Guest essay by Eric Worrall
It didn’t take long for Australia’s new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to tear up his promise to keep Abbott’s climate policies. Now Turnbull appears to have taken the next step.
Australians voted overwhelmingly against carbon pricing in the last Federal Election, but for some strange reason carbon pricing now seems to be back on the agenda again – except this time, the major Australian Political parties may be planning to present a seamless non choice to Australian voters.
According to The Guardian;
Leaders from business, welfare, the conservation movement, the electricity sector and the union movement have moved to try to fill Australia’s climate policy vacuum by starting a new slogan-free debate to help political parties find workable greenhouse policies.
Mirroring the Turnbull government’s tax debate, in which all policy options are back “on the table”, the groups commissioned major consultancies to present on six climate policy options at a special closed-door summit this week. They intend to publish the results in a back-to-the-drawing-board policy “primer” to be released next year.
Indicating the extent to which six years of bitter climate policy war have forced wide-ranging discussion outside the political arena, advisers to environment minister Greg Hunt, resources minister Josh Frydenberg and Labor environment spokesman Mark Butler, as well as advisers to state governments, all attended the workshop as observers.
In Britain, this kind of shameless cross party policy rigging led to the rise of UKIP, which in the last UK election won over 3 million votes. In the UK, which has a “first past the post” election system, this wasn’t quite enough – it didn’t translate into a significant number of electoral victories, though UKIP came very close to reaching the critical threshold at which substantial wins become likely. But in Australia, which uses an alternate vote system, a voting block of this magnitude would likely have translated into a substantial number of electoral upsets.
Make no mistake, there is a potentially gigantic amount of money on the table. Quite apart from vast legitimate profits which can be made from slurping government green subsidies, or rent seeking off ordinary people’s electricity bills, carbon pricing also frequently opens new opportunities for criminals. In Denmark, in 2010, criminals defrauded the Denmark of billions of dollars, thanks to flaws in Denmark’s carbon pricing models, and a loophole in Denmark’s GST system.
Did I mention – by a coincidence, politicians may be planning to raise Australia’s GST tax rate.
In my opinion, Australian politicians from the major parties, may be becoming far too cosy with big green. A recent poll in Australia shows nothing has changed, Australians are still very skeptical of the need for carbon pricing. But politicians seem to have different ideas. If the cross party negotiations lead to a seamless cross party climate consensus, carbon pricing will become very difficult for voters to dislodge as a policy option.
This developing Aussie democratic deficit on climate policy almost happened in America – but someone who is well known to readers of WUWT, made it his personal mission to ensure Americans retained their freedom to choose between alternative climate policy options.
What can Australians do about this developing carbon pricing nightmare? One option which might work is to write to your MP. Its easy to assume that all letters from voters end up in the circular filing cabinet, but I assure you this is not the case – ultimately politicians know they have to win votes to keep their seat. If enough people write, there’s a very real chance politicians will be spooked into listening to their constituents, rather than their party leader.
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Further to my above post, I attach a reference to The Guardian that states: “Johnson was one of 3,881,129 people to put a cross on the ballot paper in support of Farage’s Ukip party, a sizeable show of support that managed to amass one solitary MP”
So UK got a shade under 3.9 million votes, with just 1 MP returned to Westminster.
See: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/09/margate-ukip-greens-electoral-reform-farage
and
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32633719
Which notes that “UKIP has won a 13% vote share in the election and has one MP, Douglas Carswell, who held his Clacton seat”
UKIP votes stopped the nightmare of Milliband but the alternative of Cameron was one where many had to hold their nose and vote Tory. I have never and will never vote for his party. In many areas one party is so entrenched voting is a bit pointless, however, in my area and many others where the Tories increased their majority the actual swing was to UKIP. Few have commented on this.
Gerry.
You are right about the swing. In my opinion there was a lot of vote churning.
Most commentators suggest that the Liberals switched votes to Conservative. but that is a ridiculous proposition. If Liberals were disappointed with their party not holding in check the Conservatives and giving into the hateful Conservatives on tuition fees etc, why would they vote Conservative?
