'Weather Porn' – The latest smear attack on TV Meteorologists who don't kowtow to 'global warming'

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Andrew Tyndall, news consultant: If you don’t tie every event to climate change when reporting the weather, its like pornography

Andrew Tyndall, described as a news consultant, has accused Ginger Zee, a qualified meteorologist and popular TV weather presenter, of producing “weather porn”.

According to Tyndall;

“If Ginger Zee reported in the role of climatologist rather than meteorologist, I would praise ABC’s ‘World News Tonight’s’ decision as a daring intervention into a crucial national and global debate,” he said. “Instead, she is more like a pornographer.”

http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/tv/article4446150.html#/tabPane=tabs-383c4c27-1

Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience.

Andrew Tyndall. Image: MediaITE

However, Patrick Burkey, Nightly News executive producer, spoke up in defence of the way weather is reported on TV.

“Weather coverage can drive ratings,” Burkey said, but “you have to be careful that you’re not covering weather stories that aren’t real news every night. It’s an easy way to lose the trust of the audience about what is really an important weather story.”

Who knows – when climate alarmists find something interesting to say, rather than rehashing the same tired fear mongering nonsense every time they speak, their views might get a little more airtime.

 

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141 thoughts on “'Weather Porn' – The latest smear attack on TV Meteorologists who don't kowtow to 'global warming'

  1. In a older, more correct world, Ginger Zee’s partner would give the creep Tyndall a thick lip to the applause of decent folk

  2. If I understand this properly they’re complaining that too much time is being spent on weather reporting. Am I right? Get a life! My understanding is people watch what they prefer and ratings have nothing to do with importance and everything to do with choice.

    • It isn’t about choice, it’s about weather reporting. The complaint is that the weather reporter has been reporting weather. The argument is that the weather reporter shouldn’t be reporting weather, but should be reporting something which has frequently been explicitly stated not to be weather.

      • Yes, If weather is not perceived by the public as been caused by antroproghenic causes this undermines the political decided UNFCCC and The Political Plan behind it.

    • They don’t mind all the air time for weather disaster. They’re complaining that all that coverage is leaving out the all-important connection to CAGW. “You’re not telling the story riiight!”

    • Well people do have a choice of what is offered by the media, and in particular the major networks. So we get a choice of what they want to show us.
      I for example, do not want to watch three or five old sports has beens, sit around a fancy table, and natter idly about something that happened in a game years ago. I do not want to watch a college football game, that might have taken place 12 years ago, that is presented as “live” coverage.
      Nor do I need 500 channels of shop at home, which is what my TV source provider offers.
      When it comes to news coverage, I do not need to watch “live” TV coverage of something that happened last week, and that I have already heard repeated at least a dozen times on my radio, before I even get out of bed in the morning.
      And if all of the “news”papers that I can find at my news stand, simply rehash junk they get from UPI or the NYT or LAT, or some other news canning outlet, why do I need them. If I want to read an NYT story (I don’t), I can read it in the NYT. I don’t need so buy the SJ Murky “news” to get the same story from the same source.
      News on dead tree is so out of touch with reality, and few of the papers even have reporters any more to go out and get real news, that we haven’t all heard.
      I’ve heard several days of news stories from all over the planet, regarding the recent assassination of two NYPD officers. I haven’t heard a single one yet, that has mentioned the skin color of the assassin, or the victims. Not that it matters to me; that all became irrelevant by the time I was six years old.
      But It is in sharp contrast with earlier news reports, where the only thing that WAS reported in the stories, was skin color. Seems like an inconsistency somewhere in our “right to know” watchdogs. who seem to be more like alley curs, than watch dogs.
      Yes we get a choice of what they choose to show us or tell us.

