Claim: A warming world may spell bad news for honey bees

honey-beeFrom the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council

Researchers have found that the spread of an exotic honey bee parasite -now found worldwide – is linked not only to its superior competitive ability, but also to climate, according to a new study published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

The team of researchers, including Myrsini Natsopoulou from the Martin-Luther-Universität Halle-Wittenberg, who co-led the research alongside Dr. Dino McMahon from Queen’s University Belfast, believes that the parasite could become more prevalent in the UK in the future and their findings demonstrate the importance of both parasite competition and climate change in the spread of this emerging disease.

Myrsini Natsopoulou said: “Our results reveal not only that the exotic parasite is a better competitor than its original close relative, but that its widespread distribution and patterns of prevalence in nature depend on climatic conditions too”.

The research compared pathogen growth in honey bees that were infected with both the exotic parasite, Nosema ceranae and its original native relative, Nosema apis.

Experiments showed that, while both parasites inhibit each other’s growth, the exotic Nosema ceranae has a much greater negative impact on the native Nosema apis than vice versa. By integrating the effects of competition and climate into a simple mathematical model, the researchers were better able to predict the relative occurrence of both parasite species in nature: Nosema ceranae is common in Southern Europe but rare in Northern Europe.

Coauthor of the study, Prof. Robert Paxton of Queen’s University Belfast, added: “This emerging parasite is more susceptible to cold than its original close relative, possibly reflecting its presumed origin in east Asia. In the face of rising global temperatures, our findings suggest that it will increase in prevalence and potentially lead to increased honey bee colony losses in Britain.”

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This study was funded by the Insect Pollinators Initiative, a joint venture of the UK’s Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC), Defra, the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC), the Scottish Government and the Wellcome Trust, managed under the auspices of the Living with Environmental Change (LWEC) partnership.

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TinyCO2
November 26, 2014 10:07 am

The biggest threat to bees is terrible bio security. It’s no accident that hot, disease free Australia exports healthy bees to the rest of the World.

Mike Rossander
Reply to  TinyCO2
November 26, 2014 1:33 pm

While very true, that’s an ironic comment considering that honeybees are a non-native invasive species in most parts of the world. As a beekeeper, I happen to think that they are a wonderful species but I do not avoid the fact that in an environment of true “bio-security” they wouldn’t be in Australia (or the US or most of Europe) in the first place.

Gentle Tramp
Reply to  TinyCO2
November 26, 2014 2:33 pm

The biggest threat to bees are the gigantic “agricultural deserts” of corn and other energy plants which were made to produce CO2-neutral bio-fuel to “protect” the world against evil and satanic CO2 from fossil fuels, which – nota bene – would help to make the Earth greener and consequently a much better place for flowers and bees to live…
Alas! Isn’t it a tragedy that pure superstition rules our western and highly educated societies ???

Chris
Reply to  Gentle Tramp
November 26, 2014 9:34 pm

The widespread growth of corn started in the 1970s, when then US Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz pushed through changes to farming laws that caused corn to become a favored crop. This continued with the use of corn as the primary feedstock for cattle and the ubiquitous use of high fructose corn syrup. The use of ethanol has increased the growth of corn further, but the trend started a long time ago.

Gentle Tramp
Reply to  Gentle Tramp
November 27, 2014 11:12 am

@Chris
That might be correct for the US. But in Europe and especially in Germany started this “biodiversity desertification of the agricultural landscape by energy-corn” (In German: Vermaisung der Landschaft) with the extreme hyping of bio-fuel and bio-gas in order to “save” the world from fossil fuel CO2 in the last 10 years.
An excellent documentation of this problem (caused exclusively by the CAGW hsyteria) is given in the following movie after 31:00 minutes running time:

latecommer2014
Reply to  Gentle Tramp
November 27, 2014 12:24 pm

More ” efficient ” farming has been a big problem for bees. The spraying of fence lines, ditches, and the general cleanup of wild native plants creates both shortage of year round pollen sources and lack of diversity .
Here in Central California, it has also contributed to the scarcity of other wildlife such as rabbits and game birds. There simply are not as many breeding areas, or cover against Hawks and coyotes .

Olaf Koenders
Reply to  TinyCO2
November 26, 2014 6:27 pm

“A warming world may spell bad news for (insert anything you like here)”..

“This study was funded by the Insect Pollinators Initiative, a joint venture of the UK’s Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council (BBSRC), Defra, the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC), the Scottish Government and the Wellcome Trust, managed under the auspices of the Living with Environmental Change (LWEC) partnership.”

