David DuByne writes: Early Snows & Lost Grain Tonnage Central Asia
Ural Mountains (Oct 03), USA Crop losses (Oct 11), Ukraine (Oct 22), Grain fields of Northern Kazakhstan snow and frost. As snows arrive earlier with a cooling phase on Earth, grain harvests and planting will be affected.
This video highlights such events during October 2014 in Central Asia.
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Very interesting video full of new information that I was not aware of.
Heard nothing of the early snows on the MSM.
Thank you.
It’s happening all over, see here for regular reports.
http://iceagenow.info/
Just pulled out all the highlights for an easy read.
What I found odd about your linked article is the claim that the early snow reduces corn yields, around here farmers actually wait for the ground to freeze before they harvest and it’s not unusual to see combines working in snow covered fields bringing in the corn. I have no idea about spring wheat, we grow winter wheat here and it’s harvested in late summer. Soybeans are being harvested right now, and with a sense of urgency, the weather is unseasonable nice right now. The Sugar beet harvest is very slow right now, the beets will rot if left in piles before it freezes, so they call only harvest as much as the plant can process.
At the end of this last August, it was snowing down to the 6,000 foot elevation in the Swiss Alps.
Robert Felix is a whack job fringe nut. Just go and look online and have an open mind.
I’m not surprised this wasn’t reported in the world press! The headline “Early snowfall in Kazakhstan” is not going to sell many newspapers in London.
However, if you kept your eye on the Business Section, you might have noticed an oil executive being killed at an airport in Moscow when his plane collided with a snowplough.
And on the sports pages, you could have read about Manchester City suffering from the minus 5 deg C weather when they played in Moscow last week.
As for the comment about snow down to 6000 feet in the Alps at the end of August – well, now at the end of October, guess how deep it is in the French Alps at 7500 feet? Zero, as reported by Meteo Chamonix. Late summer snow is not unusual at that height, but doesn’t last.
@Paul Jackson. Corm means a cereal crop in the Queens English rather than sweet corn. That might be the misunderstanding.
There’s nothing new about grain storage problems. Insects, rodents, mold etc. have been “an ongoing problem since the dawn of agriculture.”
Natural drying isn’t always effective so heated drying is frequently used before storage. Storage can also minimize mold etc. by using “chemical and controlled atmosphere storage. Of the two, controlled atmosphere (CA) storage is safer, appears more “environmental” and thus, more desirable.”
Over drying grains produces a shrinkage problem (profit loss).
Its up to the farmer to decide crop planting and rotation to minimize harvesting costs and risks. Weather is a key consideration for planning so the better the projection the better the result for the farmer.
Seed selection (winter hardiness) is also a consideration.
Bottomline: don’t blame crop losses on the weather and vertical growing is absurd when one considers the scale of global production.
Source:
http://www.co2meter.com/blogs/news/6077164-controlled-atmosphere-storage-using-carbon-dioxide
You should look at the Eurasian snow coverage patterns in October across Siberia and Canada – it’s a fine indication of hard winters to come apparently. This year the snow across Eastern Siberia right down to Lake Baikal has come early and the snow covered areas are far, far higher than average. You can usually find pictoral representations of this quite easily through Google searches…….
Yes, thank you so much for this info!
More signs of global warming and late winter snow.
I have friends in Romania and they also said it was snowing on Sunday and very cold. Certainly a little early for snow.I do remember the snow storm that hit here in the Northeast over the Halloween weekend a few years ago. That one also was much earlier then expected. Since then the winters have turned colder with much more snow.Reminds me of the snows we used to have years ago.
foxmuldar,
here is the story reported today.
Global warming’s grip is as tight as ever in the hottest year evaaaaaah. They will tell you this surely.
