UN demands Australia stop mining coal

anthracite coalGuest essay by Eric Worrall

UN climate chief Christiana Figueres has stated that Australia must stop mining coal.

According to the Sydney Morning Herald;

Speaking at a conference in Melbourne on Wednesday, Christiana Figueres drew a parallel between Australia and the oil kingdom [Saudi Arabia] as countries that would need to diversify their economies as the world grapples with global warming.

Ms Figueres said ultimately Australia would have to move away from coal for environmental reasons and changes in global economic patterns. She said nobody was saying this would have to happen overnight, but the transition should be orderly, gradual and progressive.

‘”The science is very clear, there is no space for any new coal,” she said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-will-have-to-move-away-from-coal-un-climate-head-says-20150506-ggvfvz.html

Ms Figures doesn’t have any specific advice about how Australia should fill the gigantic hole in her finances, which decommissioning the coal mining industry would create. Perhaps Ms Figures feels her job is simply to give us directives, to tell us what must be. The responsibility, the details of how her directives will be implemented, is someone elses problem.

“You represent a huge potential to lead the world into a very healthy economic diversification path. You haven’t figured out how to do that yet but that, my friends, is your homework.”

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May 7, 2015 7:39 am

Perhaps she thinks they can transfer their industry into the patisserie business?

thojak
Reply to  M Courtney
May 7, 2015 7:45 am

Does she really think [at all] ???

Alan the Brit
Reply to  thojak
May 7, 2015 8:47 am

Not really, but she should go acting, I have never seen any actress past or present who could turn on the tears (crocodile?) with such rapidity on demand! Bloomin marvelous, true Oscar material!

Reply to  thojak
May 7, 2015 9:50 am

Probably doesn’t think at all.
Saudi Arabia has two commodities, oil and sand.
What will the Saudis do?

Bryan A
Reply to  thojak
May 7, 2015 12:21 pm

hourglasses are so passé

Matt
Reply to  thojak
May 7, 2015 12:43 pm
Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  thojak
May 7, 2015 1:36 pm

She’s a member of the international wealthy elite who didn’t even need to work for the money, not even get elected. She is a member of a modern transnational and mostly invisible aristocracy. They hang around at transnational organizations like the WHO, IMF, World Bank, UN, EU, and a myriad other things that should be target by peasants with pitchforks and tumbrels. (Did I get UNESCO in there?)

george e. smith
Reply to  thojak
May 7, 2015 10:41 pm

The UN is a pox on the planet; and the parasites that infest that organization, need to look for some honest work, for a change.

george e. smith
Reply to  thojak
May 8, 2015 9:41 pm

There’s a big lake near Geneva; like right down town.
Senora (ita) Figueres, can just go and jump in it. But be careful of the white swans.

Reply to  M Courtney
May 7, 2015 12:02 pm

Madam Figures suffers from low oxygen uptake to the brain. Who can blame her? with 400PPM !!!!! of CO2, it is very very hard to get enough air at the top…. I think that the warming is not what will kill us all but Oxygen deprivation!

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  Mareeba Property Management
May 7, 2015 4:05 pm

Robert
Yes, maybe we should add the IOCC to this list! They would be hard to beat for corruption and lack of accountability!
Cheers,
Alastair

Drop Bear
Reply to  Mareeba Property Management
May 7, 2015 6:49 pm

I think oxygen thief is a more apt description

Quinn the Eskimo
May 7, 2015 7:47 am

Or else!
Or else what?
Or we will be very angry and we will write you a letter telling you how angry we are.

Scott
May 7, 2015 7:47 am

Hopefully the Aussies will tell Ms. Figueres, “So long and thanks for all the fish” (What the dolphins said in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy) they were never mentioned again as Ms. Figures should take note……

Col
Reply to  Scott
May 10, 2015 12:28 am

Scott, I think we can figure out something to say that has the same general idea.

Latitude
May 7, 2015 7:47 am

…that’s going to really piss China off

Bill H
Reply to  Latitude
May 7, 2015 9:15 am

They have to figure out how to conquer China and control it too…/sarc (you want a war with China, do this!)
For the record, She is an idiot communist. The stupidity and arrogance of her demand is stunning.

Bill H
Reply to  Bill H
May 7, 2015 9:17 am

should have written; You want to start a war with China, do this!

JimS
May 7, 2015 7:47 am

Why doesn’t the UN pick on Indonesia which exports more coal, on a percentage basis, than does Australia?
And since Australia exports most of its coal to emerging nations in East Asia, where will those nations turn to, to acquire the cheap energy they need if Australia stops the exporting of its coal?

Bill H
Reply to  JimS
May 7, 2015 9:18 am

The words are “skeptical Government which has seen through the deception”. That is why they were singled out.

