Contradictory contest criteria have been rectified via Keating “clarification” 
Guest post by Alec Rawls
At first glance retired physics teacher Christopher Keating’s challenge appears to be an obvious bait and switch. It opens as an invitation to “global warming skeptics” who charge that “the science doesn’t support claims of man-made climate change.” The central “claim of man-made climate change” is the IPCC’s assertion in AR5 that: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century” (AR5 WGI SPM p. 17, upped from “very likely” in AR4 and “likely” in the Third Area Report). So wait a minute. All we have to do is demonstrate that this assertion of great certainty that human activity caused most late 20th century warming is clearly unsupported by the available reason and evidence and Keating will give us $30,000? That is easily done. But then the first stated rule of his contest asserts a very different criterion:
1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.
Ridiculous. There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming. The question is whether one accepts the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that the human release of greenhouse gases is responsible for most late 20th century warming, and is on course to cause a dangerous amount of warming over the next century. Skeptics see this as unlikely, or as unsupported by the evidence, but it all comes down to the size of the human warming effect.
So Keating is putting forward two completely different criteria for gauging human influence on climate, one that pretty much all skeptics reject and one that pretty much all skeptics accept, and he is treating them as interchangeable. This raises an obvious suspicion.
When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming, will Keating claim vindication for the IPCC’s claim that MOST warming was human caused?
It would be a very crude switch, conflating two very different scientific positions, but we have been down this road several times already. Remember the bogus “consensus” study by Doran and Zimmerman that failed to distinguish skeptic from consensoid views, thereby lumping skeptics into their proclaimed “consensus”? According to their press release:
Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.
About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.
Wait, one in ten scientists don’t think global temperatures have risen since 1800? That’s actually a pretty amazing lack of consensus, but on the role of human activity, there are very few on the skeptic side who would say that human effects are insignificant, thus their real finding is that 82 percent of scientists can be categorized as either skeptics or consensoids. They hadn’t distinguished the actual competing viewpoints at all, but they pretended they had, and declared the science settled:
…the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes.
Ditto for Cook et al. 2013. As documented by Legates, Soon, Briggs and Monckton, the Cook study’s own raters found that only 0.5% of the climate science abstracts they examined supported the IPCC “consensus” position that most recent warming was caused by human activity. To claim a 97% consensus they added this 0.5% figure together with the numbers of abstracts that support weaker claims of some human influence, positions that encompass virtually all skeptics. From Christopher Monckton:
In defiance of the evidence recorded in their own data file, they had then explicitly stated, both in their article and in a subsequent article, that 97.1% had endorsed the IPCC’s proposition.
Again and again the alarmists try to pull off this trick, fabricating a phony “consensus” on the IPCC position by falsely classifying those who reject the IPCC’s position as supportive of it, and the yawning slip between Keating’s cup and his lip seems to be an obvious set-up for more of the same, which must have put off many of the skeptics who came across Keating’s challenge. It certainly put me off.
I belatedly looked further only because these bait and switches have been turning into big propaganda battles and I figured it might be worth getting ahead of this one. That’s when I came across Keating’s clarification page, where he promises to fork over the money to anyone who can prove that the available scientific reason and evidence do not support the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that most recent warming human caused.
Okay, that changes things. If these are the terms then Keating deserves to be taken seriously, not in any expectation that he would ever pay up, but because he might be an honest man who has simply never been properly exposed to the skeptic side. Of course that would have been self-selected but he is now self-forcing himself to engage with skeptic views and if he really is an honest man the result could be interesting.
Keating’s “clarification” page
Numerous commenters complained to Keating that there was no way to win his challenge because he was demanding proof of a negative: that human activity has no effect on climate (a negative that no skeptic ever claimed). This is what spawned his clarification page, where he lists “two different ways” that skeptics can win, with “Option #1” being:
The basic tenets of AGW are these two IPCC conclusions:
It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.
Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.
So if someone was able to scientifically disprove these two extremely likely / unlikely statements, then that should suffice.
