California's future energy pipe dream

I wonder how they’ll manage to put 25,000 offshore wind turbines in place after seeing the long battle (back to 2001 for the first permit) to get Cape Wind in Massachusetts approved with enviros switching sides to protect viewsheds, and it still isn’t built. I can’t see California’s sensitive coastline to go any easier, and never mind the other projects they propose, which will have their own challenges. The biggest failure of the plan seems to be lack of backup power for when the wind doesn’t blow, the sun doesn’t shine, and the tides are lower than usual. – Anthony

Stanford study shows how to power California with wind, water and sun (press release via Eurekalert)

New Stanford research outlines the path to a possible future for California in which renewable energy creates a healthier environment, generates jobs and stabilizes energy prices.

By Rob Jordan

A Stanford study outlines how power from facilities such as the Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System in California’s Mojave Desert can be part of the state’s renewable energy future. (Courtesy of BrightSource Energy)

Imagine a smog-free Los Angeles, where electric cars ply silent freeways, solar panels blanket rooftops and power plants run on heat from beneath the earth, from howling winds and from the blazing desert sun.

A new Stanford study finds that it is technically and economically feasible to convert California’s all-purpose energy infrastructure to one powered by clean, renewable energy. Published in Energy, the plan shows the way to a sustainable, inexpensive and reliable energy supply in California that could create tens of thousands of jobs and save billions of dollars in pollution-related health costs.

“If implemented, this plan will eliminate air pollution mortality and global warming emissions from California, stabilize prices and create jobs – there is little downside,” said Mark Z. Jacobson, the study’s lead author and a Stanford professor of civil and environmental engineering. He is also the director of Stanford’s Atmosphere/Energy Program and a senior fellow with the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment and the Precourt Institute for Energy.

Jacobson’s study outlines a plan to fulfill all of the Golden State’s transportation, electric power, industry, and heating and cooling energy needs with renewable energy by 2050. It calculates the number of new devices and jobs created, land and ocean areas required, and policies needed for infrastructure changes. It also provides new estimates of air pollution mortality and morbidity impacts and costs based on multiple years of air quality data. The plan is analogous to one that Jacobson and other researchers developed for New York state.

The study concludes that, while a wind, water and sunlight conversion may result in initial capital cost increases, such as the cost of building renewable energy power plants, these costs would be more than made up for over time by the elimination of fuel costs. The overall switch would reduce California’s end-use power demand by about 44 percent and stabilize energy prices, since fuel costs would be zero, according to the study.

It would also create a net gain, after fossil-fuel and nuclear energy job losses are accounted for, of about 220,000 manufacturing, installation and technology construction and operation jobs. On top of that, the state would reap net earnings from these jobs of about $12 billion annually.

According to the researchers’ calculations, one scenario suggests that all of California’s 2050 power demands could be met with a mix of sources, including:

  • 25,000 onshore 5-megawatt wind turbines
  • 1,200 100-megawatt concentrated solar plants
  • 15 million 5-kilowatt residential rooftop photovoltaic systems
  • 72 100-megawatt geothermal plants
  • 5,000 0.75-megawatt wave devices
  • 3,400 1-megawatt tidal turbines

The study states that if California switched to wind, water and sunlight for renewable energy, air pollution-related deaths would decline by about 12,500 annually and the state would save about $103 billion, or about 4.9 percent of the state’s 2012 gross domestic product, in related health costs every year. The study also estimates that resultant emissions decreases would reduce global climate change costs in 2050 – such as coastal erosion and extreme weather damage – by about $48 billion per year.

“I think the most interesting finding is that the plan will reduce social costs related to air pollution and climate change by about $150 billion per year in 2050, and that these savings will pay for all new energy generation in only seven years,” said study co-author Mark Delucchi of the University of California, Davis.

“The technologies needed for a quick transition to an across-the-board, renewables-based statewide energy system are available today,” said Anthony Ingraffea, a Cornell University engineering professor and study co-author. “Like New York, California has a clear choice to make: Double down on 20th-century fossil fuels or accelerate toward a clean, green energy future.”

Currently, most of California’s energy comes from oil, natural gas, nuclear power and small amounts of coal. Under the plan that Jacobson and his fellow researchers advance, 55.5 percent of the state’s energy for all purposes would come from solar, 35 percent from wind and the remainder from a combination of hydroelectric, geothermal, tidal and wave energy.

All vehicles would run on battery-electric power and/or hydrogen fuel cells. Electricity-powered air- and ground-source heat pumps, geothermal heat, heat exchangers and backup electric resistance heaters would replace natural gas and oil for home heating and air-conditioning. Air- and ground-source heat pump water heaters powered by electricity and solar hot water preheaters would provide hot water for homes. High temperatures for industrial processes would be obtained with electricity and hydrogen combustion.

