Roger Pielke, Jr. Being Investigated by Representative Grijalva for Presenting Inconvenient Data

Guest Post by Bob Tisdale

Roger Pielke, Jr. is not a skeptic of human-induced global warming, as we all know.  Pielke Jr. is being investigated, however, for the “crime” of presenting data that disagree with alarmists who make bogus claims about weather and weather-related losses.

See Roger’s post I am under “Investigation”, in which he discusses the investigation by US Representative Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ), the ranking member of the House of Representatives Committee on Environment and Natural Resources.  Pielke, Jr.’s “crime”:

Prof. Roger Pielke, Jr., at CU’s Center for Science and Technology Policy Research has testified numerous times before the U.S. Congress on climate change and its economic impacts. His 2013 Senate testimony featured the claim, often repeated, that it is “incorrect to associate the increasing costs of disasters with the emission of greenhouse gases.”

Roger notes in his post:

The letter goes on to note that John Holdren, President Obama’s science advisor, “has highlighted what he believes were serious misstatements by Prof. Pielke.” (For background on this see here and here.) My 2013 testimony to the Senate is here and House is here in pdf (Q&A following hearing here and here). The testimony was the basis for my recent book on Disasters & Climate Change.

Remarkably, Pielke, Jr.’s 2013 Senate testimony (here) is basically a data presentation which shows:

  1. Globally, weather-related losses have not increased since 1990 as a proportion of GDP (they have actually decreased by about 25%).
  2. Insured catastrophe losses have not increased as a proportion of GDP since 1960.
  3. Hurricanes have not increased in the US in frequency, intensity or normalized damage since at least 1900.
  4. There are no significant trends (up or down) in global tropical cyclone landfalls since 1970 (when data allows for a comprehensive perspective), or in the overall number of tropical cyclones.
  5. Floods have not increased in the US in frequency or intensity since at least 1950.
  6. Flood losses as a percentage of US GDP have dropped by about 75% since 1940.
  7. Tornadoes have not increased in frequency, intensity or normalized damage since 1950, and there is some evidence to suggest that they have actually declined.
  8. Drought has “for the most part, become shorter, less frequent, and cover a smaller portion of the U. S. over the last century.”

Again, Roger presented graphs of data that support his statements.

Yet, somehow, presenting data that contradict alarmist hype is worthy of an investigation by an elected US representative—an investigation that has so far been a waste of Roger’s time, the time of the President of the University of Colorado Boulder, and, of course, the time of US Representative Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ).

Roger notes how this has also impacted his research and may impact others:

The incessant attacks and smears are effective, no doubt, I have already shifted all of my academic work away from climate issues. I am simply not initiating any new research or papers on the topic and I have ring-fenced my slowly diminishing blogging on the subject. I am a full professor with tenure, so no one need worry about me — I’ll be just fine as there are plenty of interesting, research-able policy issues to occupy my time. But I can’t imagine the message being sent to younger scientists. Actually, I can: “when people are producing work in line with the scientific consensus there’s no reason to go on a witch hunt.”

As Andrew Montford notes in his post Why you can’t trust climatology at BishopHill:

Roger has always struck me as one of the most robust participants in the climate debate. When someone as thick-skinned as he is is forced out then it really does tell you something about the trustworthiness of what climatologists and the IPCC tell us.

The word is “nugatory”, I think.

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john s
February 25, 2015 9:33 am

It doesn’t matter who or what Grivalja is. The fact remains that he and his ilk have succeeded in driving a scientist from the debate. What a sad state the US is in when the government can suppress dissent in such a manner.

Curious George
February 25, 2015 9:38 am

Did anybody investigate Rep. Grijalva’s ties with Grijalva Realty, Tucso, AZ?