TedM
Reply to  Bill H
May 7, 2015 2:43 pm

I think you are right on the money.

Bernie Goetz
Reply to  JimS
May 7, 2015 2:25 pm

They think expensive energy everywhere is a key to saving the planet and population in the third world should be reduced instead of expanding.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  JimS
May 7, 2015 6:59 pm

Indonesia and Mongolia have lots of coal. Personally I don’t see why it should be cheap as it is a depleting resource. If I advised either of them they should turn it into liquid fuels before allowing it across the border.

george e. smith
Reply to  JimS
May 7, 2015 10:37 pm

Because Indonesia is run by the mohammadams, and it doesn’t say in the Koran, not to use coal.

ironicman
Reply to  JimS
May 7, 2015 11:51 pm

‘Why doesn’t the UN pick on Indonesia …’
Ah that’s the rub, its a third world country, only first worlders are required to put on sack cloth.

May 7, 2015 7:47 am

Figueres should stick to Mannscaping her own mapatasi.

Paul
Reply to  Max Photon
May 7, 2015 8:07 am

Max, had to look all of that up. LOL, bad boy!

Editor
Reply to  Max Photon
May 7, 2015 8:25 am

🙂 Good one!

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Max Photon
May 7, 2015 8:55 am

Time for a Rorschach test!
Look inside your head
🙂

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
May 7, 2015 9:25 am

Horshack

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
May 8, 2015 11:29 am

I’m 99% sickness based on my second test. Way to go. 😀

Steve C
May 7, 2015 7:50 am

Who will rid us of these arrogant, puffed-up technocrat dictators? Figures, when we have voted you into a position of power, you will have the right to advise us. Until then, STFU.

RH
May 7, 2015 7:52 am

If the latest UAH LT anomaly map is any indication, they’ll need more coal, not less.comment image

Tim
May 7, 2015 7:59 am

Gee, I don’t even remember voting for her.

zemlik
May 7, 2015 8:06 am

fossilized mentality

Man Bearpig
May 7, 2015 8:07 am

Which UN resolution does that come under ? Who voted on it? and when ?

Bruce Cobb
May 7, 2015 8:21 am

The science is very clear, ….

The tipoff lie, along with such classics such as “the debate is over” and “97% of climate scientists agree” that an even bigger lie is coming.

Greg Woods
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
May 7, 2015 9:23 am

+10

Crabby.
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
May 8, 2015 8:39 am

Here, here Bruce, we call them Climate Dick-heads over here in Aus.

Rob Dawg
May 7, 2015 8:23 am

Hey sweetie. Instead of addressing production why not show up in China and dictate to the Central Committee that they must reduce coal consumption. Then the Aussie exports will decline on their own. Good luck with that.

Charles Woringham
Reply to  Rob Dawg
May 8, 2015 1:41 am

China’s consumption fell nearly 3% last year, and their government is actively shifting to renewables and closing coal mines.

Hugh
Reply to  Charles Woringham
May 8, 2015 7:11 am

China imports coal; it does not close mines because it can, but because some mines are exhausted beyond economically feasible usability.
What comes to renewables, yes, their are building stuff like Three Gorges Dam. Greenpeace was not completely satisfied. They will be even less satisfied when they finally learn the environmental consequences of PV and windpower.

emsnews
May 7, 2015 8:26 am

Wow. Africa is cooling down fast.

inMAGICn
Reply to  emsnews
May 7, 2015 11:35 am

Not in Ouagadougou. Well into the 100s F or 40C.

Resourceguy
May 7, 2015 8:28 am

…and jail terms for coal miners and mine union leaders, because they said so.

David Wells
May 7, 2015 8:29 am

A few weeks ago a journalist in the UK noted that if Natalie Bennett had few brain cells she would need watering twice a day think the same logic applies to Figueres. If I remember correctly coal is only 2nd best to iron ore for Australia and if they suffered declines in either or both then theoretically Australia would go bust in the same way that Russia would without coal iron ore oil and gas.
Bet that Figueres doesn’t wander over to Moscow and confront Mr Putin with the same rhetoric, in reality I wish that she would and hopefully would suffer the same consequences as the Pussy riot, a million years hard labour with no remission for being so damn stupid.
If the BP review is correct we only have 50 years left of coal oil and gas so she might live long enough to see her dreams come true.
I have always thought that AGW is all about trying to make sure that there is just enough fossil fuel and beef left to ensure the elite have enough to sate their appetite whilst leaving us to feed on bugs. In the same way that Rolls Royce has seen a turn down in the Chinese market mainly because it is now thought unseemly for the party elite to be chauffeured about in stretched RR Phantom’s at $1 million a piece.
Do these people never look at the numbers and have they no conscience whatsoever, why is there no sanction on their corruption?