They’re ALREADY told us. Just like the old Soviet elections, the Fewfacts meeja have already declared 2014 the Hottest Evah before the event. (As indicated by the huge recovery in Arctic ice, record Antarctic ice, 6C colder Great Lakes than even last year, deep snow in much of Australia in during beach season, deep snow on Mt Rushmore in late summer, a ridiculously cool US summer, rainy European summer, snow in Hawaii, subtropical Istanbul and Dallas buried in snow like Montreal, a US hurricane season that was basically cancelled this year, and all the other signals predicted by the GW models.)
foxmuldar, try and keep up, please.
Snow is a thing of the past.
Our children are not going to know what snow is.
Haven’t you read the Guardian and Telegraph headlines?
There’s been snow in Switzerland down to 1000m last week, but it’s mostly melted quite a way back up the mountains already. 60 – 80cm fell in the most affected areas……..
Gabavo, 35 hours continuous snowfall causing black outs: http://iceagenow.info/2014/10/gabrovo-continuous-snowfall-35-hours/
Not happening in the UK where temps remain high at 18-20C today.
Here in Canada, our coastal provinces tend to have more moderate temps year round, compared to the interior of ROC. Here in Ont we’re getting a 16-17C day tomorrow. That’s the weather for ya, always changing.
Ops, one correction Mardler, revised weather for tomorrow, 20C and sunny – el bonus!
I live in north central Arkansas (fairly close to the center of America, but still considered the “South”) and we had a very mild Summer, enough so that everybody noticed and talked about it all season. After a bit of a cool snap in very late Summer, we’re now enjoying a marvelous autumn. The temps would probably be considered “warm” for this time of year, though certainly not out of the ordinary. We’ve all been loving it, enjoying it. Praying we don’t get a repeat of last winter. One really harsh winter can make people really appreciate some warmth. Take away last year’s winter and I’d gladly accept my local clime over any other on earth. I know we had 10-15 years of warmer weather in the past (in my clime) but it really does seem like we’ve reached a tipping point and the “hot” is in decline. I am old enough to accept the changes in temps and weather. It’s been cycling for all my life. Cheers!
Mardler, where did you get that BS from? Yes, the papers were predicting that, but in actuality – http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/education/teachers/weather-data-uk-archive-show?ts=1414418400 – at 1400 today only a smattering of stations were at 18C and the mean was much lower.
I don’t deny it’s been a mild day, but not overly warm. Yet another case of exaggeration by MSM.
Rich.
Could please explain the contradiction in that sentence, HIGH and 18-20C.
No worry…our new Environment Secretary Elizabeth Truss in UK has got it covered. Snow should deal with it or likely us!
Yep, she certainly takes that interviewer Andrew Neil apart. She is just the sort of informed political appointee that we need to guide our energy future /sarc off.
Further to that, there is an eye watering piece below (D. Telegraph) that informs us of the con run by the wind turbine goons. BWEA claimed that electricity from wind turbines ‘displaces’ 860 grams of carbon dioxide emission for every kilowatt hour of electricity generated.
The UK ASA has forced them to halve that…..eh?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/3867232/Promoters-overstated-the-environmental-benefit-of-wind-farms.html
2008…oh sh*t- sorry
Three times Andrew Neil said there has been “no global warming for 18 years”. He also said that “all scientists agree about that”.
That’s patently false. The only main global data set that shows no warming over 18 years (past 216 months) is the RSS satellite set, which is flat. The four others, including the UAH satellite set, all show warming.
According to UAH there has been a further +0.18C warming since 1998. GISS says +0.15C; NCDC says +0.12C and HadCRUT says +0.13C. This is easy to check and the UK Environment Secretary should have been able to contest Neil’s false assertion instead of waffling.
And this is the best the British can do ? I have a grandson of 6 years that along side this idiot has an IQ of 15,000 The only thing missing is in her name it should be TRUSSED-UP
Actually, I think she did very well. That’s a pretty tight line she had to walk there under some tough but fair questions from Andrew Neil. I liked that she is allowing for possible emergence of new technology and down played reliance on wind. I still question the necessity or wisdom of investing or subsidizing solar, but was pleased to hear that solar is no longer being favoured on agricultural land – that at least makes good sense.