To “scientifically disprove” the IPCC claims of extreme certainty is to prove that they are not scientifically justified. It doesn’t mean proving that human activity did not cause most post 50’s warming. It just means proving that the available reason and evidence does not justify any high degree of certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused. “Proof” is generally not easy to come by in science but this one is easy, on multiple grounds.
So now we have a challenge worth answering, an opportunity to turn Keating’s publicity ploy into a positive episode for skeptic understanding. His clarification also means that his challenge needs to be taken seriously as a threat. Right on his clarification page, before anyone had seen it, Keating was already crowing how nobody could show that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are rejected by science:
So, there you go. I set the challenge up to favor the deniers and have now even produced two separate ways they can win.
And, yet, THE DENIERS STILL CAN’T PRODUCE.
Oh yes we can. Keating is one of those “believers” who flings the “denier” label like plosive spittle, and having changed his contest rules to be able to more legitimately claim to that he is vindicating the IPCC’s most unscientific excesses he needs to be shadowed henceforth by an unrebuttable insistence that HE OWES US MONEY. Then he can raise the subject as much as he wants.
Keating’s contradictory statements about skeptic views prove that he’s never thought this through
How else could a physicist make the following contradictory statements about skeptic views, issued almost in sequence on his “clarification” page? First he is stunned by all the people trying to let him know that skeptics generally do agree that human release of greenhouse gases does cause warming:
Some have even gone so far as to claim that no one has ever denied that man made global warming is not real. I swear, I didn’t make that last statement up. This is such a brazen lie that I wonder if the people saying this have lost touch with reality. Seriously, I wonder if they have lost touch with the real world. One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc. Once again, if you don’t like being held accountable for what you say, stop saying it.
No distinction between people causing some warming and people causing most warming, even though he is responding to people who are pressing him on this very point. It’s like the idea is so new to him that he can’t get his head around it. Then at the end of his “option 1” he includes this little admission, perhaps in response to his recent forced engagement with actual skeptic views:
That said, the climate debate has shifted a bit over the past decades I’ve following it into at least “skeptics” grudgingly accepting (1) that the planet is actually warming [that should be “was actually warming”] and (2) the physics behind sensitivity excluding feedbacks being 1.1°C.
On the CO2 forcing effect it isn’t the debate that has shifted, only Keating’s awareness of it, and he must have only learned very recently (not “over the decades”) about the broad agreement among skeptics and consensoids alike that a doubling of CO2 should cause a temperature forcing of about 1°C. How else could he have been flabbergasted just a few paragraphs above by the idea of skeptics who do not deny that human activity causes warming?
So we’re talking about a babe-in-arms here. This senior citizen baby is unaware that the actual debate is over the size of the feedback effect and whether it is positive or negative. He has certainly never thought through the implications of agreement on CO2 forcing. So what to do with our senior baby?
I’m going to give him two answers. A little later I will post a “taking Keating seriously part 2” that recounts a few of the prima facie ways that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are highly unscientific, as pointed out by numerous people in recent years. Then early next week I will post part 3, detailing a train of specific unscientific and anti-scientific steps in the IPCC analysis that render it not just scientifically invalid but properly classify it as a hoax and a fraud.
I documented two years ago how the First Order Draft of AR5 was marred by systematic “omitted variable fraud.” That critique is past due for an update and Keating’s challenge is a good second bird to kill with the same stone.
Jeff L. says: “warmist / alarmist position is the political / non-reasoned / non-scientific position.”
To AGW Alarmist (cough) scientist, it is all about money.
Funding should be tied to producing verifiable results, along with showing ALL data, research, and work.
“It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.”
Isn’t it “human influence” that made the bogus temp adjustments and resulted in poor temp station siting. So he would be correct!
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/01/11/noaa-temperature-fraud-expands-part-1/
I leave ‘people’ like Keating to die by their own hand and means.
Lets see Keating answer 3 challenges
1) what is the perfect temperature for the earth
2) demonstrate how 1.8 ppm/yr affects the climate
3) what is his forecast for the coming 20 years. cause lord knows the past 20 he an his ilk have wasted for more than 30k of the globes time and money
I don’t know for certain, and I am pretty sure Keating doesn’t know for certain, either.
So, you’re saying that this is like the story of the “Welfare Queen”.
While it is obviously true that not all welfare recipients are moochers on society, it doesn’t follow that there are no such persons in existence.
You need only to:
1. Show that it is >5% probable that non-human influences are >50% of the total warming.
I would ask him if proving #1 would be sufficient.
I would ask for using an agreed upon independent judge.
“The challenge will be to get him to cough up the money.”
Yup. Since he is the “final judge”, you might as well try to convince the Al Gore and the IPCC.
“If someone can provide a proof that I can’t refute, using scientific evidence, then I will write them a check.”
Why it is foolish to play his game, in his own words (just change ‘denier’ to ‘alarmist’):
[Please avoid “all capitals” in your future quotes. .mod]
Classic burden shifting. The burden of proof is on the scientists to show their theory is correct. Not for anyone else to disprove.
James Schrumpf says:
July 25, 2014 at 2:53 pm
Trying to prove a negative is not science.
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1. It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.
To disprove this first you need him to define Dominant,
Say for example it has warmed 0.5C since 1950.
does dominant mean .25C is attributed to human influence?
proving that wrong is not proving a negative.
also, it might only be 90% confident.
but to do this the skeptic must explain the warming.
“Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.
So if someone was able to scientifically disprove these two extremely likely / unlikely statements, then that should suffice.”
Also not proving a negative
When Keating speaks of “climate sensitivity” is he talking ECS or TCR and does he know there is a difference? If ECS, can we try to pin him down to a timeframe? After all warming that takes 10,000 years to arrive just isn’t worth worrying about since by the time it gets here we’ll all be freezing our nuts off in the next ice age anyway.
Some fools think a model prediction is proof. Other fools think they can argue with those who believe such nonsense. The models are slowly and inevitably giving way to reality. It is up to those who truly support scientific investigation to reveal the facts as they are learned.
The clarification page is a total own goal. It’s almost too easy. You only need to present evidence that cast doubt on the IPCC’s extremely likely claims.
Superimposed on the secular trend is a natural multidecadal oscillation of an average period of 70y with significant amplitude of 0.3–0.4 °C peak to peak, which can explain many historical episodes of warming and cooling and accounts for 40% of the observed warming since the mid-20th century and for 50% of the previously attributed anthropogenic warming trend
Because this large multidecadal variability is not random, but likely recurrent based on its past behavior, it has predictive value. Not taking the AMO into account in predictions of future warming under various forcing scenarios may run the risk of overestimating the warming for the next two to three decades, when the AMO is likely in its down phase
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/01/22/1212471110.full.pdf+html
Done. It doesn’t if they got it right or not, but when there is doubt there can’t be high certainty.
Do you really think that any proof would be accepted? The mere fact that not one of the models came close to predicting ” the pause” with no explanation what so ever. If there is any proof, that is it. AGW is an invalid theory. He should pay up. There are plenty of very good scientific arguments as to why AGW is not the main driver. Everything from solar cycles to the thermodynamics of whether the heat from latent water vapor is released or retained.
I appreciate that fact that some people try to argue on the facts and provide detailed papers and references. However it is nothing but a distraction from the issue. AGW is not interested in any data or reasoning that you provide that they are wrong. That’s why he is so certain that he can bet his own money. If he was truly sincere, He’d put the money up with an arbitrator. Someone who understands the difference between ‘could’ and ‘is’. We are looking at 2004 in the review mirror.
RH says:
July 25, 2014 at 5:42 pm
“I like the idea of claiming victory and aggressively, persistently, and annoyingly demanding he pay up.”
Could somebody sue him for the money?
Does CO2 in the atmosphere warm the planet measurably? Sure, CO2 may have an absorption frequency in the infrared range, but the absorbed radiation will then be quickly re-emitted, and in what direction? Some emissions will be absorbed by other CO2 molecules (a very small amount), and some may find their way back down to the surface of the earth, but given the extremely small amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, can such an effect be measured- especially with temperature apparatus on the surface? Also, CO2 absorbs infrared at a specific frequency, which further diminishes its potential warming effect. And all the while, CO2 molecules in the atmosphere block/reflect incoming solar radiation and prevent it from striking the surface and being re-emitted as infrared. It is just my opinion, but any temperature related effects of CO2 in earth’s atmosphere should be trivial/unmeasurable, and I’m curious as to any experiments that actually test the ‘green house’ effect of CO2.
