'Weather Porn' – The latest smear attack on TV Meteorologists who don't kowtow to 'global warming'

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Ginger Zee, is an American television personality. She is the current weather anchor for Good Morning America and ABC World News Tonight on ABC and before that was their weekend weather anchor. Zee is the weather editor for all of ABC News’ platforms. Image: Wikipedia

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Andrew Tyndall, news consultant: If you don’t tie every event to climate change when reporting the weather, its like pornography

Andrew Tyndall, described as a news consultant, has accused Ginger Zee, a qualified meteorologist and popular TV weather presenter, of producing “weather porn”.

According to Tyndall;

“If Ginger Zee reported in the role of climatologist rather than meteorologist, I would praise ABC’s ‘World News Tonight’s’ decision as a daring intervention into a crucial national and global debate,” he said. “Instead, she is more like a pornographer.”

http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/tv/article4446150.html#/tabPane=tabs-383c4c27-1

Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience.

Andrew Tyndall. Image: MediaITE

However, Patrick Burkey, Nightly News executive producer, spoke up in defence of the way weather is reported on TV.

“Weather coverage can drive ratings,” Burkey said, but “you have to be careful that you’re not covering weather stories that aren’t real news every night. It’s an easy way to lose the trust of the audience about what is really an important weather story.”

Who knows – when climate alarmists find something interesting to say, rather than rehashing the same tired fear mongering nonsense every time they speak, their views might get a little more airtime.

 

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cnxtim
December 20, 2014 5:09 pm

In a older, more correct world, Ginger Zee’s partner would give the creep Tyndall a thick lip to the applause of decent folk

Grumpy Guy
Reply to  cnxtim
December 20, 2014 5:49 pm

+1

Rascal
Reply to  Grumpy Guy
December 24, 2014 7:14 pm

+2

markl
December 20, 2014 5:09 pm

If I understand this properly they’re complaining that too much time is being spent on weather reporting. Am I right? Get a life! My understanding is people watch what they prefer and ratings have nothing to do with importance and everything to do with choice.

Reply to  markl
December 20, 2014 9:36 pm

For their Plan to work they need more airtime for their “progressive enlightened liberalism”, read political propaganda?

Editor
Reply to  markl
December 20, 2014 10:08 pm

It isn’t about choice, it’s about weather reporting. The complaint is that the weather reporter has been reporting weather. The argument is that the weather reporter shouldn’t be reporting weather, but should be reporting something which has frequently been explicitly stated not to be weather.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 20, 2014 11:10 pm

Yes, If weather is not perceived by the public as been caused by antroproghenic causes this undermines the political decided UNFCCC and The Political Plan behind it.

Reply to  markl
December 21, 2014 3:14 pm

They don’t mind all the air time for weather disaster. They’re complaining that all that coverage is leaving out the all-important connection to CAGW. “You’re not telling the story riiight!”

george e. smith
Reply to  markl
December 22, 2014 12:48 pm

Well people do have a choice of what is offered by the media, and in particular the major networks. So we get a choice of what they want to show us.
I for example, do not want to watch three or five old sports has beens, sit around a fancy table, and natter idly about something that happened in a game years ago. I do not want to watch a college football game, that might have taken place 12 years ago, that is presented as “live” coverage.
Nor do I need 500 channels of shop at home, which is what my TV source provider offers.
When it comes to news coverage, I do not need to watch “live” TV coverage of something that happened last week, and that I have already heard repeated at least a dozen times on my radio, before I even get out of bed in the morning.
And if all of the “news”papers that I can find at my news stand, simply rehash junk they get from UPI or the NYT or LAT, or some other news canning outlet, why do I need them. If I want to read an NYT story (I don’t), I can read it in the NYT. I don’t need so buy the SJ Murky “news” to get the same story from the same source.
News on dead tree is so out of touch with reality, and few of the papers even have reporters any more to go out and get real news, that we haven’t all heard.
I’ve heard several days of news stories from all over the planet, regarding the recent assassination of two NYPD officers. I haven’t heard a single one yet, that has mentioned the skin color of the assassin, or the victims. Not that it matters to me; that all became irrelevant by the time I was six years old.
But It is in sharp contrast with earlier news reports, where the only thing that WAS reported in the stories, was skin color. Seems like an inconsistency somewhere in our “right to know” watchdogs. who seem to be more like alley curs, than watch dogs.
Yes we get a choice of what they choose to show us or tell us.

Diogenes
Reply to  george e. smith
December 22, 2014 7:32 pm

I am currently reading Stonewalled by Sharyl Attkisson. She states the reason for so much weather on tv is that it is “safe” – you cannot offend an advertiser (corporate partner) or the administration so “weather” is being used to pad the new.
Besides I thought that it was “just weather” if it contradicted the CAGW alarmism (eg record snowfall in the middle of summer in the australian alps – and there they were predicting the “end of snow” in Australia)

December 20, 2014 5:10 pm

Burkey knows his audience. Tyndall is a fool grasping for something that will strike fear into the populace. He sees his charade slipping through his fingers. In that he is right. You cannot live constantly in fear, yet that is what he wants.