What happened is this: The Liberal vote went to Labour. Much of the traditional Labour vote went to UKIP. And UKIP would have done very well but for the SNP/Milliband scare, which persuaded some people who previously voted UKIP and would have done so again, to vote Conservative.
So the Conservatives picked up quite a bit of the UKIP vote but only because of the SNP/Milliband scare.
Labour did extremely badly since it gained the Liberal vote, but lost a lot of traditional voters to UKIP. Those traditional voters are not likely to return with Corbyn at the helm since he is does not represent the aspirational blue collar worker. He has little to offer except to the client state (those on welfare), and hard line union activists.
We will have to see what happens at Oldham, but UKIP should be in with a chance of winning that by election since the voters that temporarily sided with the Conservatives to stop a SNP/Milliband coalition, are likely to now return to UKIP. This by election will test both UKIP and Labour.
In strictly political terms, claiming the “debate” is “settled” is unviable. One might as well claim the sun does not shine and the wind does not blow. The debate concerning how much warming we have seen and can expect is going on all around them, as they speak, both in the scientific literature. In the work of Anthony’s team (and I am proud to be his mudslogger), for that matter. Enough of the public thinks there is a debate, and many those who don’t can be convinced after hearing from both sides.
The way I see it, global warming is real and mostly anthropogenic. (Cue the “97%” theme song.) But it is simply not as much as projected, diverges severely from the IPCC/CMIP model projections, and has had net beneficial effects — so far. The historical data is flawed, and the adjustments are worse. Future warming projections do not match even the least favorable of the surface metrics.
It occurs to me that our team’s paper would be included with the papers (98% or whatever) that support the general thesis of global warming in general. And that is why those percentages represent a false dichotomy. Nearly all serious skeptics (Lindzen, McIntyre, Anthony, Spencer, Christy, Curry, etc., etc.) are lukewarmers and part of that good old 97%.
I think we can win the scientific argument, and when (and if) we do, the politicians will follow on as they always have done and will do, the beastly little horrors.
I wrote this email, which was prompted by Eric’s article, to my North Queensland Federal Liberal MP today .
Dear Warren
It was with dismay that I watched Mr Turnbull replace Mr Abbott and feel that this plan was carried out before Canning, so that he was in place for Paris where, I believe that, like Rudd, he may attend along with the other 50,000 delegates!
The “thanks for voting but we’ll take it from here” attitude of Turnbull et al will surely please the UN and the ABC but it has displeased many.
I have voted ALP all my life, up to and including Rudd One, but it was Copenhagen and the Global Warming nonsense, about which I now know a great deal, that changed me to a Liberal voter.
Now I find that Minister Hunt has stopped the investigation into BOM’s tampering with the temperature record and Minister Bishop has signed the UN’s “Sustainable Development”plan. This phrase, with its sinister implications in UN Agenda 21, sends shivers down my spine.
We must not sign this Paris agreement unless there is a get out clause or we’ll be on the road to a totalitarian world government, plus the West will be handing over USD100 billion a year to despots and dictators in the Third World as “compensation” for what we, in the developed world, have supposedly done to warm the planet by a trivial 0.8C since the end of the Little Ice Age.
If you look at the Holocene (the last 11,000 yrs) you can plainly see we are at the lower end of the temperature trend for that time scale and nothing at all unusual is happening with the climate. There has been zero global warming according to the Satellites for almost 20 years now, during which time over a third of man’s contribution to atmospheric CO2 has occurred.
Mr Turnbull is a wolf in sheep’s clothing I’m afraid and I’ve no doubt that we will be suffering an ETS next year thanks to Al Gore’s visit, helping Mr Palmer earlier this year in getting the legislation changed to allow for a “review” of an ETS.
“CO2 is the exhaust of Capitalism” according to Maurice Strong who started this fraud with the UN back in the early 80’s and that’s all you need to know to see where this is heading.