To ensure grid reliability, the plan outlines several methods to match renewable energy supply with demand and to smooth out the variability of wind, water and sunlight resources. These include a grid management system to shift times of demand to better match with timing of power supply; and “over-sizing” peak generation capacity to minimize times when available power is less than demand. The study refers to a previously published analysis that demonstrated that California could provide a reliable grid with nearly 100 percent clean, renewable energy.

The footprint on the ground for the new energy infrastructure would be about 0.9 percent of California’s land area, mostly for solar power plants. The spacing area between wind turbines, which could be used for multiple purposes, including agriculture and rangeland, is another 2.77 percent.

“I believe that with these plans, the people and political leaders of California and New York can chart a new way forward for our country and for the world,” said study co-author Robert Howarth, a Cornell University professor of ecology and environmental biology.

The study’s authors are developing similar plans for all U.S. states. They took no funding from any interest group, company or government agency for this study.

Rob Jordan is the communications writer for the Stanford Woods Institute for the Environment.

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mjc
July 24, 2014 9:12 pm

” bruce ryan says:
July 24, 2014 at 9:03 pm
I have run across people who believe wind can replace gas, nuke, oil, just by the concept that the wind is blowing somewhere. Facts and the limits of reality don’t impress them.”
It can…if one were to place all the windmills in the halls of Congress.

Shano
July 24, 2014 9:29 pm

Someday I’ll have a conversation with my grandchildren.” You know Junior, I remember when we had these majestic birds that could seemingly glide effortlessly on air…….until they put up those wind turbines. Now you never see them anymore. “

July 24, 2014 9:35 pm

Next-generation nuclear, which should include liquid fluoride thorium reactors, will power all of California and use less than 0.0009% of the land, not require spinning natural gas generator backup, spaghetti distribution lines, would not create eyesores all over the land and coast, and the spoiling of environmentally sensitive fragile deserts and marine sanctuaries. The piddly wave and tide generators, huge in number, small in output, would in all probability need more resources to build and maintain than the value of power produced. This sounds like a Rube Goldberg idea, without the humorous element.

pat
July 24, 2014 10:26 pm

23 July: Bloomberg: Rodrigo Orihuela: Iberdrola Profit Drops as Spain Renewable Subsidy Cuts Hit
Iberdrola SA (IBE), Spain’s largest utility, said first-half profit dropped 13 percent after a reduction in renewable-energy subsidies took full effect…
The Spanish government cut aid for renewable energy companies in July 2013 as Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy tried to shrink the deficit in the electricity system…
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-23/iberdrola-net-income-drops-as-spain-renewable-subsidy-cuts-hit.html
batty or not?
23 July: UK Herald Express: Killer wind turbines decimating bats claim
WIND turbines could be killing tens of thousands of bats — by giving them “the bends”…
And rather than being killed by flying into the blades, new research has claimed that bats suffer from an airborne version of the diver’s condition known as “the bends” when they fly too near wind turbines — making their lungs burst.
Concerns for the welfare of the creatures has already prompted dozens of challenges to schemes in the Westcountry…
Now Queen’s University Belfast has unearthed another potential problem, namely that pressure from the turbine blades causes a similar condition as that experienced by divers when the surface too quickly…
Dr Richard Holland claims that bats suffer from “barotrauma” when the approach the structures which can pop their lungs from inside their bodies.
He said energy companies should consider turning off turbines when bats are migrating…
http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Killer-wind-turbines-decimating-bats-claim/story-21747417-detail/story.html

pat
July 24, 2014 10:33 pm

24 July: Bloomberg: by Bloomberg News: Datang Renewables Estimates Loss as Wind Resources Worsen
China Datang Corp. Renewable Power Co. (1798), a wind project developer, said it may report a loss in the first half because it was less windy in most regions.
The company’s total electricity generation declined as a result, the Beijing-based company said today in a regulatory filing in Hong Kong…
Datang Renewables said July 15 that wind power generation declined 9 percent from a year ago to 5.05 million megawatt-hours as at the end of June.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/datang-renewables-estimates-loss-as-wind-resources-worsen.html

F. Ross
July 24, 2014 10:37 pm

“A Stanford study outlines …”
Someone actually gets paid to produce drivel like this?

