Obama, Gore other climate alarmists refuse to debate, but love to vilify – and love their money
Manmade climate disaster proponents know the Saul Alinksy community agitator playbook by heart. In a fight, almost anything goes. Never admit error; just change your terminology and attack again. Expand your base, by giving potential allies financial and political reasons to join your cause. Pick “enemy” targets, freeze them, personalize them, polarize them and vilify them.
The “crisis” was global cooling, until Earth stopped cooling around 1976. It was global warming, until our planet stopped warming around 1995. The alarmist mantra then became “climate change” or “climate disruption” or “extreme weather.” Always manmade. Since Earth’s climate often fluctuates, and there are always weather extremes, such claims can never be disproven, certainly not to the alarmists’ satisfaction.
Alarmists say modern civilization’s “greenhouse gas” emissions are causing profound climate change – by replacing the powerful, interconnected solar and other natural forces that have driven climate and weather patterns and events since Earth and human history began. They insist that these alleged human-induced changes are already happening and are already disastrous. Pope Francis says we are already witnessing a “great cataclysm” for our planet, people and environment.
However, there is no cataclysm – now or imminent – even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have gone well past the alleged 350 parts-per-million “tipping point,” and now hover near 400 ppm (0.04%). There has been no warming since 1995, and recent winters have been among the coldest in centuries in the United Kingdom and continental Europe, despite steadily rising levels of plant-fertilizing CO2.
As of January 12, 2015, it has been 3,365 days (9.2 years!) since a Category 3-5 hurricane hit the US mainland. This is by far the longest such stretch since record-keeping began in 1900, if not since the American Civil War. Sea levels are barely rising, at a mere seven inches per century. Antarctic sea ice is expanding to new records; Arctic ice has also rebounded. Polar bears are thriving. In fact:
Every measure of actual evidence contradicts alarmist claims and computer model predictions. No matter how fast or sophisticated those models are, feeding them false or unproven assumptions about CO2 and manipulated or “homogenized” temperature data still yields garbage output, scenarios and predictions.
That’s why alarmists also intoned the “peak oil” and “resource depletion” mantra – until fracking produced gushers of new supplies. So now they talk about “sustainable development,” which really means “whatever we advocate is sustainable; whatever we despise and oppose is unsustainable.”
USEPA Administrator Gina McCarthy also ignores climate realities. Her agency is battling coal-fired power plants (and will go after methane and gas-fired generators next), to “stop climate change” and “trigger a range of investments” in innovation and a “clean power future.” What she really means is: Smart businesses will support our agenda. If they do, we’ll give them billions in taxpayer and consumer money. If they oppose us, we will crush them. And when we say innovation, we don’t mean fracking.
As to responding to these inconvenient climate realities, or debating them with the thousands of scientists who reject the “dangerous manmade climate change” tautology, she responds: “The time for arguing about climate change has passed. The vast majority of scientists agree that our climate is changing.”
This absurd, dismissive assertion underscores citizen investigative journalist Russell Cook’s findings, in his perceptive and fascinating Merchants of Smear report. The climate catastrophe narrative survives only because there has been virtually no debate over its scientific claims, he explains. The public rarely sees the extensive evidence debunking and destroying climate cataclysm assertions, because alarmists insist that “the science is settled,” refuse to acknowledge or debate anyone who says otherwise, and claim skeptical scientists get paid by oil companies, tainting anything they say.
The fossil-fuel-payoff claim is classic Alinsky: Target and vilify your “enemies.”
“No one has ever offered an iota of evidence” that oil interests paid skeptical researchers to change their science to fit industry views, “despite legions of people repeating the claim,” Cook notes. “Never has so much – the very survival of the global warming issue – depended on so little – a paper-thin accusation from people having hugely troubling credibility issues of their own.” The tactic is intended to marginalize manmade global warming skeptics. But the larger problem is mainstream media malfeasance: reporters never question “climate crisis” dogmas … or allegations that “climate denier” scientists are willing to fabricate studies questioning “settled science” for a few grand in illicit industry money.