Jimbo
Reply to  philjourdan
December 21, 2014 1:16 am

Indeed it is a charade. For years they told us that the climate is not the same as the weather. For years some climatologists, media outlets, environmental groups and METEOROLOGICAL outlets engaged in ‘climate porn’ and some idiot now wish to turn the tables i.e you are engaged in ‘weather porn’ because you do not engage in ‘climate porn’. Is this called self projection? 😉
[My bolding throughout]

BBC – 2 August 2006
Media attacked for ‘climate porn’
By Richard Black
Apocalyptic visions of climate change used by newspapers, environmental groups and the UK government amount to “climate porn”, a think-tank says.
The report from the Labour-leaning Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) says over-use of alarming images is a “counsel of despair”…….
==========
Guardian – 3 August 2006
Simon Retallack
The problem with climate porn
The media’s doom-laden depictions of climate change are distancing the public from the problem.
…..Climate change is most commonly constructed through the alarmist repertoire, as awesome, terrible, immense and beyond human control. It is described, using an inflated or extreme lexicon, a quasi-religious register of death, as being accelerating and irreversible…..
==========
TIME – 14 July 2014
Global Warming Is Coming, but Climate Hysteria Doesn’t Help Anyone
The Guardian’s dire report of a climate-change catastrophe unfolding in Miami is a case of premature evacuation
……..I’ve described South Beach as the canary in America’s coal mine for climate change, and the canary has started coughing a bit, but it isn’t dead or even very sick. I’m sorry to spoil the climate porn, but while the periodic puddles in my Whole Foods parking lot are harbingers of a potentially catastrophic future, they are not currently catastrophic……

If you want to see examples of heavy duty climate porn just type in Guardian climate change into Google and visit the Guardian page. It is a relentless deluge of vomit and alarmism.

Jimbo
Reply to  Jimbo
December 21, 2014 1:29 am

In 2010 the UK’s media regulator OFCOM investigated climate porn.

24 Feb 2010
Ofcom probes TV climate porn
But too late to save Drowning Dog
Ofcom is to investigate the Government’s notoriously emotive ‘Drowning Dog’ prime time TV advertisements. Ad industry self-regulator the ASA is already conducting its own investigation of the ‘climate porn’ campaign.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/ofcom_drowning_dog_probe/

Various groups have been engaged in ‘climate porn’ over the years but now some want to turn the tables. Viewers have had enough of this sh!t and maybe that’s why some media outlets have decided to report the weather. TV outlets probably took a close look at what happens to viewing figures during ‘climate change’ stories. I can’t find the article but I once read they tanked.

December 20, 2014 5:11 pm

Zee looks to be B rated. I prefer C or D rated weather. Well it is about por…..

papiertigre
Reply to  M Simon
December 20, 2014 6:06 pm

Here’s one of these. Have to interrogate the subject fully to form an objective opinion. 😉

papiertigre
Reply to  M Simon
December 20, 2014 6:15 pm

I know how you love Pinup pictures so ….
Probably need one of these too. Total safe for Watts up with that.

Reply to  papiertigre
December 20, 2014 6:33 pm

Whatever makes yer sea level rise …..

Latitude
December 20, 2014 5:15 pm

Tyndall is complaining that they are covering too many weather “disasters”????…
…seems that would play right into the “climate change causes everything” meme………..

Jimbo
Reply to  Latitude
December 21, 2014 1:57 am

For years they told us the meteorologists were not climastrologists and were not qualified enough to be taken seriously on matters of climate. Now a qualified ‘news consultant’ (Andrew Tyndall) tells us that they can and should – as long as they BELIEVE in CAGW. Oh boy!
The irony is in his name.

2006
Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research
Tyndall Working Paper
Is this climate porn? How does climate change communication affect our perceptions and behaviour?
[Full PDF version]

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Jimbo
December 21, 2014 1:34 pm

Jimbo,
You are right about the qualification thing, that is what they said. But this porny stuff from Andrew T is not changing anything. The claim broadcasters should be promoting climate alarm is not because they are knowledgeable enough to work it out for themselves. No, no. They should just do as they are told. Believing the stuff isn’t important. Salvation from CO2 comes because of their sacrifice at the hands of ‘deniers’, not because of anyone’s beliefs in their prophecies.
The religious parallel is unavoidable. There are those who know with their Gnostic Texts and secret cabals, then us who should obey and in our obedience, tell the ignorant flock what the all-knowing have deemed, in their wisdom, to reveal.
Andrew T is stirring for the insiders.
Isn’t it true that we had a review here some time back about what weather broadcasters (if that is the right term) though about CAGW? Wasn’t it that they were heavily, like 80%, disinclined to accept the alarm was legit? Seems about right.

Goldie
December 20, 2014 5:24 pm

More than a hint of sexism from this bloke. He obviously confuses weather and climate so perhaps he can’t distinguish between an empty head pretty girl and a qualified meteorologist.

Brute
Reply to  Goldie
December 21, 2014 7:02 am

Indeed. Where are my victims? Where are my refuges? Where are my 20 meter waves and my drowning cities? Where are my hunger riots? I was promised so much, not just you Mr Obama, I too was promised these things. It’s just sexist.

a3uge
Reply to  Goldie
January 2, 2015 6:57 am

Having a BS in meteorology doesn’t make you a qualified meteorologist?

Editor
December 20, 2014 5:28 pm

Hey, Ginger Zee hiked up Mount Washington to see the weather there first hand. Thumbs up from me. News directors on the other hand? I’ve heard TV Mets say some (justifiably) unnice things about them.

