Taking Keating's $30,000 skeptic challenge seriously, part 1

Contradictory contest criteria have been rectified via Keating “clarification” clarification

Guest post by Alec Rawls

At first glance retired physics teacher Christopher Keating’s challenge appears to be an obvious bait and switch. It opens as an invitation to “global warming skeptics” who charge that “the science doesn’t support claims of man-made climate change.” The central “claim of man-made climate change” is the IPCC’s assertion in AR5 that: “It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century” (AR5 WGI SPM p. 17, upped from “very likely” in AR4 and “likely” in the Third Area Report). So wait a minute. All we have to do is demonstrate that this assertion of great certainty that human activity caused most late 20th century warming is clearly unsupported by the available reason and evidence and Keating will give us $30,000? That is easily done. But then the first stated rule of his contest asserts a very different criterion:

1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.

Ridiculous. There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming. The question is whether one accepts the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that the human release of greenhouse gases is responsible for most late 20th century warming, and is on course to cause a dangerous amount of warming over the next century. Skeptics see this as unlikely, or as unsupported by the evidence, but it all comes down to the size of the human warming effect.

So Keating is putting forward two completely different criteria for gauging human influence on climate, one that pretty much all skeptics reject and one that pretty much all skeptics accept, and he is treating them as interchangeable. This raises an obvious suspicion.

When nobody can prove NO human-caused warming, will Keating claim vindication for the IPCC’s claim that MOST warming was human caused?

It would be a very crude switch, conflating two very different scientific positions, but we have been down this road several times already. Remember the bogus “consensus” study by Doran and Zimmerman that failed to distinguish skeptic from consensoid views, thereby lumping skeptics into their proclaimed “consensus”? According to their press release:

Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.

About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.

Wait, one in ten scientists don’t think global temperatures have risen since 1800? That’s actually a pretty amazing lack of consensus, but on the role of human activity, there are very few on the skeptic side who would say that human effects are insignificant, thus their real finding is that 82 percent of scientists can be categorized as either skeptics or consensoids. They hadn’t distinguished the actual competing viewpoints at all, but they pretended they had, and declared the science settled:

…the debate on the authenticity of global warming and the role played by human activity is largely nonexistent among those who understand the nuances and scientific basis of long-term climate processes.

Ditto for Cook et al. 2013. As documented by Legates, Soon, Briggs and Monckton, the Cook study’s own raters found that only 0.5% of the climate science abstracts they examined supported the IPCC “consensus” position that most recent warming was caused by human activity. To claim a 97% consensus they added this 0.5% figure together with the numbers of abstracts that support weaker claims of some human influence, positions that encompass virtually all skeptics. From Christopher Monckton:

In defiance of the evidence recorded in their own data file, they had then explicitly stated, both in their article and in a subsequent article, that 97.1% had endorsed the IPCC’s proposition.

Again and again the alarmists try to pull off this trick, fabricating a phony “consensus” on the IPCC position by falsely classifying those who reject the IPCC’s position as supportive of it, and the yawning slip between Keating’s cup and his lip seems to be an obvious set-up for more of the same, which must have put off many of the skeptics who came across Keating’s challenge. It certainly put me off.

I belatedly looked further only because these bait and switches have been turning into big propaganda battles and I figured it might be worth getting ahead of this one. That’s when I came across Keating’s clarification page, where he promises to fork over the money to anyone who can prove that the available scientific reason and evidence do not support the IPCC’s claim of extreme certainty that most recent warming  human caused.

Okay, that changes things. If these are the terms then Keating deserves to be taken seriously, not in any expectation that he would ever pay up, but because he might be an honest man who has simply never been properly exposed to the skeptic side. Of course that would have been self-selected but he is now self-forcing himself to engage with skeptic views and if he really is an honest man the result could be interesting.

Keating’s “clarification” page

Numerous commenters complained to Keating that there was no way to win his challenge because he was demanding proof of a negative: that human activity has no effect on climate (a negative that no skeptic ever claimed). This is what spawned his clarification page, where he lists “two different ways” that skeptics can win, with “Option #1” being:

The basic tenets of AGW are these two IPCC conclusions:

It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.

Climate sensitivity is likely in the range 1.5°C to 4.5°C and extremely unlikely (95-100%) less than 1°C.

So if someone was able to scientifically disprove these two extremely likely / unlikely statements, then that should suffice.

To “scientifically disprove” the IPCC claims of extreme certainty is to prove that they are not scientifically justified. It doesn’t mean proving that human activity did not cause most post 50’s warming. It just means proving that the available reason and evidence does not justify any high degree of certainty about the latest warming being mostly human-caused. “Proof” is generally not easy to come by in science but this one is easy, on multiple grounds.

So now we have a challenge worth answering, an opportunity to turn Keating’s publicity ploy into a positive episode for skeptic understanding. His clarification also means that his challenge needs to be taken seriously as a threat. Right on his clarification page, before anyone had seen it, Keating was already crowing how nobody could show that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are rejected by science:

So, there you go. I set the challenge up to favor the deniers and have now even produced two separate ways they can win.

And, yet, THE DENIERS STILL CAN’T PRODUCE.

Oh yes we can. Keating is one of those “believers” who flings the “denier” label like plosive spittle, and having changed his contest rules to be able to more legitimately claim to that he is vindicating the IPCC’s most unscientific excesses he needs to be shadowed henceforth by an unrebuttable insistence that HE OWES US MONEY. Then he can raise the subject as much as he wants.

Keating’s contradictory statements about skeptic views prove that he’s never thought this through

How else could a physicist make the following contradictory statements about skeptic views, issued almost in sequence on his “clarification” page? First he is stunned by all the people trying to let him know that skeptics generally do agree that human release of greenhouse gases does cause warming:

Some have even gone so far as to claim that no one has ever denied that man made global warming is not real. I swear, I didn’t make that last statement up. This is such a brazen lie that I wonder if the people saying this have lost touch with reality. Seriously, I wonder if they have lost touch with the real world. One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc. Once again, if you don’t like being held accountable for what you say, stop saying it.

No distinction between people causing some warming and people causing most warming, even though he is responding to people who are pressing him on this very point. It’s like the idea is so new to him that he can’t get his head around it. Then at the end of his “option 1” he includes this little admission, perhaps in response to his recent forced engagement with actual skeptic views:

That said, the climate debate has shifted a bit over the past decades I’ve following it into at least “skeptics” grudgingly accepting (1) that the planet is actually warming [that should be “was actually warming”] and (2) the physics behind sensitivity excluding feedbacks being 1.1°C.

On the CO2 forcing effect it isn’t the debate that has shifted, only Keating’s awareness of it, and he must have only learned very recently (not “over the decades”) about the broad agreement among skeptics and consensoids alike that a doubling of CO2 should cause a temperature forcing of about 1°C. How else could he have been flabbergasted just a few paragraphs above by the idea of skeptics who do not deny that human activity causes warming?

So we’re talking about a babe-in-arms here. This senior citizen baby is unaware that the actual debate is over the size of the feedback effect and whether it is positive or negative. He has certainly never thought through the implications of agreement on CO2 forcing. So what to do with our senior baby?

I’m going to give him two answers. A little later I will post a “taking Keating seriously part 2” that recounts a few of the prima facie ways that the IPCC’s radical attribution claims are highly unscientific, as pointed out by numerous people in recent years. Then early next week I will post part 3, detailing a train of specific unscientific and anti-scientific steps in the IPCC analysis that render it not just scientifically invalid but properly classify it as a hoax and a fraud.

I documented two years ago how the First Order Draft of AR5 was marred by systematic “omitted variable fraud.” That critique is past due for an update and Keating’s challenge is a good second bird to kill with the same stone.

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JPeden
July 25, 2014 5:27 pm

1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.
“Ridiculous. There is hardly a skeptic alive who doesn’t think that human activity is causing some climate change, and in particular, some amount of warming.”
No 1] Consensus has nothing to do with real scientific principles 2] By his own definition all you have to do is show that CO2″climate change” is falsified [“not real”] by its failure to provide even one correct prediction derived from its hypotheses – one which distinguishes them from the Null Hypothesis. In other words *Keating* has to provide the one correct prediction!
Just by chance, I got Keating to talk to me in comments after I had put this idea up in comments and had to further explain it after he appeared to not even understand what I was talking about “???”! So in desperation and dismissiveness he referred me to a sickly UCS paper which I could rebut, first by using its own statement to show that the “scientists” admit they can’t even “reproduce” the temperature record from 1870 on, including the recent warming. They are “confident” that they “can”, or something to that effect. But no evidence was given that they have done it. Therefore they can’t predict the future, as already proven. And the other points relating to predictions raised in the UCS paper, I dealt with.
I haven’t checked back after about 5 days later, but I did demand my $30,000 and expect it to arrive anytime now. Not….He’s gonna weasel out of it regardless. I was going to go double or nothing with him on some other issue, but I’ve lost interest in Keating.

Jimbo
July 25, 2014 5:27 pm

What has really got my attention in AR5 is this in BOLD in the quote. Why not say man-made greenhouse gases? Are they slipping in a fast one for future slipperiness? An escape clause? This thing needs pinning down.

“It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century” (AR5 WGI SPM p. 17, upped from “very likely” in AR4 and “likely” in the Third Area Report).

I thought the whole big push was about man-made greenhouse gases. Also note the obvious change from global warming to climate change. These people have been defeated but they won’t back down. This is getting silly.

neillusion
July 25, 2014 5:29 pm

argue with an idiot and he’ll bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.
I still haven’t seen any proof beyond reasonable doubt that the CO2 leads temperature rise.

