When, if ever, will we see the reasonable and educated people in the warmer side of climate debate speak out against hateful garbage like this? What will it take? Why would government fund what amounts to a sanctioned hate crime disguised as “art”? This is just bizarre.
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Andrew Bolt writes:
The Left is the natural home of the modern totalitarian – and of all those who feel entitled by their superior morality to act as savages.
How how the ACT Government justify spending taxpayers’ money on a theatre work entitled ”Kill Climate Deniers”?
What sane Government donates to a project urging others to kill fellow citizens, even as a “joke”? Are these people mad?
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Here is the web page of the Aspen island Theatre Company. They say:
Aspen Island Theatre Company is dedicated to the creation of contemporary Australian theatre in Canberra. We seek to make theatre that is intelligent and inventive and engages with the present.
Really? A play about killing people some disagree with is “intelligent and inventive”? Maybe I’m confusing them with ISIS?
Their contact page is here: http://aspenisland.com.au/contact/
Left speaking. ‘It is OK if we do it BUT if others do it to us it is bullying. We are the victims.’ This is the common response.
Lord Macaulay 1843:
“The doctrine which, from the very first origin of religious dissensions, has been held by bigots of all sects, when condensed into a few words and stripped of rhetorical disguise, is simply this: I am in the right, and you are in the wrong. When you are the stronger, you ought to tolerate me, for it is your duty to tolerate truth; but when I am the stronger, I shall persecute you, for it is my duty to persecute error.”
Excellent quote TYoke hope you don’t mind but will deff nick that one !
UPDATE via Andrew Bolt
Artsy gibberish of course.
Where are the PC tongue troopers on this gig??
$18,793? Haven’t they learned to round-up and homogenise their numbers yet? Or maybe that last 3 is there for realism. A bit like saying 97% when you really want the punters to think 100%.
Ironically, the more extreme the positions become, the more the majority start to say, “Hey wait a minute.” As I explained in my book “The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science”, most people don’t know how far to go with a new paradigm, in this case environmentalism. I used to wonder what role the extremists play. The answer is to define the limits for the majority.
It’s one vector.
As Mark Steyn notes, “Perhaps the Government of the Australian Capital Territory could just eliminate the middle man and give me $18,793 to kill myself.”
http://www.steynonline.com/6582/mann-is-an-island
Ha!
But I wouldn’t be too hard on the arts community. Whenever government money is available they be [first] in line, with their hands out. It’s kind of a conditioned reflex.
They haven’t got $18,793 for each Denier that kills himself–there’s way too many and it would break their bank.
There is an old Persian definition of a poet as being “a proud beggar.” They are proud about being associated with a type of truth that is associated with, but dissimilar to, scientific truth. To a true artist “Truth is Beauty.”
What this means is that a true artist is not likely to accept government money if the government wants him to lie for the money. Therefore those who the government gets lining up for money tend to be the con-artists, rather than the true artists. If you look at the art in propaganda posters you always notice a sort of starkness, and a lack of beauty.
Not that a true artist isn’t tempted by wealth. If you look at the lives of the better artists you often see them get entangled with a wealthy patron who asks them to fib too much (perhaps asking them to paint a picture that makes the patron look better than they actually look.) The artist tends to then, one way or another, go crazy. You see it over and over, in lives as different as Mozart’s and Woody Guthrie’s. The patron eventually fires the artist, or the artists walked out on the opportunity for “easy money”, and the artist winds up poorer, but happier.
The “Aspen Island Theatre Company” is, in this particular case, hopefully attempting to satire an insane attitude rather than promote it, however if they are actually promoting the insane attitude they are no more true artists than certain “Climate Scientists” are true scientists.
They could always threaten us deniers with defunding. They could go on feeling smug…and we wouldn’t feel a thing.
Hey, you first.
“Protestant pastor Martin Niemöller”
Not really. Martin Niemöller was a Communist who won the Lenin Peace Prize for his work helping the ‘more evil than Nazi’ Soviets.
To Erick’s earlier reply: Being a Protestant pastor and being a communist are not mutually exclusive, so even if Niemoller WAS a communist (and make no mistake, I hate communism), that wouldn’t prove he wasn’t a Protestant pastor. And indeed he was a Protestant (Lutheran) pastor, and he was actively involved, along with Karl Barth and Dietrich Bonhoeffer, in starting the Confessing Church in Germany, opposing Nazism. His winning the Lenin Peace Prize is not evidence that he was a communist but that he was an advocate for peace (as he understood it). He was, in fact, a pacifist (at least according to the Wiki article about him), though early in life he had served in the German military (WW I). See http://www.britannica.com/holocaust/article-9055786.