Pay no attention to the real-world climate or those guys behind the curtain, we are told. Just worry about climate monsters conjured up by their computer models. “Climate change deniers” are Big Oil lackeys – and you should turn a blind eye to the billions of dollars in government, industry and foundation money paid annually to researchers and modelers who subscribe to manmade climate disruption claims.
In fact, the US government alone spent over $106 billion in taxpayer funds on alarmist climate research between 2003 and 2010. In return, the researchers refuse to let other scientists, IPCC reviewers or FOIA investigators see their raw data, computer codes or CO2-driven algorithms. The modelers and scientists claim the information is private property, even though taxpayers paid for the work and the results are used to justify energy, job and economy-killing policies and regulations. Uncle Sam spends billions more every year on renewable energy programs that raise energy prices, cost jobs and reduce living standards.
None of these recipients wants to derail this money train, by entertaining doubts about the “climate crisis.” Al Gore won’t debate anyone or even address audience questions he hasn’t preapproved.
As to claims of a “97% consensus,” one source is responses from 75 of 77 “climate scientists” who were selected from a 2010 survey that went to 10,257 scientists. Apparently, the analysts didn’t like the “consensus” of the other 10,180 scientists. Another study, by a University of Queensland professor, claimed that 97% of published scientific papers agree that humans caused at least half of the 1.3o F (0.7o C) global warming since 1950; in reality, only 41 of the 11,944 papers cited explicitly said this.
“Skeptical” scientists do not say climate doesn’t change or humans don’t affect Earth’s climate to some (small) degree. However, more than 1,000 climate scientists, 31,000 American scientists and 48% of US meteorologists say there is no evidence that we are causing dangerous warming or climate change.
Two recent United States Senate staff reports shed further light on other shady dealings that underlie the “dangerous manmade climate change” house of cards. Chains of Environmental Command reveals how Big Green activists and foundations collude with federal agencies to develop renewable energy and anti-hydrocarbon policies. EPA’s Playbook Unveiled shines a bright light on the fraud, deceit and secret science behind the agency’s sue-and-settle lawsuits, pollution standards and CO2 regulations.
The phony “solutions” to the imaginary “climate crisis” hurt our children and grandchildren, by driving up energy prices, threatening electricity reliability, thwarting job creation, adversely impacting people’s health and welfare, and subsidizing wind turbines that slaughter birds and bats. They perpetuate poverty, misery, disease and premature death in poor African and Asian countries, by blocking construction of fossil fuel power plants that would bring electricity to 1.3 billion people who still do not have it.
The caterwauling over climate change has nothing to do with real-world warming, cooling, storms or droughts. It has everything to do with an ideologically driven hatred of hydrocarbons, capitalism and economic development, and a callous disdain for middle class workers and impoverished Third World families that “progressive” activists, politicians and bureaucrats always claim to care so much about.
House and Senate committees should use studies cited above as a guide for requiring a robust pollution, health and climate debate. They should compel EPA, climate modelers and scientists to testify under oath, present their evidence and respond to tough questions. Congress should then block any regulations that do not conform to the scientific method and basic standards of honesty, transparency and solid proof.
Paul Driessen is senior policy analyst for the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org), author of Eco-Imperialism: Green power – Black death and coauthor of Cracking Big Green: To save the world from the Save-the-Earth money machine.
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Of all the players in this CAGW story, the mainstream media has abandoned their fourth estate role. The press is supposed to counter the existing politic.
For the US press to agree to every statement or initiative from a sitting government is treasonous.
The so-called MSM have lost their purpose and are now mere Progressive mouth-pieces.
TASS would be proud.
The purpose of the press is to make money, an increasingly difficult task since that bugger Marconi put his spoke in. The internet actually killed them off, but like the 300 year old oak tree in
my garden, mortality is a slow process. The real current communicator is television, fragmented and ephemeral as it is. The moment the, never arriving, “catastrophe” sells less than stories of “fraud and deception by government agency” then CAGW will run like an old sock.
Our Harold Wilson famously said “a week is a long time in politics”, the change in the “political climate” can be that quick.
Some people are too busy being (faux)outraged at spy agencies and law enforcement to care about what less-fashionable-to-hate government agency transgressions exist.