I’m hoping that there might be another party formed that can reflect common sense on this, and many other recent matters, so that I can vote for it.
Regards
Anyone who is interested in democracy MUST see this video. It is short and well worth a watch:
Beat me to it…many thanks! I hope too see him in Paris soon.
Canada the same way?
Suddenly the Goods and Services tax is seriously being discussed.
The nerve.
The proposal is a 50% hike.
Now that we have all in Australia been shown the ‘red light of hell’ in taxation, a regressive across the board tax which kills jobs and hits small business the housing industry and the poor, what do we get.
We are offered yet the other possibility,a ‘green light’, a tax to save the planet.
More disguised carbon taxes.
Now who could morally oppose such a tax?/sarc on for the US.
This is a tax which can never have a demonstrable declared positive outcome.
It cannot change the climate of the Earth.
It can destroy our competitiveness.
A first step is to stop spending borrowed money on other countries’ aspirations and desires.
Particularly where we are supposedly ‘saving the planet’.
In health support attempts to make hospital systems accountable financially for their medical and surgical mistakes.
That does not mean that people are not treated when they go back through emergency in the private system,it means the taxpayer and the insurance company does not pay.
It comes off the hospital bottom line.
Stop the idiocy where it is suggested smokers are hit more for private insurance.
It just means they will drop all insurance and end up in the excellent public system.
So taxpayers pay even more.
The Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme review is a good move.
Control prescription shopping.
Cap the exponential growth of hospital funding.
Same with school funding.
When the ‘school halls’ were built under PM Julia Gillard, the State School Systems spent a third more of our money on the same outcome in halls.
The rest went into ‘the builders’ retirement funds’.
Reduce expectations that the state can resolve all social ills with money.
The Coalition are playing with fire with a hiked GST.
Lip service to the Carbon Catastrophic Narrative replaced with new taxes that just raise more money is no joke when
it demonstrates a fundamental judgmental flaw.
Elevated anthropogenic CO2 has not raised the planet’s temperature.
Why act as if it has?
I tried posting this a few minutes ago but nothing happened,!
Thanks Eric, here’s the email you have prompted me to write to my Federal Liberal MP here in Cairns.
Dear Warren
It was with dismay that I watched Mr Turnbull replace Mr Abbott and feel that this plan was carried out before Canning so that he was in place for Paris where I believe that, like Rudd, he may attend along with the other 50,000 delegates!
The “thanks for voting but we’ll take it from here” attitude of Turnbull et al will surely please the UN and the ABC but it has displeased many here.
I have voted ALP all my life, up to and including Rudd One, but it was Copenhagen and the Global Warming nonsense, about which I now know a great deal, that changed me to Liberal voter.
Now I find that Minister Hunt has stopped the investigation into BOM’s tampering with the temperature record and Minister Bishop has signed the UN’s “Sustainable Development”plan. This phrase with it’s sinister implications in UN Agenda 21 sends shivers down my spine.
We must not sign this Paris agreement unless there is a get out clause or we’ll be on the road to a totalitarian world government plus the West will be handing over USD100 billion a year to despots and dictators in the Third World as “compensation” for what we in the developed world have supposedly done to warm the planet by a trivial 0.8C since the end of the Little Ice Age.
If you look at the Holocene (the last 11,000 yrs) you can plainly see we are at the lower end of the temperature trend for that time scale and nothing at all unusual is happening with the climate. There has been zero global warming according to the Satellites for almost 20 years now during which time over a third of man’s contribution to atmospheric CO2 has occurred.
Mr Turnbull is a wolf in sheep’s clothing I’m afraid and I’ve no doubt that we will be suffering an ETS next year thanks to Al Gore’s visit helping Mr Palmer earlier this year in getting the legislation changed to allow for a “review” of an ETS.
“CO2 is the exhaust of Capitalism” according to Maurice Strong who started this fraud with the UN back in the early 80’s and that’s all you need to know to see where this is heading.
I hope that there might be another party formed that can reflect common sense on this and many other recent matters so that I can vote for it.