She was very careful not to contradict the scientific advice she has been given, and she used the word “adapt” a number of times. She pointed out that voters want to know that stuff is being done to make sure that extremes of weather (I don’t agree that weather has become more ‘erratic’) can be coped with by infrastructure – regardless of the cause. I certainly agree with that.
I don’t think she ‘took apart’ the interviewer, but she handled it as well as you could expect.
Agnostic:
The smooth-faced Cameron likes her type. But see now what that Paterson is about. You can’t talk it away. Cameron now has to wriggle for his political life.
For the non-UK readers, the previous minister Owen Patterson was sacked in sacrifice to the green blob and because he was far too competent. He understood that the Environment Agency was responsible for the flooding in the south-west earlier this year, urged on by EU policy. Having been agriculture minister in Northern Ireland earlier, he is probably the only minister to fully understand how the EU works as demonstrated during the horsemeat scandal when he had to point out to the opposition member that the UK was not permitted to do the things she wanted doing as it was not permitted by the EU. It also gave our PM – Call Me Dave – the chance to put a female in the cabinet to replace one who had to resign – eventually – for stealing taxpayers’ money.
Telling the truth is hard.
… we have to adapt wheather patterns…
Can it become more stupid?
Yah they move to California to get away from rain and cold….then complain about it being drier than usual
Why doesn’t anybody call these people on their terminology? A few seconds in and she’s talking about “carbon” emissions. Is this woman not even aware of the fundamental difference between an element and a molecule? Why don’t people embarrass these talking heads? I learned the difference in grade school. Are they really seeking to reduce carbon emissions? Or CO2 emissions? These people are clueless and just asking to be taken down by a 7th grader. All this woman knows is policy, tax monies and lobbying. Indeed, if she even knows anything about that. She’s just a suit bucking for a check, parroting what she is told. (cheque, sorry)
Here is a link for the snow and crops in the Ural mountains.
A sure sign of declining fall snow in the Northern Hemisphere. Get ready for less winter snow say the climate scientists. LOL.
Cold and snow news worldwide from October from 1st – 27th. Remember that cold is now a sign of global warming.
Turkey – 230 sheep fall from a cliff due to snow and fog – 100 sheep still lost.-
Greece – Sheep trapped in snow
Up to 80cm of snow this week in Switzerland
Bulgaria – Heavy snowfall leaves 50 villages without power
Romania – Snow up to 10 centimeters
Kazakhstan – Harvesting under 20 cm of snow and minus 10 degrees C
Snow causes chaos in western Austria
Sweden braces for snow
Heavy early snowfall in North America and Siberia may portend brutal winter for U.S. and Europe
Heavy AUTUMN snow blankets Mohe City
Dramatic temperature drops in northern China
Glaciers on K-2, the 2nd highest peak on Earth, are growing
Heavy snowfall causes panic in Yekaterinenburg
Siberian snow cover way ahead of schedule – Near record pace
Nepal death toll now 43 and rising -“Cold so severe it froze your eyelids.”
Snowfall headed for Moscow this weekend
“Freak” Nepal blizzards and avalanches kill at least 29, including hikers, yak herders and guides
Winter storm warning for Clyde River
Heavy snow in Kyrgyzstan – Four people frozen to death
Snowfall warning for Northwest Territories
Rare snow in the Urals hits crop production
Kansas – Earliest frost on record – Growing season now third shortest on record
Winter storm for Fairbanks
Winter Arrives Early in Alaska, says meteorologist
Snow and cold endanger harvest in Kyrgyzstan and Mid-Ural
Autumn snow hampers traffic on the Ural
Snowfall warnings for much of northern Manitoba
Peoria – 2nd earliest snowfall on record
2nd earliest snowfall on record in Rockford, Illinois
Chicago – Third earliest snowfall on record
Earliest snowfall ever on record in Eau Claire
Heavy snow comes to northwestern Ontario
130 year record low in Vladivostok
Florida 20 degrees below normal by Sunday
Harsh winter cut Michigan wine grape crop in half
Winter has arrived at Holuhraun
Snowfall warnings for Nunavut- October 1st
How many of the above deaths, injuries, and financial losses could have been averted had climatologists and the MSM embraced a scientific view of current climate trends rather than the political view that human CO2 emissions were heating the globe and melting ice and snow?