      • I am currently reading Stonewalled by Sharyl Attkisson. She states the reason for so much weather on tv is that it is “safe” – you cannot offend an advertiser (corporate partner) or the administration so “weather” is being used to pad the new.
        Besides I thought that it was “just weather” if it contradicted the CAGW alarmism (eg record snowfall in the middle of summer in the australian alps – and there they were predicting the “end of snow” in Australia)

  3. Burkey knows his audience. Tyndall is a fool grasping for something that will strike fear into the populace. He sees his charade slipping through his fingers. In that he is right. You cannot live constantly in fear, yet that is what he wants.

    • Indeed it is a charade. For years they told us that the climate is not the same as the weather. For years some climatologists, media outlets, environmental groups and METEOROLOGICAL outlets engaged in ‘climate porn’ and some idiot now wish to turn the tables i.e you are engaged in ‘weather porn’ because you do not engage in ‘climate porn’. Is this called self projection? 😉
      [My bolding throughout]

      BBC – 2 August 2006
      Media attacked for ‘climate porn’
      By Richard Black
      Apocalyptic visions of climate change used by newspapers, environmental groups and the UK government amount to “climate porn”, a think-tank says.
      The report from the Labour-leaning Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) says over-use of alarming images is a “counsel of despair”…….
      ==========
      Guardian – 3 August 2006
      Simon Retallack
      The problem with climate porn
      The media’s doom-laden depictions of climate change are distancing the public from the problem.
      …..Climate change is most commonly constructed through the alarmist repertoire, as awesome, terrible, immense and beyond human control. It is described, using an inflated or extreme lexicon, a quasi-religious register of death, as being accelerating and irreversible…..
      ==========
      TIME – 14 July 2014
      Global Warming Is Coming, but Climate Hysteria Doesn’t Help Anyone
      The Guardian’s dire report of a climate-change catastrophe unfolding in Miami is a case of premature evacuation
      ……..I’ve described South Beach as the canary in America’s coal mine for climate change, and the canary has started coughing a bit, but it isn’t dead or even very sick. I’m sorry to spoil the climate porn, but while the periodic puddles in my Whole Foods parking lot are harbingers of a potentially catastrophic future, they are not currently catastrophic……

      If you want to see examples of heavy duty climate porn just type in Guardian climate change into Google and visit the Guardian page. It is a relentless deluge of vomit and alarmism.

      • In 2010 the UK’s media regulator OFCOM investigated climate porn.

        24 Feb 2010
        Ofcom probes TV climate porn
        But too late to save Drowning Dog
        Ofcom is to investigate the Government’s notoriously emotive ‘Drowning Dog’ prime time TV advertisements. Ad industry self-regulator the ASA is already conducting its own investigation of the ‘climate porn’ campaign.
        http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/ofcom_drowning_dog_probe/

        Various groups have been engaged in ‘climate porn’ over the years but now some want to turn the tables. Viewers have had enough of this sh!t and maybe that’s why some media outlets have decided to report the weather. TV outlets probably took a close look at what happens to viewing figures during ‘climate change’ stories. I can’t find the article but I once read they tanked.

  4. Tyndall is complaining that they are covering too many weather “disasters”????…
    …seems that would play right into the “climate change causes everything” meme………..

    • For years they told us the meteorologists were not climastrologists and were not qualified enough to be taken seriously on matters of climate. Now a qualified ‘news consultant’ (Andrew Tyndall) tells us that they can and should – as long as they BELIEVE in CAGW. Oh boy!
      The irony is in his name.

      2006
      Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research
      Tyndall Working Paper
      Is this climate porn? How does climate change communication affect our perceptions and behaviour?
      [Full PDF version]

      • Jimbo,
        You are right about the qualification thing, that is what they said. But this porny stuff from Andrew T is not changing anything. The claim broadcasters should be promoting climate alarm is not because they are knowledgeable enough to work it out for themselves. No, no. They should just do as they are told. Believing the stuff isn’t important. Salvation from CO2 comes because of their sacrifice at the hands of ‘deniers’, not because of anyone’s beliefs in their prophecies.
        The religious parallel is unavoidable. There are those who know with their Gnostic Texts and secret cabals, then us who should obey and in our obedience, tell the ignorant flock what the all-knowing have deemed, in their wisdom, to reveal.
        Andrew T is stirring for the insiders.
        Isn’t it true that we had a review here some time back about what weather broadcasters (if that is the right term) though about CAGW? Wasn’t it that they were heavily, like 80%, disinclined to accept the alarm was legit? Seems about right.