Reply to  David Wells
May 7, 2015 12:17 pm

one thing about those Chinese is when a bureaucrat steps across the line too far or too many times they by golly get RE-EDUCATED. It has its excesses but its hard not to admire the brutal efficiency of it.

DD More
Reply to  David Wells
May 7, 2015 12:47 pm

”The science is very clear, there is no space for any new coal,” she said.
But is not all Aussie coal kinda old. Or is that why Indonesia, China and Russia get a pass, because they have really old coal.

Reply to  David Wells
May 8, 2015 8:49 am

Bravo David, you’ve just touched on a theme I haven’t considered. Maybe she wants all the Communist countries to still be in that filthy business so when the West goes Bankrupt (led by the Greek, EU and US), she can just go over there and live. They are all Communist Frontmen and Women!! Unelected Scum-Sucking, bottom-dwelling, mongrel Dogs!!

Ernest Bush
Reply to  David Wells
May 9, 2015 9:37 am

No, they do not have consciences. There is only arrogance.

Paul Westhaver
May 7, 2015 8:29 am

Think back when the “League of Nations” and the UN was being conjured up in the brains of the socialist nannies. Remember all the Rah Rah Rah about world peace and rainbows and butterflies?
I remember the shameless indoctrination videos narrated by Africans with British-English accents.
The nostalgia is making me misty.
Wow, what a bunch of foul cr@p that all was.
Now I am all growed up, I don’t listen to the UN, people who assume authority from the UN on any subject, or people quote the UN in policy making. ( I just wrote off 1 billion socialists in one sentence)
Do you think that when the Radical islamists start dropping Iran-Made nukes on everyone, that thereafter, there will be a UN? Ha Ha ha… no!

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
May 7, 2015 8:36 am

The thing is, you either have a UN with teeth, or not have one at all. In Bosnia, the UN was a joke; remember ‘UNsafe areas’? So you either have a UN that has the authority of all other nations to impose its will very strongly, or you don’t have any such organisation at all. I’m with the latter.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
May 7, 2015 8:49 am

The Ghost….
It is because the litany of failures of the UN wrt wars, it’s primary purpose, and the downright weird involvement in human social engineering that push me to the latter also. The league of nations enabled the rise of Germany prior to WWII. We now have the rise of a nuclear Iran. ( Iran means Ayrian BTW)

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
May 7, 2015 10:19 am

If America stopped all funding for the UN it, the UN, would cease to exist in short order. I would like to see a candidate make that pledge in 2016.

MarkW
Reply to  The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
May 7, 2015 10:42 am

The only thing worse than the current UN, would be a UN with teeth.

Reply to  The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
May 7, 2015 12:26 pm

The UN has teeth…they are called the United States Military. Shame but its so even on humanitarian relief how often have the carriers been deployed to desalinize water or the C5s sent to carry relief emblazoned with the UN crest?

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
May 7, 2015 7:37 pm

Paul W
The rise of Germany after WW I was directly attributable to the outrageous terms for reparations imposed on it. Had that not happened the Catholic Workers Party would have continued to be the most powerful political organisation in the country and they would never have allowed Hitler to come to power. It was only the dismantling of that party that allowed the Nazis to rise.
The League of Nations failed because the USA wouldn’t join it. The UN only attempted half what the League did. It needs a complete reform and democratisation. Until then we suffer. There are no more island nations. Until we admit we are sharing the same boat we will have huge problems.
None of these truths validates CAGW, of course. It is just another attempt, pretty well coordinated, to convince the public they have to be ‘worried’ about something big in order to overcome the natural tendency to be suspicious of their traditional enemies.
It is not going to work. They can’t trick the nations into unity. Unity has to be genuine. There is nothing wrong with unity. There is nothing wrong with preventing war and staying the hand of an oppressor. Lying blatantly to generate ‘unified action’ will never work as motivation because ever a few people revealing the truth of the matter is enough to undo the lies. A lot of that happens right here.
A surprising number of people still believe that a big lie told well enough can still accomplish what was done to create the Spanish American War, which was totally bogus, and the madness of both sides in WW II. The internet is truly liberating in many senses of the word.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
May 7, 2015 12:42 pm

Off topic , but in reply : one of the first and arguably most destructive acts of the UN , encouraged by Truman , was to impose a supremacist theocracy on the Mid East in the vacuum caused by the bankruptcy of the British Empire by WW2 . The echos of that act , anything but “conservative” , are seen in the continued extremist destruction and slaughter on all sides in the region even a lifetime later .