Beside the totalitarian aspect, and besides it being very wrong, and besides the scientific cluelessness, is their fantastic idea that a just a handful of “deniers” are in their way. A handful who can be done away with, and then everything will be hunky-dory.
There is no reality with these people, no there there, one might communicate with.
Oops, that’s “first in line”, not “fuirst”
Just days ago, the Green apologists were out in full force decrying the videos of nutjobs at the NY Climate marches, telling us that it was unseemly for WUWT to point out the darker side of the climate fearosphere.
Come back, you Greenies and rationalize this play for us.
Just so, Alan.
They also need to be reminded of this:
If you open the door to violence, don’t complain if it gets too rough for you.
Yes, there were several posters, like me, who thought that that edited video focusing exclusively on the “nutjobs” at the Climate March was not worthy of WUWT. I similarly think that your attempt to smear me and my fellow critics are as “Green apologists” or Greenies is misguided and unworthy of WUWT.
And yet you call yourself “Madman”?
Are we really supposed to take your comment seriously, or is it the ranting of a…. (wait for it)…. madman?
So, Madman…
Always on the ready to tell skeptics how unworthy of a job we’re doing (twice now by your admission)? It appears to me you are avoiding, or possibly “methinks thou dost protest too much”.
Anthony asks, “When, if ever, will we see the reasonable and educated people in the warmer side of climate debate speak out against hateful garbage like this? What will it take?”
Assuming you in that category of “reasonable and educated”? Would you like to respond to the question posed?
That seems to me to be the topic of this thread and I would love to hear the answer, from you or anyone else not in the skeptic camp to better understand.
And then my own questions, please…
Do you think this play and funding of it by a government supposing to represent all the people would be over the top, just right or don’t go far enough? Short answer is fine, essay if you desire.
If you’ve already weighed in on this, I apologize in advance, but would still love to get a review.
Thanks,
Bruce
???
I saw similar picture video themes at a number of news sites including Yahoo and Wall Street Journal.
Finding, er, the less curious marcher must’ve been hard on the photographers; especially as crazy odd news sells and that march certainly had more than it’s share.
Just watching the news films with group after group waving socialistic, communistic, or just anti-democracy or anti-capitalism flags and signs. The march looked much more like a anti-America march than the ‘climate change’ march it is claimed to be.
Interviews and interviewees sounded like we were back during the occupy movement.
Madman 2001,
Not to put too fine a point on it, but you are full of it.
Perhaps they should have referred to them as “Madmen” instead of “nutjobs”? Is that better?
Nutter.
$18,793 to encourage murder? This is a much larger sum than the Australian federal police claim is being sent to support murderers in ISIS… https://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/a/25139036/man-arrested-in-melbourne-terror-raids-faces-court/
People who believe in a cause are capable of rationalizing almost any horrific act ….
A long tine ago, when I was a Midshipman at USNA, I went home with my best friend (who was also a Midshipman) over Xmas break. His sister was a wild eyed anti-war (Vietnam War) college kid who belonged to the Weather Underground. She signed all her letters to her brother ‘The Revolution is coming’ and other pithy sayings. she would attempt to convert us to her way of thinking, but had a great deal of trouble when we failed to ‘see the light’. She railed about ‘police brutality’ and the government’s use of violence to ‘suppress them’ and seemed to think it was perfectly okay for them to kill police & others. when my best friend asked her why it was okay for her to use violence and not okay for the government, her response was. “because we’re right and they are wrong”
If you think you’re right, you can justify almost any act as long as it contributes to the ‘just cause’.
Those Weather Underground folks are in charge now in the USA. They are the “progressive””useful idiots” of “neo-soviet” central planners. These Communists are using all the CAGW dupes to gain control of as much as they can. The ends justify the means.
Molon Labe.
Start with an extreme position and end up with a program that sounds reasonable in comparison … a re-education camp to help all skeptics see the errors of their ways.
With free trains to take you there, and free showers when you arrive? I’ve heard about places like those…
I went and visited one of those places. I couldn’t speak a word all the time I was there. The sheer magnitude of it all …
What Madman, the useful idiot he is, fails to realize is this: Though he may be last in line, his free train ride is assured. Toot-toot!
The Aspen Island site doesn’t have a synopsis of their plot. Maybe the play is a biting satire about frenzied greens and rhetorical excesses. I know it’s a low-probability option, but we wouldn’t want a no-information rush to judgment.
I was thinking the same thing. I could be a spoof. Of course, when it comes to CAGW alarmism, everything sounds like a spoof…
In Australia? No its real.
Me too. To be cutting edge these days would be to question the ever drearier tide of unthinking dogma – for anyone with an imagination it is truly boring. If not, probably just the usual product of over privileged attention seekers riddled with guilt and feelings of purposelessness but too lazy minded to do anything useful about it.
Me too. Though… ya never know with the number of loons that are out there.
Mark
Agreed. This is art and art is generally meant to be controversial and thought provoking. To criticise it without even knowing what its about is silly.
” art is generally meant to be controversial ”
Cultural Marxist “art”, yes. Leave me alone with your shit-art, and i mean that literally, with the piss-art as well.
Um, just how “controversial” is Leonardo’s Vitruvian Man? The Mona Lisa? Rodin’s Thinking Man? The list goes on and on…. The idea that art needs to be controversial is a modern invention designed to justify a lot of bad art and politics as art. Art needs only be pleasing to someone, even folks who do not want controversy. Think Ansel Adams photos…
I don’t need to know much more than that the title says they want to kill me. Doesn’t matter how much lipstick gets put on that pig, it is still a death threat. Like standing at the airport and talking about ‘boom stuff’ or telling a judge you will to have them dispatched: Some Things don’t take a lot of think time to get you busted.
Now, just for grins, do the ‘reflective game’ thing: Ask yourself just what would happen to a request to make a film called “Kill Climate Scientists”? (Or how long it would take to be sued for making a film titled “Kill Hockey Still Mann”…) Both of those would be clearly (and correctly) torched as ‘beyond the pale’ and possibly “hate speach”. So, in that ‘Good for the Goose, good for the Gander’ reflective way; so too must this play be seen as a hate crime.
E.M.Smith writes “I don’t need to know much more than that the title says they want to kill me. ”
Do you identify yourself as a “climate denier” ?
It matters not if HE does. They make the determination – as did the Nazis 80 years ago (beyond the Jews, there were many other “undesirables”).
Gee, Tim. I do NOT describe myself as a climate denier.
But it doesn’t matter what “I” call myself. The climate crimes thought police call ME a climate denier, and the leading democratic party politicians and their climate catastro-police have told THEIR blind, deaf, and dumb followers that “I” should be imprisoned and murdered BY the international climate police.
So, when my tax dollars pay for elephant dung smeared over MY religious paintings, but YOU cannot even condemn cr*p but praise it officially and in the “art galleries” why should “I” have any respect for any other thought that may randomly enter your head, then be flushed out for public comment?
There are people with an unstable mind out there. They could carry out this nasty act “without even knowing what its about”. A bit like the theater act. I bet you very few of them understand the failure of the IPCCs projections, the deceleration of sea level rise etc. What if you replaced the D word with Warmist. I certainly would not support it.
Here are the unstable minds I am telling you about.
TimTheToolMan,
Here is another unstable mind.
Yes agreed. Without knowing the substance of the play there iant anything to criticize.
Jimbino: “There are people with an unstable mind out there.”
Also unstable minds like mine, who read that Climate Alarmists want to kill me and think “Okay, if those are the rules you want to play by. I’ll adjust my ROE accordingly”
Yah know Tim: I think I have the “plot” figured out.
Now, since this “artist” group is already known to be “dis-honest” artists (con-artists is the appropriate term described above for “artists” who con the taxpayers out of their money to make the con-sartist richer and happier) by forcing the taxpayers to pay the con-artists for hate-filled religious dogma, we expect them to lie, cheat, steal (well, they’ve already done that) and exaggerate.
…. Truly, we cannot really know what this propaganda (er, play) will say. We don’t have to: It is up to these con-artists to falsify our premise of their hatred.
But I can bet that the “eco-terrorists in the play will be “deniers” who kidnap and murder to force the innocent and good-natured loving government officials – who are ONLY in their long, stress-filled jobs out of love for the planet and ALL things living on the planet! – to force those innocent and loving government officials to allow the greedy, evil, rich, oil field polluters to drill the fertile fields and pollute our unspoiled wilderness and kill Teddy Bears for their greedy monopoly of denier haters. And, no doubt, these same evil deniers who hate and pollute will be white Christian homo-phobic capitalist zealots who kill the dark man first, then the gay ecologist who studies butterflies, then the liberal college professor who can prove the world is round and was created 14 billions years ago …
Now, who will be correct?
Controversial? You mean like “Wilfred”?
read the rest here:
http://townhall.com/columnists/brentbozell/2010/03/26/australia,_bitten_by_a_filthy_dog/print
Ah, Canberra. Plenty of bong for your buck. Controversial publicly funded art. Drugged kids reading “Kill Climate Deni9rs” posters and ads. Also, parents should keep in mind, that under the UN’s Convention for the Rights of a Child treaty, which Australia signed and ratified, children have a “right to cultural experiences,” even if their parents object. I am guessing this may be a public school field trip destination, but time will tell.
Agreed, there’s a good chance it’s about the absurdity of Green nutterism. I give it 30% that it is. We need investigative reporting by a local person, anybody there?
Ah, I see below that they are Green nutters. Definitely shouldn’t be funded by government. I thought Abbott was PM?
They made a movie about assassinating President Bush! But sneeze at a picture of Obama and you are charged with treason.
Bolt is right. The hate exudes from the left, and they no longer feel a need to hide it.
Desperate people are use desperate tactics…
Let’s remember the film made by the 10:10 UK environmental movement showing a teacher urging her class of 13 year olds to use efficient light bulbs and reduce air and car travel. Two students, Phillip and Tracy, are hostile. “No pressure,” says the teacher, who presses a button which explodes both of the children, showering classmates with blood and flesh and reducing Phillip and Tracy to red puddles.
Desperate people are using desperate tactics.
Synchronicity? – or maybe agenda?
Kind of an empty threat since there isn’t anyone claiming the climate doesn’t change, isn’t it?
Or, are they “labelling” people first, then killing them, and then finding out what the person’s opinion was?
2 responses to this:
1. “The Left is the natural home of the modern totalitarian”. Wrong. Extremes in many areas including politics (far left and far right) and religion (ISIS) can be overtly totalitarian. ISIS are fascists whose methods would be recognised by the Nazis.
2. As someone who is convinced that the planet is warming due to increases in GHG concentrations (though there is a debate about how much), I am happy to condemn people who use art as an excuse for calls to violence against sceptics or anyone else. There is more than enough violence in the world as it is.
You’re preaching to the choir here when you say:
“I am happy to condemn people who use art as an excuse for calls to violence against sceptics or anyone else. There is more than enough violence in the world as it is.”
Go on some climate alarmists blogs and tell them the same thing.
They’ll probably want to kill you, too.
But why are you convinced of the cause of something that isn’t even happening ??
What kind of logical absurdity is that ??
Not only is “the Left the natural home home of the modern totalitarian” but further, “the Modern Totalitarian is the natural home of the left”. Not exclusive, but natural.
FYI, the Nazis were Left Wing. The name means “National Socialists”.
“…the Nazis were Left Wing. The name means “National Socialists”
It’s an argument I used to make. I’m just about to finish reading the second volume of Mein Kampf. It’s been a gruelling read – dreary, poorly written and mostly one long extended anti semitic rant, but every so often one sees the very soul of Nazi ideology laid bare. The Nazis may have appropriated the ‘socialist’ monicker but in truth they were militaristic fascist corporatists; hateful of Marxism (‘ the Jewish conspiracy’), enemies of communism and violently individualistic. There was nothing ‘socialist’ about them except the name. They tolerated the trade unions (for a while) out of expediency until 1933 when absolute power allowed them to dispense with them completely.
Hitler rails against ‘capitalists’ but only in the context of ‘Jewish capitalists’ – to him there is no other kind of capitalist in the decadent nations of between-the-wars Europe and America. The Jews are to blame for everything. His distrust of capitalism had nothing at all to do with any sense of socialist sympathies; he simply wanted to reinvent aggressive corporatism in Nazi Germany ‘free’ from the Jewish yoke.
And so on.
statism=socialism. Authoritarian=statist. Nazi’s = Left wing.
You cant argue that Nazi’s were right wing free market capitalist libertarians. It’s nonsensical.
At 6:18 AM on 1 October, william had written:
Using the convention of equation in this context is writhingly inappropriate, but your observation that the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (NSDAP) was left-socialist is altogether correct, no matter how much our modern “Liberal” fascist parlor pinkos hate to hear it.