And they were likely funded by the taxpayer, either through donations or “donations” at gunpoint (taxes).
Any minute now, a headline will read: Bees of the future won’t be able to take off at some beehives due to global warming.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Olaf Koenders
November 27, 2014 3:00 am

Brilliant! 😉

H.R.
November 26, 2014 10:09 am

Coauthor of the study, Prof. Robert Paxton of Queen’s University Belfast, added: “This emerging parasite is more susceptible to cold than its original close relative, possibly reflecting its presumed origin in east Asia. In the face of rising global temperatures, our findings suggest that it will increase in prevalence and potentially lead to increased honey bee colony losses in Britain.”
If temperatures rise there might possibly be a problem. If temperatures fall then never mind. Got it.

mwh
Reply to  H.R.
November 26, 2014 10:23 am

2nd para ‘believes that’ and ‘could become’. Para 5 ‘ By integrating the effects of competition and climate into a simple mathematical model, the researchers were better able to predict’. Para 7 ‘ possibly reflecting its presumed…’ and ‘ our findings suggest’ and ‘ potentially lead…’
Good solid stuff, well done, worth every penny!

H.R.
Reply to  mwh
November 26, 2014 11:54 am

This Yankee gets the sarcasm, mwh, but the truth of the matter is;
“Good solid stuff, well done, worth every [a] penny!”
And I believe they owe us about three cents change from that penny.

mpainter
Reply to  mwh
November 26, 2014 12:54 pm

I disagree, H.R.
I won’t settle for less than a nickel.

David A
Reply to  mwh
November 27, 2014 1:36 am

“Good solid stuff, well done, worth every penny!”
You forgot to add the word robust.

rogerthesurf
Reply to  H.R.
November 26, 2014 3:43 pm

True,
In the spring here, the bees come out to do their stuff, but when we get a mild cold snap we see them clinging to whatever and obviously dying.
I bet there is a paper somewhere that warns of burgeoning populations of bees as temperatures grow.
However the most important thing to remember is that us taxpayers probably financed Prof Paxton’s paper.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.rogerfromnewzealand.wordpress.com

ozspeaksup
Reply to  H.R.
November 27, 2014 3:19 am

and didnt the cold winters knock off a lot of bees the last couple of years in UK?
so some warmer milder weather might be good for them?
and the plants they need to survive.
our aussie bees(I help an apiaist) cope in desert areas where over 40c isnt unusual
as long as we keep water up they do fine.
and any keeper worth the name is well on the ball in regular checks and burning any infected hives.

Newly Retired Engineer
November 26, 2014 10:12 am

“By integrating the effects of competition and climate into a simple mathematical model …”
No complex models needed here.

wws
November 26, 2014 10:18 am

Let me guess, it’s because as the air gets warmer and less dense, they won’t have enough power to take off without severe weight restrictions?
They really aren’t even trying anymore, are they?

JimS
November 26, 2014 10:20 am

During the Eemian interglacial, about 125,000 years ago when global temperatures were 3 C above what they are now, I wonder how life survived for another interglacial in which we now live?

Paul
Reply to  JimS
November 26, 2014 11:01 am

I wonder how it survived glacial periods. Snowpiercer?

Doug Proctor
November 26, 2014 10:26 am

The honey bee is not native to North America (nor is the common garden worm). It is a European invasive species that the Native Americans considered a sign that the White Man was getting closer to ruining another day.
Perhaps the eco-green preservationists should welcome the demise of the honey bee (and promote the eradication of the earthworm). Get things back to Nature. If the previous range of the Polar Bear is the goal, so should the previous range of the honey bee, i.e. not including North America (or Australia).
Wait. The eco-green LIKE their honey on toast. That puts this creature into the OTHER category, the “okay as is” one.

G P Hanner
Reply to  Doug Proctor
November 26, 2014 11:17 am

The reason there were no earthworms in North America before the arrival of Europeans is that the ice age ice sheets eradicated whatever earthworms there were. Or so I have read.
Of course, the ice sheets did not cover all of North America. Nor is the earthworm confined to Europe: I have seen earthworms over a foot long in Southeast Asia and the Philippines.

Randy
Reply to  G P Hanner
November 26, 2014 1:56 pm

There were only a few species of worms introduced. There are also many native types. Areas previously covered in ice didn’t have them in some areas until those with european ancestry helped moved them around.

Mike Rossander
Reply to  G P Hanner
November 26, 2014 1:59 pm

Worms – yes. Earthworms (Lumbricus terrestris) – no. Lumbricus terrestris is a European worm introduces as part of the European agricultural diaspora.

Auto
Reply to  G P Hanner
November 26, 2014 2:56 pm

And a fathom long in Southern Africa.
Auto

Mark and two Cats
Reply to  G P Hanner
November 26, 2014 7:02 pm

global worming

G P Hanner
Reply to  G P Hanner
November 27, 2014 8:08 am

To Auto: You do live near Middle Earth so I guess six-foot long earthworms are no problem.