  5. More than a hint of sexism from this bloke. He obviously confuses weather and climate so perhaps he can’t distinguish between an empty head pretty girl and a qualified meteorologist.

    • Indeed. Where are my victims? Where are my refuges? Where are my 20 meter waves and my drowning cities? Where are my hunger riots? I was promised so much, not just you Mr Obama, I too was promised these things. It’s just sexist.

  6. Hey, Ginger Zee hiked up Mount Washington to see the weather there first hand. Thumbs up from me. News directors on the other hand? I’ve heard TV Mets say some (justifiably) unnice things about them.

  7. What exactly is a “News Consultant”?
    Say what?
    Either it is factual news or it is opinionated rubbish.
    So this obscene twit is a propagandist?
    What and who consults this guru of spin?
    Whats his line?
    “Who you gonna trust, me or your lying eyes?”
    Secondly who gives empty posers like that “gentleman” air time?

  8. Andrew Tindall wants to the boss of Ginger Zee? Why is he telling her among all meteorologists what to do? Is he trying to slut-shame her? Is he reinforcing the kind of culture that feminists have been denouncing? Comic possibilities.

  9. Possibly Tyndall projects his own liking of porn to weather … what’s this … has he got some fetish with beautiful meteorologists and his porn addiction?

  10. Giving the viewers the choice between watching and listening to Tyndall or Zee…
    97% would choose Zee ….(8>))…

  11. #waronwomen, where the left is constantly faking-up cases of its political opponents mistreating women while constantly perpetrating actual mistreatment of women who don’t adhere to leftist ideologies.

      • Thank you philincalifiornia.
        Hypocrisy is a useful charge to make as it is hard to defend against – “Well, he would say that and he doesn’t believe it,”. But useful is a justification for sophism not truth-seeking.
        A charge of hypocrisy destroys debate and leads to Groupthink – and eventually being lost in one’s own prejudices.
        Fen’s Law is not a lazy Ad Hom (avoiding thought) but a cynical Ad Hom (discouraging thought).

      • Thank you, MCourtney
        But useful is a justification for sophism not truth-seeking……
        Def. sophism – noun 1. a specious argument for displaying ingenuity in reasoning or for deceiving someone.
        Definition… and your example of a specious argument, with an ingenious embedded ad hom attack. Really. Implying phil was not honest….Ingenuity in ‘reasoning’, indeed! But, fear not. You and no one else will stifle debate on these pages.
        Merry Christmas! And a Joyful New Year to you!

  12. But obviously is not war on women or misogyny, because Holy Socialist Liberal Narrative Uber Alles.
    You are obviously mistaken. This is all Bush’s fault and racist. :/

  13. So observing and reporting the actual weather, instead of repeating party-line propaganda, is considered porn in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall? I bet he feels the same way about observable facts versus climate models. He has it backwards. The alarmists and their climate models are the pornography producing whores. They devote themselves to trying to get a rise out of temperatures in return for money.

  14. So Tyndall channel surfs looking for his preferred porn then? 😉
    Or is he like those devout Christians who go to movies so that they can be offended amd demand that the rest of us never go to see them?

  15. Climate realists are winning out over climate alarmists as the world wises up to the difference between logic and ideological hogwash.

  16. Well, to be fair, weather reporting is very similar to porn.
    It is available on the internet for free, from all over the world, there’s more of it than any one person can watch in a lifetime, and watching it is nothing like being there.