They owe mankind not only for squandered tax monies, but for failing to advise for the effects of possible global cooling.
The Great Lakes region continues to be the victim of unrelenting heatwaves caused by global warming. Water levels up, late ice this past spring, and now this. The models predicted it!
http://notrickszone.com/2014/10/25/natural-catastrophes-drop-to-10-year-low-weather-related-losses-mostly-due-to-cold-events/
Glaciers in retreat?
But according to the Guardian this is what we expect from Global Warming.
global-warming-has-doubled-risk-harsh-winters-eurasia-research-finds
Of course they were saying the opposite 18 months ago.
And the curious thing is those commenters who appear on both threads and have no problem endorsing both, unquestioningly.
Ref. Doublethink – The power to hold two completely contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accept both of them.
M Courtney, the Guardian is confused. All positions back their claims of global warming. Here is George Monbiot at work over the years.
Why can’t Monbiot come out of the closet and state clearly that he is confused?
Jimbo, I am aware of the weakness of the Guardian’s environment section. Indeed, I just put a comment there that concluded, “Any theory that can be adapted to predict anything happening anywhere at anytime is of no practical use. It is Junk Science.”.
I also linked to the previous article and asked those commenters how they reconciled their two positions.
But unfortunately, it seems my comments have been accidentally deleted.
It must be a computer glitch at the Guardian Towers.
I have an entertaining little ditty about dear old G Moonbat…
That same story was carried by Bloomberg;
. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-26/arctic-ice-melt-seen-doubling-risk-of-harsh-winter-in-eu.html
The stunning rationalizations within the Nat. Geo. piece would be vilified by honest reporters and publishers, but instead, are amplified and expanded by the Bloomberg crew.
In no way does this invalidate the science of AGW.
http://notrickszone.com/2014/10/26/the-unending-pause-ipcc-scientist-prof-mojib-latif-now-sees-global-warming-pause-extending-to-30-years/
This is why I moved back to Australia with my family, from the UK – latitude 25 degrees south, with the option of if all else fails walking another 10 degrees closer to the equator.
Get out of the frozen North while you can – when the world catches on to what is happening, the rush for the exit will force warm countries like Australia to shut the gates to new arrivals.
I wouldn’t have made that posting. Next thing there will be parking meters along the esplanade.
Snow flattened near-ripe grain in Central Alberta on September 8. So it is.
Saw 14 degrees F even in Moscow.
With all the Economic sanctions, Russia
had better hope they have enough energy for a brutal winter.
Russia has many times more energy than it needs. It’s the EU that had better hope Russia keeps their surplus flowing west.
Apparently what Russia is doing is making sure they have enough food.
ATTN: this was scrubbed within hours of publication
“Russian media has confirmed that Russian “humanitarian convoys” are robbing and removing Ukrainian enterprises located in a territory controlled by Russian-backed terrorists supported by Russian troops, as well as taking Ukrainian specialists with them.
Vesti.ru reported on the launch of a private company, Luhansk Machinostroitel, as a new entity for the Luhansk Machine Building plant, newly located in the settlement of Cheboksary in Chuvashiya, Russia. 23 people and their families were taken out from the combat zone, along with machines and equipment so as to continue work in the new location.” http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/08/29/ukraine-under-invasion-looting-east-and-dithering-west/
http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/21-08-2014/128340-climate_cooling_food_supplies-0/
good article from Pravada
Current warning for Bor, Eastern Serbia………………..hmmnnn
Severe Weather Alerts – Bor, Bor
Yellow Warning for Extreme Low Temperature
Yellow Warning for Extreme Low Temperature in effect from Tuesday, 12:00 AM CET until Tuesday, 11:59 PM CET. Source: Republic Hydrometeorological Service of Serbia
Frost – Minimum temperature lower than 0°CIMPACT: Unfavourable conditions for chronically sick, people under therapy and medical control or meteoropaths. Possible big damage to agriculture– vegetable, vineyards and fruit are especially vulnerable. For agricultural production lakes of cold air are particularly dangerous , especially if this weather situation takes several consecutive days.