It’s less parsimonious but more precise to state that socialism is necessarily statist (for government is the engine of enforcement, the “breaking things and killing people” machinery for coercing obedience among those who reject the socialists’ claims upon their lives, their liberties, and their property), that all authoritarians must be statist (whatever their nominal motivation, whether it’s allegedly “social justice” or “race purity” or “the dictatorship of the proletariat”), and that the NSDAP government of Germany and the territories taken under their control by Anschluss or treaty or conquest had been socialist in purpose, policy, and procedure from beginning to end. By way of Albert Speer’s recollection of remarks made by his boss:
“I had only to develop logically what social democracy failed…. National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd ties with a democratic order…. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings….”
Mayhap the more pungent Americanism will do, too?
“When you’ve got ’em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.”
Few would accuse Hitler of being a clear and concise thinker on the philosophy of Fascism. The Italian model under Mussolini was better thought out. In his book “Liberal Fascism” Jonah Goldberg points out the parallels between modern liberalism and Fascism of the 20s and 30s. A play about killing deniers only reinforces this point
william,
Right Wing =/= libertarian. Libertarian =/= conservative. You’re looking at this as just left vs right when there’s also up (authoritarian) vs down (libertarian). The Nazis were, in fact, right wing, unlike socialists. Like socialists, however, they WERE authoritarian.
the differences between Nazis and communists was nationalism vs globalism and who owned the means of production that were controlled by the state. The nationalism vs globalism was not much of a difference because both really wanted global control anyway. Both were leftwing extremists by the simple definition that left of the chart of how much government is the most. The rightwing extremists are actually libertarian/anarchists who want no government which leads to the power vacuum usually filled by a new tyranny. conservatives are actually centrist/right. As for fascism – that is the unholy trinity of big government, big labor, and big government protected corporations – all controlled by government.
Statism is a usurped word from the past indicating a fealty to a continuing government rather than to the particular king currently in charge. It used to be safe to use that to refer to those who believe in an all powerful government. That is getting to be no longer the case as there is a rise in the cult of personality amongst the left and maybe others who seem to be returning to this fealty to the king and the king’s heirs rather than to a perpetual continuing government headed by a king.
Capitalsm is really simply the free market. Everyone has capital equipment, starting back with flint knives and axe heads. The free market is the natural state of exchange as opposed to a controlled market – a monopoly which requires government assistance to maintain. Things are optimal when there is a free market and suboptimal when the market is distorted by government to produce some sort of desired result by placing restrictions on people and their efforts.
James Abbott
September 30, 2014 at 4:54 pm
“2 responses to this:
1. “The Left is the natural home of the modern totalitarian”. Wrong. Extremes in many areas including politics (far left and far right) and religion (ISIS) can be overtly totalitarian. ISIS are fascists whose methods would be recognised by the Nazis. ”
Now explain the differences between “extreme Left”, and “extreme Right”, and why we give them two different names…
(Hint, look into Mussolini’s party program)
Everything to the right of Communism is “right-wing”
“Far right” is actually Classical Liberalism. Look it up.
As for ISIS. You make the tired old mistake of conflating Islam with Christianity. That’s like saying Mohammad and Jesus taught the same things. Absurd.
I’ve had people call me a climate denier simply because I showed them a plot of global average temperatures on a scale where you can actually see the trend over the last 20 years, instead of a scale of over 100 years. I didn’t realize some people think the penalty for showing data should be death.
I’ve been called a denier for saying that the empirical evidence was increasingly supporting the idea that transient climate sensitivity was lower than previously thought.
rabbit,
Did you ask them what they thought you were denying?
dbstealey:
These were true believers who tolerated no deviation from scripture. Anyone who said “I agree with much of what you say, but catastrophe is not imminent or as inevitable as you make out” was assumed to be a concern troll, a denier in sheep’s clothing.
Haven’t quite got those twin desires for universal peace and human butchery completely sorted out, as of yet. Fortunately these guys couldn’t successfully attack a weakened chipmunk.With a axe.
This is Hate Speech pure and simple. They should be arrested, tried and put away for good.
I am an Australian citizen so I have started making some calls and emails about it. I am being polite but firm about the offense of the title. I know this game so I am seeking clarification and trying to obtain the application of the grant to see what the play intends.
Emailed the Aspen Island Theatre Company asking for clarification about the play and tried ringing the ArtsACT but went to their messagebank (or so I think). I will ring later to try and get more details from ArtsACT. If they do not give up anything I will pursue a FOI on the application. Public money so the details of applications and approval should be fully public.
