Deep Oceans Are Cooling Amidst A Sea of Modeling Uncertainty: New Research on Ocean Heat Content

Guest essay by Jim Steele, Director emeritus Sierra Nevada Field Campus, San Francisco State University and author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism

Two of the world’s premiere ocean scientists from Harvard and MIT have addressed the data limitations that currently prevent the oceanographic community from resolving the differences among various estimates of changing ocean heat content (in print but available here).3 They point out where future data is most needed so these ambiguities do not persist into the next several decades of change. As a by-product of that analysis they 1) determined the deepest oceans are cooling, 2) estimated a much slower rate of ocean warming, 3) highlighted where the greatest uncertainties existed due to the ever changing locations of heating and cooling, and 4) specified concerns with previous methods used to construct changes in ocean heat content, such as Balmaseda and Trenberth’s re-analysis (see below).13 They concluded, “Direct determination of changes in oceanic heat content over the last 20 years are not in conflict with estimates of the radiative forcing, but the uncertainties remain too large to rationalize e.g., the apparent “pause” in warming.”

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Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) humbly admit that their “results differ in detail and in numerical values from other estimates, but the determining whether any are “correct” is probably not possible with the existing data sets.”

They estimate the changing states of the ocean by synthesizing diverse data sets using models developed by the consortium for Estimating the Circulation and Climate of the Ocean, ECCO. The ECCO “state estimates” have eliminated deficiencies of previous models and they claim, “unlike most “data assimilation” products, [ECCO] satisfies the model equations without any artificial sources or sinks or forces. The state estimate is from the free running, but adjusted, model and hence satisfies all of the governing model equations, including those for basic conservation of mass, heat, momentum, vorticity, etc. up to numerical accuracy.”

Their results (Figure 18. below) suggest a flattening or slight cooling in the upper 100 meters since 2004, in agreement with the -0.04 Watts/m2 cooling reported by Lyman (2014).6 The consensus of previous researchers has been that temperatures in the upper 300 meters have flattened or cooled since 2003,4 while Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) found the upper 700 meters still warmed up to 2009.

The deep layers contain twice as much heat as the upper 100 meters, and overall exhibit a clear cooling trend for the past 2 decades. Unlike the upper layers, which are dominated by the annual cycle of heating and cooling, they argue that deep ocean trends must be viewed as part of the ocean’s long term memory which is still responding to “meteorological forcing of decades to thousands of years ago”. If Balmaseda and Trenberth’s model of deep ocean warming was correct, any increase in ocean heat content must have occurred between 700 and 2000 meters, but the mechanisms that would warm that “middle layer” remains elusive.

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The detected cooling of the deepest oceans is quite remarkable given geothermal warming from the ocean floor. Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) note, “As with other extant estimates, the present state estimate does not yet account for the geothermal flux at the sea floor whose mean values (Pollack et al., 1993) are of order 0.1 W/m2,” which is small but “not negligible compared to any vertical heat transfer into the abyss.3 (A note of interest is an increase in heat from the ocean floor has recently been associated with increased basal melt of Antarctica’s Thwaites glacier. ) Since heated waters rise, I find it reasonable to assume that, at least in part, any heating of the “middle layers” likely comes from heat that was stored in the deepest ocean decades to thousands of years ago.

Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) emphasize the many uncertainties involved in attributing the cause of changes in the overall heat content concluding, “As with many climate-related records, the unanswerable question here is whether these changes are truly secular, and/or a response to anthropogenic forcing, or whether they are instead fragments of a general red noise behavior seen over durations much too short to depict the long time-scales of Fig. 6, 7, or the result of sampling and measurement biases, or changes in the temporal data density.”

Given those uncertainties, they concluded that much less heat is being added to the oceans compared to claims in previous studies (seen in the table below). It is interesting to note that compared to Hansen’s study that ended in 2003 before the observed warming pause, subsequent studies also suggest less heat is entering the oceans. Whether those declining trends are a result of improved methodologies, or due to a cooler sun, or both requires more observations.

