Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball
Pope Francis advocates the global warming agenda of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), with the help of the Obama White House. Apparently, he doesn’t know their ultimate objective of reducing and controlling population generally contradicts Catholic doctrine. The irony is that as a Jesuit, the ideological church police, he should know, but apparently, his personal, political and economic perspective trumps it. He also doesn’t appear to know that population control comes naturally with industrial and economic development.
Coercion of the Pope to the global warming message likely began with John Kerry’s visit to the Vatican, ostensibly to discuss Middle East issues. The Boston Globe researched Kerry during his Presidential run and discovered that,
The Kerry family was traced back to a small town in the Austrian empire, now part of the Czech Republic. There, the paper discovered that before immigrating to America, the Kerrys changed their name from Kohn and converted from Judaism to Catholicism.
His Catholicism caused him much political trouble during his presidential campaign. Now the Obama administration has taken the next step, which is standard in the entire development of the IPCC climate campaign, by involving the top bureaucrat of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Gina McCarthy.
EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy told reporters that her aim in visiting was to show the Vatican how aligned President Barack Obama and Francis are on climate change. She said she wanted to stress that global warming isn’t just an environmental issue, but a public health threat, and yet also a chance for economic opportunity.
The last comment parallels the political objective identified by Canadian Environment Minister Christine Stewart, who said,
“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
These objectives appeal to a man familiar with the slums and poverty of Argentina. The problem is the more likely objective is to eliminate the people in them. Consider Prince Philip’s quote;
I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist… I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.
I recommend the list begin with monarchs.
Religious and political analogies abound between environmentalism and its subset, global warming. Former Czech Republic President, Vaclav Klaus, who gave the keynote address at the first Heartland Climate Conference in New York, warned about the growing trend.
Nevertheless, there is another threat on the horizon. I see this threat in environmentalism, which is becoming a new dominant ideology, if not a religion. Its main weapon is raising the alarm and predicting the human life endangering climate change based on man-made global warming.
Figure 1 shows how, as usual, cartoonists see the trend ahead of most and are able to comment without fear, until recently.
Figure 1
I wrote about similar parallels between religion and global warming by comparing Al Gore to the Pardoner, in Chaucer’s (c.1342 – 1400) The Canterbury Tales. Gore pushed carbon credits like The Pardoner pushed indulgences or pardons, hence his name. Here is Paul Johnson’s description of the Pardoner.
“The Pardoner, a seller of indulgences, is a complete and shameless rogue; but Chaucer, not content with exposing his impudence, shows how good he was at his job and how powerfully he preached against sinfulness. The Pardoner had also been taught to use the figure of death to scare his hearers.”
The opening lines of the Pardoner’s Tale provide the parallel with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) message.
“My lords, he said, in churches where I preach
I cultivate a haughty kind of speech
And wring it out as roundly as a bell;
I’ve got it all by heart, detail I tell.
I have a text, it always is the same
And always has been since I learned the game,
Old as the hills and fresher than the grass,
Radix malorum est cupiditas.”
(“greed is the root of evils”)
The Club of Rome (COR) took the Malthusian idea that world population would outgrow food resources and expanded it to all resources. They sponsored the 1972 book Limits To Growth, which was a forerunner to the IPCC Reports approach. It used simple linear trends for population and resources to project catastrophic projections. They used computer models to create the illusion of scientific accuracy.
The argument was twofold. Pressure on resources was occurring simply by natural rates of population increase, and developed nations were using the resources at an accelerated rate. The goal was also twofold. Reduce population overall and reduce industrialization that caused the increased demand on resources.
First and foremost of the Club of Rome Neo-Malthusians was Paul Ehrlich, whose 1968 book, The Population Bomb, became the bible for environmentalists. It also convinced most people, even though virtually all its predictions were wrong, that the world was overpopulated. Ehrlich also co-authored a book, Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment, with the person, John Holdren, who continues the fight, but from a position of power as Obama’s Science Czar. It is entirely likely that he is pushing Obama, Kerry and the EPA among others on the climate agenda.
What were some of the views on population Holdren set out in the book?
“• Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
• The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation’s drinking water or in food;
• Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
• People who “contribute to social deterioration” (i.e. undesirables) “can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility” — in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
• A transnational “Planetary Regime” should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans’ lives — using an armed international police force.”
Most Americans would oppose such measures, so Holdren had a solution to bypass them, using the shield of the Constitution.
Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society.