  17. Climate Corollary to Godwin’s Law
    The probability that the cause of ANY weather event is attributed in whole or in part to ‘Climate Change’ approaches one within 48 hours of said weather event.

  18. Most if not all of the readers and contributors to this site are smarter than i , consequently i doubt i can bring any new thought to the subject. I could not however let this item go by without adding my comments. This character is beneath contempt, a creep on every level.

  19. Note: I’ve got a daughter who is about Ginger’s age. I’ve watched Ginger on Chicago TV, where she served as an excellent local meteorologist, and cheered for her when she reached the national stage.
    I will happily volunteer to give Mr. Tyndall his fat lip, or worse.

  20. So… this “consultant” thinks that a highly successful weather reporter should start covering climate change more.
    You know, like the Weather Channel did.
    Which is why their ratings eroded so badly.
    Apparently, he thinks TV shows should do things that make their ratings drop substantially, because, er…

  21. Tyndall’s comment is extremely crude and totally unwarranted. Seems to me that he owes Ginger ZEE an apology.

  22. A quote by media historian Stewart Ewen:

    When you start using symbols that have been separated from their meaning and have taken on a life of their own, the facts don’t matter anymore.

    • “Naked people reporting the weather?”
      If they are, maybe they can get Tyndall to do the reporting.
      I’ll stick with Zee.

  23. Bullying the weather girls into become CAGW mouthpieces. Now that is what I call classy.

  24. Pornography “The representation in books, magazines, photographs, films, and other media of scenes of sexual behavior that are erotic or lewd and are designed to arouse sexual interest.”
    Hmmm…I wonder if Andrew Tyndall, who judging from his picture is a bit past it, gets sexually aroused when he sees Ginger Zee? Or when she reads thew weather? Or only when she fails to tie in weather with climate change?
    He has a unique fetish, that can only be diagnosed if he comes clean, pardon the pun.

    • It’s still early, anyone else you want to disparage ?
      You might want to start a blog, it will give you free rein.

      • Just in the interest of science. In the interest of science. Wondering what he finds pornographic about Ginger Zee.
        Then again he doesn’t say whether he likes pornography or not. Judging from the fact he finds her pornographic and keeps watching her, I would say he has an addition at the very least.

      • Yep Silver ralph, definitely with an e. I made a typo too addition instead of “addiction” so that makes u.k.(us), who has leaped (sprung, shot up) to Andrew Tyndall’s defence, and me even.

    • Always seems the biggest “Anti-anythings” tend to be closet “Pro-anythings”. Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart come to mind, along with most of the Victorian Age.

  25. Eric, I usually like your stuff but you seem to have missed the whole point of the linked article.
    Which is that weather is not getting any worse, it is just that we are seeing a helluva lot more time devoted to reporting on it every day.
    My first post on this disappeared. I would be very didappointed if it transpired that authors at WUWT are moderating out legitimate criticisms from sympathetic readers.

    • Did you read this in the article?…”and they’re rarely used in context of a discussion about climate change, Tyndall said.”

      • markl on December 20, 2014 at 9:27 pm says: Did you read this in the article?
        Hi markl. In more context he says of the over enthusiastic, often irrelevant to the target audience coverage:

        Almin Karamehmedovic, executive producer of “World News Tonight.” “Increasingly, we see it that way. I’m sure the weather is the same as it was 10 years ago, but we see much more of it.”….
        …. The concern is that…. .. the amount of time spent on weather and natural disaster stories… .. has more than quadrupled since the early 1990s…..
        … video makes weather stories catnip to producers, irresistible even with limited news value, said Patrick Burkey, “Nightly News” executive producer.
        …… Others use a more blunt term: weather porn. The extra time spent on these stories can’t be explained by an increased frequency of or interest in bad weather, and they’re rarely used in context of a discussion about climate change, Tyndall said.