 

 

Study Years Examined Watts/m2
9Hansen 2005 1993-2003 0.86 +/- 0.12
5Lyman 2010 1993-2008 0.64 +/- 0.11
10von Schuckmann 2011 2005-2010 0.54 +/- 0.1
3Wunsch 2014 1992-2011 0.2 +/- 0.1

 

No climate model had predicted the dramatically rising temperatures in the deep oceans calculated by the Balmaseda/Trenberth re-analysis,13 and oceanographers suggest such a sharp rise is more likely an artifact of shifting measuring systems. Indeed the unusual warming correlates with the switch to the Argo observing system. Wunsch and Heimbach (2013)2 wrote, “clear warnings have appeared in the literature—that spurious trends and values are artifacts of changing observation systems (see, e.g., Elliott and Gaffen, 1991; Marshall et al., 2002; Thompson et al., 2008)—the reanalyses are rarely used appropriately, meaning with the recognition that they are subject to large errors.3

More specifically Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) warned, “Data assimilation schemes running over decades are usually labeled “reanalyses.” Unfortunately, these cannot be used for heat or other budgeting purposes because of their violation of the fundamental conservation laws; see Wunsch and Heimbach (2013) for discussion of this important point. The problem necessitates close examination of claimed abyssal warming accuracies of 0.01 W/m2 based on such methods (e.g., Balmaseda et al., 2013).” 3

So who to believe?

Because ocean heat is stored asymmetrically and that heat is shifting 24/7, any limited sampling scheme will be riddled with large biases and uncertainties. In Figure 12 below Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) map the uneven densities of regionally stored heat. Apparently associated with its greater salinity, most of the central North Atlantic stores twice as much heat as any part of the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Regions where there are steep heat gradients require a greater sampling effort to avoid misleading results. They warned, “The relatively large heat content of the Atlantic Ocean could, if redistributed, produce large changes elsewhere in the system and which, if not uniformly observed, show artificial changes in the global average.” 3

 

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Furthermore, due to the constant time-varying heat transport, regions of warming are usually compensated by regions of cooling as illustrated in their Figure 15. It offers a wonderful visualization of the current state of those natural ocean oscillations by comparing changes in heat content between1992 and 2011. Those patterns of heat re-distributions evolve enormous amounts of heat and that make detection of changes in heat content that are many magnitudes smaller extremely difficult. Again any uneven sampling regime in time or space, would result in “artificial changes in the global average”.

Figure 15 shows the most recent effects of La Nina and the negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation. The eastern Pacific has cooled, while simultaneously the intensifying trade winds have swept more warm water into the western Pacific causing it to warm. Likewise heat stored in the mid‑Atlantic has likely been transported northward as that region has cooled while simultaneously the sub‑polar seas have warmed. This northward change in heat content is in agreement with earlier discussions about cycles of warm water intrusions that effect Arctic sea ice, confounded climate models of the Arctic and controls the distribution of marine organisms.

Most interesting is the observed cooling throughout the upper 700 meters of the Arctic. There have been 2 competing explanations for the unusually warm Arctic air temperature that heavily weights the global average. CO2 driven hypotheses argue global warming has reduced polar sea ice that previously reflected sunlight, and now the exposed dark waters are absorbing more heat and raising water and air temperatures. But clearly a cooling upper Arctic Ocean suggests any absorbed heat is insignificant. Despite greater inflows of warm Atlantic water, declining heat content of the upper 700 meters supports the competing hypothesis that warmer Arctic air temperatures are, at least in part, the result of increased ventilation of heat that was previously trapped by a thick insulating ice cover.7 That second hypothesis is also in agreement with extensive observations that Arctic air temperatures had been cooling in the 80s and 90s. Warming occurred after subfreezing winds, re‑directed by the Arctic Oscillation, drove thick multi-year ice out from the Arctic.11

Regional cooling is also detected along the storm track from the Caribbean and along eastern USA. This evidence contradicts speculation that hurricanes in the Atlantic will or have become more severe due to increasing ocean temperatures. This also confirms earlier analyses of blogger Bob Tisdale and others that Superstorm Sandy was not caused by warmer oceans.