John
May 7, 2015 8:33 am

I love the idea of Saudi Arabia diversifying its economy. It’s a welfare state based on the sale of oil. They have no food, no cropland, no water, no manufacturing, no raw materials, and an unskilled/untrained/uneducated workforce. What else are they going to do?

Reply to  John
May 7, 2015 8:45 am

They have Saudi Arabia Basic Industries (SABIC).

Greg Woods
Reply to  Retired Engineer Jim
May 7, 2015 9:26 am

Except for some ‘executive’ positions, probably run top to bottom by expats.

Robert of Ottawa
Reply to  John
May 7, 2015 1:48 pm

Wage war?

ralfellis
Reply to  John
May 7, 2015 2:34 pm

Hopefully return to the shifting sands from whence they came. And the sooner the better. Saudi Arabia is a leech on the back of humanity.

Reply to  ralfellis
May 7, 2015 8:50 pm

And the U.S. is a predator on the lives of humanity.

Langenbahn
Reply to  ralfellis
May 8, 2015 8:28 am

Indeed. The GWOT is really the Saudi Arabian Civil War outsourced to other countries via Saudi Oil money. After 9-11 we shouldn’t have tried to hold Iraq together. (Bush gave it the old college try, but it was doomed from the start.) We should have gone to war with the Sauds, given the Holy Sites to the Hashemites, the oil fields to the gulf emirs, and let the desert take the rest. In lieu of that, I’ll take bottling up the GWOT back to within the borders of Saudi Arabia and a free bowl of popcorn to watch the proceedings.

David Wells
May 7, 2015 8:35 am

If Figueres is so concerned about Co2 why doesn’t she just give Tony Abbott a call instead of burning thousands of gallons of finite fossil fuel to spread her hyperbolic drivel. I am prepared to believe that Figueres really doesn’t comprehend that private jets run on fossil fuel, my Wife couldn’t understand why the handle bars on the lawnmower were bent and broken simply because she shut the garage door on them.
Twenty years later it still doesn’t register.

GeeJam
May 7, 2015 8:36 am

And stop (right this minute) brewing that wonderfully yeasty Coopers Ale, and stop fermenting gorgeously quaffable Sauvignon Blancs . . . . and exporting them 10,500 miles from Melbourne to the UK so that us Brits can really enjoy them. And stop manufacturing powerfully tangy Cheese Twisties which are to die for. Oh, and stop letting off CO2 fire extinguishers to put out those bushfires. And . . . .
Sod the coal.

David Wells
May 7, 2015 8:39 am

Next time Nepal or Indonesia suffer from a volcanic eruption tsunami, cyclone or an earthquake we should phone Figueres and say that we would like to help but a fully loaded C17 burns so much kerosene we are concerned that saving millions of lives will destroy the planet, what do you think?

Reply to  David Wells
May 7, 2015 9:17 am

I think Figueres would say:
(In private) “Let ’em die! If you save them this time, they’ll breed more little brown consumers.”
(In public.) “Think of the children.”

Tim
May 7, 2015 8:48 am

Sovereignty: – a country’s independent authority and the right to govern itself.
Democracy: – a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting.
They used to care, but, things have changed.

May 7, 2015 8:50 am

What if the Aussies don’t? Last time I checked, the UN doesn’t have any real power to back up its edicts– they depend on member nations to supply the actual power to make anything happen. Somehow I don’t expect the nations that actually have power to use their power to make Australia stop mining coal— especially when some of those nations are dependent on Australian coal.

ferd berple
Reply to  mjmsprt40
May 7, 2015 10:07 am

The US has declared Climate Change the number 1 threat to the nation. How long before US drones start eliminating that threat globally?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  ferd berple
May 7, 2015 8:13 pm

The good news for the Ausies is that Obama will do the same thing about climate that he has done about everything else.

David Wells
May 7, 2015 8:53 am

Just looked at the numbers Australias exports of resources including iron ore and coal are targeted to reach $284 billion by 2018/19 that is a serious amount of hard cash that Australia without any significant manufacturing industry has not a hope in hell of replacing or transforming its economy. But I do have a solution Australia should increase tourism and buy 50 airbus 380’s like Emirates and then they could hire Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger to encourage people to fly half way around the world to Australia instead of California since his home state is running out of water which shouldn’t really surprise anyone because that is what usually happens when you live in a desert. Again I return to the Natalie Bennett syndrome if these people had fewer brain cells they would need watering twice a day. This problem will never be resolved because the meek have already inherited the earth, for meek read thick.

Tom in Florida
May 7, 2015 8:57 am

” but the transition should be orderly, gradual and progressive.”
There is that nasty word “progressive”. Every time it is used it ends up being regressive for those to whom it was addressed.

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