        The last few words there about climate change do not necessarily convey much ofTyndall’s opinion on climate change and have liitle to do with the main premise of the story: That the excess and exaggerated cover is simply for viewer titillation.
        The whloe point of the article is that the excess focus on weather events serves little discernable purpose other than ratings and time padding, and has no discernable benefits whatsoever.
        Eric is drawing a very long bow trying to portray this as climate change story and Tyndal’s statement as a ‘nil AGW coverage’ = porn statement.

      • “The last few words there about climate change do not necessarily convey much ofTyndall’s opinion on climate change and have liitle to do with the main premise of the story: That the excess and exaggerated cover is simply for viewer titillation.

        Whether it is the main premise of the story is irrelevant. Tyndel clearly states that increased weather reporting is only valid if tied to climate change. That is an opinion on climate change, otherwise why mention it. He could have just said, there is too much puffed-up weather reporting, which btw I agree with.

        The whloe point of the article is that the excess focus on weather events serves little discernable purpose other than ratings and time padding, and has no discernable benefits whatsoever.”

        I think you could say this about much of the news. News is entertainment geared toward getting ratings, in order to get advertiser revenue. There is public service mixed in, but it is no longer the primary driver.

    • Tyndall’s own words;
      If Ginger Zee reported in the role of climatologist rather than meteorologist, I would praise ABC’s ‘World News Tonight’s’ decision as a daring intervention into a crucial national and global debate,” he said. “Instead, she is more like a pornographer.
      Seems pretty clear to me.

  26. The hashtags #cloudporn #weatherporn and others similar are widely used in Instagram and other social media as humorous ways to describe cloud or weather-related eye-candy images, dramatic and colorful photos of clouds, storms systems, tornadoes etc. There is nothing sexual about it at all.
    The writer of the story seemed to be making the simple point that there is a lot more coverage of local weather events in the national news than there used to be. Viewers apparently like it and the networks are keen on getting good ratings.

    • see also this blog post by Lawrence Camera:
      “For those seeing the term cloudporn for the first time, let me explain. It’s one of countless hashtags people use on social networking sites such as Tumblr, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Hashtags provide a simple way to label what you share online, kind of like connecting your stuff to a worldwide index. Take a beautiful photograph of clouds, post it on your social networks, caption it with #cloudporn, and voila: People who dig really cool photographs of clouds can now find yours, by searching for anything hashtagged cloudporn.”
      http://lawrencecamera.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/cloudporn-photography/

  27. Confused by this story- sorry just not intelligent enough to ‘get it’ not coming from a US background – could be interpreted very differently – await confirmation

  28. No it is ok…let her report weather event in persective of climate…
    Is this event out of normality?
    is this snow storm not normal?
    this hurricane, this drought , rainfalls, winds etc…
    The result will be :”we can not attibute this weather event to climate change”…

  29. OK, I’ve been a good sport, had my fun in the comments.
    Now, can anyone tell me what we’ve been going on about, I never watch broadcast tv weather, seeing as I have an internet connection.