December 20, 2014 5:31 pm

What exactly is a “News Consultant”?
Say what?
Either it is factual news or it is opinionated rubbish.
So this obscene twit is a propagandist?
What and who consults this guru of spin?
Whats his line?
“Who you gonna trust, me or your lying eyes?”
Secondly who gives empty posers like that “gentleman” air time?

Rhee
Reply to  john robertson
December 22, 2014 2:36 pm

News Consultant == Journalist’s Peanut Gallery

Ben U.
December 20, 2014 5:34 pm

Andrew Tindall wants to the boss of Ginger Zee? Why is he telling her among all meteorologists what to do? Is he trying to slut-shame her? Is he reinforcing the kind of culture that feminists have been denouncing? Comic possibilities.

Jimbo
Reply to  Ben U.
December 21, 2014 2:07 am

I maybe mistaken but I think Andrew Tyndall runs the website called Mediabistro. Doing a site search I found over 5,000 references to the word ‘porn’ and its variations. Take from that what you will.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediabistro.com+porn&btnG=Search&gws_rd=ssl

Streetcred
December 20, 2014 5:37 pm

Possibly Tyndall projects his own liking of porn to weather … what’s this … has he got some fetish with beautiful meteorologists and his porn addiction?

Sweet Old Bob
December 20, 2014 5:37 pm

Giving the viewers the choice between watching and listening to Tyndall or Zee…
97% would choose Zee ….(8>))…

Frank
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
December 22, 2014 10:53 am

Now there’s a consensus!

Editor
December 20, 2014 5:44 pm

#waronwomen, where the left is constantly faking-up cases of its political opponents mistreating women while constantly perpetrating actual mistreatment of women who don’t adhere to leftist ideologies.

Reply to  Alec Rawls
December 20, 2014 5:58 pm

Alec,
Exactly right. There’s even a Law:
Fen’s Law:
The Left believes in none of the things they lecture the rest of us about.

Reply to  dbstealey
December 20, 2014 6:35 pm

In the Internet Age, shouldn’t that be the phony-left ??

MCourtney
Reply to  dbstealey
December 21, 2014 12:58 am

Thank you philincalifiornia.
Hypocrisy is a useful charge to make as it is hard to defend against – “Well, he would say that and he doesn’t believe it,”. But useful is a justification for sophism not truth-seeking.
A charge of hypocrisy destroys debate and leads to Groupthink – and eventually being lost in one’s own prejudices.
Fen’s Law is not a lazy Ad Hom (avoiding thought) but a cynical Ad Hom (discouraging thought).

Mac the Knife
Reply to  dbstealey
December 22, 2014 8:48 pm

Thank you, MCourtney
But useful is a justification for sophism not truth-seeking……
Def. sophism – noun 1. a specious argument for displaying ingenuity in reasoning or for deceiving someone.
Definition… and your example of a specious argument, with an ingenious embedded ad hom attack. Really. Implying phil was not honest….Ingenuity in ‘reasoning’, indeed! But, fear not. You and no one else will stifle debate on these pages.
Merry Christmas! And a Joyful New Year to you!

Grumpy Guy
December 20, 2014 5:53 pm

But obviously is not war on women or misogyny, because Holy Socialist Liberal Narrative Uber Alles.
You are obviously mistaken. This is all Bush’s fault and racist. :/

Louis
December 20, 2014 6:09 pm

So observing and reporting the actual weather, instead of repeating party-line propaganda, is considered porn in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall? I bet he feels the same way about observable facts versus climate models. He has it backwards. The alarmists and their climate models are the pornography producing whores. They devote themselves to trying to get a rise out of temperatures in return for money.

JohnB
December 20, 2014 6:20 pm

So Tyndall channel surfs looking for his preferred porn then? 😉
Or is he like those devout Christians who go to movies so that they can be offended amd demand that the rest of us never go to see them?

wws
Reply to  JohnB
December 21, 2014 6:50 am

Or to be more current, like the Norks who attack an entire film company because they don’t like the movies they make.

James the Elder
Reply to  JohnB
December 21, 2014 2:32 pm

Really? Evidence please. Any beheadings?

James Harlock
Reply to  JohnB
December 22, 2014 1:24 pm

Or, like the Pog-Luddites that want to shut-down debate because of “Settled Science?”

Chip Javert
December 20, 2014 6:47 pm

…and Democrat’s wonder why their “Republican War on Women” mantra has failed.

Old Ranga
December 20, 2014 7:08 pm

Climate realists are winning out over climate alarmists as the world wises up to the difference between logic and ideological hogwash.

December 20, 2014 7:13 pm

Well, to be fair, weather reporting is very similar to porn.
It is available on the internet for free, from all over the world, there’s more of it than any one person can watch in a lifetime, and watching it is nothing like being there.

DC Cowboy
Editor
Reply to  davidmhoffer
December 20, 2014 7:21 pm

And, to watch the really good stuff, you have to pay for it

Richard G
Reply to  DC Cowboy
December 26, 2014 12:12 am

That would explain why most of the climate porn papers are behind paywalls.

DC Cowboy
Editor
December 20, 2014 7:20 pm

Climate Corollary to Godwin’s Law
The probability that the cause of ANY weather event is attributed in whole or in part to ‘Climate Change’ approaches one within 48 hours of said weather event.

aussie pete
December 20, 2014 7:22 pm

Most if not all of the readers and contributors to this site are smarter than i , consequently i doubt i can bring any new thought to the subject. I could not however let this item go by without adding my comments. This character is beneath contempt, a creep on every level.

CRS, DrPH
December 20, 2014 7:40 pm

Note: I’ve got a daughter who is about Ginger’s age. I’ve watched Ginger on Chicago TV, where she served as an excellent local meteorologist, and cheered for her when she reached the national stage.
I will happily volunteer to give Mr. Tyndall his fat lip, or worse.

cirby
December 20, 2014 8:00 pm

So… this “consultant” thinks that a highly successful weather reporter should start covering climate change more.
You know, like the Weather Channel did.
Which is why their ratings eroded so badly.
Apparently, he thinks TV shows should do things that make their ratings drop substantially, because, er…

David S
December 20, 2014 8:03 pm

Tyndall’s comment is extremely crude and totally unwarranted. Seems to me that he owes Ginger ZEE an apology.

Dawtgtomis
December 20, 2014 8:07 pm

A quote by media historian Stewart Ewen:

When you start using symbols that have been separated from their meaning and have taken on a life of their own, the facts don’t matter anymore.

December 20, 2014 8:16 pm

Is “Naked News” still running? Do they have a weather report? Is that what he’s after? Naked people reporting the weather?

Stevan Makarevich
Reply to  davidmhoffer
December 21, 2014 9:56 am

“Naked people reporting the weather?”
If they are, maybe they can get Tyndall to do the reporting.
I’ll stick with Zee.

u.k.(us)
December 20, 2014 8:19 pm

As much as I’d like to, I’m gonna go with the “ten-foot pole”.
For now.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 20, 2014 8:29 pm

Bullying the weather girls into become CAGW mouthpieces. Now that is what I call classy.

Richard
December 20, 2014 8:54 pm

Pornography “The representation in books, magazines, photographs, films, and other media of scenes of sexual behavior that are erotic or lewd and are designed to arouse sexual interest.”
Hmmm…I wonder if Andrew Tyndall, who judging from his picture is a bit past it, gets sexually aroused when he sees Ginger Zee? Or when she reads thew weather? Or only when she fails to tie in weather with climate change?
He has a unique fetish, that can only be diagnosed if he comes clean, pardon the pun.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Richard
December 20, 2014 9:26 pm

It’s still early, anyone else you want to disparage ?
You might want to start a blog, it will give you free rein.

Richard
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 20, 2014 9:56 pm

Just in the interest of science. In the interest of science. Wondering what he finds pornographic about Ginger Zee.
Then again he doesn’t say whether he likes pornography or not. Judging from the fact he finds her pornographic and keeps watching her, I would say he has an addition at the very least.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 20, 2014 10:09 pm

I believe that is called “projection”.

Silver ralph
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 8:42 am

I think that is auto-correction typo – it is spelt with an ‘e’.
Ralph

Richard
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 1:37 pm

Yep Silver ralph, definitely with an e. I made a typo too addition instead of “addiction” so that makes u.k.(us), who has leaped (sprung, shot up) to Andrew Tyndall’s defence, and me even.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 2:54 pm

I’m lost about the “e” thing.
Care to explain ?
Did you mean “leapt” ?

Richard
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 23, 2014 12:11 am

Nope. You wouldn’t understand. Leaped and leapt are both correct methinks

James the Elder
Reply to  Richard
December 21, 2014 2:40 pm

Always seems the biggest “Anti-anythings” tend to be closet “Pro-anythings”. Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart come to mind, along with most of the Victorian Age.

markx
December 20, 2014 8:57 pm

Eric, I usually like your stuff but you seem to have missed the whole point of the linked article.
Which is that weather is not getting any worse, it is just that we are seeing a helluva lot more time devoted to reporting on it every day.
My first post on this disappeared. I would be very didappointed if it transpired that authors at WUWT are moderating out legitimate criticisms from sympathetic readers.

markl
Reply to  markx
December 20, 2014 9:27 pm

Did you read this in the article?…”and they’re rarely used in context of a discussion about climate change, Tyndall said.”

markx
Reply to  markl
December 20, 2014 11:16 pm

markl on December 20, 2014 at 9:27 pm says: Did you read this in the article?
Hi markl. In more context he says of the over enthusiastic, often irrelevant to the target audience coverage:

Almin Karamehmedovic, executive producer of “World News Tonight.” “Increasingly, we see it that way. I’m sure the weather is the same as it was 10 years ago, but we see much more of it.”….
…. The concern is that…. .. the amount of time spent on weather and natural disaster stories… .. has more than quadrupled since the early 1990s…..
… video makes weather stories catnip to producers, irresistible even with limited news value, said Patrick Burkey, “Nightly News” executive producer.
…… Others use a more blunt term: weather porn. The extra time spent on these stories can’t be explained by an increased frequency of or interest in bad weather, and they’re rarely used in context of a discussion about climate change, Tyndall said.

The last few words there about climate change do not necessarily convey much ofTyndall’s opinion on climate change and have liitle to do with the main premise of the story: That the excess and exaggerated cover is simply for viewer titillation.
The whloe point of the article is that the excess focus on weather events serves little discernable purpose other than ratings and time padding, and has no discernable benefits whatsoever.
Eric is drawing a very long bow trying to portray this as climate change story and Tyndal’s statement as a ‘nil AGW coverage’ = porn statement.

Alx
Reply to  markl
December 21, 2014 4:20 am

“The last few words there about climate change do not necessarily convey much ofTyndall’s opinion on climate change and have liitle to do with the main premise of the story: That the excess and exaggerated cover is simply for viewer titillation.

Whether it is the main premise of the story is irrelevant. Tyndel clearly states that increased weather reporting is only valid if tied to climate change. That is an opinion on climate change, otherwise why mention it. He could have just said, there is too much puffed-up weather reporting, which btw I agree with.

The whloe point of the article is that the excess focus on weather events serves little discernable purpose other than ratings and time padding, and has no discernable benefits whatsoever.”

I think you could say this about much of the news. News is entertainment geared toward getting ratings, in order to get advertiser revenue. There is public service mixed in, but it is no longer the primary driver.

Admin
Reply to  markx
December 20, 2014 11:35 pm

Tyndall’s own words;
If Ginger Zee reported in the role of climatologist rather than meteorologist, I would praise ABC’s ‘World News Tonight’s’ decision as a daring intervention into a crucial national and global debate,” he said. “Instead, she is more like a pornographer.
Seems pretty clear to me.

James (Aus.)
December 20, 2014 9:19 pm

Anyone asked Tyndall if he has wind farm “investments”? And he knows Ms Zee would laugh at him.

masInt branch 4 C3I in is
December 20, 2014 10:05 pm

[trimmed, off-subject. .mod]

u.k.(us)
Reply to  masInt branch 4 C3I in is
December 20, 2014 10:33 pm

I wouldn’t want this kid tracking me………

Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 6:12 am

A modern day Annie Oakley!

Twobob
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 7:23 am

I see Skill, Discipline and respect.
My breath has gone.
My Accolade’s to the young lady.

Jerry G.
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 3:37 pm

FYI. This is a form of competitive shooting called 3-gun. Semiautomatic rifle in 5.56 NATO, semiautomatic shotgun and handgun.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 21, 2014 4:31 pm

Seemed like that first gun was “fully automatic”.
Wish I had one of those 🙂

Password protected
December 20, 2014 10:14 pm

Her eyes are just slightly crossed. I’d be cautious.

December 20, 2014 10:40 pm

The Man is total airhead full of rot Sudo climate rot.

December 20, 2014 11:11 pm

The hashtags #cloudporn #weatherporn and others similar are widely used in Instagram and other social media as humorous ways to describe cloud or weather-related eye-candy images, dramatic and colorful photos of clouds, storms systems, tornadoes etc. There is nothing sexual about it at all.
The writer of the story seemed to be making the simple point that there is a lot more coverage of local weather events in the national news than there used to be. Viewers apparently like it and the networks are keen on getting good ratings.

Reply to  David Sanger
December 20, 2014 11:17 pm

see also this blog post by Lawrence Camera:
“For those seeing the term cloudporn for the first time, let me explain. It’s one of countless hashtags people use on social networking sites such as Tumblr, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter. Hashtags provide a simple way to label what you share online, kind of like connecting your stuff to a worldwide index. Take a beautiful photograph of clouds, post it on your social networks, caption it with #cloudporn, and voila: People who dig really cool photographs of clouds can now find yours, by searching for anything hashtagged cloudporn.”
http://lawrencecamera.wordpress.com/2013/10/03/cloudporn-photography/

Michael Lynch
December 20, 2014 11:26 pm

Confused by this story- sorry just not intelligent enough to ‘get it’ not coming from a US background – could be interpreted very differently – await confirmation

lemiere jacques
December 20, 2014 11:29 pm

No it is ok…let her report weather event in persective of climate…
Is this event out of normality?
is this snow storm not normal?
this hurricane, this drought , rainfalls, winds etc…
The result will be :”we can not attibute this weather event to climate change”…

u.k.(us)
December 20, 2014 11:43 pm

OK, I’ve been a good sport, had my fun in the comments.
Now, can anyone tell me what we’ve been going on about, I never watch broadcast tv weather, seeing as I have an internet connection.