Oh, but it’s just weather. Warmer air holds more moisture so global warming causes more snow.
/sarc (although most of us have heard that rationalization from the climate fearosphere)
The sea ice data page shows a good comparison satellite pic of NH snow cover vs 2007.
Just one word for all the damaged crops: ethanol. I foresee a vast new ethanol based economy that will heat our homes, propel our cars and what’s left over- ravage our livers.
Now I just have to smile. Ravaged livers!
The hootch does not stop at livers but the gray matter, too, gets pickled. And the world turns.
I’m afraid with unseasonal cold in the NH and the SH, we have to rethink this hottest year business. I actually predicted unseasonal cold was likely in southern Australia – no big feat with Antarctic ice having almost 2Msqkm greater ice extent than ‘normal’ at the maximum this year. South Africa should be cooler too.
Not likely, for South Africa, at least. The sea ice to the south of South Africa is pretty close to its long-term median extent, and in any case is about 2000 km away. Meanwhile, the sea water around southern Africa is warmer than normal, and indeed, the early part of the summer has been on the warm side across most of the Highveld
Our poor, dumb, sock-puppet of a Poohtus has pulled out all the stops in his climate alarmist campaign these past few months, with the intention of getting out the gullible vote. And now this-…record cold and early winter. Give up, Poohtus.
Jeb Bush gets the Hoover Institution nod, cap & trade, he’ll get ‘er done.
A remote relative of mine used to grow various sorts of grain on a little island in the North Sea. This island, called Pellworm, is a very rainy place. Back in the 70s, he got himself a grain drying system, a major investment, but evidently he felt it was worth it – as far as I can tell, the farm was well run and economically successful. I’m wondering whether any commercial grain drying systems are powerful enough to salvage the grain harvested in the snow.
my father always found it a fine line as to how dry he made his corn, didn’t want to make it to dry as you loose weight – less money.
Grain driers are pretty much standard equipment in the US. The moisture content of the grain is one of the factors in its sale price.
Yes, but are they powerful enough to deal with the melting snow? How much snow/water remains after the grain has passed through the harvester?
My suspicion is that combines are adjusted to capture seeds of a certain size, so most snow or ice is ejected with either the straw or the chaft and really doesn’t have a big effect on harvested grain. I wouldn’t be surprised if the machinery clogs wouldn’t be more of a factor than grain moisture.
Good points.
For forecasts of the timing and extent of the coming cooling based on the natural 1000 and 60 year quasi-periodicities which are very obvious in the temperature data and using the 10Be and neutron count data as the best proxy for solar ‘activity” see
http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com
Here are the conclusions of the latest post.
“In earlier posts on this site http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com at 4/02/13 and 1/22/13
I have combined the PDO, ,Millennial cycle and neutron trends to estimate the timing and extent of the coming cooling in both the Northern Hemisphere and Globally.
Here are the conclusions of those posts.
1/22/13 NH Forecast
1) The millennial peak is sharp – perhaps 18 years +/-. We have now had 16 years since 1997 with no net warming – and so might expect a sharp drop in a year or two – 2014/16 – with a net cooling by 2035 of about 0.35.Within that time frame however there could well be some exceptional years with NH temperatures +/- 0.25 degrees colder than that.
2) The cooling gradient might be fairly steep down to the Oort minimum equivalent which would occur about 2100. (about 1100 on Fig 5) ( Fig 3 here) with a total cooling in 2100 from the present estimated at about 1.2 +/-.