Reply to  Doug Proctor
November 28, 2014 9:12 am

I think it was Einstein who said if the world’s bee population were to suddenly die, human life would cease to exist within 5yrs.
So…common sense approach…
More C02 equals warmer temps.
Warmer temps equals more plants.
More plants equal more blossoms.
More blossoms equal happier bees.
What am I missing?

Steve Case
November 26, 2014 10:26 am

There really is a wolf, it really is coming out of the forest to eat the sheep this time. Honest! …….

November 26, 2014 10:30 am

Then what pollenated the flowers in the past when the temperatures rose?

MarkW
Reply to  soiledsockpuppet
November 26, 2014 10:34 am

Wishful thinking

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  soiledsockpuppet
November 26, 2014 12:04 pm

Wind, ever wonder what all that gray-green stuff is all over your car after a moderate late spring wind, it’s just that the damn bees are a little more reliable for many, (non-native), fruit crops

hugh
Reply to  soiledsockpuppet
November 26, 2014 12:23 pm

Ants were native American pollinators.

Randy
Reply to  soiledsockpuppet
November 26, 2014 1:59 pm

There are native pollinators. Including other types of bees, just not the honey bee which europeans bred from african bees long ago. Some types of flies, a few bee types, some birds and others all pollinate, as well as self pollinating plants and wind pollinated.

Katherine
Reply to  soiledsockpuppet
November 26, 2014 4:49 pm

Solitary bees? Wind? Other insects?

G P Hanner
Reply to  Katherine
November 26, 2014 5:26 pm

Hawk moths, among other lepidoptera, along with humming birds, just to name a few.

Jimbo
November 26, 2014 10:31 am

By integrating the effects of competition and climate into a simple mathematical model, the researchers were better able to predict the relative occurrence of both parasite species in nature:….

Climate models are very skilled at making predictions / projections. Just ask the IPCC.

DD More
Reply to  Jimbo
November 26, 2014 12:42 pm

They didn’t seem to get the Africanized Honey Bees (AHB) takeover of the over the European honey bees (EHBs) correct, so maybe they don’t have the correct factors either.
Some experts predicted the bees would spread throughout the country; others thought they’d reach only as far north as the latitude of Houston. Most expected there would be a southern zone where AHBs would predominate, a northern zone where EHBs would maintain a climatic advantage, and a large transitional zone between the two. And everyone expected AHBs to spread across the southernmost tier of states. But, as of January 2004, AHBs have been found only in southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and Texas, as well as Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Seems what stopped them was –
“What immediately jumped out at me was the correlation with rainfall,” he says. “Rainfall over 55 inches, distributed evenly throughout the year, is almost a complete barrier to AHB spread.”
Didn’t you also have a posting about how bad ‘Regional Climate Modeling’ was?

November 26, 2014 10:36 am

So it started in Asia.
I wonder how many bee colonies have been lost, so far?
World wide?
What has it done to the availability and the price of honey?

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  mikerestin
November 28, 2014 5:46 pm

I don’t know about elsewhere but around here (Pacific Northwest) the price of honey has increased more than the average for most foods. Enough so, that I’m thinking about starting my own hives.

hyperzombie
Reply to  mikerestin
December 6, 2014 2:32 pm

The world wide honey bee population is up over 20% since 2000. Honeybees are just like any other human raised animal, if we needed more we would just breed more of them.

Eustace Cranch
November 26, 2014 10:37 am

“A warming world will cause (insert bad thing here).”
How many dozen, or hundred, are we up to now? Yes, we get it: alarmists are constantly claiming silly things about climate warming. At this point I don’t understand what purpose it serves to keep posting variations of the same story over and over and over.

Reply to  Eustace Cranch
November 26, 2014 11:07 am

The repeat of their claims without agreeing to any failures is the mantra of the left and the climate scientists. How do these scientists know that the parasite isn’t the result of being transported by humans to other nations? If that nation is too cold, the parasite dies. if the receiving nation is hot enough the parasite survives and propagates. What about the parasite that evolves to accept a cooler temperature and begins to propagate?

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  wally12
November 26, 2014 4:14 pm

I talked to the world’s most successful artificial inseminator of bees. Yes there is one. He said the main cause of the spread of bee parasites was the long distance transport of bee colonies for money, by ‘pollination companies’. Like the frog and toad researchers, the bee keepers are the worst enemies of the creatures from which they seek to make a living.

Rob Herron
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
November 26, 2014 11:08 am

Actually it’s “a warming world could”……insert terrible prediction here.
None of these scientits have any science to back up their claims so the use words like could and may.

Julian Williams in Wales
November 26, 2014 10:43 am

In Wales (UK) where I live we live we have bees in our garden. My bee keeper has told me that early Springs and warm weather bring out the bees and they swarm more and make more honey for the winter, late springs and cold wet summers are bad for bees. So it is swings and roundabouts!
I also notice that when we holiday in Southern Europe where the summers are hotter there is more variety of insects, and more insects generally. Somehow I do not buy the idea that the bee keepers will panic at the prospect of more early springs and warmer summers.