  30. another smear attack!
    21 Dec: Sydney Morning Herald: Nick O’Malley: Warming world’s rising seas wash away some of South Florida’s glitz
    What was not so widely reported was that South Beach stank of shit. There is no nice way to put it. The place smelled of human waste. There had been a brief, heavy downpour but the water could not escape, so the sewers backed up and filled the roads…
    A couple of days later I stood on a sealed road in a park in the southern suburbs of Miami – again ankle deep in water – with Harold Wanless, chairman and professor at the Department of Geological Sciences at the University of Miami, to discuss why the place was so wet. The answer was not complicated. “The ocean has risen,” he says with laugh. “It is what it is.”…
    While much of the nation argues about whether or not California’s once-in-a-thousand-year drought or the $US71 billion devastation of Hurricane Sandy might have been caused or exacerbated by climate change – or indeed whether or not the phenomenon even exists – in Southern Florida today you wander about in the water and see what it looks like when rising seas hit a modern western city.
    As with every other serious issue facing the United States, the acceptance of climate science has fallen down along partisan lines.
    It is generally accepted among leading Democrats and often denied – or at least ignored – by Republicans…
    Back in America there are some signs that popular concern about climate change is beginning to increase.
    A 2014 poll by the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication shows majorities of women, minorities and young people support candidates who strongly endorse climate action, the New York Times reported earlier this week. “That poll found that 65 percent of Hispanics, 53 percent of blacks and 53 percent of unmarried women support candidates who back climate-change action.”
    As the Times noted, those were all groups crucial to the outcomes of the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections…
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/warming-worlds-rising-seas-wash-away-some-of-south-floridas-glitz-20141220-129wub.html
    & sydney-based journo Paul Wallis spreads the smear in digital journal:
    20 Dec: Digital Journal: Paul Wallis: Op-Ed: Climate change denial wading in sewage in Miami
    Miami- It doesn’t NEED to get much more bizarre than this. High water in Miami caused sewers to back up in America’s Retirement and Organized Crime Mecca. The local governor, a Republican, of course, says there’s no problem.
    Sydney Morning Herald reporter Nick O’Malley has a truly hilarious report on the solemn denial of any environmental issues related to the long-predicted high water in Miami. It would be a real shame and insult to the guy’s journalistic chutzpah to synopsize a great article, which you can read on this link…
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/environment/op-ed-climate-change-denial-wading-in-sewage-in-miami/article/421580

    • The oceans have been rising for millennia. Miami is sinking from over building and other factors. The trend in Miami is to build as close to the water as possible. This isn’t ‘climate change’, it’s man’s stupidity. It’s unresearched factoids like this that are making people understand they’ve been duped by AGW.

  31. If possible, I watch only the weather on the local news because most of what else is reported is not news but left-leaning fluff or outright advocacy of left-wing positions. The weather (at least the gentleman I watch) is, so far, blessedly free of that. Yes, the weathercast is longer than it need be: we need not learn the current temperature of every hamlet between D.C. and Raleigh, and the “hour-by-hour forecast” is vital only on those days when a change is expected (the infamous derecho in summer 2012 was a good example where “hour-by-hour” might actually have been a bit slow). But believe me, rather than get sick with anger at hearing the other “newscasters” prating their good-Democrat propaganda and feel-good nonsense, I’ll turn over to Judge Judy, who is at least interesting and largely apolitical. My work here–when I can get outside to do it–depends immediately and intimately on the weather: I can’t weed or dig when it is too wet, cold, hot, or windy, and it is useful to have the best data and forecasts that the local weatherman can supply (much more trustworthy than TWC or even the new weather channel for local conditions and events).

  32. Obviously a man who confuses climate with weather and an attractive woman with pornography should not be listened to.
    Our wonderful BBC weather announcers manage to find the warmest cities when reporting nationwide temperatures, usually London, and the West of the country. Newcastle upon Tyne (where I live) barely gets a mention.

  33. I’m not a meteorologist or a climatologist. I’m a driver of a van in hot shot freight. So– my “scientific” base is shaky at best.
    When I follow the weather, I’m not the least bit interested in climate fear-mongering. It’s not the least interest to me that we might have terrible floods 50 years from now. On the other hand, tonight I have a trip coming up from Chicago’s big airport going to Traverse City, Michigan. You better believe I’m looking at the reports and radars to see if I’m likely to run into lake-effect snow on the way there and back. Right now, the radars look clear (I’ve checked) but tonight calls for flurries and it probably changes to rain here in Chicago tomorrow. What it’ll do on the East side of Lake Michigan– I have’t seen yet,
    About the other thing: I’ve heard the “weather is not climate” thing so often when debating this subject that it’s not funny. I stick my nose out the door and get it froze off on a below-zero day and report that– “Climate is not weather– the climate is getting warmer!” Report average temps during the summer– it’s been awhile since we got a real stinker of a hot day– and “Climate is not weather– the climate is getting warmer, and it’s warmer now than it’s ever been!” Really? I’ve been around 59 years, and I can remember warmer summers without scratching my head. Wild guess says we’ve had warmer summers before my time—“warmer than it’s ever been” is a real long time you know, not just the past couple of years.
    So— let’s see what the weather-porn star– who in this case is strangely enough a male– has to say about local weather, shall we? But, don’t tell my pastor, he has this “thing” about porn being a sin you know.