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In order to support their contention that the deep ocean has been dramatically absorbing heat, Balmaseda/Trenberth must provide a mechanism and the regional observations where heat has been carried from the surface to those depths. But few are to be found. Warming at great depths and simultaneous cooling of the surface is antithetical to climate models predictions. Models had predicted global warming would store heat first in the upper layer and stratify that layer. Diffusion would require hundreds to thousands of years, so it is not the mechanism. Trenberth, Rahmstorf, and others have argued the winds could drive heat below the surface. Indeed winds can drive heat downward in a layer that oceanographers call the “mixed-layer,” but the depth where wind mixing occurs is restricted to a layer roughly 10-200 meters thick over most of the tropical and mid-latitude belts. And those depths have been cooling slightly.

The only other possible mechanism that could reasonably explain heat transfer to the deep ocean was that the winds could tilt the thermocline. The thermocline delineates a rapid transition between the ocean’s warm upper layer and cold lower layer. As illustrated above in Figure 15, during a La Nina warm waters pile up in the western Pacific and deepens the thermocline. But the tilting Pacific thermocline typically does not dip below the 700 meters, if ever.8

Unfortunately the analysis by Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) does not report on changes in the layer between 700 meters and 2000 meters. However based on changes in heat content below 2000 meters (their Figure 16 below), deeper layers of the Pacific are practically devoid of any deep warming.

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The one region transporting the greatest amount of heat into the deep oceans is the ice forming regions around Antarctica, especially the eastern Weddell Sea where annually sea ice has been expanding.12 Unlike the Arctic, the Antarctic is relatively insulated from intruding subtropical waters (discussed here) so any deep warming is mostly from heat descending from above with a small contribution from geothermal.

Counter‑intuitively greater sea ice production can deliver relatively warmer subsurface water to the ocean abyss. When oceans freeze, the salt is ejected to form a dense brine with a temperature that always hovers at the freezing point. Typically this unmodified water is called shelf water. Dense shelf water readily sinks to the bottom of the polar seas. However in transit to the bottom, shelf water must pass through layers of variously modified Warm Deep Water or Antarctic Circumpolar Water. Turbulent mixing also entrains some of the warmer water down to the abyss. Warm Deep Water typically comprises 62% of the mixed water that finally reaches the bottom. Any altered dynamic (such as increasing sea ice production, or circulation effects that entrain a greater proportion of Warm Deep Water), can redistribute more heat to the abyss.14. Due to the Antarctic Oscillation the warmer waters carried by the Antarctic Circumpolar Current have been observed to undulate southward bringing those waters closer to ice forming regions. Shelf waters have generally cooled and there has been no detectable warming of the Warm Deep Water core, so this region’s deep ocean warming is likely just re-distributing heat and not adding to the ocean heat content.

So it remains unclear if and how Trenberth’s “missing heat” has sunk to the deep ocean. The depiction of a dramatic rise in deep ocean heat is highly questionable, even though alarmists have flaunted it as proof of Co2’s power. As Dr. Wunsch had warned earlier, “Convenient assumptions should not be turned prematurely into ‘facts,’ nor uncertainties and ambiguities suppressed.” … “Anyone can write a model: the challenge is to demonstrate its accuracy and precision… Otherwise, the scientific debate is controlled by the most articulate, colorful, or adamant players.” 1

 

To reiterate, “the uncertainties remain too large to rationalize e.g., the apparent “pause” in warming.”

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Literature Cited

 

1. C. Wunsch, 2007. The Past and Future Ocean Circulation from a Contemporary Perspective, in AGU Monograph, 173, A. