Eric Worrall writes: The BMJ (British Medical Journal), one of the oldest and most distinguished medical journals in the world, has categorically stated that climate change is a more serious issue than Ebola.
According to Fiona Godlee, editor in chief of the BMJ
“Deaths from Ebola infection, tragic and frightening though they are, will pale into insignificance when compared with the mayhem we can expect for our children and grandchildren if the world does nothing to check its carbon emissions. And action is needed now.”
Lets consider;
We have a disease raging out of control in Africa, threatening the borders of America and other Western countries – a disease which may be one mutation away from being utterly unstoppable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2778022/UN-Ebola-chief-raises-nightmare-prospect-virus-mutate-airborne.html
We have an apparent lack of vigilance against this threat, with US doctors allegedly not considering the possibility of Ebola, when presented with a patient who recently travelled from one of the afflicted countries.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/01/health/ebola-us/index.html
And now we have educated intellectuals, on whose skills we depend to defend us from this threat, attempting to deflect attention away from something which threatens our lives right now, onto something which, even if they are right, cannot possibly threaten anyone’s life for decades to come.
How can a presumably educated person hold a viewpoint which is so stupid?
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I must say that I am a little bit surprised at the naivety expressed in these comments.
As a physician, let me state — the primary purpose of most all medical researchers and virtually all journal editors is not to further medical research and disseminate the latest medical findings to optimize health and minimize morbidity and mortality.
Their primary purpose is to obtain more funding for what they are doing. Hence — the tripe about “Climate change being more of a threat than Ebola”. . . .
Wow! Will you be my doctor? Oops! I’m not actually sick and don’t intend to be.
I, actually, do admire your honesty.
Ah So. When one finds himself in the arena, it serves him to follow their rules.
“As a physician, let me state — the primary purpose of most all medical researchers and virtually all journal editors is not to further medical research and disseminate the latest medical findings to optimize health and minimize morbidity and mortality. ”
Well sometimes, as in the many pub-med articles about phenyl butyl nitrone, it actually may be, but will come to naught anyway because there is no useful government or charitable program in place to provide for human testing and approval of a non-proprietary compound. It’s all about protecting big pharma. As one ex FDA director said in a documentary (paraphrased); we will not approve any anti cancer drug developed by an individual or small company, only deep pocket corporations need apply. So just how many good compounds are out there that aren’t available because of this attitude.
When you allow politicians and political hacks to manage health care they quickly incorporate political initiatives into their political directives under the guise of protecting the common man. The days of empirical evidence based medicine which targets no voting blocks is a casualty to the new paradigm.
There may be a bit of hope.. http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/
Lamivudine, an HIV antiviral droppod mortality to 13% and to 0% for those getting it early.
Its most definitely worth investigating, but we also need to know if the patients the doctor treated had HIV as well as Ebola. Giving a HIV drug to someone who had HIV and Ebola might be misinterpreted as successfully treating the Ebola.
Read the article. To me it reads as: Folks did NOT have HIV. Folks did have Ebola. Doctor tried antivirals that did work on HIV, starting with Acyclovir (that failed) and found one that worked.
I’d also expect that if you have HIV, not much can save you from Ebola since your immune system is kaput…
I agree its definitely worth trying – any good news is worth following up, in this ongoing train wreck.
I presume that the ‘so called’ BMJ is a government funded publication.
“Climate change” means “Surrender your property, freedom, and rights to the collective.”
“Climate change” is just gibberish to get you to accept the unacceptable. It is a nonsense phrase.
If given the choice of being infected with Ebola or climate change, who would choose Ebola? Anyone?
I see this as evidence that climate change is making us all more stupider.
Yup, you’re definitively living proof. Some of us do stay in the shade skepticism provides so that the CAGW sun doesn’t dehydrate our brains 😉
When climate change causes the Zombie apocalypse, who are the brain-hungry undead corpses going to eat first? Those with more brains or less?
It’s not just the British journal.
Howard Bauchner is the Journal of American Medical Association (JAMA) Editor-in-Chief
To see screeds from recent JAMA issues, click here:
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1909928#FramingClimateChangeandHealth
(howard.bauchner@jamanetwork.org).
Someone should mention to the esteemed doctors, “If your kids die of Ebola, there will NEVER BE grandchildren to wring their hands over the unproved uncertainty of Climate Change(TM)”.
FIRST THINGS FIRST.
Indeed – skewed priorities.
brent
October 3, 2014 at 4:10 am
It’s not just the Medical Hierarchy: The CAGW Disease has already infected the rank and file
Here’s a report from 2008 by the Ontario College of Family Physicians which simply regurgitates the same usual dogma and drivel of which we are all aware:
http://ocfp.on.ca/docs/committee-documents/health-effects-of-climate-change.pdf?sfvrsn=4
http://ocfp.on.ca/cme/offerings/environmental-health/climate-change-and-health
Addressing the Health Effects of Climate Change:
Family Physicians Are Key
This is a landmark review of the science of climate change and its impacts on human health –nowand in the near future. Climate change has led to a great deal of concern amongst Canadians and a world-wide debate on the strategies that are needed to address this all encompassing health issue. In spite of the concerns of governments a
nd people around the world, physicians and thehealth care sector in general have been relatively silent on an issue that will have major impacts on the health of the people they serve and in the communities in which they practice.
http://ocfp.on.ca/docs/public-policy-documents/addressing-the-health-impacts-of-climate-change-family-physicians-are-key.pdf?sfvrsn=3
http://www.cfp.ca/content/59/5/462.full?sid=d2c65e34-6cf8-44b8-a094-469f0ac13c15
brent
In a posting of October 3, 2014 at 6:49 am, Brent quoted: ” Courtney Howard is an emergency physician in Yellowknife, a mother and a board member for the Canadian Association of Physicians for the Environment. @courtghoward”.
I have followed the Canadian Association of Physicians for the Environment a bit. The executive director is one Gideon Forman. I have seen at least three, maybe as many as five, letters from Forman in the Globe and Mail. Forman has no medical qualifications. Instead his CV includes a session in creative writing at the Banff Centre.
Ian
In Australia a similar organisation was established called Doctor’s for the Environment Australia.( DEA). It is one of many front groups established by the socialist left/greens Labor Party during the previous government to promote the cause and to purport to speak on behalf a professional group (in this case the medical profession) .The guy who set it up in Aust. is a known socialist activist. DEA recruits in naïve medical students to bolster numbers and convert them to the leftist way, whilst acting as the official voice of medicine to fool the public. Interestingly the DEA also pushes euthanasia, population control, etc . It would seem to me that its ideology contradicts the Hippocratic Oath and the medial profession should expose it for what it is. Beware the wolf in sheep’s clothing.
——- a session in creative writing at the Bumph Centre. (Bumpf is bum fluff).
Pegasus
Gideon Forman, also holds a Certificate in Renewable Energy from the University of Toronto.
http://www.pegasusconference.ca/gideon-forman
University of Toronto School of the Environment
Renewable Energy Certificate Program requires four courses:
Principles of Renewable Energy
Biofuels
Electives 2 of 3 courses:
Wind Energy. One of the two required text books is by Paul Gipe, 2004 edition
Urban Energy Systems
Solar Energy
http://www.learn.environment.utoronto.ca and follow the links.
I left the complete posting by Brent in my own posting by error…..
Ian
A quick detour in subject matter ….
Do those that have been infected and have recovered posses the viral immunity? Or is it like a cold … no true immunity, so the health workers will not return to the scene of their infection.
I’ve think found my answer [Ref. Huff. Post article]. No one is really sure. They think that there is an extended immunity, but that it may be limited to the subject strain (it appears that there are five differing known strains at this time).
So, Miss Godlee cannot be sure about Ebola immunity possibilities but she is positive that (increased) CO2 will cause such mayhem that the Ebola problem will pale in comparison….
These pipers play every strain. From what I gather, the JAMA plays the tune and American rank and file doctors… dance.
https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
AMA = second biggest lobbying group in Washington @ur momisugly $310 million.
Why the AMA Wants to Muzzle Your Doctor WSJ, 2010
http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703961104575226323909364054
JAMA represents 17% of American doctors.
There’s a far bigger worry. Patients who recover continue to shed dangerous levels of virus for weeks after their recovery, there have been cases of patients who recover infecting their girlfriends when they leave hospital.
So what are the odds that some victims who recover will become long term carriers?
Obama says don’t worry. He’s got our backs.
Without such knowledge, how could any health worker try to discuss the Ebola situation at all?
Dr. Godlee is not the British Medical Journal. She does not represent medical doctors in UK. Shall we take her seriously? Only if you take seriously Michael Mann’s opinion on how to cure Ebola. Take the good doctor’s advice for its entertainment value. Laughter is the best medicine.
Knowledge alone does not produce wisdom. Transforming knowledge into wisdom requires input from the heart. Ergo, Godlee is heartless.
Fiona Godlee’s editorial has attracted appropriate derision and incredulity that a Natural Science graduate could write such drivel. The question by aGrimm on 3rd October@1.45am on why so many journals have been taken over by cranks with agendas is one that needs an answer.
Unfortunately she is not the only one.
The Veterinary Record – the journal of the BVA, is also published by the BMJ. The VR editor has also displayed green Guardian -type ideology not only what he prints but also a tendency to censor letters which are “inconvenient”. Apparently the BVA council has, from my feedback, little influence in the Editorial office. One improvement it did make, however, was the appointment of a veterinary academic as Editor in Chief about 2 years ago, Professor Lord Alexander Trees.
I have tried to redress this CAGW bias in several letters to the VR. My most recent contribution was here 31.3.14@4.29am which also has a link to my post on 23.7.2012.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/30/a-timed-for-ipcc-report-claim-meeting-climate-targets-may-require-reducing-meat-and-dairy-consumption/
Could it possibly be that the BVA is in the pocket of DEFRA and the BMA is in the pocket of the Ministry of Health and have to tow the ‘Guvment’ CAGW line? The funding connection, as suggested by various commenters, is a very plausible one.
I have to totally agree with James Delingpole’s sentiments in his Brietbart column.
Michael,
I figured out for myself in the 97-98 timeframe there was only the remotest possibility that the GCM’s would be validated, therefore the CAGW agenda was a scam. This was a real shock to me at the time since I had previously no idea that this sort of thing was going on
I subsequently followed very closely in real time the UK 2001 FMD epidemic, and I quickly realised we had another instance of GIGO modelling in the service of politics.
There were a number of Veterinarians, outstanding individuals, who tried to do the right thing, however the profession did not stand up to the government
Instead of allowing the Vets who knew what they doing handle the outbreak, the policy was taken over by the government Chief Scientist, Sir David King and his junk-modelling sidekick Roy Anderson.
Roger Windsor was a very senior Vet, a member of the RCVS disciplinary committee who sought to bring to attention that Vets were violating their oaths by signing false certificates under pressure from MAFF/DEFRA
His very angry letter, all warranted in my view, is worth reviewing
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR INSTITUTIONS?