Jim Francisco
Reply to  Julian Williams in Wales
November 26, 2014 4:11 pm

My neighbor’s bees that survived a very hot summer two years ago all died last winter due to the extreme cold. We welcome some global warming.

Dawtgtomis
November 26, 2014 10:45 am

This reminds me of claims that Malaria is spread by rising global temperature. The more these astrologists predict future the more their reputations suffer when the future doesn’t agree to cooperate.

Old England
Reply to  Dawtgtomis
November 26, 2014 11:08 am

I seem to recall reading that before the onset of the little ice age malaria, known as the ague, was commonplace in the south of England.
Mind you grapes which had grown as far north as the Scottish Borders in Roman times could not be grown, even in the very South of England, after the onset of the LIA, until the middle of the 20th century. The growing range for grapes in the UK is still several hundred miles South of that in Roman times.

Julian Williams in Wales
Reply to  Old England
November 26, 2014 12:14 pm

are there new grape varieties that are better able to cope with the northern climates?

Reply to  Old England
November 26, 2014 5:06 pm

Mind you grapes which had grown as far north as the Scottish Borders in Roman times could not be grown, even in the very South of England, after the onset of the LIA, until the middle of the 20th century. The growing range for grapes in the UK is still several hundred miles South of that in Roman times.

I keep hearing that but frankly we (including me) grow grapes here in Michigan, European wine grape vines grafted onto North American grape root stock. If we can grow grapes of reasonable quality where I live, and we did it back in the late 60’s, when it was a lot colder, (like it is now), I sceptical of claims it can’t be done in England. If someone were to say that the British didn’t need to because they were able to brew drinkable beers and mead I’d buy that.

buggs
November 26, 2014 10:55 am

Remember, organisms neither adapt nor evolve to changing conditions. None of them. The only thing anything responds to are shifts in the climate. [/sarc] Honestly, reading biological literature these days is aggravating because no one seems to ever consider any sort of hypothesis beyond “it’s getting warmer, woe is us”. The stupid, it hurts.

Old England
November 26, 2014 10:59 am

Hopefully not too far off-topic:
A headline story in some of the UK press today is that Seals in the North Sea are killing and eating harbour dolphins – with the additional tag line that swimmers may now be at risk.
I wonder how long it will be before some ‘scientist’ on the Eco-activist payroll blames this on global warming / climate change?

Oldseadog
Reply to  Old England
November 26, 2014 12:37 pm

Not only that, Bottle Nose Dolphins are eating salmon; and I have seen a Bottle Nose kill a Harbour Porpoise.
In other words, things that ordinary people know about are now being “studied” by “scientists” who believe that they have found out new and wonderful “facts”.
Living organisms adapt to changing conditions.
Learn to live with this fact and spend the money on more important things.

Reply to  Oldseadog
November 28, 2014 9:18 am

In other words, things that ordinary people know about are now being “studied” by “scientists” who believe that they have found out new and wonderful WAYS TO MAKE GRANT MONEY.
Fixed it 🙂

Warrick
November 26, 2014 11:13 am

European honey bees (Apis mellifera) are the bees being referred to here. They live in large colonies (or hives if you will) and regulate the temperature very accurately (about 35degC as I recall). They warm it in winter and cool it in summer. Nosema ceranae is a natural parasite in a few honey bee species in Asia. The native Asian species are gradually being replaced for honey production by the European honey bee because they want more honey and easier to manage hives. Varroa destructor, another serious mite parasite in European honey bee hives (worldwide except Australia) seems well adapted to normal hive temperatures, regardless of climate wherever the hives are being kept.
Since global warming is not expected to change the temperature inside the hive, the only impact would be bees needing to spend more energy cooling in summer and less energy warming in winter.

Old England
Reply to  Warrick
November 26, 2014 11:18 am

Very good points – shame that the authors of the report lacked your common sense .

mpainter
Reply to  Warrick
November 26, 2014 1:04 pm

Warwick,
You are saying that the European bee is being used for honey production in warmer Asian climes in preference to the native varieties, and is there no problem with the mites? If this is so, what boobs these authors are.

November 26, 2014 11:36 am

In short: life is so feeble and precarious it is a complete surprise we are still alive at all.

MCourtney
November 26, 2014 11:42 am

So:
1 One type of bee parasite competes preferentially with another type.
2 The parasite that relatively benefits from a warming world is bad for UK bees.
3 Model shows that a warming world is bad for UK bees.
That seems reasonable.
Let’s breed better bees. Maybe cross them with the foreign bees that have the relative immunity?

richard
November 26, 2014 11:43 am

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jun/23/can-cities-save-bees
In cities, which can but up to 10- 20 x hotter than the surrounding countryside –
“But surprisingly, the industry has discovered that bees kept in urban areas are healthier and produce better honey”

peter
Reply to  richard
November 26, 2014 12:26 pm

Ontario just banned a pesticide that is applied to commercial seeds, and is blamed for bee die off. Don’t know if it is true, but it would explain why city bees do so well, none of the plants they harvest nectar and pollen from would have been grown from these commercial farm seeds.