3) From 2100 on through the Wolf and Sporer minima equivalents with intervening highs to the Maunder Minimum equivalent which could occur from about 2600 – 2700 a further net cooling of about 0.7 degrees could occur for a total drop of 1.9 +/- degrees.
4) The time frame for the significant cooling in 2014 – 2016 is strengthened by recent developments already seen in solar activity. With a time lag of about 12 years between the solar driver proxy and climate we should see the effects of the sharp drop in the Ap Index which took place in 2004/5 in 2016-17.
4/02/13Global Forecast
1 Significant temperature drop at about 2016-17
2 Possible unusual cold snap 2021-22
3 Built in cooling trend until at least 2024
4 Temperature Hadsst3 moving average anomaly 2035 – 0.15
5 Temperature Hadsst3 moving average anomaly 2100 – 0.5
6 General Conclusion – by 2100 all the 20th century temperature rise will have been reversed,
7 By 2650 earth could possibly be back to the depths of another little ice age.
8 The effect of increasing CO2 emissions will be minor but beneficial – they may slightly ameliorate the forecast cooling and help maintain crop yields .
9 Warning !! There are some signs in the Livingston and Penn Solar data that a sudden drop to the Maunder Minimum Little Ice Age temperatures could be imminent – with a much more rapid and economically disruptive cooling than that forecast above which may turn out to be a best case scenario.”
3.2 2014 Updates and Observations..
3.2.1 Updates
a) NH Forecast- item 4. With regard to timing, closer examination of the Ap Index (Fig13) and Neutron Count (Fig.14) would suggest that the sharpest drop in activity is better placed at 2005/6 with the associated sharp temperature drop now forecast at 2017-18.
b) Global Forecast – item1. Significant temperature drop now forecast for 2017-18.
c) Global Forecast – item 9. Another year of flat Livingston and Penn umbral data suggests that a swift decline into a Maunder Minimum is now very unlikely.
3.2.2. Observations.
a) Solar Cycle 24 peak.
During the last year, Solar cycle 24 developed a second and higher Sunspot peak in February 2014 and activity has declined sharply since then. This decline should be reflected in a rapid increase in the Neutron Count in another 4 or 5 months, and the possible beginning of a more pronounced cooling phase. The sharp decline in solar activity since February may also lead to the non-appearance of the much anticipated El Nino.
b) The Polar Vortex Excursions.
I will quote again from the 2010 forecast:
“There will be a steeper temperature gradient from the tropics to the poles so that violent thunderstorms with associated flooding and tornadoes will be more frequent in the USA. At the same time the jet stream will swing more sharply North – South thus local weather in the Northern hemisphere in particular will be generally more variable with occasional more northerly heat waves and more southerly unusually cold snaps”
This forecast was spectacularly confirmed by the early 2014 excursions of the Polar Vortex into the United States. Indeed, as I write this in Houston on July 29, 2014 another unusually early Canadian front has just gone through Houston with heavy rains and thunderstorms. This is a harbinger of weather patterns which will become more frequent on a cooling planet. As the excursions occur later in the spring and begin earlier in the fall, the snow cover finally never melts over the NE of the American continent and after a few thousand years full ice age conditions will develop, as suggested by Steve Goddard:”
I’m fully anticipating next year when the warmists pull out charts showing a drop in wheat production, shouting; I told you global warming was going to reduce food production.
So what if ultimately, the CO2 feedback cycle is for cooling? That bit of irony would totally suck! And the warmists would be right for all the wrong reasons. Plus we’d only be making things worse when we tried to stay warm.
So there’s your cheery thought for the day.
DrTorch
October 27, 2014 at 8:07 am
“So what if ultimately, the CO2 feedback cycle is for cooling? That bit of irony would totally suck! And the warmists would be right for all the wrong reasons.”
That was the theory of the climate scientists from ca. 1975 to 1988 (as their extrapolations always have a lag to the climate of a decade).