pat
December 21, 2014 12:51 am

another smear attack!
21 Dec: Sydney Morning Herald: Nick O’Malley: Warming world’s rising seas wash away some of South Florida’s glitz
What was not so widely reported was that South Beach stank of shit. There is no nice way to put it. The place smelled of human waste. There had been a brief, heavy downpour but the water could not escape, so the sewers backed up and filled the roads…
A couple of days later I stood on a sealed road in a park in the southern suburbs of Miami – again ankle deep in water – with Harold Wanless, chairman and professor at the Department of Geological Sciences at the University of Miami, to discuss why the place was so wet. The answer was not complicated. “The ocean has risen,” he says with laugh. “It is what it is.”…
While much of the nation argues about whether or not California’s once-in-a-thousand-year drought or the $US71 billion devastation of Hurricane Sandy might have been caused or exacerbated by climate change – or indeed whether or not the phenomenon even exists – in Southern Florida today you wander about in the water and see what it looks like when rising seas hit a modern western city.
As with every other serious issue facing the United States, the acceptance of climate science has fallen down along partisan lines.
It is generally accepted among leading Democrats and often denied – or at least ignored – by Republicans…
Back in America there are some signs that popular concern about climate change is beginning to increase.
A 2014 poll by the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication shows majorities of women, minorities and young people support candidates who strongly endorse climate action, the New York Times reported earlier this week. “That poll found that 65 percent of Hispanics, 53 percent of blacks and 53 percent of unmarried women support candidates who back climate-change action.”
As the Times noted, those were all groups crucial to the outcomes of the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections…
http://www.smh.com.au/world/warming-worlds-rising-seas-wash-away-some-of-south-floridas-glitz-20141220-129wub.html
& sydney-based journo Paul Wallis spreads the smear in digital journal:
20 Dec: Digital Journal: Paul Wallis: Op-Ed: Climate change denial wading in sewage in Miami
Miami- It doesn’t NEED to get much more bizarre than this. High water in Miami caused sewers to back up in America’s Retirement and Organized Crime Mecca. The local governor, a Republican, of course, says there’s no problem.
Sydney Morning Herald reporter Nick O’Malley has a truly hilarious report on the solemn denial of any environmental issues related to the long-predicted high water in Miami. It would be a real shame and insult to the guy’s journalistic chutzpah to synopsize a great article, which you can read on this link…
http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/environment/op-ed-climate-change-denial-wading-in-sewage-in-miami/article/421580

markl
Reply to  pat
December 21, 2014 9:26 am

The oceans have been rising for millennia. Miami is sinking from over building and other factors. The trend in Miami is to build as close to the water as possible. This isn’t ‘climate change’, it’s man’s stupidity. It’s unresearched factoids like this that are making people understand they’ve been duped by AGW.

John M. Ware
December 21, 2014 1:05 am

If possible, I watch only the weather on the local news because most of what else is reported is not news but left-leaning fluff or outright advocacy of left-wing positions. The weather (at least the gentleman I watch) is, so far, blessedly free of that. Yes, the weathercast is longer than it need be: we need not learn the current temperature of every hamlet between D.C. and Raleigh, and the “hour-by-hour forecast” is vital only on those days when a change is expected (the infamous derecho in summer 2012 was a good example where “hour-by-hour” might actually have been a bit slow). But believe me, rather than get sick with anger at hearing the other “newscasters” prating their good-Democrat propaganda and feel-good nonsense, I’ll turn over to Judge Judy, who is at least interesting and largely apolitical. My work here–when I can get outside to do it–depends immediately and intimately on the weather: I can’t weed or dig when it is too wet, cold, hot, or windy, and it is useful to have the best data and forecasts that the local weatherman can supply (much more trustworthy than TWC or even the new weather channel for local conditions and events).

Non Nomen
December 21, 2014 1:47 am

That guy seems to be more familiar with pornography than with wx and climate and the ways they change.

Leo Smith
December 21, 2014 2:21 am

What is it with men with beards…they are all insane..
http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20and%20Politics/Beards.png

Reply to  Leo Smith
December 21, 2014 6:58 am

Those are not proper beards those men are sporting.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Tom J
December 21, 2014 9:45 am
Stevan Makarevich
Reply to  Leo Smith
December 21, 2014 10:05 am

“What is it with men with beards…they are all insane..”
It’s the women with beards I try to avoid……

James Harlock
Reply to  Leo Smith
December 22, 2014 1:36 pm

Those aren’t men.

Hobgoblin73
December 21, 2014 2:32 am

The irony of her name is without parallel, indeed is this all a wide-up.

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Hobgoblin73
December 21, 2014 7:39 am

She needs a sidekick named Mary Ann, and a professor who seems unaroused by either of them.

Editor
December 21, 2014 3:37 am

Obviously a man who confuses climate with weather and an attractive woman with pornography should not be listened to.
Our wonderful BBC weather announcers manage to find the warmest cities when reporting nationwide temperatures, usually London, and the West of the country. Newcastle upon Tyne (where I live) barely gets a mention.

hunter
December 21, 2014 4:49 am

A climate pimp claiming someone else is in the porn business. Climate con-artists just never stop giving.

December 21, 2014 4:56 am

I’m not a meteorologist or a climatologist. I’m a driver of a van in hot shot freight. So– my “scientific” base is shaky at best.
When I follow the weather, I’m not the least bit interested in climate fear-mongering. It’s not the least interest to me that we might have terrible floods 50 years from now. On the other hand, tonight I have a trip coming up from Chicago’s big airport going to Traverse City, Michigan. You better believe I’m looking at the reports and radars to see if I’m likely to run into lake-effect snow on the way there and back. Right now, the radars look clear (I’ve checked) but tonight calls for flurries and it probably changes to rain here in Chicago tomorrow. What it’ll do on the East side of Lake Michigan– I have’t seen yet,
About the other thing: I’ve heard the “weather is not climate” thing so often when debating this subject that it’s not funny. I stick my nose out the door and get it froze off on a below-zero day and report that– “Climate is not weather– the climate is getting warmer!” Report average temps during the summer– it’s been awhile since we got a real stinker of a hot day– and “Climate is not weather– the climate is getting warmer, and it’s warmer now than it’s ever been!” Really? I’ve been around 59 years, and I can remember warmer summers without scratching my head. Wild guess says we’ve had warmer summers before my time—“warmer than it’s ever been” is a real long time you know, not just the past couple of years.
So— let’s see what the weather-porn star– who in this case is strangely enough a male– has to say about local weather, shall we? But, don’t tell my pastor, he has this “thing” about porn being a sin you know.