I haven’t seen TASS mentioned in a very long time. I think that if the Russian commies didn’t start this whole global warming thing then they must be whacking themselves in the head for not thinking of it.
RobRoy
January 18, 2015 at 10:53 am
Of all the players in this CAGW story, the mainstream media has abandoned their fourth estate role.
True dat.
There are a few journalists holding to their tradition, but sadly, not enough.
I keep seeing articles about how skeptics somehow can’t see the evidence, smearing skeptics…calling them stupid. I think we should start some sort of climate meme or standard answer in which we basically point out that they claim 3C+ of warming but only ever defend 1.5C of warming. Something to drive home the point in an unavoidable, undeniable way…the fact that what they’re claiming is not what they’re supporting. Its what the consensus question rupports (…responsible for at least half of the warming…). Its what the “but CO2 is a greenhouse gas” argument supports.
1.5C IS NOT 3C! Even for extremely large values of 1.5C
I for one believe the gaseous emissions associated with climate alarmism are a real problem.
Are you talking about climate alarmist emissions?
Is there something missing from this sentence: “Alarmists say modern civilization’s “greenhouse gas” emissions are causing profound climate change – by replacing the powerful, interconnected solar and other natural forces that have driven climate and weather patterns and events since Earth and human history began.”?
Hello Jim.
In one way yes it could be put as in your above sentence, but in my opinion if we look carefully at the whole back-bone of the contemporary climatology, it is even simpler than that basically.
According to climatology the only smoking gun considered as a climate changer is the Milankovitch cycles, naturally speaking.
The CO2 is only an amplifier of warming.
But in the modern era the anthropogenic CO2 emissions are considered as a very likely cause of AGW, a climate change due to man or as they also say ACC.
There is no need of considering a replacing….a climate that changes naturally due to a cause as Milankovitch cycles has plenty of room to be forced by man and change according to anthropogenic forcing.
The CO2 emissions in the anthropogenic era become a climate changer simply because of the quick and higher ever increase of these emissions, because there seems to be enough room in climate for the CO2 emissions to become a climate changer as climate too tolerant if climate change due to Milankovitch cycles…..and also because the 20th century warming is to an extent an unexplainable anomaly under the known natural climatic variations.
So actually, as far as I can tell, the CO2 emissions becoming a climate changer are not replacing any other cause. Still in the long run the Milankovitch cycles supposedly rule as the main changer still, but there, in such a climate, is enough time and tolerance there for a CO2 mid-term rule, so to speak.
That I think is the basics of how CO2 becomes a climate changer.
The once Runaway Global Warming was a kinda of thesis based in the basics of the Milankovitch cycles theory, very similar as far as I can tell, hopefully if I am not wrong.
If one day AGW is proved wrong by the reality, as in the case of a plateua or a starting cooling period, then the other big problem for the climatology will be the validity of the Milankovitch cycles climate change theory and their 100 K years of the Ice Age, basically they have to turn back to the black-board and start from the very beginning.
That I think is another very strong reason to keep up the AGW for as long as possible, because while it goes down, it will not go alone.
hopefully I have been clear enough with my explanation and the English……
cheers
My mistake, I misunderstood the 2nd paragraph; I’m fully in agreement with Paul Driessen’s essay. Thank you for your response.
There is an alternative explanation of the amplification of Milankovitch tsi increase at the end of ice ages. it’s biofeedback from phytoplankton reducing cloud albedo. I submitted the paper 3 years ago but Editors are clearly too scared to publish it for fear of losing their jobs.
The underlying data, which prove Sagan’s AIE has the wrong sign, were confirmed by the US’ top cloud physicist; he apparently can’t publish either.
In short, the IPCC pseudoscience has got ALL the basic IR and radiative and aerosol physics wrong. Carl Sagan made 4 bad mistakes in the 1960s, poisoned the well of US Atmospheric Science and deceived its practitioners.
Only now are they finding from real observations that they wasted their research career on the altar of Sagan’s strong desire for self-publicity at the expense of Science.
A nations future depends on the availability of energy. Oil has been and will be a major source of energy. I think we should be buying cheap Saudi oil while it is cheap and saving ours for the future. The oil companies will still be able to make a profit in their refining of the Saudi oil. Also, energy poor developing nations can take advantage of the cheaper price. Saudi oil won’t last forever.