Regards
Robin Willows
27 Yule Av Clifton Beach QLD 4879
“CO2 is the exhaust of Capitalism”
Well, that sounds about right to me. Took a lot of time and money to get it that way, too, money arguably well spent. When and where said exhaust is not CO2 it’s something worse.
Implicit question bein’ whether the benefits are worth the exhaust (etc.). I’m willing to argue that one!
I’ll believe it’s slogan-free if the following words are banned:
Children
Generations
Pariah
Future
Denier
Flat-earther
Obligation
Last chance
97%
The old last chance is dead. Long live the new last chance.
“It didn’t take long for Australia’s new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull to tear up his promise to keep Abbott’s climate policies. Now Turnbull appears to have taken the next step.”
The problem for Turnbull is that he leads a coalition that is dependant on the support of the Nationals to hold Gov’t. The Nationals will not accept any change in the coalitions position on climate change. If he does he loses Gov’t. The Nationals have hte smarts.
Shouls have read. The Nationals have the smarts.
Oh dear. Done it again.
REPLY – I peel your fain. ~ Evan
Turnbull NO binding agreement in the for the forthcoming gabfest in Paris. If youdo I will never vote liberal again.
Just you wait. Julie Bishop when she was swanning around taking bows in New York recently already committed us to signing what ever was going. There was a joint press release with the Department of Defence (of all things) stating that they would “work towards” a binding agreement.
Traitors, all.
that BIT**, backstabbing powerhungry POS!
hear were in the kyoto powertrip mob now
so expect that crap to be renewed and made more powerful too
🙁
best we can do is boost the Nationals n independents tally
ONLY those who wont throw the votes to turdball n co
unless theyre removed NO lib vote
labors footshot anyway and greentards are a farce
* UKIP garnered over four million votes.
3.9 million votes
SBS, the Australian national TV carrier, just declared at the end of the news that rather than an increase in the GST Australians need a Carbon Tax.
So now we know that the Left is on message and using taxpayer resources to push their line.
A great way to wedge Turnbull and split the Coalition.
It presents a bipolar view of taxation where what they suggest is the only answer.
Despite its uselessness.
Lets see if they give a ‘balanced’ anti carbon tax view on the next ‘news’.
If they don’t will Turnbull act?
Lewis,
SBS is not the National TV carrier in Australia! It is government funded with some advertising and has a general multicultural theme.
Naturally conservative opinion is rarely expressed in its current affairs division.
The ABC is The National Government Funded Broadcaster. And not even the well known bias of The ABC would allow a news reader to declare that we need a Carbon Tax during the news. A general commentator on a current affairs show might get away with it as the ABC is also a conservative free zone buy it does not happen on The News.
If you are able to give more specific information I will be happy to follow up and contact my Local Member and let them know in no uncertain terms that such editorialising is way out of line in the News but I very much doubt that this occurred in a NEWS program.
There is now an entry via my search engine which refers to SBS News:
‘Carbon Tax better than GST Hike. Greens.’
It is referenced to the MP Greens Goose, Adam Bandt, and comes under the heading of Mandy Rice Davies ‘he would say that wouldn’t he.”
So it was a green parliamentary saying this not the News service. Our media is luvvy centric but that is a step too much even for the bias that exists.
“In my opinion, Australian politicians from the major parties, may be becoming far too cosy with big green.”
“If enough people write, there’s a very real chance politicians will be spooked into listening to their constituents, rather than their party leader.”
I can’t decide whether or not your naivety is more depressing than your appalling punctuation.
If a politician receives hundreds of letters from outraged constituents saying “I voted for you last time, but I’m really upset because of x”, they take notice. They have to, if they want to keep their job.
They don’t care about keeping the job. The last elected Liberal premier of Victoria walked out halfway through his term, for some mysterious reason.