Roger Windsor’s talk, read on his behalf, to the Central Veterinary Society
http://www.warmwell.com/nov11windsor.html
Paul Kitching was another of the upstanding individuals who tried to do the right thing
Carnage from a computer
WE ARE USED to politicians suppressing the truth. When scientists do it as well, we are in trouble. Not one of the Government’s senior advisers, from Sir David King, the chief scientist, downwards, has yet dared to confirm in public what most experts in private now accept, that the mass slaughter of farm animals in the 2001 foot-and-mouth outbreak was not only unnecessary and inhumane, but was also based on false statistics, bad science and wrong deductions.
http://tinyurl.com/28z67y
Use and abuse of mathematical models:
an illustration from the 2001 foot and mouth
disease epidemic in the United Kingdom
R.P. Kitching (1), M.V. Thrusfield (2) & N.M. Taylor
Summary
Foot and mouth disease (FMD) is a major threat, not only to countries whose economies rely on agricultural exports, but also to industrialised countries that maintain a healthy domestic livestock industry by eliminating major infectious diseases from their livestock populations. Traditional methods of controlling diseases such as FMD require the rapid detection and slaughter of infected animals, and any susceptible animals with which they may have been in contact, either directly or indirectly. During the 2001 epidemic of FMD in the United Kingdom (UK), this approach was supplemented by a culling policy driven by unvalidated predictive models. The epidemic and its control resulted in the death of approximately ten million animals, public disgust with the magnitude of the slaughter, and political resolve to adopt alternative options, notably including vaccination, to control any future epidemics. The UK experience provides a salutary warning of how models can be abused in the interests of scientific opportunism.
http://www.oie.int/doc/ged/D3278.PDF
Following the outbreak of SARS, one thing was certain: Professor Roy Anderson of Imperial College would soon be hitting the headines.
http://www.warmwell.com/2may1pe.html
Sir David King, claimed that his handling of the FMD epidemic made his reputation as it was early in his tenure as Chief Scientism-ist(sarc), and claimed it as a success justifying increased influence of “science” in policymaking.
Nothing could be further from the truth. David King and his sidekick Roy Anderson should have been drawn, quartered and c@strated for what they did.
Even rookie modelers, as long as they were well intentioned should not have made the
“mistakes” these people did.
Lesson to be learned: it would be rare for any so called profession whose privileges are regulated by the government, to stand up against a corrupt government that can reduce/minimize the professions privileges.
Lets see if Fiona Godlee, editor in chief of the BMJ changed her quote slightly. It would not be so bad.
“Deaths from Ebola infection, tragic and frightening though they are, will pale into insignificance when compared with the mayhem we can expect for our children and grandchildren if the world does nothing to increase its carbon emissions. and prevent its decent into the next glaciation action is needed now.”
Yeah I guess they are right about Ebola because evidently we are already prepared to sacrifice any number of lives in that part of the world to prevent CO2 going up 50ppm. Give ’em all the aid you can but don’t let them have cheap energy and a way out of poverty. Racism is rife among the gang green, it’s just a little obfuscated by weaselly save-the-planet words. This is truly a disgusting performance by doctors of all people – ‘first do no harm’ indeed. If Ebola gets a foothold in UK, the planet can take a back seat.
It could be true and, alarmingly, more people die of hypothermia than hitherto. The trend is double
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9078273/Hypothermia-deaths-double-over-five-years.html
The debate is over. Climate change is the root cause of everything, so yes, it therefore must be worse than Ebola.
They are quite right it is a more serious issue in that climate change taxation has caused hundreds more deaths in one year alone in just the UK than Ebola has caused world wide since the start of the epidemic.
Good thing they don’t seem to be biting people (for now at least). If it gets warmer though…
Lunacy from British Doctors: “Climate Change is worse than Ebola”
God help Britain. There was a news item that Ebola would arrive in Britain by the end of this month, But the doctors are instead preparing for thermageddon.
Are these geriatricians, brain surgeons or psychiatrists one wonders. Maybe they require lobotomy or electric-shock therapy?
I don’t know if it’s worse than ebola, because there’s news out there saying ebola is another false flag, but this video shows a Rockefeller Foundation brochure describing a global pandemic used to justify a global fascist regime – so Bill McKibbens and the ebola pandemic may share a common funding source. Then there’s Bill Gates, co-owner of the patented virus.
EBOLA HOAX?- EXPOSED ON CNN- ILLUMINATI CARD GAME CARDS
Epidemic card at 3:10.