Who concluded that such laws “could be sustained”? The answer is Holdren and his cohorts. But they also control the justification for action, because Holdren decides when “the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger society”.
Holdren disavowed all these beliefs at his Senate confirmation hearings and in additional press releases, which said in part,
“This material is from a three-decade-old, three-author college textbook. Dr. Holdren addressed this issue during his confirmation when he said he does not believe that determining optimal population is a proper role of government. Dr. Holdren is not and never has been an advocate for policies of forced sterilization.”
Notice that Holdren doesn’t disavow his view on overpopulation. He only says, government shouldn’t control it, especially with forced sterilization. Clearly, he still thinks overpopulation is a problem.
In a larger sense, it doesn’t matter because major policy positions and global conferences continue with incorrect claims about overpopulation. It is central to the Principles of Agenda 21 set out in, what else, a Synthesis Report. It triggered the UN international population conference in Cairo in November 1994, with Vice President Al Gore leading the US delegation. One interesting comment about the Cairo conference, that shows some things haven’t changed, was this cryptic note.
Despite dire predictions that the conference would be the focus of attack by Islamic militants, there were no violent incidents.
Little else has changed either. Proponents of the IPCC and their anthropogenic global warming (AGW) hypothesis continue their crusade (pun intended) by inveigling the support of authority figures, like the Pope and by inference, associated groups. These are classic, appeals to authority, like Lord May’s use of the Royal Society to persuade other science societies to support the AGW cause.
Most members of the Societies didn’t know what their leaders were doing and many demanded retraction or at least restatement. Many of the parishioners are rebelling against religious involvement. A few years ago, members of the Catholic Church of Scotland, who were annoyed that their bishop had directed priests to preach against global warming, approached me. Their view was biblical,
“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
The Pope apparently did not think through his commitment to the IPCC claims as expounded by the Obama White House. Likely, he was easily persuaded, because so much of the false claims fit his socialist ideology. He tried to walk back his commitment by jokingly suggesting he was not promoting population control. He said,
“Some think, excuse me if I use the word, that in order to be good Catholics, we have to be like rabbits…but no,”
He later backtracked on this comment.
Wednesday, he seemed to pull back from that statement. Speaking of his recent trip to the Philippines, where he presided over the largest mass in history, he said “it gives consolation and hope to see so many numerous families who receive children as a real gift of God. They know that every child is a benediction.”
He called “simplistic” the belief that large families were the cause of poverty, blaming it instead on an unjust economic system. “We can all say that the principal cause of poverty is an economic system that has removed the person from the center, and put the god of money there instead.”
This comment appears to show further lack of understanding, created by an idée fixe.
Ironically, both the IPCC and the Pope fail to recognize the proven dynamics of the Demographic Transition. This theory basically shows that population decreases naturally when industrial economic development is allowed. The key is it must be allowed without interference from government or the church as this author explains.
As with all models, the demographic transition model has its problems. The model does not provide “guidelines” as to how long it takes a country to get from Stage I to III. Western European countries took centuries though some rapidly developing countries like the Economic Tigers are transforming in mere decades. The model also does not predict that all countries will reach Stage III and have stable low birth and death rates. There are factors such as religion that keep some countries’ birth rate from dropping.
The good news is, most Catholics are not listening. In Catholic countries, the population rate has declined considerably. Reportedly, the best measure is the Total Fertility Rate (TFR), the expected number of children born per woman in her child-bearing years.
Taken globally, the total fertility rate at replacement is 2.33 children per woman. At this rate, global population growth would tend towards zero.
Fertility rates for four predominantly catholic countries are;
Poland – 1.41
Hungary – 1.41
Italy – 1.48
France – 1.98
But the Pope doesn’t need to worry; Italy, France, and other European nations are offsetting the decline with Muslim immigrants with higher TFRs.
Apparently, the Pope could learn from the French philosopher Montesquieu. He reportedly said, whenever he was tempted to talk about something on which he had little knowledge, he remembered his personal guideline. Never talk to other men about his wife, because they might be more knowledgeable on the subject than he was. Maybe the problem for perspective is that the Pope doesn’t have a wife.
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The IPCC/UN and he Catholic church would seem ideal bedfellows. Both are greedy money grubbing parasites which hold out promises of salvation which will never and can never materialise based on ludicrous and false premisses. Both are manned by high priest who advocate one rule for you and another for use – in both cases the high priests live in luxury and the congregation live in poverty – whilst also claiming they are trying to improve the lot of the congregation whilst actually curtailing any real possibility for self improvement. Both have attempted to corrupt and retard science to some degree or other, Galileo’s run in with the church and IPCC/UN record ad nausaum. Both have advocated execution of heretics.