Alcheson
July 24, 2014 10:39 pm

So many falsehoods. 1) There likely will be zero health savings. Perhaps a slight delay to the costs will be happen if the air gets a little cleaner… the people that would be dying at age70 due to pollution will instead be dying of cancer at age 80. Someone who would have died before going to the nursing home, may now live long enough to spend a year or two in the nursing home before croaking. So with regards to health savings… this has ALWAYS just been a red herring, something progressives use because they can magically make a large number appear that they can use to mislead people.
2) There would not be enough power to power up all of the electric automobiles. They pretty much tried to account for the current electrical generation capacity but if all of the gas powered cars are replaced with electric cars, probably going to need double, if not more, electrical generating capacity.
3) There will be frequent brownouts/blackouts – and energy rationing during times of most need. Forget about having a cool house on a cloudy summer day or a warm one on a cloudy winter day.
4) The supposed $103biilion a year savings from health (a possibly delay.. nothing else) and the $48 billion a year from coastal erosion (from abating a 0.02C/century temp rise???) and less severe weather are both actually ZERO savings. In the end, if they get their way, we will just end up with vastly more expensive energy, vastly less reliable energy. Substantially higher prices for everything else as everything takes energy to produce and transport. Practically any living animal that flies will be on the endangered species list within a year or two.

Hoser
July 24, 2014 10:47 pm

Been here, done that.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/02/wind-power-gets-bent-out-of-shape-in-wyoming/#comment-589348
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/13/the-futility-of-wind-power/#comment-598728
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/08/time-to-terminate-big-wind-subsidies/#comment-980433
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/25/new-strategy-for-utilizing-highly-variable-wind-power/#comment-1257094
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/16/the-levelized-cost-of-electric-generation/#comment-1569469
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/16/the-levelized-cost-of-electric-generation/#comment-1569478
Being a Cal graduate, I was never impressed by Stanford.
The 33% Renewables Portfolio Standard by 2020 will be expensive if it can be achieved at all. My guess is the projects already completed will be producing much less than their nominal amounts of power. Are they using nameplate capacity in RPS? What is the capacity factor of the renewable technologies? Being generous, maybe 30 to 50% would be reasonable capacity factors. What other costs are associated with the facilities counted toward the RPS goal? Operations and Maintenance will not be cheap. Large volumes of water to clean solar panels will be expensive. Despite the figures shown by the State of California, I’m dubious.
http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/PUC/energy/Renewables/

Jarmo
July 24, 2014 10:54 pm

Building over 400 GW of wind, solar and geothermal power capacity, as suggested by Jacobsen, is quite a project.
Germany has only managed built 35 GW of wind and 36 GW of solar this far…..

July 24, 2014 10:55 pm

“The study concludes that, while a wind, water and sunlight conversion may result in initial capital cost increases, …, these costs would be more than made up for over time by the elimination of fuel costs. The overall switch would reduce California’s end-use power demand by about 44 percent and stabilize energy prices, since fuel costs would be zero, according to the study.”
“…fuel costs would be zero…” Nuclear fuel costs approach zero when you look at total costs of power generation. Consumption of nuclear waste will power next-generation reactors, which will actually be a positive instead of a fuel cost. What is this blindness about nuclear power? The nuclear industry is in its infancy. We’ve had wind, solar, water, biomass, for thousands of years, and are still floundering to overcome their obvious deficiencies of low power density, intermittence, and impractical storage. Throwing government subsidies at power generation doesn’t make it less expensive to the consumer when the consumers are also taxpayers; it just takes resources from better uses to and expends them wastefully.
Your neighbor with solar on his roof bragging about how much he is saving on his electrical bill is getting his savings from your pocket, and in twenty years he will have to replace all of it.

Grey Lensman
July 24, 2014 11:00 pm

The largest study in renewable energy, production, supply and distribution to end users, is now giving clear results.
Free renewable energy results in the most expensive unreliable electricity.
pulling down working paid for dams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

July 24, 2014 11:01 pm

Jacobson was the subject of another article here:
Oh Lord! There Be Idiots at Stanford (WUWT Feb. 17, 2014)
There was some discussion of his figures from his appendix in his 2009 paper:

If you take a 5 MW/turbine (nameplate), 25% Capacity factor, and 8760 h/yr, you can get 11 GWhr/yr/turbine. D8 (w/ losses) is estimating 17 to 11 GWhr/yr/turbine. A little high for my taste, but not obviously wrong.
But at $0.057/kwh, that 11 GWhr/yr/turbine generates $0.624 million/yr/turbine. So capital accounting payout, no discounting, sans maintenance, is 16 years.
He lists only an energy payback time of 0.14-0.36 years at D16.

And from Phil

On page 2, under Wind Turbine Characteristics, they list the following as the numbers used to get their answers:
Turbine Capacity Factor: 42.46% (low case) 29.41% (high case)
Lifetime of wind turbine (yr): 30
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, … ROTFL, etc.
I calculated the actual capacity factor for wind from the German 2013 Solar and Wind report as 16.57%.

and many other comments.