    • I live 12 miles west of Traverse City, the roads are in great shape, U.S.31, is dry as a bone. Some of the county roads have slick spots in the shady areas. For what it’s worth The Weather Channel is clueless about the micro-climates here, and TWC winter driving tips are beyond bizarre.

      • I checked— Traverse City is expecting flurries tonight, Ludington– which I have to pass both going out and coming back– is expecting flurries switching to rain tonight and tomorrow. Looks like I can save worries about lake-effect snow for another day. Northwest Indiana shouldn’t be bad tomorrow either, too warm for the snow-machine to kick in.
        That’s your “Lake Michigan Snow Report Porn” for today. 🙂

  34. He prefers “climate porn” to “weather porn”. That’s the trouble with using the word “porn” as an epithet meaning “that which has been over-exaggerated and hyped”. Plus, as in this case, you risk being viewed as sexist, and who knows, perhaps there is a latent misogynistic bent there.
    The irony is that he may have been correct in his criticism of how ABC News presents the weather, but for entirely the wrong reason. In fact, hyping climate change is far, far worse. Although, the way weather is hyped does lead people to think that “the weather is getting worse”.
    In any case, his attack on Ginger Zee was unwarranted and piggish. His beef is with ABC News, which he has criticized as being “disneyfied”.

  35. Tyndall’s thesis can be extended to news casts in general.
    “Tonight we first take you to the scene of a massive car bomb that killed …”
    “We now take you to a live broadcast where demonstrators have just stormed a police barricade…”
    “And turning to weather, meteorologists are tracking a massive storm that may develop just in time for Christmas…”
    “And in the sports world, athletes continue to behave badly…”
    “And finally tonight, a good-news story about a lost dog …”

  36. I tune in to the weather report to hear about the weather; what’s likely to happen over the next few days. I don’t need to tune in daily to hear about what they think is going to happen in decades or centuries from now!

  37. I can’t help but think that Tyndall’s model in life is: ‘Hi, I’m miserable, therefore you must be miserable. And, if you go watching Ginger Zee and you’re not miserable while you’re watching her, well then you must be made to feel miserable. Now, that may not transport any of my miserableness off of my shoulders and onto your’s but at least, if I glimpse you being as miserable as me, I will feel better about feeling miserable.’

  38. The Guardian’s dire report of a climate-change catastrophe unfolding in Miami is a case of premature evacuation

    I know that the Guardian is famous for making spelling mistakes, but really…
    Did the (sic) tag get missed off? 😉

  39. Anyway, I meant to add a bit more about the use of the word “porn” to mean anything which is hyped and exaggerated, either to bump up ratings or to push an ideology. It’s a double-edged sword, and actually becomes somewhat meaningless after a while. It is not unlike abuse of the N*zi word, really. I have been uncomfortable with the phrase “climate porn”, though I have used it myself in the past, and it seems it is a phrase that probably should be retired for use as an epithet, along with other words with sexual connotations like “pimp” or “prostitute”. They don’t really add anything to the conversation.

  40. He seems to think that all meteorologist who don’t follow in the footsteps of The Storm Channel aren’t qualified to report on the weather.

  41. Whatever next? Perhaps she should should give an Etruscan interpretation every time there is a thunderstorm.

  42. Nice to see that her boss backed her up by acknowledging that spewing alarmism causes a loss in trust. It has probably been three years since I have watched any network evening or morning news because the bs spewed by NBCs Brian Williams caused me to loose any trust in any news story on television.