Mike Rossander
Reply to  peter
November 26, 2014 1:53 pm

This unfortunately is not true. Neonicotinoids (the pesticide family being outlawed in Ontario) are some of the most commonly used pesticides in suburban and urban environments. Go to your local Home Depot or garden supply store and write down the active ingredients of the weed killers and other lawn treatments that your neighbors pour onto their grass. They are also the same chemicals used in your dog’s flea collar. Neonics are everywhere and the local bees get exposed to them regardless.
I will concede that the means of exposure is different. There are relatively few urban or suburban uses of seed coatings (the dominant use means for commercial agriculture) but there is no evidence yet suggesting that the means of transmission is relevant to honeybee health.
The more generally accepted theory is that, counter-intuitively, urban and suburban environments have higher bio-diversity than rural agricultural settings and that the increased diversity results in better nutrition for city bees. This makes some intuitive sense. In my neighborhood, every house is planted with different flowers and they all bloom at slightly different times. Go to rural Kansas and it’s corn from horizon to horizon. And since corn is wind-pollinated, that essentially one great “green desert” from the bees’ perspective.

richard
November 26, 2014 11:45 am

http://scienceblogs.com/notrocketscience/2009/07/05/bees-kill-hornets-with-carbon-dioxide-emissions-and-local-wa/
“But one animal actively uses both heat and carbon dioxide as murderous weapons – the unassuming honeybee”

General P. Malaise
November 26, 2014 12:29 pm

this like the “airplanes of the future will not be able to take-off” alarmist propaganda is fear mongering.
I would expect one would actually have warming before any correlation can be made yet they (the alarmists) make said correlation.
those same planes would just need to lower their take-off weight for temperature which they already do at hot and high airports.
Anthony please mark these as satire pieces because they are just fear mongering otherwise.

Rud Istvan
November 26, 2014 12:43 pm

As this paper is about European honeybees infected with an Asian bee parasite native to Asian honeybees, one coild have done a simple experiment. Get some hives of the double infected (european native and invasive parasites. Set some hives in England. Set some in, say, southern Italy. If the modeled (only hypothesis is true), then the English hives would do better than the southern Italy hives, since an irrefutable fact is that southern Itally is warmer than England, and by more than IPCC modelled AGW.
But that would require real bees and an experiment, not ‘a simple mathematical model of parasite competition and climate’. And one strongly suspects the experiment would disprove the ‘alarming’ AGW model hypothesis. Just ask Italian bee keepers.

Mike Rossander
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 26, 2014 1:43 pm

Within the US, there actually is some evidence that nosema ceranae is a greater problem for southern beekeepers (Georgia) than for northern beekeepers (Ohio). See the American Bee Journal Extra – News November 26, 2014, “Nosema ceranae More Susceptible to Cold Temperatures” for one discussion.
That said, there is a much better discussion at http://pubs.ext.vt.edu/ENTO/ENTO-66/ENTO-66-pdf.pdf (all Virginia based data) which concludes that “Colony mortality due to N. ceranae infections does not appear to be a major factor in colony losses throughout the mid-Atlantic region. We do not feel that N. ceranae is a major factor associated with colony decline.” So if this second conclusion is true, then even if the article above is correct about a relationship between temperature and nosema ceranae, it won’t be a major impact on the bees.

Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2014 12:50 pm

Next up: Warming World Threatens Future Thanksgiving Dinners.
Yes, they are serial.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 26, 2014 1:51 pm

I was just going to ask why are they scaremongering about honeybees when everyone is thinking about Thanksgiving turkey? Your link is to Mother Jones and they are not content to predict doom for just turkeys. No, they detail how global warming will have devastating impacts on mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce, creamed spinach, corn and pumpkins. A sample of their exhaustive research:

There hasn’t been much—if any—research on the effects of climate change on pumpkins. Still, evidence from the last few years suggests that pumpkins are sensitive to extreme weather.

On the bright side, fuel scarcity will make those Thanksgiving car trips to visit extended family unaffordable (what with the carbon emission surcharges), so you’ll end up staying home to enjoy reconstituted Veggi-Pap (using recycled waste water) with just your family instead of spending half the day driving to visit someone else’s family. Saving all that energy will allow you to turn the TV on for maybe an hour or two to watch an installment of The Great Speeches of Wise Leader Barak Obama. The government-approved channel no longer carries football because it has been ruled too male-centric and disrespects Wymen Of Attitude.
After a skimpy meal you can exchange carrier-pigeon mail with your folks about how maybe next year the gasoline rationing will be eased a bit so you can meet somewhere in the middle to enjoy an all organic Tofu salad as an occasion to express your gratitude to the UN for saving the world from climate change.
Happy Thanksgiving to all — proper gratitude for our many blessings is best cultivated by enjoying them! I predict project that tomorrow we will still have honeybees.

Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
November 27, 2014 3:56 am

:)))

MikeA
November 26, 2014 12:58 pm

The BBC (no less – couldn’t believe it!) reported that honey production in the UK was 30% up on last year. Apparently it’s because bee keepers have got smarter! No mention of all the nasty things that man-made everything had been over come. Good news I guess, just a pity they can’t admit no one knows what the hell they are talking about when it come to climate and how bees etc etc work.. Just to explain, the ‘massive’ drop in bee population and hence honey production was all down to made made everything a year ago (so said the ‘neutral’ BBC).

Margaret Smith
Reply to  MikeA
November 26, 2014 3:37 pm

The BBC has this on Red Button ‘Science’ news today and makes me feel these ‘scientists’ really ARE evil:
“Schemes to tackle climate change could prove disastrous for billions of people, but might be required for the good of the planet, scientists say”
They are talking about geo-engineering such as giant mirrors or sunshades high above and also of means of sucking CO2 out of the atmosphere. They call these “unproven science”.
And hopefully always will be! I mean, billions of people……?

Reply to  Margaret Smith
November 26, 2014 6:44 pm

“Schemes to tackle climate change could prove disastrous for billions of people, but might be required for the good of the planet, scientists say”
======================
the road to hell is paved with good intentions. How is it that the “good of the planet” outweighs the interests of “billions of people”?
Human sacrifice for the “good of the planet” is a common theme throughout history. We look back and laugh in wonder at the people of the past, only to realize that they are us.

phlogiston
November 26, 2014 1:08 pm

Or it may not.
So the hell what?

November 26, 2014 1:20 pm

Let’s look at the bright side. The demise of exotic – now global – parasites is linked not only to their deteriorating competitive ability, but also to this exceptional period of climate non-change. This should be good news also for the bees.

November 26, 2014 1:22 pm

Darn. it’s just one damn thing after another from these guys, these days. Let’s hope that Global Warming wipes them out soon.
/s

Kon Dealer
November 26, 2014 1:30 pm

What rising temperatures?

Michael D
November 26, 2014 1:43 pm

I thought they were not supposed to say “warming” any more, but rather “extreme weather.” Or maybe you’re still allowed to say “warming” when worrying about the future?

Dawtgtomis
Reply to  Michael D
November 26, 2014 2:28 pm

All that gibberish from them means is, “if we don’t bankrupt the west soon, we’re doomed!”.

BFL
November 26, 2014 1:51 pm

As long as I can continue to buy bee vomit (honey) I’m happy.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Reply to  BFL
November 26, 2014 2:01 pm

Meanwhile in China, some people extol the virtues of pillows stuffed with silkworm poop. Perhaps someone can get a grant to model the effects of climate change on poop pillows for Chinese babies? The effects could be devastating.

Michael D
Reply to  BFL
November 26, 2014 2:44 pm

Don’t call me honey ;~>

Enginer
November 26, 2014 1:54 pm

I contacted a national apiculture group to suggest that global cooling was responsible for colony collapse, but got no traction. I did so after reading that iron molecules in the bee’s gut enable the workers to navigate back to the hive. Since Svesnmark has emphasized the importance of magnetic fields and the geomagnetic field on GCR infiltration, and strange things have been happening lately in those areas, it seemed likely a connection could be drawn…

Reply to  Enginer
November 26, 2014 5:01 pm

It wont cause a collapse, it’s a normal and natural thing that bees, wasps and other insects do. their eggs are very well protected from the elements as long as they’re not disturbed. That’s another issue. What’s lucky for man, thanks to his ingenuity, we can and do pollinate and fertilize our own crops systematically. We can even genetically modify them to be resistant against pests and improve their adaptation to environmental conditions.
Political science sucks balls..

Leigh
November 26, 2014 3:05 pm

“Researchers have found that the spread of an exotic honey bee parasite -now found worldwide – is linked not only to its superior competitive ability, but also to climate, according to a new study published in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B.”
Of course they did!
It’s just another one of many “daily” reasons on any given day to indoctrinate others into subscribing to the fraud.
I don’t think the realization that so many of their peers that are realigning themselves with reality has hit home.
The collapse of the global warming fraud is being brought about by their own “science”.
Persistent little buggars they are.

Richard
November 26, 2014 3:05 pm

And, this is because bees didn’t survive the last interglacial, which was warmer than the present one?