Time to vote Liberal Democrats
Look up David Leyonhjelm. A man with a head on his shoulders and the only person in the Australian Parlaiment wanting less spending and the only one fighting wind turbines
yeah , hes a breath of fresh air
if only he didnt think GMO was ok he’d be perfect
Lyin’hole is a Trojan Horse. He makes right wing / libertarian noises to draw right wing votes. But in contested votes he tends to abstain to give Labor the numbers, and preferences the left in Canning by election. He even formed a voting bloc with Lambie.
I trust him as far as I can throw him and the horse he rode in on.
Liberal Dems should team up with the ALA. Together, they would represent an electoral force, one which just might compell the Nationals to abandon their sinking ship.
This is an extract from the Lord Monckton talk of September/October 2014:
“….
David King was asked whether all the nations of the world were now, in principle, ready to sign their people’s rights away in such a treaty. Yes, but there are two standouts. One is Canada. But don’t worry about Canada. They’ve got an election in the Spring of 2015 and we and the UN will make sure the present government is removed. He was quite blunt about it.
….
The other hold out is Australia. And Australia we can’t do anything about because Tony Abbott is in office until after the December 2015 conference. So that means you all have to guard Tony Abbott’s back. Because the Turnbull faction, in conjunction with the UN, will be doing their absolute level best to remove your elected Prime Minister from office before the end of his term and , in particular, before the end of 2015, so that they can get 100% wall-to-wall Marxist agreement. They do not want any stand-outs. And the most likely stand-out at the moment is Australia. So look after him.”
See: the video that I linked above (richard verney November 8, 2015 at 12:00 am)
an Australian has just been appointed co-chair of the Green Climate Fund.
former Labor PM, Kevin Rudd, has been appointed chair of the global sanitation and water partnership Sanitation and Water for All (SWA), which is part of the whole 2030 Sustainable Development Agenda. SWA partners with more than 90 governments, organisations and development bodies, including the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) and the United Nations Development Program. Ultimately, Rudd wants the job of UN Secretary-General.
as for Turnbull, the CAGW-infested Australian MSM is in love with him & loves the idea of trading carbon dioxide emissions, and hopes we will all turn into Turnbull clones!
8 Nov: SMH Editorial: Malcolm Turnbull’s national makeover
And for the most part Australia is looking the better for it.
The Australia of today is becoming unrecognisable from the one eight weeks ago…
It’s been a national makeover of sorts – and Australia is looking all the better for it, bar ongoing concerns over asylum seeker policy, the need for more action on health and the potential for all this new look to turn out as fake…
Even on issues Mr Turnbull promised conservatives would not change – Direct Action on climate change and the timeline for a same-sex marriage plebiscite – he is reshaping the narrative…
Rather than seeing Direct Action as the end of the government’s policy to tackle global warming, he is suggesting it can be morphed as required into something more like an emissions trading scheme.
True, he has held back from major changes to other environmental policies, fearing a backbench backlash…
At month’s end he will travel to the Paris climate summit where he will seek to emerge with a deal on global warming to avenge the failure in 2009 which forced then prime minister Kevin Rudd to dump his initial emissions trading scheme plans and which, indirectly, cost Mr Turnbull his first shot at the prime ministership.
Now he’s been given – or taken – a second chance at the top job, he is doing everything possible to re-form the nation in his image…
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/malcolm-turnbulls-national-makeover-20151105-gks6g4.html
What’s needed is for someone to make a video like Al Gore’s except this time using actual science to show the devastating effects of the coming ” Little Ice Age “…They can call it ” The Inconvenient REALITY ” !!…R.I.P. Michael Crichton….
[snip -over the top – mod]
This just shows up how democracy doesn’t exist. The word is a combination of the Greek words for power and people. While the people may turn out to vote we can see how there is very little power. Accountability is the deficit and to have a genuine democracy there has to be a right of recall. It is easy for the politicians to give us sugarcoated lies at election time and then do something different in the knowledge that they are safe for a few years. However, if there was a system to have them face the electorate again if they break their promises then they would be less inclined to tell lies – old habits die hard after all. The method needs some thought but I would like to see the person on the spot subjected to a vote which if they fail prevents them from standing again in the new election.