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  mjmsprt40
December 21, 2014 5:39 am

I live 12 miles west of Traverse City, the roads are in great shape, U.S.31, is dry as a bone. Some of the county roads have slick spots in the shady areas. For what it’s worth The Weather Channel is clueless about the micro-climates here, and TWC winter driving tips are beyond bizarre.

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
December 21, 2014 7:35 am

I checked— Traverse City is expecting flurries tonight, Ludington– which I have to pass both going out and coming back– is expecting flurries switching to rain tonight and tomorrow. Looks like I can save worries about lake-effect snow for another day. Northwest Indiana shouldn’t be bad tomorrow either, too warm for the snow-machine to kick in.
That’s your “Lake Michigan Snow Report Porn” for today. 🙂

Tim
December 21, 2014 4:59 am

Doesn’t Ginger realize that she should follow the money that 97% of us agree to receive?

Bruce Cobb
December 21, 2014 5:45 am

He prefers “climate porn” to “weather porn”. That’s the trouble with using the word “porn” as an epithet meaning “that which has been over-exaggerated and hyped”. Plus, as in this case, you risk being viewed as sexist, and who knows, perhaps there is a latent misogynistic bent there.
The irony is that he may have been correct in his criticism of how ABC News presents the weather, but for entirely the wrong reason. In fact, hyping climate change is far, far worse. Although, the way weather is hyped does lead people to think that “the weather is getting worse”.
In any case, his attack on Ginger Zee was unwarranted and piggish. His beef is with ABC News, which he has criticized as being “disneyfied”.

Steve from Rockwood
December 21, 2014 6:05 am

Tyndall’s thesis can be extended to news casts in general.
“Tonight we first take you to the scene of a massive car bomb that killed …”
“We now take you to a live broadcast where demonstrators have just stormed a police barricade…”
“And turning to weather, meteorologists are tracking a massive storm that may develop just in time for Christmas…”
“And in the sports world, athletes continue to behave badly…”
“And finally tonight, a good-news story about a lost dog …”

David L.
December 21, 2014 6:27 am

I tune in to the weather report to hear about the weather; what’s likely to happen over the next few days. I don’t need to tune in daily to hear about what they think is going to happen in decades or centuries from now!

December 21, 2014 6:32 am

I can’t help but think that Tyndall’s model in life is: ‘Hi, I’m miserable, therefore you must be miserable. And, if you go watching Ginger Zee and you’re not miserable while you’re watching her, well then you must be made to feel miserable. Now, that may not transport any of my miserableness off of my shoulders and onto your’s but at least, if I glimpse you being as miserable as me, I will feel better about feeling miserable.’

Reference
December 21, 2014 6:48 am

The Guardian’s dire report of a climate-change catastrophe unfolding in Miami is a case of premature evacuation

I know that the Guardian is famous for making spelling mistakes, but really…
Did the (sic) tag get missed off? 😉

Admin
Reply to  Reference
December 22, 2014 1:24 am

It could have been worse… 🙂

wws
December 21, 2014 6:55 am

Personally, I enjoy the Mexican weather reports the most. Who cares if I don’t live there?

Bruce Cobb
December 21, 2014 7:06 am

Anyway, I meant to add a bit more about the use of the word “porn” to mean anything which is hyped and exaggerated, either to bump up ratings or to push an ideology. It’s a double-edged sword, and actually becomes somewhat meaningless after a while. It is not unlike abuse of the N*zi word, really. I have been uncomfortable with the phrase “climate porn”, though I have used it myself in the past, and it seems it is a phrase that probably should be retired for use as an epithet, along with other words with sexual connotations like “pimp” or “prostitute”. They don’t really add anything to the conversation.

Gunga Din
December 21, 2014 7:09 am

He seems to think that all meteorologist who don’t follow in the footsteps of The Storm Channel aren’t qualified to report on the weather.

Walt D.
December 21, 2014 7:37 am

Whatever next? Perhaps she should should give an Etruscan interpretation every time there is a thunderstorm.

LexingtonGreen
December 21, 2014 7:43 am

Nice to see that her boss backed her up by acknowledging that spewing alarmism causes a loss in trust. It has probably been three years since I have watched any network evening or morning news because the bs spewed by NBCs Brian Williams caused me to loose any trust in any news story on television.

Reply to  LexingtonGreen
December 21, 2014 8:14 am

“… the bs spewed by NBCs Brian Williams caused me to loose any trust in any news story on television”
The Brian Williams did you a big favor by teaching you that the mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the state. Just like Pravda in the old USSR, you can not trust anything in the mainstream media at face value. The mainstream media has value only by reading between the lines.

James Harlock
Reply to  LexingtonGreen
December 22, 2014 1:47 pm

They lost a lot of credibility with their BS Global Warming Hysteria “Special” a few years ago, when they forecast the dismal “future” of a fictitious American boy whose family had to abandon the flooding city of Miami. It went downhill into the Fifth Ring of alarmist Hell, from there.