Jimbo
July 25, 2014 5:29 pm

May I add to my last comment that I suspect the IPCC is hinting at land use changes. Yet we are not being told to act now on land use.

RH
July 25, 2014 5:42 pm

I like the idea of claiming victory and aggressively, persistently, and annoyingly demanding he pay up.

Latitude
July 25, 2014 5:50 pm

Mark Stoval (@MarkStoval) says:
July 25, 2014 at 5:10 pm
— he is doing propaganda
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yep, I’m waiting on the cast of characters that tried to beat up the good Lord Monckton for his show of hands…..I’m sure they will be equally offended by this crap /snark

Alx
July 25, 2014 5:51 pm

I will also award $30,000 of Keatings money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that non-man-made global climate change is not occurring.
This has to be one of the most pathetic stunts in the history of the sullied enterprise called climate science.

Greg Goodman
July 25, 2014 5:54 pm

Watch out for this subtle shifting of the goal posts:
“It is extremely likely (95-100%) that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.”
Did you spot it ??
It’s not longer “most of ” ( >50% ) it’s now “dominant”, ie biggest of a large number of factors but [no] longer needing to be >50%.
That’s not Keatings, that got slipped into AR5.

Latitude
July 25, 2014 5:57 pm

Alec Rawls says:
July 25, 2014 at 4:08 pm
My bad on the timing of part 2. I originally said it would be posted immediately following but Anthony wants to give part 1 some time to soak (to use a phrase from “Deadliest Catch”). I have edited the post say that that part 2 will run “a little later.”
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woops…..I still have it open in another window….read every word….it’s a good one!
[You must donate a “preview” tax to the WUWT kitty…. 8<) .mod]

JPeden
July 25, 2014 5:58 pm

The only item in the UCS paper I really had to work at was the idea that Myles Allen had predicted the “pause”, as per a Guardian graph. So I got whatever I could get from Allen’s work – luckily I could get some old stuff by “cube preview” which I didn’t have to pay for because these were only 2 pages long and I could preview almost the whole things – the lower field got really fuzzy.
Allen started to get his own prediction wrong right from the start of the test period and I couldn’t see that he ever talked about a “pause”. He seemed to be honestly interested in making some real, even falsifiable predictions, for a change, and in decreasing uncertainty.
Sure enough, the data immediately upticked from his prediction, then went sideways back to it, since he had predicted a “straight line up” about 30 degrees. Then the data, updated, continued through his prediction and became the later pause as it moved away from his prediction. The Guardian was touting it as ~”very close” [also had very large confidence limits], but that’s not what Allen predicted. Anyway, the data could have also made an equally small or much larger sine wave right along Allen’s prediction, making his 10 yr. interval correct. But did Allen predict a sine wave or anything else which would have worked out correctly as per his 10yr. interval?

July 25, 2014 6:07 pm

The null hypothesis: Climate change/ warming is natural, hasn’t been disproven.

Greg Goodman
July 25, 2014 6:10 pm

The whole thing is a farce.
You know damned well he will never cough up. He’s judge, jury and holding the kitty.
If he wants to be taken seriously he needs to lodge the money with a trustworthy third party lay down some clear rules and have an equally mixed jury of sceptics and warmists judge submissions.
Forget part 2 and part 3, you’re just lending credibility to his charade by even discussing it.

Theodore White
July 25, 2014 6:17 pm

I took Keating’s challenge when it was at $10,000 and he backed down. So I don’t [think] his new $30,000 challenge is serious either.
I reminded Keating, as I remind all who claim superiority in climate science, that the entire point of Science is the ability to predict – that is – the ability to forecast.
There’s plenty of people out there with all kinds of ideas on how to practice ‘science’ – especially in the world of climatology and meteorology, but few are actually doing forecasting in the real world outside of 10 days and fewer still can do seasonal climate forecasting and even fewer still can forecast yearly and decadal climate and weather conditions.
Keating is just wasting time and he’s not forecasting either by the way. Talk is talk, but he’s not walking his talk.

Latitude
July 25, 2014 6:54 pm

[You must donate a “preview” tax to the WUWT kitty…. 8<) .mod]
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nope, I reviewed it…you owe me!
LOL…it is a good one!
[Lettuce knot get into a review of the unseen sight policy for reviews of the un-author-eyed preview of a not-yet-viewed view of the next view of a unposted post prior to posting the unposted post…. Else one or the other of us would owe a great of money to the WUWT kitty. .mod]

Darren Potter
July 25, 2014 7:03 pm

“1. I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.”
A fool’s errand by a shammer. The burden of Proof is upon those claiming AGW.