What is the time limit, if any, on the award?
By 2020, with the incipient Solar minimum and a curretly negative PDO, a 1 degC temp decrease is more likely than not.
That would falsify AR5 pretty definitively.
But of course by then, $30k USD might be wheeled around in wheel barrow to buy a loaf of bread.
Agree with those who ask: why give credence to the charade? Let’s just sing poor ol’ Keating a little song…
Proving a negative is very difficult to do under the best of circumstances.
These are not the best of circumstances. The goal post has already been moved once, by the challenger.
And yet, it is worth the effort.
Keating is a fanatic. You are wasting your time.
Couple of days back, we got a fresh batch of green desperadoes claiming “both sides are lying” (Greenpeace is struggling, you see). Their claim is that there are (perhaps misguided but) honest activists and then there are greedy corporations. “Who can you believe?” They asked. The first love nature even if they don’t know what’s what but the second only want to rape the planet for “a pot of gold” (literal). Now, please consider for a moment the brutal degree of delusion such a simplistic and infantile world view involves. These first-worlders are so blind to their immense wealth, they take it for granted with such cruel disdain, that they believe computers and cars and stoves use faerie dust as fuel and that this faerie dust can be obtained by politely asking the clouds to fart it. There is simply no helping folks like that.
Here is an example of so many. An acquaintance has been going on for years about the greed of “big oil”, “big pharma”, “big agro”, “big whatever”, and finally decided to go self-sufficient and grow his own vegetable garden. Granted, he was in no way what-so-ever self-sufficient. He still drove his car, his van, and his motorcycle. He still had two flats. He watched tv, went out to dine. etc. In short, he lived the high-fly life of first-worlders. Anyway, two seasons after, he gave up on the garden because “it was too hard” and went back to talk about the greed of farmers…
I noted last time that it says a lot about this guy that he did not even realise that he was obliged to define falsifiability criteria at the outset. He has finally come up with some vague criteria but it seems that doing so struck him as a novel idea.
I am pretty sure he has left himself enough wiggle room to avoid ever having to pay.
Compare with Einstein – one single particle traveling faster than light and his theory was busted. No ambiguity there.
Mike Jowsey says:
July 25, 2014 at 9:27 pm
RH says:
July 25, 2014 at 5:42 pm
“I like the idea of claiming victory and aggressively, persistently, and annoyingly demanding he pay up.”
Could somebody sue him for the money?
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In the United States anyone can sue anyone for anything. Whether you can win such a lawsuit or not is another question. You have to have a basis in law, and most states have consumer laws that prohibit deceptive behavior. You would have to show that his contest terms violate those laws. This feels like a fraudulent contest since there are too many undefined factors, and factors that can be spun numerous ways. There may be a legal basis to sue him, but I would not. Litigation is expensive for both sides, For that expense you run the risk of losing. I am not a lawyer, so please consider this information my point of view, and not legal advice. If you wish to sue, ask an attorney.
What you can do though, is use his stunt to discredit this particular promoter of CAGW by making a public scene via letters to the editor to your local media about the dodgy set up, your attempts to collect, and his rationalizations to avoid payment. His web pages show he has his mind made up already, and I’m guessing he will refuse to pay.
It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.
The two key words are “human influence”. Until he defines those two words, they can mean whatever the hell he wants them to mean. So, what is the definition in his challenge of “human influence”. Until the term is defined, you have no idea what he is talking about, and thus whatever evidence you present is irrelevant.
Keating is a piker. That’s right, $30,000? Cheap!.
I will personally write a check (on the Arkansas River bank) in the amount of $1,000,000 to any individual who can prove conclusively (peer reviewed, etc, etc) that climate change is not real.
Keating shows his true colors again.
“NEW: There is now a challenge deadline of midnight (CDT) July 31, 2014 for the challenge.”
Keating knows he is under fire, and he is losing. Thus the need for a New Goal Post.