Paul Coppin
February 25, 2015 9:39 am

The much bigger question will be “how will the universities respond?. This is not a subpoena, and the enquiries went to the universities, not the researchers…

richard verney
February 25, 2015 9:43 am

Turning now to the science:
Remarkably, Pielke, Jr.’s 2013 Senate testimony (here) is basically a data presentation which shows:

1.Globally, weather-related losses have not increased since 1990 as a proportion of GDP (they have actually decreased by about 25%).
2.Insured catastrophe losses have not increased as a proportion of GDP since 1960.
6.Flood losses as a percentage of US GDP have dropped by about 75% since 1940.
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These facts (assuming that they are correct) are more remarkable given the contraction in GDP growth since the 2008 crash

David A
Reply to  richard verney
February 26, 2015 9:08 pm

Yes, Pielke’s papers, among others, take the C out of CAGW. They already lost the W and the G, but the C is their bread and butter.

steveta_uk
February 25, 2015 9:46 am

Since the letter of complaint provides contact details for any question (vedgerton@mail.house.gov) and a phone number (202 225-6065) perhaps a few 100,000 questions directed their way might make them realise that this move may not be the most popular one they could have come up with.

BunkerHill Jim
February 25, 2015 9:50 am

Another thought … immigration issue here. How many future H-1B immigrants won’t buck the system, ‘the science is settled’, upon risk of being deported ? No use parents of having your kids take STEM courses, they might learn science is about skeptisim .

Newsel
Reply to  BunkerHill Jim
February 26, 2015 3:29 pm

You are barking up the wrong tree: as an entity that is willing to travel, they are probably the ones to say GFY.

Travis Casey
February 25, 2015 9:58 am

I have just put 2 and 2 together. An aha moment, if you will. As you may know the APS has put together a committee to re-evaluate their Statement on Climate 2007. They have enlisted 6 expert climate scientists to aid in the evaluation. Essentially 3 modelers plus Dr. Curry, Dr. Christy, and Dr. Lindzen. All three of the anti-alarm climate experts are included in the “list of seven” that are being investigated by Rep. Grijalva. It is well and truly a witch hunt with the unexpressed purpose of discrediting these scientists!

Newsel
Reply to  Travis Casey
February 25, 2015 12:21 pm

Thanks for taking me there…. http://judithcurry.com/2014/02/19/aps-reviews-its-climate-change-statement/
Interesting read and referenced material…

Travis casey
Reply to  Newsel
February 26, 2015 3:51 am

Having read all six of the expert presentations I feel that Dr. Christy knocked it out of the park!

Newsel
Reply to  Newsel
February 26, 2015 3:32 pm

Travis, recommended reading but one has to have an open mind 🙂

Jim Francisco
Reply to  Travis Casey
February 26, 2015 9:15 am

Communist are really good at that kind of thing. I think they do it for fun.

February 25, 2015 10:08 am

Americans are a rare people, in that we will only tolerate so much. Yes, it often feels like the great patriots are all dead, or fast asleep, but they are not. it has always has been in the past, and I believe there will be in the near future, a moment when the line in the sand gets crossed and that powerful fighting spirit returns.
Political correctness pacifies us a while longer…the threat of being labeled a racist, a denier, a lunatic is so great an affront to our reputations that we avoid anything truly confrontational and back away rather than have such things said about us.
But every day more and more people realize that they are going to say those things no matter what, even when it’s obvious that it is untrue, and eventually the majority will hit that *@mned if you do, *@mned if you don’t wall and retaliate because there’s nothing left to lose.
When they keep changing the definitions of things, applying terms where they aren’t relevant or true, words become more and more ineffective, meaningless. And when words are the only weapon they have, they are undermining their own ability to defend themselves.
Let them talk. Bully. Nudge. The boiling point is coming, and they will not win with name calling and finger pointing.

Louis
February 25, 2015 10:12 am

Roger Pielke, Jr. is being investigated for giving testimony that Holdren and Grijalva disagree with but that is in line with what the IPCC has published. Don’t they believe that the IPCC represents the consensus of climate scientists around the world? So who are the ones denying consensus science here?