Isnt 400 ppm 0.004 isntead of 0.04?
Was reading the paper today, more doom and gloom. They were dismissive of the idea that over supply was the cause of the lowered oil prices. Based on the falling price of copper as well they posited it was actually caused by lowered demand caused by manufacture wanting less bacause were actually in a economic downturn.
Its pretty certain they’ve got it wrong on the oil, but if they’re right about the copper it ould be interesting to see what record low oil prices would do to the economy.
or they are simply so married to the idea of peak oil they cant wrap their minds around the fact were producing more.
No, it’s 0.04%. 100% = 1,000,000 ppm; 10% = 100,000 ppm; 1% = 10,000 ppm; 0.1% = 1000 ppm; 0.01% = 100 ppm. 400 ppm = 4 x 100 ppm = 4 x 0.01% = 0.04%. Hope this helps.
Thanks. Brain wasn’t cooperating. Is it ok to claim advanced age at 29?
Using ‘fractions’ is quite eye-opening. By dividing 1,000,000 by 400 means that total CO2 is 1/2,500th of all atmospheric gases. Sadly “Carbon Dioxide now reaches a two thousandth five hundredth of the air we breath” does not quite cut it with the MSM headlines.
Very well said.
CAGW Meme brought to us, at our expense, by our own bureaucrats.
Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming.
Created, promoted and now desperately protected (from investigation) by our civic masters.
I too enjoy using “Enviro-Speak” to converse with the emotional challenged.
The Athabasca Oil Sands are the most massive natural oil spill know to man.
We canadians are religiously cleaning these natural sands at great expense to our selves.
How dare these foreign funded fake environmental organizations oppose our efforts?
We are doing Ghia’s work,what kind of planet hating nitwits would prefer the status quote?
Where for 10s of thousands of years the spring freshnet has ripped through these polluted sands, distributing this raw bitumen all the way to the Beaufort Sea.
Those hard working Oilsands crews are saving the mighty Mackenzie River, cleansing the Slave and making the Athabasca more drinkable every day.
Nevermind the sheer absurdity of a carbon based life form wailing and gnashing itself about “carbon pollution”.
In 2001, James Hanson got a grant from Heinz Foundation worth at least 250,000 dollars and oh yeah, Hansen endorse Teresa Heinz’s husband for the Presidency in 2004. And this is just the tip of the iceberg with alarmists and their pay masters.
Don’t forget that a substantial part of the society including MSM is brainwashed to a level of fundamentalism, with the keywords of CO2, hurricanes, melting of the arctic, global warming and sealevel rise as evil and glory to solar and windmills. But there is hope, the Paris conference, I expect a clash between te West and the rest of the world.
Personally I can’t do much, I am contageous, worked for bigoil, but I will try for some counterplay.
Let us not forget the role of the UN here in plugging the line. The higher certainties claimrd while the correlation diminishes is a sure sign that something is fishy.
And of course the pure hatred toward the our poor coloured cousins.
The self hatred of the Cult of Calamitous Climate is Eugenics reborn, using almost all of the NGO’s and international aid agencies, which are now actively sabotaging the third worlds efforts to rise out of poverty.
Such foul behaviour shall not go unnoticed nor unrewarded.
The constant refrain that there be too many people, is an open admission by these self proclaimed do-gooders.
Of course they tolerate no discussion, to see themselves through other peoples eyes would be indeed catastrophic .. for this faith.
Their fatal flaw has always been their aggressive projection of their motives upon any who question their great cause.
Act as a mirror and the believer will hate you.
Laugh out load and they will attempt to attack you.
Ridicule them and they flee in terror.
Never forget that their belief that humanity is stupid and easily led, is modelled upon their own self assessment.
‘Another study, by a University of Queensland professor, claimed that 97% of published scientific papers agree that humans caused at least half of the 1.3o F (0.7o C) global warming since 1950; in reality, only 41 of the 11,944 papers cited explicitly said this …’.
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If that’s a reference to John Cook, he certainly ain’t a professor …
http://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2014/01/uq-climate-change-paper-has-whole-world-talking
… not yet anyway.