More can be added to the list I’m sure.
‘It is certainly not as though the Catholic clergy have a good record, now or in the past, of getting the science right.’
Au contraire, the most eminent cosmologists in Europe in the 18th century were Jesuits. They educated the Chinese who believed the world was largely flat about earth and space. Copernicus was a Catholic monk and priest. The cosmologist who first proposed, the now popular Big Bang theory, was a Belgian priest etc etc. Overall, I’d say the Catholic Church, due to its antiquity and long-held support for the natural sciences, has probably a better track record in scientific discovery than any university in the West today in terms of the number of important scientists in its ranks of religious and clergy.
I like WUWT as the commenters here are generally bright, articulate and well-read. However, I’m beginning to doubt that now due to the quality of many of the comments here on this. This is run-of the-mill and typical anti-Catholic prejudice (like anti-Semitism, a centuries-old part of European & latterly North American politics). I was utterly amazed to hear recently from an American former southern-raised Baptist (now a Catholic) the extent, even today, that many Protestants are raised to hate or distrust Catholics – mind boggling! Catholics don’t spend a lot of time thinking or talking about Protestants but if they do the sentiment is largely one of feeling sorry for them.
What? Catholics educated the Chinese in the 18th century, really? I guess Muslims (Arabs) didn’t lend their study or technology to the Christian world (Read the device used to “find Mecca” gave birth to the sextant) either?
Yes, Patrick – they did. The Jesuits were amongst the first Christian missionaries to China in the 18th century. The second half of your post doesn’t make any sense to me.
Many partly think what they do because of papal pronouncements that have zero basis in reality or are otherwise misguided, which essentially undermines papal authority in the long run. For how long would this have to go on before people revolt against that authority in the long run as life and reality doesn’t conform to papal edicts?
People will know, they’ll figure it out, they’ll get educated, as we start to cool off under low solar conditions, which will undermine what the Pope is supporting, he’ll lose respect. The people will not like being impoverished over a falsehood imposed on them by a religious authority figure for no good reason.
As in all religions Hoplite, there are standout individuals who would have probably made the same kind of mark on the world no matter what religion they belonged.
Pope Francis preaching GW and by default population control is not surprising. Two months ago he worshipped a false idol when he bowed toward Mecca (meteorite) with Muslims to pray! He obviously got the same lecture as the administrator of Nasa who stated Muslim outreach was mission number one…
the pope is a socialist and evil. Evil because he said Islam is a peaceful religion which he knows is a lie.
Paul – you’re guilty of online ragegasm (my new word I learnt today!). Given that it’s only thousands (or maybe at a push hundreds of thousands) of Muslims who are engaging in violence against the West out of a potential pool of over 2 billion that amounts still to less than 1/100th of 1%! Now talk about tarring everyone with the one brush!! I work and live with Muslims and the violence and intolerance I am exposed to is much much less than in the West generally and in the US particularly. You need to get out a bit more Paul meet some Muslims and you will find them nice peaceable people. Given the amount of killing and conquest engaged with by the West over the last 2 centuries we really can’t be pointing the finger at them and saying they’re violent people! Time to brush off your prejudices.
Read the Koran when muslims rule a country according to the koran you either convert to Islam or die but if you are a person of the book Jew or Christian then you can live if you pay a tax.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Shariah Read this article to find out what muslims really think and believe in
Is there any instance where the Catholic Church initialy got it right regarding science?
Obviously Mendel and they knew the universe had a beginning from revelation.
There are other cases.
You’d do better to be offended at the Catholic Church’s conservative social attitude rather than its funding of research.
After all, who do you think funded Galileo?
Sunspot,
Yes. The Church embraced Copernican celestial mechanics before Galileo, they changed the calender from the Juian to Gregorian to correct the error in the seasons, invented the study of genetics (Gregor Mendel), invented the big bang theory, (LeMaitre), evolution was accepted by JPII, Analytical Geometry (Decartes) …. etc etc….to name but a few small contributions.