Curious George
February 25, 2015 10:12 am

Last week http://www.barackobama.com started publishing a list of deniers.Barack! Hussein! Obama! Do you deny it?

sergeiMK
February 25, 2015 10:21 am

A bit like the which hunt on Mann, only milder:
The scope of this request is to reach any and all data, documents and things in your possession, including those stored or residing on any of the specified or referenced (see FN 1, supra) computers, hard drives, desktops, laptops, file servers, database servers, email servers or other systems where data was transmitted or stored on purpose or as a result of transient use of a system or application in the course of day to day research or product processing work that is owned or contracted for by you or any of your officers, managers, employees, agents, board members, academic departments, divisions, programs, IT department, contractors and other representatives.
2. As used herein, the words “record”, “records”, “document” or “documents” mean the original and any copies of any written, printed, typed, electronic, or graphic matter of any kind or nature, however produced or reproduced, any book, pamphlet, brochure, periodical, newspaper, letter, correspondence, memoranda, notice, facsimile, e-mail, manual, press release, telegram, report, study, handwritten note, working paper, chart, paper, graph, index, tape, data sheet, data processing card, or any other written, recorded, transcribed, punched, taped, filmed or graphic matter now in your possession, custody or control.

Otter (ClimateOtter on Twitter)
Reply to  sergeiMK
February 25, 2015 4:24 pm

I agree: WHICH ‘hunt’ against mikey mann?

K-Bob
Reply to  sergeiMK
February 25, 2015 8:03 pm

The difference is that Mann is not being interrogated by congress. Pielke is being interrogated strictly for political purposes. It’s obvious that democrats in Washington are seeking to destroy the messenger, as they don’t have the proof to convince those who question the CAGW cause. I’m an Arizona independent and this inquisition is starting to boil my blood. And no I don’t reside in Grijalva’s district, but will certainly support his opponent.

Reply to  K-Bob
February 26, 2015 12:32 pm

As was Mann when Cuccinelli went after him, Inhofe also tried to bully him also for political purposes.

February 25, 2015 10:22 am

Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ) represents the U of A People’s Republic of Tucson Arizona so you know his motivation.

Svend Ferdinandsen
February 25, 2015 10:26 am

It is a bit alarming that he think he should not be investigated because of his opiniens otherwise:
“This of course is a lie. I have written a book calling for a carbon tax, I have publicly supported President Obama’s proposed EPA carbon regulations, and I have just published another book strongly defending the scientific assessment of the IPCC with respect to disasters and climate change.”
This explanation could lieve the impression that if he was not supporting IPCC and EPAs carbon tax it would be OK to investigate him.
I am confused.

Jim Francisco
Reply to  Svend Ferdinandsen
February 26, 2015 9:45 am

Did anybody buy those books?

Keith
February 25, 2015 10:36 am

This is an excellent opportunity for our American colleagues to write to their congressman / woman and point out the absurd situation being fomented by the present administration and Democrats. Maybe some Republicans will have enough cojones to stand up and state how ridiculous this is, and how this hurts science and academia. Basically, it is Gulag-style repression in the USA. Stalin would be proud.

poitsplace
February 25, 2015 11:02 am

This is probably an attempt to discredit and frighten the scientists that are likely to be called on by republicans when they start looking into the EPA, NASA, NOAA, etc. Even the true believers know it will be a huge blow to their position if those organizations are found to be cooking the books.

Harold
February 25, 2015 11:08 am

Let’s not forget that this is after he was hounded out of 538.

Pat Michaels
Reply to  Harold
February 25, 2015 12:54 pm

Ya think that would have shown him which side has spine and which doesn’t. I’m perplexed by his behavior here. He’s a good guy and I can’t fathom why he would let them run him over like this. I hope he reconsiders.

Reply to  Pat Michaels
February 25, 2015 6:58 pm

Argee.

RWturner
February 25, 2015 11:25 am

The Climastrology Inquisition has begun.