400 parts per million = 0.000400 = .04%
just move the decimal point 6 places left, then 2 places right for per cent
” They perpetuate poverty, misery, disease and premature death in poor African and Asian countries, by blocking construction of fossil fuel power plants that would bring electricity to 1.3 billion people who still do not have it.”
People that live a subsidence living are always at the whims of the weather. They are always living on the edge. If you want to cure climate change either colder or warmer… end poverty Build the plants that will provide low cost electric. And someday.. nobody can deny it… either a very large volcano will blow up, not a could be, will, and someday a very large rock will fall out of the sky, will, not maybe. Do we stop living? So far CAGW is a could be or maybe. Climate change COULD be world wide with local results. If people have the resources they can handle local results. Suppose the drought in California ran on for another 10 years, don’t you think that they would come up with a solution? They have the resources, knowledge and people to provide all the water they will ever need. Whether it rains or not. And someday, they will have to.
This spate of apocalyptic pronouncements, from the federal science bureaucracy and the concomitant hysteria from its sycophants in the media and academics, is all designed to prepare us for a finger-wagging sermon. From whom? From the puppet who occupies the Office of the President of the United States, who will stand before the Congress and intone dire warnings lest we sin against the Planet and ignore the demon of Climate Change.
The Senators and Representatives of the puppet’s own party are beginning to have qualms, as they face an electorate increasingly frustrated with incessant tirades about ‘race’ and ‘climate’ instead of dealing with real problems, like the Islam-Nazis, destruction of health insurance, illegal immigration, lack of jobs, and ‘leading from behind’. So maybe the Democrats in Congress will nod approvingly, but join with the new Republican majorities in ignoring this ersatz President, and passing legislation to rein in the EPA and other agencies that stifle innovation, progress, and economic growth.
Maybe. One can hope. But it would really help if a few leaders of national stature, both in politics and in the sciences, would stand up and decry this administration’s insane march into the arms of the ‘green’ zealots and ideologues who plainly wish to dominate the world order. It wouldn’t hurt if a few so-called ‘journalists’ finally find the courage to speak up as well. Time for reporters to come forth.
/Mr Lynn
Thank you Paul, a very interesting read. Off topic slightly I have just watched a video on you tube about the Endangered Species petitions raised by an organisation called the Centre for Biological Diversity in the US, paid for by the US tax payer. It seems you can have the potential to shut whole industries down under the umbrella of CO2 is bad model even if there is not the science to support such petitions.
Julian: You have two very good recent examples of how this works. First, if the international polar bear group can fudge population numbers, and convince the U.S. government and/or the UN to declare pollies “endangered” ,all development would be stopped in the circumpolar arctic. Polar bears are spread throughout the arctic and sub-arctic areas. Read Susan Crockford’s recent articles (here on WUWT and at her website). Second, follow the recent push to have the Greater Sage Grouse declared an endangered species in the western U.S. and Canada. If this succeeds, large areas of the Utah-Alberta region will be off limits to development. The Endangered Species Act is a powerful international tool that can be used for political purposes rather than the intended purpose of protecting species that really need protection. Don’t think for a minute that NASA/NOAA and the EPA are the only agencies involved; add the USFWS (fish and wildlife), BLM (land management), DOI (interior), NFS (forest service), NPS (parks) and others. Fiction? Hardly: read the history of the spotted owl.
Thank you Dr Rounds I have read Susan Crockfords work with interest about Polar bears. I have also been looking at the Centre for Biological Diversity which seems to consist of attorneys. Its disconcerting how much power these people wield.
When you think about it with 65 percent of US reporting stations not cat. 2 or better and who knows how good the rest of the world are, I guess they have to lie or do something.
Lying to the voters doesn’t seem to work so well. Never in my memory have the political fortunes of these environmental fear mongers fallen so low. Everyone one on both sides of the issue knows the proponents of environmental catastrophe are not honest. No one trusts them to tell the truth. That’s why global warming comes in dead last in polls ranking serious voter concerns. Voters still care about the environment. But they know dishonesty when they see it. Its like, “if you like your health insurance you can keep it”. Its not true. Obama will cost the Democrats more seats if he keeps it up. We don’t appreciate or understand how skeptics have completely routed AGW arguments. It now just a matter of time. Their edifice of deceit is headed for catastrophic collapse. Election results tell me their jig is up.