Darren Potter
July 25, 2014 7:05 pm

Greg Goodman says: “… you’re just lending credibility to his charade by even discussing it.”
Ding, ding! We have a Winner.
🙂

old construction worker.
July 25, 2014 7:07 pm

“There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc. Once again, if you don’t like being held accountable for what you say, stop saying it.”
That’s not what I say. What I call a fraud is that CO2 drives the climate and all other cause are secondary. That’s the fraud within the IPCC’s claim.
When ever someone ask me if I believe in “climate change” or “global warming”, I ask them are you talking about “CO2 drives the climate hypothesis?”

Darren Potter
July 25, 2014 7:21 pm

Mark Stoval says: ” The good professor probably knows the scientific method just fine, but he is not doing science — he is doing propaganda. He wants to see the science brotherhood rule the nations.”
The longer Scientific community sits on the sidelines failing to denounce the Global Warming (scientist) Alarmists, the more damage Scientific community does to their current and future credibility. If Scientific community cares at all about their reputations, they would very publicly denounce and divest themselves of GW Alarmists. Starting with the Mann who falsely claimed to be a Nobel Laureate.

David Falkner
July 25, 2014 7:22 pm

I just ran a graph of temps from 1900-2000 with 1980 as a base period on NOAA’s website. The original avg temp plots show that from 1900-2000, there has actually been a cooling trend.
I clicked the check box to add a smoothed time series. The smoothed series shows a warming trend.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/
I took a screenshot I was going to attach, but I don’t know the proper html code to do so. Anyhow, that surely suggests an error in the smoothing technique, doesn’t it? Smoothing should not divorce the data from the actual trend, right?

July 25, 2014 7:24 pm

To Keating: ” I will award $30,000 of my own money to anyone that can prove, via the
scientific method, that man-made global climate change is not occurring.” ……
The scientific proof that there is no man-made climate change, but solely a climate change
fully caused by Earth orbital variation is available since 2010. The booklet, 108 pages, is
offered on the German Amazon.de, ISBN 978-3-86805-604-4, “Joachim Seifert: Das Ende der globalen Erwärmung (“The end of global warming”). The Earth orbit variation caused global warming of the 20th century, is causing the temp plateau in the first decades of the 21st
century now, which will be followed by a temperature drop into the next Little Ice Age
thereafter. A variety of Earth orbital diagrams show the context sufficiently for readers
without German knowledge. The booklet remains unrefuted, is unrefutable and proofs that
ALL of global warming over the centuries is entirely caused by the pecularities of the unlinear, spiral-shaped foreward movement of Earth on its elliptical path around the Sun. Many easy to
follow calculations are included.
The IPCC keeps the topic Eath orbit oscillations under the table and confuses the public
with atmospheric circulation and air composition arguments, such as the CO2-content.
I am pretty sure that Keating will refuse to read the booklet to save his promised bucks.
JS

July 25, 2014 7:28 pm

This just clearly illustrates that warmists / alarmist don’t understand (or care to understand) what the skeptic position is. The reality is that the skeptical position is the scientific, carefully considered position and the warmist / alarmist position is the political / non-reasoned / non-scientific position.

William Astley
July 25, 2014 7:30 pm

The warmists are running out of time to repeat their mantra. A significantly cooling planet is only possible if the majority of the warming in the last 50 years was not due to AGW.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_stddev_timeseries.png
There are more than a dozen independent observations and analysis results that support the assertion that the majority of the warming in the last 50 years was due to solar magnetic cycle changes rather than AGW.
http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_4096_4500.jpg

rogerknights
July 25, 2014 7:39 pm

Keating: “One question to those people, if deniers have never said man made global warming is not real, then just what have you guys been saying all this time? There is a long record of your statements about how global warming is a fraud, etc.”

What was implied by those statements, as context usually would have made clear, was that the global warming SCARE is a fraud, or CAGW is a fraud. This is evidence that Keating has only been reading what alarmists say that contrarians say, not the original material.

July 25, 2014 7:46 pm

richardscourtney says:
July 25, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Alec Rawls:
“The global temperature rise in the first half of the last century was very similar to the temperature rise in the second half of the last century.”
Indeed, Lindzen has shown that the slopes of these segments are essentially the same with his splitting of the graph, removing the temp and years on the graph. Surely if the we had an effect on the latter period, the upslope should be steeper and the the downslopes in cooling flatter. I’ve argued this before. If they are essentially the same, there is no need for the IPCC explanation of the latter as something different.

Darren Potter
July 25, 2014 7:48 pm

dccowboy says: “The steps of the scientific method are to: ”
Those [were] the pre AGW ‘steps of the scientific method’
The post AGW steps are:
Determine a Political goal
Research Public Fears related to goal and select
Create selected Crisis and call for Funding
Tie Crisis to related negative public observable events
Fabricate Data and make Exaggerated Claims on results
Issue numerous F.U.D. statements to Media
Stress dire need for additional Funding