Don’t forget they started the entire western university system itself. Is that enough for today?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science
This is what Galileo pointed out to those who were wodering why there were so many scholastics so ruthlessly opposing him, regarding Copernicus: In Galileo’s own words, in his own defense:
“In order to facilitate their designs, they seek so far as possible (at least with the common people) to make this opinion seem new and to belong to me alone. They pretend not to know that its author, or rather its restorer and confirmer, was Nicholas Copernicus; and that he was not only a Catholic, but a priest and a canon. He was in fact so esteemed by the church that when the Lateran Council under Leo X took up the correction of the church calendar, Copernicus was called to Rome from the most remote parts of Germany to undertake its reform. At that time the calendar was defective because the true measures of the year and of the lunar month were not exactly known. The Bishop of Fossombrone, then in charge of this matter, assigned Copernicus to seek more light and greater certainty concerning the celestial motions by means of constant study and labor. With Herculean toil he set his admirable mind to this task, and he made such great progress in this science and brought our knowledge of the heavenly motions to such precision that he became celebrated as an astronomer. Since that time not only has the calendar been regulated by his teachings, but tables of all the motions of the plantets have been calculated as well.”
Galileo said that the reason he was being opposed and pursued was because he was refuting Ptolemy and Aristotle.
Zeke,
The two trial of Galileo resulted in 2 judgments. 1) Galileo admitted that he had no objective proof that the earth revolved around a FIXED sun. He did not have any proof. He had a hypothesis. 2) Galileo extrapolated his scientific knowledge into the realm of the scriptures and usurped the teaching authority of the Church. On 1) Galileo was 1/2 wrong. On 2) Galileo was 100% wrong.
Johannes Kepler came to Galileo’s defense, using the Church accepted Copernican model as a foundation. In fact, Copernicus’ book was authorized and signed by Pope Paul III himself.
Galileo never made the claim you placed in bold. I suggest you learn the language of the 15th century scholars and read the transcripts of his trials. Your claims are your fabrications.
Galileo’s statement in his own defense:
“Persisting in their original resolve to destroy me and everything mine by any means they can think of, these men are aware of my views in astronomy and philosophy. They know that as to the arrangement of the pars of the universe, I hold the sun to be situated motionless in the center of the revolution of the celestial orbs while the earth rotates on its axis and revolves about the sun. They know also that I support this position not only by refuting the arguments of Ptolemy and Aristotle, but by producing many counter-arguments; in particular, some which relate to physical effects whose causes can perhaps be assigned in no other way. In addition there are astronomical arguments derived from many things in my new celestial discoveries that plainly confute the Ptolemaic system while admirably agreeing with and confirming the contrary hypothesis.”
Zeke,
Like I said, the initial bolded statement was never made by Galileo. You found one of the famous letters and you infer from it something not stated, then you bold something else that sort of sounds like what you claimed to be Galileo’s words. Not cool.
The Church embraced Copernican mechanics BEFORE Galileo was even known. Copernicus asked permission to print his book of Pope Paul III, who agreed and wrote in it himself. The protestant reformations were the enemies of Copernicus who accused Copernicus of sorcery. The protestants and most of the science community did not accept the Copernican model. It was new and revolutionary.
So your assertion that Galileo’s letters to the Grand Duchess regarding “they” bore some relevance to the articles of his trials and make conclusions is quite a stretch. He certainly was no enemy of the Church.
In the every same letter Galileo also says:
” I think in the first place that it is very pious to say and prudent to affirm that the holy Bible can never speak untruth”
Furthermore in your very quote Galileo states that the sun is immovable. ie ” I hold the sun to be situated motionless in the center of the revolution of the celestial orbs”. During his trial, he is asked to prove that. Prove that the sun does not move and that the earth rotates around it. He could not. He was instructed to admit that he could not prove it. Eventually, he capitulated and admitted he could offer no proof that the sun was motionless, which it isn’t, and that the earth rotates around it, which it does.
In his letter to the Grand Duchess Galileo also quotes a cardinal who had said to him,
“I would say here something that was heard from an ecclesiastic of the most eminent degree: “That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven. not how heaven goes.””
“That the intention of the Holy Ghost is to teach us how one goes to heaven. not how heaven goes.”
That was first uttered by a cardinal, then later copied by Galileo, then later copied by everyone, attributing it to Galileo, especially the quack, Neil deGrasse Tyson. he says it all of the time not knowing it came from a catholic cardinal. What an ignoramus.
Both statements by Galileo are plain enough. Objective observers will decide for themselves.
Why should anybody leave it to the Pope to decide any such thing to begin with?