    • “… the bs spewed by NBCs Brian Williams caused me to loose any trust in any news story on television”
      The Brian Williams did you a big favor by teaching you that the mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the state. Just like Pravda in the old USSR, you can not trust anything in the mainstream media at face value. The mainstream media has value only by reading between the lines.

    • They lost a lot of credibility with their BS Global Warming Hysteria “Special” a few years ago, when they forecast the dismal “future” of a fictitious American boy whose family had to abandon the flooding city of Miami. It went downhill into the Fifth Ring of alarmist Hell, from there.

  43. {bold emphasis mine – JW}
    David Bauder, AP Television Writer
    12/12/2014 10:49 AM / updated 12/12/2014 11:06 AM
    “Weather coverage can drive ratings,” Burkey [ NBC’s “Nightly News” executive producer] said, but “you have to be careful that you’re not covering weather stories that aren’t real news every night. It’s an easy way to lose the trust of the audience about what is really an important weather story.
    Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/tv/article4446150.html#/tabPane=tabs-383c4c27-1#storylink=cpy

    It seems someone high up in the MSM does care about losing trust in the audience. He should be held up as a role model for the industry in that regard. He should work on the lost of trust created by purposely biased scientists in support of structurally flawed IPCC assessment processes created to exclaim significant climate change whether it exists or not.
    Happy Holiday Season to all.
    John

  44. If you are defending meteorologists as professionals, why is there a crazy-eyed picture of Ms. Zee in this article? Seems disrespectful and contrary to the point you are trying to make.

  45. Maybe its too late, maybe my browser but, at the top of this thread I’m getting a picture of a wild haired, wild eyed woman seemingly wearing no clothes next to word ‘porn’
    It has got to be the most unflattering snapshot/thumbnail of an otherwise good looking girl that there ever was.
    Just a few words to that Tyndall (he’s nearly as creepy as Lewsandoxny)- “FFS man, get a life!”

  46. It looks like a photo selected by the same criteria media select presidential photos. If they’re on the same team, you capture a moment of thoughtful reflection. If they’re on the other team, you capture them about to sneeze, cough, yawn or expose their fifty year old bottom while hugging Bill Clinton in a bathing suit.

    • The picture is from Ginger Zee’s Wikipedia entry. I think someone as high profile as Ginger, its a safe bet that if she didn’t like that picture, Wikipedia would have replaced it with something else.

  47. Ginger Zee has a Bachelor of Science degree in meteorology while Andrew Tyndall has what science credentials? He should be asking her what her opinion is not dictating to her what her opinion should be.

  48. The author writes: “Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience.”
    That should read, “Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience–while being a cute girl.”
    Since she’s committed the cardinal sin of being smart and cute, he has to take her down a notch by dragging sex into it. Classic.

  49. Ginger Renee Zuidgeest (b 1981) has a bachelor’s degree in meteorology from Valparaiso University, where she is an adjunct professor.

    • I did hard time in TV. Can’t tell you how hard it is to be taken seriously as a woman. Didn’t bother me much and the female thing made it easier to get a job, but harder to to get the top job at a station. Thank God I left TV before Google and photoshop fakes and the total destruction of ratings and total loss of privacy. When I started in the late 80s, almost no women had met degrees. That has changed somewhat although it’s still a nerd-guy major.

  50. It’s an example of that old saying: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”. I suppose those who take umbrage at that are like the storm troopers of the Empire, etc.

    • Would those be the “only Imperial Troopers are this precise” Storm Troopers, or the “can’t hit the wall of a barn from inside” Storm Troopers?

  51. I would be classified as a sexist and/or a racist, if I chose Ms. Zee over Willard Scott or Al Roker….. and a misogynist if I don’t.
    Truth.
    THAT is the measure and duplicitous hypocrisy of the modern liberal sophist.

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