‘Lying to the voters doesn’t seem to work so well.’
And yet we get politicians.
willybamboo,
I wish you were correct.
What I see is that the climate obsessed are not pulling back at all. That their politics are not moderating much less failing. I do not see one academic group disavowing the deceptive practices. I do not see one religious leader talking about the dangers of making climate a false idol.
WillyBamboo
“Never in my memory have the political fortunes of these environmental fear mongers fallen so low.”
Hello Willy from Australia and an even Bigger Hello to The UN from the people of the World is happening at a UN website.
This is the ‘My World 2015 UN survey. Vote For The World You Want To See’
It offers people 16 options regarding Education, Jobs, Health.Transport, Political freedoms and Others. This survey is to continue until (I believe) September of this year. The vote is open to all. You can choose 6 of the sixteen to tick
The current standing of some 7 million plus votes has Action on Climate Change running a spectacular stone motherless LAST some 300,000 behind Access to a Phone and Internet Connection. The major contributors to the survey are coming from the less developed nations like Nigeria, Mexico, Pakistan and India and they are, not surprisingly, voting for the things that benefit us all such as education, jobs, health, good food and honest government in droves. The current standings can be found at My World UN 2015 Analytics and is worth citing any time you debate the Alarmarama populace regarding what people all around the World want. The UN must be seething.
Another issue, Willy, that I shall be bringing up with The CAGW and Green Lot is the declaration of India Prime Minister Modi Last November that 2015 is to be the year of Health and Cleanliness with a focus on getting toilets into schools.
Evidently tens of millions of Indian kids go to schools which do not have toilet facilities. This is a Big problem for all but for girls going through puberty changes it is a major, major issue so they stay away and miss out again.
The Pope and John Kerry really need to rethink their priorities and my Green friends still wonder why i am so scathing of their pamper and privilege and their faux concerns over a trace gas and a temperature rise of about .85c over 135 years yet millions of kids, if they have access to school, do not have a toilet to use. They go outside in secluded areas and it doesn’t take much imagination to think of the terrible health issues
.
In Melbourne we have the ‘WE Can’t Wait’ group set up by Rotarian Mark Balla and supported by Australia and Indian Rotary. ( of which I am not a member). How about we challenge every Green and/or Cagw member to find a local charity and donate, not just talk about it and prove how wonderful thay are just by talking about it
Also point out that it is an absolute disgrace that we give billions each year in Climate goodies to the ‘Science that is settled’ and inefficient renewables that cannot run a minor town let alone a major city yet Indian kids, and others in poor countries, cannot access a bloody Dunny or Loo or Outhouse!!!
As always keep challenging their dodgy data and lay on the mocking and the satire at every opportunity. Lay it on with a trowel.
As Aussie blogger Michael has noted ‘ Climate data is to Science as Homeopathy is to Medicine’
Cheers to ya Willy and all.
“great cataclysm” – great catechism?
CAGW has, for all intents and purposes, been disconfirmed.
None of CAGW’s projections are coming even close to matching reality and the discrepancies are increasing on a monthly basis.
Perhaps a statistician will argue 30 yrs of data discrepancies are required to officially disconfirm a hypothesis with 95% certainty, but CAGW should never have been a serious hypothesis requiring disconfirmation to begin with.
CAGW is more a process of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, than a process of the Scientific Method and honest inquiry..
Historians will not treat this generation well for governments wasting so many $trillions and further impoverishing billions of people for almost half a century for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
It’s time for this silliness to end. Stick a fork in it, this turkey is done.
The personal disappointment in witnessing a Jesuit Pope fall into common cause with climate/environmental kooks is profound.
Hard to think of a more convincing promoter of secularism than organized faith trying to high-jack democracy. Doesn’t matter which religion is in question and there is currently more than one at it.
Crazy Idea! Why doesn’t the EPA help exploring for and extracting as clean as possible cheap available oil and natural gas. Instead of an antagonist agency, how about a helpful one seeing as we do pay for it an all.