Also emailing the Minister for the Arts, Joy Bruch. I do not expect much from this angle as she is a ALP member (left wing for non Australians).
Watch this space!
Good hunting and keep us posted Ferret !
The people that signed the approval should be made famous.
They’re Australian. Totally harmless. The only thing Australians have killed recently is a reduction in coal exports. Go Oz!
“Totally harmless” … hmm not so much …
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/11/14/australian-sniper-kill-at-3079-yards/
Truthseeker,
I don’t understand your point.
Baloney
It gets tiresome after awhile. If progressives are going to come for me with pitchforks and torches, get on with it I say. Better that they just get over it, cause such violence would profit nobody, but if they’re coming for me bring it on already. Either that or shut up about it.
They have regulations and selective law enforcement, not torches or pitchforks. They are getting on with it as I type.
Think about what we have seen with the DOJ, EPA, IRS, and on and on.
There is most definitly a pattern in play with appointed, not elected, officials in charge, and they are most definitly getting on with it.
Regards, Ed
Thanks Ed. Two can (and presumably do) play at that particular game though, something the good ‘ole boys from my neck of the woods are infamous for. Still, something to think about.
Mark,
They don’t have the stomach….or dangling bits below… for a face-on fight. They never have. They are and always have been the midnight ‘monkey wrenchers’ of logging equipment and middle of the night sneak attackers on fur farms, game ranches, and plant genetic research facilities. They are the ones that threaten “We know where you live…”. Their actions show they are cowards first.
Why does M. Mann choose a venue with the speakers podium significantly separated from the audience, present no new data, and uses a hardcore supporter to personally choose who can ask ‘appropriate questions’ during a very brief Q&A? They are cowards.
Why won’t the ‘climate experts’ and ‘peer reviewed authors’ of catastrophic global warming alarmist papers engage in open debate with experts of opposing perspectives and an unbiased moderator? They are cowards.
Why won’t they even acknowledge and discuss like rational human beings 18 years of essentially no global warming trend? What is looking more like a sinusoidal temperature trend regardless of the steadily increasing CO2 trend? No ‘signature’ heating of the upper atmosphere? Or their baseless assertions of ‘the oceans ate the missing heat’? They are cowards.
Why do they attempt to incite imprisonment and murder of those who fairly oppose them in the open market of ‘hypothesis, test, and fully disclose your results’ science? They are cowards.
These cowards know they’d get their asses kicked into the ash heaps of history in a ‘stand up’ fight…. so they play the covert strategy of ‘death by a thousand small cuts’. As such, we have to confront them at all levels to assure facts and hard data win out over their progressively failed dogma and increasingly radicalized and ludicrous assertions.
All the best to you, Mark!
Mac
I left the following comment on their contact page – I doubt it will pass moderation.
“I’m seriously disturbed by news that your organisation is going to be involved in a theatrical production “kill climate deniers”. As a regular guest author on http://wattsupwiththat.com I am a target for hate speech from those who think I am a “climate denier”.
A government sponsored project which might encourage such divisive barbarity and possible threats to my safety and the safety of my family is utterly abhorrent. I’m sure I don’t need to draw your attention to the historical precedent.”
well said. The measured tone might actually get someone there to think again.
Agree with Pat. We don’t know what it’s about yet. They describe the island as “mounted by an imperial organ”. It might turn out to be a wry exposition of crowd mentality and populist dogma
Or a foreshortened version of an appendage.
Imperial organ? aspenisland.com? Fnaaarr!!
The following link (intentionally lacking a (t)) htp://killclimatedeniers.tumblr.com/ has information about these loons including a disclaimer they don’t want to encourage anyone to kill deniers ‘either by shooting (,) drowning or hanging.’ This has to be hate speech and some Aussie needs to push it.
“they don’t want to encourage anyone to kill deniers ‘either by shooting (,) drowning or hanging.”
So I guess that other ways to kill deniers is OK then. Perhaps running over with cars, or poison,
or arrows, or knives, or bombs might be OK. Maybe they intend to draw and quarter, or even
drag deniers behind trucks/cars going down the road. How about train tracks?
Somehow that limited denial (shooting, drowning, hanging) is not at all comforting.
There are “reasonable and educated people in the warmer side of climate debate”?
Who knew?
Yes. Name them both.
She just did; Ms Reasonable and Mr. Educated, (I think).
I thought it was Ms. Information and Ms. Taken!