Harry Passfield
Reply to  RWturner
February 25, 2015 11:34 am

pour encourager les autres

February 25, 2015 11:48 am

Reblogged this on the WeatherAction News Blog and commented:
Welcome to the brave new world of Western academia where the [alleged] fraud of Lewandowski, Cook and Nuttercelli counts as ‘legitimate science’ and Pielke gets p****d on.
http://www.joseduarte.com/blog/on-fraud
Dangerous times.

milodonharlani
February 25, 2015 12:03 pm
February 25, 2015 12:07 pm

I am starting to concentrate on looking for patterns to explain why the focus on the 7 professors selected by Grijalva plus why the NYT focus on Dr. Soon.
First step is a list of the 7 university faculty members selected by Grijalva.
According to the Democrats’ Natural Resources website**, which is affiliated with the committee’s Minority Leader (who is US Representative Raúl Grijalva {D-AZ}), here are the Universities he sent letters to and the names of faculty at those universities he is focusing on:
– University of Delaware concerning David Legates
– University of Alabama concerning John Christy
– Georgia Tech concerning Judith Curry
– MIT concerning Richard Lindzen
– Arizona State University concerning Robert Balling
– University of Colorado concerning Roger Pielke Jr
– Pepperdine University concerning Steven Hayward
** http://democrats.naturalresources.house.gov/documents/letters-seven-universities-asking-documents-climate-change-research
John

Joel Snider
February 25, 2015 12:27 pm

I can’t fully articulate what scum these people represent – it’s like every form of fascist, totalitarianism, bigoted, ideology rolled into one. Every day I think I can’t possibly think any less of them, and they never fail to dig the hole a little deeper.
Be afraid people. This is only getting started.

Jaakko Kateenkorva
February 25, 2015 1:15 pm

When citizens are singled out in this way by their own political leaders, it’s time to seek for asylum in country where freedom of opinion prevails.

rogerknights
February 25, 2015 1:16 pm

This move by Grijalva may be a feint. It may be intended to draw contrarians and others into objecting to requests for scientists’ correspondence.
Then, when data-fiddling climatologists are embarrassed when they testify, and co-ordinated skulduggery is suspected, our side won’t be in a position to call for their correspondence.
Thoughts?

Danny Thomas
Reply to  rogerknights
February 25, 2015 1:50 pm

Rogerknights,
Doesn’t look like a feint: “http://www.markey.senate.gov/news/press-releases/markey-boxer-whitehouse-query-fossil-fuel-companies-climate-denial-organizations-on-science-funding”

rogerknights
Reply to  Danny Thomas
February 25, 2015 9:48 pm

That’s a different matter. It’s not asking academics to turn over their correspondence, but corporations to turn over their funding. I agree it’s not a feint–but I have no reason to change my opinion that Grijalva’s letters are a feint, designed to fake our side out.

Craig Loehle
February 25, 2015 1:31 pm

There are hundreds of congress critters. Any one of them can make such a request. This is why climate alarmists/anyone should object to this: anyone could be subject to this type of political intimidation.
There is an implication that any receipt of fossil fuel money is a conflict of interest. wow. It is also the case that a scientist can work on some projects on his own time, as I know Willie does, but the claim again is that if one received any fossil fuel money this is not considered valid.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Craig Loehle
February 25, 2015 1:48 pm

Yes, Craig, but the dingbats are accusing real scientists(sceptics) of being paid by the fossil fuel industry when they are not.

sinewave
February 25, 2015 1:44 pm

If there’s any justice in this world, the whole endeavor will result in a political black eye for Raúl Grijalva and he’ll lose his seat in 2016. I second the suggestion to write your local congressperson and let them know how absurd this whole thing is.

John C
Reply to  sinewave
February 26, 2015 6:36 am

Sorry sinewave but his district has been gerrymandered so much there is not a chance he would be hurt by anything he does. He is just a pawn of the far left and in Tucson that is golden.

milodonharlani
Reply to  John C
February 26, 2015 6:48 am

He got only 50% in 2010, so his district was made more Democratic. It includes west Tucson, Yuma, Nogales & a bit of the Phoenix metro area. It’s a third world country on the US-Mexican border. Spanish is the main language.