Add Driessen to the merchants of smear! I agree with virtually everything Driessen says about the pitiful state of climate science. There is a reason it is that way. Smearing and vilifying Obama neither identifies that reason nor makes it more likely we can advance understanding beyond dumb.
The reason Obama and probably any other Republican or Democrat presidential nominee in the past 20+ years- Dole, G.W. Bush, Romney, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama- would (or did) promote the AGW line is because virtually every scientific society in the world has endorsed it. To smear someone, especially anyone who is not a climate scientist, because they endorse and promote the view of the world’s scientific societies is so dumb and counterproductive that it makes me despair that we climate realists/skeptics/lukewarmers will be able to advance climate science understanding anytime soon. There is no justification for smearing others, and it accomplishes nothing.
We- and especially climate scientists themselves- need to confront the the over-simplifications, the misleading (even when partly true) statements about trends, and the propaganda that passes for climate science. I am hopeful that the American Physics Society-
see http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/climate-review.cfm
is courageous enough to do this, but the intemperate and uncivil approach shown by Driessen and so many others makes their job so much harder. With friends like Driessen, we don’t need enemies.
Johnny Goober.
Doug Allen: What you say may be more or less true of some of the past candidates, who rely on subordinates to tell them what the ‘correct’ or politically-expedient line is to take. So you had Newt Gingrich, against his better judgment (as he admitted later), sitting for a ‘climate change’ commercial with Nancy Pelosi. I remember writing to Mitt Romney in 2008, offering to write speeches on the ‘global warming’ hoax. But I never received a reply. Mitt is an admirable fellow, but he had endorsed a northeast-states ‘greenhouse’ initiative as governor, and he was likely trapped in the ‘conventional wisdom’. Of course, had he been a less timid candidate on many fronts, he might have defeated the feckless Obama, but it was not to be.
But others, particularly the far-left Democrats like Gore and Obama, and latterly Kerry the Fool, are adhering to a political agenda that has made the Warmist dogma a cornerstone of their politics, partly because they are heavily indebted to and allied with the extreme enviro-fascist ideologues, and partly because it fits in with their socialist desires.
In my view these would-be tyrants deserve all the opprobrium that Paul Driessen hands them, and more. That the erstwhile ‘scientific societies’ have thrown in with the Climatist miscreants is nothing less than a stain on the scientific enterprise that will take generations to erase, if it ever can be. Time for new societies, dedicated to objectivity, not to ideology. And way past time for more courageous politicians.
/Mr Lynn
Mr. Lynn,
The odds are more of the same- Clinton, Bush, or Romney as our next president! Unfortunately, courageous politicians are few indeed. That’s not how you get elected. You, a little more than Driessen, try to bring the discussion from culture war back to climate science, but your “would be dictators”,” enviro-fascist ideologues”, “climatist miscreants” are just more smears and bashing that are unproductive, no counterproductive. For those who think the “they” deserve the opprobrium that Paul Driessen hands them let me ask. How well has this strategy worked all these years? The climate science wars are wars of partial truths camouflaged as the truth- far too subtle for most journalists and politicians to understand, and- THIS IS WORTH SHOUTING- you and Driessen with your scorched earth invective are part of the problem. You keep the discussion exactly where it is unproductive, in the arena of politics where very few can be objective and where falsifiable hypotheses are as rare as courageous politicians.
How many have tried to discuss climate science with their liberal friends and hit their head continually against the “academy of sciences wall”? Sure, John Holdren is a terrible Erlichesque choice for science adviser and Gore/Kerry are legitimate targets for criticism, but ad hominem and smear weaken one’s case and result in the dysfunctional politics and climate science we are burdened with. The problem is not politicians, but the worldwide academies of science. We know some of the reasons those science academies support the AGW or CAGW meme- funding, etc. HOWEVER, another reason is that so many of the climate realists/skeptics/lukewarmers are self-righteous firebrands who would rather burn bridges and smear political opponents than discuss science.. Scientific societies, despite all their faults and because of them, will choose not to be associated with the diatribes of a Paul Driessen. This loosing strategy of smear is part of the problem (on both sides) and not part of the solution. Let’s bring the discussion back to climate science and be a little more generous in trying to understand others points of view and a lot more civil in describing them.