July 24, 2014 11:09 pm

“Build it and they will come”. (Though many more will leave.) I really want to see how it all turns out. Be the “bleeding” edge so the rest of us can learn from California’s mistakes and use the leading edge technology that follows.

phlogiston
July 24, 2014 11:28 pm

“How can you tell is a left-winger is lying? His/her lips are moving.”
Turns out this is not just a predjudiced view but corresponds to scientific research reported in the Economist:
http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21607830-more-people-are-exposed-socialism-worse-they-behave-lying-commies

July 25, 2014 12:49 am

Earlier post “Power is instantaneous. Energy is an average of power. ”
No, Energy is the integral of power with respect to time. You pay for kilowatt-hours; about 50 cents per kilowatt-hour tier 3 daytime PGE rate.during the summer, less expensive at night and lower tiers. 600 kw-hr monthly usage costs me about $150.
The average power cost is about 25 cents per kilowatt-hour.
I’m continually getting cold calls from solar installation salesmen saying the government would help pay for their installation, but we’ve got hundreds of big trees and only a few hours of direct sunlight at any particular place in the summer–and that’s when the fog is not here.

July 25, 2014 1:14 am

Other comments have covered the main problems:
>Economically unsound.
The longer lived will not save the state money, the manufacturing jobs will be in the far east, not attracting interest from investment banks.
>Technically unworkable.
Wave power isn’t available, battery storage isn’t available, wind and solar are unreliable and will need replacing before the pay off date.
>Environmentally disastrous.
Those wind farms will devastate the birds and the bats and all the wildlife that relies on their propagation
But the article does tell us one thing of note:
Air Pollution is now being used as the motivator for Green Energy.
AGW is no longer the prime argument.
Who says the science argument is not worth winning? The politics is following.

knr
July 25, 2014 1:50 am

To ensure grid reliability, the plan outlines several methods to match renewable energy supply with demand and to smooth out the variability of wind, water and sunlight resources. These include a grid management system to shift times of demand to better match with timing of power supply; and “over-sizing” peak generation capacity to minimize times when available power
In other words rolling brown-outs to suit ‘supply ‘ not need , now I am sure business will not mind that at all , of course if they did some of these mythic jobs may never be created and quite a few others lost.

Dave Ward
July 25, 2014 3:26 am

We’ve had a similar proposal in the UK – “Zero Carbon Britain 2030” http://www.zcb2030.org/
It’s obvious there is no shortage of total fruitcakes on the planet…

cedarhill
July 25, 2014 3:57 am

The latest example of how propaganda works.
Even supposing a smog free LA is attainable using all-electricity, it’d likely be cheaper to run transmission cables from Japan’s nuclear power plants than their proposed solution. And, for example, drilling through all that fractured rock under Southern California will keep engineers in business designing earthquake proof bore holes, etc.

rtj1211
July 25, 2014 5:26 am

Has some hedge fund got to get out of some contracts or go bust or something??
I thought you guys were supposed to live in the ‘greatest democracy in the world’?? Sounds more like the greatest idiocracy………

MarkW
July 25, 2014 5:34 am

Environmentalists support wind, until someone tries to build a turbine.
Environmentalists support solar, until someone tries to build a solar field.
Environmentalists support hydro, until someone tries to build a dam.

MarkW
July 25, 2014 5:36 am

“where electric cars ply silent freeways”
When going 60 mph, no car is silent. Even with modern cars, the noisiest things are the tires.

MarkW
July 25, 2014 5:38 am

These guys actually believe that once they are built, renewable energy sources will run completely cost free.
Maintenance, even when you aren’t replacing parts costs money, because people want to get paid.
Then there is the constant replacing of broken and worn out parts.

MarkW
July 25, 2014 5:40 am

I love the way they casually mention that they will assure the reliability of the grid by creating systems that will match the load to the available power.
In other words, when they don’t have enough power, you get to sit in the dark, without AC, until the wind starts blowing again.

MarkW
July 25, 2014 5:46 am

Greg Goodman says:
July 24, 2014 at 2:14 pm
Since one of California’s biggest energy needs is air-con, there should be a lot of scope for powering this from solar. The days when there’s no sunshine in the sunshine state will be days that need less power for air-conditioners.
Also if there is a major move to electric vehicles the batteries in those vehecles are a form of distributed back up storage.
————–
Actually, the biggest user of electrical power is office and industrial.
Secondly, what about winter. When the sun isn’t shinning is when the heat pumps are most needed.
Finally, the batteries in electric cars could only be used as distributed back up if you had some way of getting the power out of the batteries and back into the grid.
Sheesh