David is a a Senator and while The Senate passes bills from The House of Reps it is the minor player in the Australian Parliament. It can and does act like a child throwing tantrums and block bills but it still remains the lesser of the Main bodies. People can vote for anyone they like but remember that a vote for a minor party only aids lLbor and Green and you will end up with every sort of Climate Nonsense and Taxation possible.
BTW. We have plenty of government funded delusional current affair sites in Australia via The Drum and The Conversation and the privately owned The Guardian.and Fairfax Press. So if I am Looking for Delusional and Whacko theories I do not have far to look.
Usually WUWT gives me sound information yet on this Harper and Abbott issue the garage of conspiracy gets a foothold.
Now Harper was in office for 9 and a half years so it took ‘The Man” quite a long time to wake up that a climate sceptic had office and then get rid of him. 9 and a half years!
As for Mr Abbott you simply have a look at the nervous nellies of the Liberal Party that could not stand the heat from the polls. We do not need the people in the shadows to go meddling in our affairs. Australians are very capable but we can stuff up a situation as well as anyone without outside help.
Now at luvvy sites it is Rupert and The Koch Boys plus Big Oil and Big Coal manipulating us robots so at least the luvvies have identified the master criminals so could someone just supply me with a few names of individuals and organisations that are pulling all the strings. The UN and Big Green do not count as everybody knows what a biased joke are those organisations. Even the everyday person so stop insulting their intelligence with this conspiracy crap.
Or do WUWT readers believe that the general public and voters are just dumbo or bogan which is exactly the position of a significant number of Guardian, Fairfax, Drum and Conversation posters.
You can follow developments on Jo Nova’s site.
http://joannenova.com.au/
We in Canada are about to get this carp too. 350.org is organizing demonstrations in Ottawa this weekend. Most people in Canada are getting quite pissed off with Americans, Saudis and Russians telling us what to do.
I think UKIP could be round up rather than down to 3 million.
UKIP. 3,881,099 votes = 1 MP.
SNP. 1,454,436 votes = 56 MPs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results
So-called “climate change” is the new face of imperialism , I am afraid.
And the targets of this new imperialism are our historic allies, Canada, Australia, Western Europe, in addition to the traditional third world.
The U.S. ballot initiative is what real democracy looks like:
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The ballot initiative is a means by which a petition signed by a certain minimum number of registered voters can bring about a public vote on a proposed statute or constitutional amendment. Ballot initiatives are also called, depending on the state, “popular initiative,” “voter initiative,” “citizen initiative” or just “initiative.”
Twenty-four states allow ballot initiatives, which are a form of direct democracy.
http://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_initiative
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Direct democracy is when the people who have to live under the rules get to vote for the rules.
So-called “representative democracy” is when you get to vote for a ruler who makes the rules, invariably without regard for the wishes of the people. At best our Orwellian “representatives” try to manufacture consent for their agenda with propaganda and rhetoric. When they fail to establish consent, they just go ahead with the plan against the wishes of the people. Happens all the time in Australia.
Our public utilities were sold to private corporations despite public opposition. We now have the 2nd most expensive power supply charges on the planet.
The majority of Austrlians were against participating in the war against Iraqis, but the ruling party had already “taken” the decision in advance. John Howard read the same pro-war script to the Australian parliament that Steven Harper read in the Canadian parliament.
Who wrote the script – We the people?
Australians trying to buy a home now have to compete against foreign property investors inflating their portfolios. The Chinese aren’t permitted to own more than two homes in China (fair and reasonable policy, I reckon), but they can buy as many homes as they want in Australia. Chinese investors currently own around half of my city (Melbourne).
Some of the real estate agents in Melbourne only advertise in Chinese.
Chinese investors, with some help from out taxes, are allowed to dig up coal in our state and sell it back to us:
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/chinese-company-may-sell-latrobe-valley-brown-coal-briquettes-locally-20140902-10b2un.html
When did we vote for the insane policies that led to this situation?
