’
It’ll soon shake your windmills
And shatter your panels
For the climes they’re always changin’.
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And best criticize
What you can understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are being given commands
Your wise road is
Needily cravin’
Please stand up to the new one
If you can’t lend your hands
For the climes they’re always changin’.
The time it is dawn
For the lie that’s cast
The slick ones now
Will be gone fast
As their present now
Will later be past
Their new order is
Rapidly cavin’
And the first ones now
Will later be last
For the climes they’re always changin’
Turnbull is married to Agenda 21
Malcolm Turnbull colluded with former Australian Labor Prime Minister back in 2009 to try and implement an emissions trading scheme before the Copenhagen Climate Conference. As a consequence, Turnbull lost his leadership of the Liberal Party to Tony Abbott.
Conservatives embraced Tony Abbott and helped him become Prime Minister. The year, Lord Christopher Moncton warned Australia to guard against the overthrow of Abbott before the Paris conference by Turnbull.
On his first day in Parliament, Turnbull confirmed to the Opposition that his government would go to Paris with Abbott’s climate policy. Well, if Turnbull now goes to Paris with anything else, he will have lied to the Australian people. Conservatives in Australia do not trust Malcolm Turnbull. They know his politics is left wing and not conservative. They also know he is a global warming alarmists. What they don’t know is to what extent Turnbull, a multi millionaire, has invested in green technology etc. from which he can benefit from his own climate policy.