His OPINION is no better than any other person’s opinion who can’t or won’t recognize and acknowledge that the 0.8 degrees centigrade of temperature rise since 1880 is nothing, has caused no problems, and that that temperature rise is not leading to any catastrophe down the road. What makes his opinion so special that he should decide? He should’ve stayed out of it. I’m sorry Lewis, but these issues are not going away.
I’m ROFL at Google’s ad placement. This morning one showing young females prancing in short dresses appears below this article.
That doesn’t work against population control?
But hey! it’s Goofedup Google. 🙂
The catholic church receives a large amount of money from the US Federal gubment. Of course they have to play nice.
The point that Tim Ball has made, and his intelligent concern, is that the Roman Church appears at this time to be in the process of departing from its foundational teachings about population control/birth control, and accepting current sustainability doctrine from science.
It is well to look into this trend, and there is plenty of feedback here if the Roman Church wants to know what the “laity” thinks of this.
Yet it is probably a good time to realize that the sustainability/UN activists are active in the greening of all religions. The scientific paradigm of sustainability has been long in the making and it is an “interdisciplinary” paradigm, including the soft sciences, arts, and the kitchen sink – what ever it takes to enforce the sustainability scientific paradigm messaging at all times and in all places. This includes especially misappropriated and mischaracterized spiritual/traditional faiths – and even the occult.
I found this recently. Look, Hippy Daycare, or Cannabis Generation Spiritual Disneyland!
If you dare to look, the sri sri followers are claiming to have seen him “raise the dead” and “walk on water.” He also has PhDs and worked for NASA to boot. A little of everything! Doesn’t that seem like a lot of money to build a sustainable city “out of whole cloth,” shall we say?
So the fact is that scientists and Cannabis Generation environmentalists and atheists have long been practicing the shameless use of folk beliefs and texts as a sockpuppet for their own objectives. It has been going on for decades now. It is regular fare. And so out of concern I think it is right to point out that it is not only the laity in the Roman Chruch who are being groomed for the green scientific paradigm of sustainability. Everyone is.
For anybody who wants to get a better understanding of Pope Francis’ thoughts about the size of families I recommend the following:
http://abbey-roads.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/the-holy-father-pope-francis-supports.html
http://redcardigan.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/why-no-were-not-rabbits.html
I’m surprised to find WUWT followers falling for the MSM version.
Fertility rates for four predominantly catholic countries are;
Poland – 1.41
Hungary – 1.41
Italy – 1.48
France – 1.98
Oh that the claim that those countries are ‘predominantly’ Catholic were true of all of them. France, unfortunately, ceased to be a predominantly Catholic country many years ago. Church-going attendance in both France and Hungary was recently (2005) put as low as 12 per cent. of the population. The figure for Italy was 31 per cent. Hardly evidence of being ‘predominantly Catholic’, But that level of misinformation just about sums up Mr Ball’s article.
Nor is there any such entity as ‘the Catholic Church of Scotland”. There is a (Protestant) Church of Scotland but the Catholic Church is universal so the correct terminology should be ‘the Catholic Church IN Scotland. If Mr Ball can’t get things like that correct how much can we trust anything else he says about the Catholic Church.
Alba, Catholic living in Scotland
As I posted earlier on this thread. Ball’s article is mostly a hit piece, with very little substance. Its ‘hits’ consist of quotes from others about the Pope, but little from the Pope directly. The article is not competent Journalism.
Yup. That it was. He should rewrite it.
This what the Pope said and what Tim Ball could not bring himself to show you.
“I don’t know if it is the only cause, but mostly, in great part, it is man who has slapped nature in the face,” he said. “We have in a sense taken over nature.”
From this, T Ball goes sideways.
Tim Tim Tim. His first 3 words were “I DON’t KNOW”
Why didn’t Tim Ball write out the quote?
Because this article is a hit piece and it works better for him if YOU ALL believe that the Pope said that global warming is man;’s fault.
Well the pope did not say that. Dr Ball, you owe us all a contrite apology for 1) misrepresenting the facts, and 2) then based on the lie, launching an ad homine attack on the church and its good science loving people.
Thought i’d seen everything… Alarmist liberals defending the pope! Priceless!!! Thank you God.
The Fourth Crusade is not understood by most. The Sack of Constantinople in 1204 was probably revenge for the Massacre of the Latins by the Byzantines in 1182. Attacks on the Orthodox were actually condemned by the Pope.