December 21, 2014 7:46 am

{bold emphasis mine – JW}
David Bauder, AP Television Writer
12/12/2014 10:49 AM / updated 12/12/2014 11:06 AM
“Weather coverage can drive ratings,” Burkey [ NBC’s “Nightly News” executive producer] said, but “you have to be careful that you’re not covering weather stories that aren’t real news every night. It’s an easy way to lose the trust of the audience about what is really an important weather story.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/tv/article4446150.html#/tabPane=tabs-383c4c27-1#storylink=cpy

It seems someone high up in the MSM does care about losing trust in the audience. He should be held up as a role model for the industry in that regard. He should work on the lost of trust created by purposely biased scientists in support of structurally flawed IPCC assessment processes created to exclaim significant climate change whether it exists or not.
Happy Holiday Season to all.
John

G. horvat
December 21, 2014 8:42 am

If you are defending meteorologists as professionals, why is there a crazy-eyed picture of Ms. Zee in this article? Seems disrespectful and contrary to the point you are trying to make.

Admin
Reply to  G. horvat
December 22, 2014 1:27 am

The picture is from Ginger Zee’s Wikipedia entry – so its probably a safe bet that she likes that picture.

Pete in Cumbria UK
December 21, 2014 8:44 am

Maybe its too late, maybe my browser but, at the top of this thread I’m getting a picture of a wild haired, wild eyed woman seemingly wearing no clothes next to word ‘porn’
It has got to be the most unflattering snapshot/thumbnail of an otherwise good looking girl that there ever was.
Just a few words to that Tyndall (he’s nearly as creepy as Lewsandoxny)- “FFS man, get a life!”

François
December 21, 2014 9:18 am

It is getting a heck of a lot warmer, so you talk about other stuff, and think no one will notice.

KevinM
Reply to  François
December 21, 2014 9:34 am

Quantify “a heck of a lot”.

December 21, 2014 9:32 am

‘Weather Porn’
————
Behind the “Green” Door.

KevinM
December 21, 2014 9:34 am

It looks like a photo selected by the same criteria media select presidential photos. If they’re on the same team, you capture a moment of thoughtful reflection. If they’re on the other team, you capture them about to sneeze, cough, yawn or expose their fifty year old bottom while hugging Bill Clinton in a bathing suit.

Admin
Reply to  KevinM
December 22, 2014 1:30 am

The picture is from Ginger Zee’s Wikipedia entry. I think someone as high profile as Ginger, its a safe bet that if she didn’t like that picture, Wikipedia would have replaced it with something else.

James Harlock
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 22, 2014 1:51 pm

Unless someone who dislikes her keeps reposting that one. Assuming she Wikis herself, that is.

Scarface
December 21, 2014 10:18 am

Andrew Tyndall would be more happy with a weather report like this, I guess?

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Scarface
December 21, 2014 11:18 am

First time I’ve seen that one, funny 🙂

Reply to  u.k.(us)
December 23, 2014 6:33 am

Reminds me a little of Monster in law.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Scarface
December 21, 2014 12:24 pm

Don’t worry, folks.
She’s now one of Al Roker’s co-host on TWC.

n.n
December 21, 2014 12:05 pm

Just the consensus, ma’am. That sounds vaguely familiar.

John West
December 21, 2014 8:18 pm

Ginger Zee has a Bachelor of Science degree in meteorology while Andrew Tyndall has what science credentials? He should be asking her what her opinion is not dictating to her what her opinion should be.

Johna Till Johnson
December 22, 2014 6:08 am

The author writes: “Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience.”
That should read, “Ginger Zee’s sin, in the eyes of Andrew Tyndall, appears to be that she gives more airtime to reporting weather events, than to preaching climate fear to her TV audience–while being a cute girl.”
Since she’s committed the cardinal sin of being smart and cute, he has to take her down a notch by dragging sex into it. Classic.

CaligulaJones
December 22, 2014 6:42 am

Those who can, do.
Those who can’t, teach.
Those who can’t do or teach, consult.

Mary Brown
December 22, 2014 7:33 am

Ginger Renee Zuidgeest (b 1981) has a bachelor’s degree in meteorology from Valparaiso University, where she is an adjunct professor.

Mary Brown
Reply to  Mary Brown
December 22, 2014 7:38 am

I did hard time in TV. Can’t tell you how hard it is to be taken seriously as a woman. Didn’t bother me much and the female thing made it easier to get a job, but harder to to get the top job at a station. Thank God I left TV before Google and photoshop fakes and the total destruction of ratings and total loss of privacy. When I started in the late 80s, almost no women had met degrees. That has changed somewhat although it’s still a nerd-guy major.

NZ Willy
December 22, 2014 10:13 am

It’s an example of that old saying: “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”. I suppose those who take umbrage at that are like the storm troopers of the Empire, etc.

James Harlock
Reply to  NZ Willy
December 22, 2014 1:55 pm

Would those be the “only Imperial Troopers are this precise” Storm Troopers, or the “can’t hit the wall of a barn from inside” Storm Troopers?

Mac the Knife
December 22, 2014 9:07 pm

I would be classified as a sexist and/or a racist, if I chose Ms. Zee over Willard Scott or Al Roker….. and a misogynist if I don’t.
Truth.
THAT is the measure and duplicitous hypocrisy of the modern liberal sophist.

Jack Kendrick
December 28, 2014 8:31 am

I would watch every night without fail were she to report the weather while topless.

u.k.(us)
Reply to  Jack Kendrick
December 28, 2014 3:12 pm

It took you 6 days to make that contribution ?
That should be day 1 stuff, get with the program !!

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