LogosWrench
November 26, 2014 3:18 pm

I love the term exotic parasite. It conveys more alarm like some sort of lab experiment gone off the rails compelling us to “Act Now!!!” Before we lose containment.
Will this crap ever stop?

Reply to  LogosWrench
November 26, 2014 4:07 pm

Well it started with the shaman of some primitive tribe thumping his walking stick on the ground at some unusual incident and proclaiming “gods angry, must appease, bring much food and treasure for sacrifice… store in my tent…”
So based on the last few thousand years trend…. this crap will, sadly, never stop.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 26, 2014 6:47 pm

hey, It beats working for a living. give me all your money and you will be saved.

John Boles
November 26, 2014 3:57 pm

Why do the bees not starve when we take their honey? I never did understand that.

Reply to  John Boles
November 26, 2014 4:45 pm

Domestic honey bee.

Mike Rossander
Reply to  John Boles
November 26, 2014 6:24 pm

Good evening, John – If you take too much honey too late in the year, the colony will starve. The art is in guessing how much is too much. Here in NorthEast Ohio, we need 80-90 lbs on the colony in November for them to make it through the average winter. Any excess can be taken by the beekeeper (and will actually get in the way of the bees if you don’t harvest it.)
An inexperienced beekeeper will sometimes take too much (or take it from the wrong place) too late in the year for the bees to replace those stores and the bees will die – usually in March. And if you have an unusually harsh winter, some of even the best beekeepers’ bees will die – they are a tropical species, after all.
By the way, honeybees are NOT domesticated.

Gbees
November 26, 2014 4:08 pm

Given global temperatures aren’t rising what’s the problem? Question is: given temperatures where bees currently reside are far in excess of postulated average global temperatures why isn’t the parasite doing its worst currently? Answer: it’s a natural occurrence and man should stay out of it.

November 26, 2014 4:43 pm

Hives go into prolonged hibernation when temperature drops. Dishonesty doesn’t apparently! 😉

Gary Pearse
November 26, 2014 5:20 pm

In the mid 1960s, I was a geologist with the Geological Survey of Nigeria. At the HQ compound in Kaduna, Northern Nigeria, was a large tree with a hole in it about a foot and a half high and foot wide (45cm x 30cm) issuing into a hollow in the centre of the tree. It was full of honey bees (I don’t know the type) but there was so much honey in it that an amber stripe of honey traced down the bark to the foot of the tree and the bees seemed to be still busy. So much for the famous lazy killer African bees that was the big scare, what, 30 years ago. I thought about the productive Nigerian bees at the time thinking another scary hoax in the making. Now researchers have found that the tag was not deserved after all, and the ”Africanized” bees are actually great honey producers and the European bees, favored in Latin America by comparison are fat and lazy.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bee-researchers-make-friends-africanized-killer/
Global warming should replace these fat, lazy Euro bees by real producers from the south, the way-down-south, all by itself, unless some real bee researchers over there come to the idea of bringing these little beauties up to Africanize their stock earlier. Some how Social Democrats have even got the bees on the dole.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 26, 2014 6:17 pm

Africanized bees! I remember that scare, it was around the height of solar activity for the 80-90s! I remember this because I took a month long trip to Germany with a few friends and my late brother one summer and it was hot.. we camped out in a ‘plumb orchard’ for a week in Schorndorf and seen how big wasps grew and how amazing the thunderstorms were.
The fireflies were an amazing sight.. and Stuttgart zoo was another place to be on the planet that year… just saying.. Now lets move forward to the present day, the summers have been cold in comparison and solar activity is down, and bees and wasps are going into prolonged hibernation. there is no anti correlation.
Maybe they don’t like global warming in the northern hemisphere, in the countries that are cooler now than they were just decades ago.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
November 26, 2014 6:55 pm

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/bee-researchers-make-friends-africanized-killer/
Great article. Liked this quote. Reminds me of “who moved my cheese”. Rather than whine and complain, adapt. Because change is the normal state of affairs, and trying to stop change is the path to ruin. here is the quote:
Rather than lamenting the loss of the fat and lazy European bee or fighting the scary African one, scientists are trying to breed new varieties of Mexican bees. “They think this is the best thing that ever happened to them in Brazil,” says Jose Luis Uribe Rubio, a lead researcher in the project who works out of the northern state of Querétaro. “In biological terms it is a superorganism. In terms of competition it’s better than the European bees.”

Reply to  ferdberple
November 26, 2014 6:57 pm

and this quote. says a lot about how to approach climate change:
“We need to come to the resolution and acceptance that this is the kind of bee we have now,” Guzman says. “That’s it. Period. Let’s work with it—let’s do the best we can do now.”

November 26, 2014 6:37 pm

Test. Fat and lazy Euro bees.

JBP
November 26, 2014 6:53 pm

Mathematical model predicts bee apocalypse. ….. details at 11. Probably the same model that predicts AGW.