Doug Allen writes,
Your desire to confine the climate debate to the science, and in particular to “falsifiable hypotheses” (the very essence of science), and to get the politics out of it, is laudable. But the “global warming” scare has never really been about science, any more than Lysenkoism was in Stalin’s Soviet Union. Not only does the present religious fervor of the Climatists demonstrate the unscientific nature of their claims, as the eminent Vaclav Kaus described in 2007,
but the history of the movement makes it entirely plain:
The ideology was born in the apocalyptic fear-mongering of writers like John Erlich and The Club of Rome. Marjorie Mazel Hecht traces it to a conference organized by Margaret Mead:
“Where the Global Warming Hoax Was Born”
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/GWHoaxBorn.pdf
Richard Courtney has described the British side in “The History of the Global Warming Scare”:
https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/09/12/richard-courtney-the-history-of-the-global-warming-scare/
See also:
John Brignell: “Global Warming as Religion and not Science”
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/religion.htm
Larry Bell:” The U.N.’s Global Warming War On Capitalism: An Important History Lesson”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war-on- capitalism-an-important-history-lesson-2/
Craig Idso, S. Fred Singer: Climate Change Reconsidered
From the 2009 Report of the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC), The Heartland Institute
And, of course, read all the dire quotes at The Green Agenda,
http://www.green-agenda.com/index.html
I expect all these links will send this to moderation; my apologies.
/Mr Lynn
Actually I think it is FEAR. The warmers are terrified their science won’t hold up, hence the prophecies of immediate doom. They are terrified their funding will run out, hence the attacks on everyone that challenges their claim. They fear that they might actually be right, and the world is coming to an end. And finally their fear that they might get caught with their hand in the till and on the lever.
Nothing is more dangerous than something fighting for its life.
AGW has just about run its course, of course it will take something unforeseen to actually end the hysteria, but it always ends.
Gengis– I agree.
My guess is that in 5 years, the discrepancies between CAGW projections vs. reality will be around 3 standard deviations. When this level of disparity is crossed, I think the scientific community (outside the pro-CAGW community) will be so embarrassed by the CAGW hypothesis that a flood of whistle-blowers will express profound skepticism of the CAGW hypothesis.
In five years: 1) the 30-yr PDO cool cycle (which started in 2005) will be near its coolest point, 2) the AMO will be close to switching over to its 30-yr cool cycle, 3) the current solar cycle will be at its minimum, 4) and the next solar (starting around 2021) is expected to be the weakest since 1715 and 5) (Wild Card) There is an excellent chance a large volcanic event could occur within the next 5 years.
The combination of all these natural cooling factors all happening concurrently will likely cause some seriously cold events….
We’ll see soon enough.
SMEAR and FEAR- Agree that the data will eventually trump the model projections/CAGW fear-mongering, but I was optimistic 5 and 10 years ago that this would happen within the next 5 years! It’s likely that, despite whatever the contribution of the solar cycle, the PDO forced cooling will diminish as we approach 2030. Perhaps the AMO will continue to mask whatever little warming is caused by increased GHG. Maybe. It’s just as likely or more likely, I think, that beginning around 2030 we’ll have another 0.4 C spurt in global temperatures as we had from 1915- 1942 and again from 1978- 1998.
IF the climate wars continue until 2030, the CAGW cheerleaders and their scientists will then again be in a strong position to continue the model projection/CAGW fear-mongering, The Driessen smear and the CAGW fear are both non-scientific substitutes for understanding and guaranteed to keep climate science a prisoner of politics.
The better alternative is to always point journalists, politicians (and especially their staff), and the blogosphere to the the science. That’s why I’m cautiously optimistic about the forthcoming American Physics Society report-
see http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/climate-review.cfm
Watts and Curry (and anyone who refers to the science) are helpful critics.
I know the anguish of being defamed by the other side and being compared to holocaust deniers. I know it well. Our anger and our hurt is justified. But please don’t lash out in anger. It’s counter-productive. The Driessen type smears are a threat to the possibility of scientific academies re-addressing their skewed and inflated climate science evaluations.