Why do we call our Aussie system a “democracy” when it is really dictatorship in drag?
Khwarizme.
Go to the Guardian and join the Great big delusional ratbaggery over there!
‘Chinese investors currently own around half of my city (Melbourne)’.
Well it is my city too champ and I will bet you one million billion trillion gazillion squillion that that is the most ridiculous figure ever used on his site.
In fact it makes Klymit Scyence data look well researched and reasonable.
Withdraw this gobsmackingly incorrect stat now and actually provide some evidence in future posts.
For example as at June 2014 our city has 4.40 million people via Wiki. At 3 people per household, roughly, that gives us about 1.46 million dwellings and you reckon that Chinese own a half of that number. If you say 4 per household it is 1.1M dwellings or some 550,000 Chinese owned dwellings.
Chinese buyers are in the above medium and bigger property market area and do not compete with the younger first home buyer. For every buyer there has to be a seller and are you suggesting that Melburnians do not have the right to sell to whoever makes the best bid? I know something of the sort goes on in some countries but I would have thought that to be against the notion that prevails here
regarding Liberty and government intrusion.
Post your Homework not your Bias or Delusion.
Withdraw this gobsmackingly incorrect stat now and actually provide some evidence in future posts.
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I don’t follow orders, Rob.
I’m not your slave.
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Selling the Australian property dream to the Chinese investor market> …
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-12/selling-the-australian-property-dream-to-china/6841810
Aussie homebuyers crunched by Chinese investors
The New Daily
Oct 5, 2015
Chinese investor DEMOLISHES historic $20 million Melbourne …
DailyMail_UK
Oct 21, 2015 … But residents neighbouring the 16 St Georges Road property awoke on … Outrage after Chinese investor knocks down historic mansion …
Zero deposit loans for Chinese investors to spur Australian property market
Australian Financial Review – (Murdoch)
Oct 26, 2015
by Angus Grigg
One of China’s biggest financial institutions is offering zero-deposit home loans for off-the-plan apartments in Melbourne and the Gold Coast….
We ain’t seen nothing yet’: Chinese foreign investment in Australian property tipped to surge
SMH, July 21, 2015
Bank offer no-deposit home loans to Chinese investors to buy Australian property
News.com.au
Oct 28, 2015
Selling the Australian property dream to the Chinese investor market
ABC, Oct 17, 2015
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Why didn’t you address my questions regarding the absence of democracy in our bankrupt nation?
Is it because you are happy with the dictatorship?
An un-elected, multi millionaire, internationalist banker for PM? Not a problem. Who best to understand the common people?
He wasn’t elected by the public. He was elected by the ABC.
Instead of wasting trillions of dollars trying to stop climate change ( impossible ), the money would be better spent on ADJUSTING to climate change ( easy )…Mr. Mann should like this idea…he good at ADJUSTING things !!
Found an interesting quote today:
“It is absolutely obvious that in the future sources of energy will be water, wind, and tides.”
— A. Hitler, August 2, 1941, speaking at the “inner circle” supper in Wolfschanze.
There is only one instance of the quote online…your comment here on this thread.
Did you make it up?
This is an exact quote from the “Conversations at Hitler’s Table in his Headquarters” (“Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier”) — the famous compendium published in West Germany by Henry Picker, Hitler’s stenographer, in 1951, 1963, and 1976. I am reading it in Russian translation (Progress Publishing House, 1993).
Not everything that is true can be found on Internet, while most of what can be found on Internet, unfortunately, is far from being true.
Tischgespräche im Führerhauptquartier 1941-1942
Deutscher Taschenbuch-Verlag, 1968 – Germany – 285 pages
P.S.
I don’t know if any English translation of this compendium exists. I translated exactly a sentence from the Russian 1993 edition (translation from German by I. V. Rozanov). Authenticity of these documents has been confirmed by multiple high-ranking witnesses. Picker regularly submitted his stenographic reports to his boss, Martin Borman, who used them to “anticipate” Fuehrer’s preferences while submitting his policy proposals.