Reply to  JBP
November 26, 2014 7:00 pm

if the model predicted bees will do better, it would have been modified until such time as it gave the desired result. torture the model long enough and it will confess to anything.

Reply to  ferdberple
November 26, 2014 7:10 pm

What model predicted life?

Robertvd
November 26, 2014 11:05 pm

There are fossils of bees very like modern honey bees which date back around 40 million years. There are also fossils of bee-like insects dated back to the early Cretaceous period, about 100 million years ago.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/65_Myr_Climate_Change.png
To bee or not to bee

pkatt
November 27, 2014 2:00 am

Our brown ground bees and the wild hive of honeys are thriving quite nicely. Perhaps they should look into the traveling bee circus because everywhere this parasite has become a problem is along the routes the bees for hire folks travel.

Ex-expat Colin
November 27, 2014 3:15 am

Must tell my Scots relatives that there tax bucks are being p*ssed up against a wall on this stuff.
And the solitary bees? Difficult to measure their game I suspect.

knr
November 27, 2014 4:13 am

“In the face of rising global temperatures, our findings suggest that it will increase in prevalence and potentially lead to increased honey bee colony losses in Britain.”
And now I paid homage to ‘the cause’ I can look forward to many more fat grant cheques whatever having to worry about if this claim has any value at all.

Patrick
November 27, 2014 4:27 am

As mentioned before, Australia is the only country that has a mite free bee population, and exports bee for pollenation purposes. Bee colonies are imploding. Varroa bee mite is spreading. Only a matter of time before the whole population is infected. However, bees are not the only pollenator, animals are too, just less efficient, and of course we don’t get honey.
I once transported ~90,000 bees, in 3 hives, for friends of mine back in 1994 for their farm in Cornwall, UK. Interesting couple of hundred mile ride. The aftermath where bees in the tranported hive ejected dead bees, and bees that died in battle with local populations. I probably would not do anything like that again, but the battle for “supremacy” was within the same specice of bee.

beng
November 27, 2014 5:21 am

Seems like the parasites & other issues indicate honeybee inbreeding is taking a toll, like inbreed dogs & cats. “Climate change” isn’t the issue.
Heard at some point Japanese honeybees can chew off some of the mites from each other. Wonder if the Africanized honeybees suffer from the mites?

richard
November 27, 2014 6:33 am

http://perc.org/articles/everyone-calm-down-there-no-bee-pocalypse
“US honey bee colony numbers are stable, and they have been since before CCD hit the scene in 2006. In fact, colony numbers were higher in 2010 than any year since 1999. How can this be? Commercial beekeepers, far from being passive victims, have actively rebuilt their colonies in response to increased mortality from CCD. Although average winter mortality rates have increased from around 15% before 2006 to more than 30%, beekeepers have been able to adapt to these changes and maintain colony numbers”

Jeff Alberts
November 27, 2014 7:18 pm

EEEEEK! CLIMATE ISN’T STATIC! EEEEK!!
(sorry for the caps, but I had to emulate the chicken littles)

Editor
November 28, 2014 4:52 am

There was a “surprise” in a bee lab study. IIRC it was in Germany. They found that the presence of GMO corn pollen caused a dramatic increase in parasite infestation. The bee is supposed to be unaffected by the BT Toxin engineered into the corn; but the real effect looks to be a (modest?) suppression of resistance or reduction of vigor. That opens the door for the parasite to cause hive collapse. I saw this report about a decade back. Then it was somewhat speculative, but I have no idea what’s happened on that front since.
We had loads of bees in Central Valley California ( highest I personally remember there was 117 F so not cold in summer) and their was (is?) a significant Africanized (killer) Bee problem in Phoenix Arizona (highest I personally remember there was 126 F when the airport tarmac melted while we were in town). The notion that bees get sick and die in heat is just Climate Grubering.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  E.M.Smith
November 28, 2014 9:47 am

You may have read an anti GMO paper. In large commercial apiaries in Ontario, Canada, they kill the bees in fall and order new bees in the spring. They arrive by mail!!!

General P. Malaise
November 28, 2014 12:49 pm

the bees in Africa and India are doing fine. seems the heat doesn’t bother them at all. but then they aren’t signatories to any warming bs like Kyoto, Copenhagen or Rio.

November 29, 2014 1:26 pm

I have noticed an increased interest in people becoming beekeepers on a small scale level and wonder if these efforts will help in the long run.

SocietalNorm
November 30, 2014 7:28 pm

Since they predict warming, the danger from the newer parasite which likes warmer temperatures increasing in numbers is emphasized. If they predicted cooling, the danger of the return of the older parasite increasing in numbers would be emphasized.
It is basically a boring but reasonable paper on evolution which is accepted for publication and hyped up because they can claim a link to Global Warming.

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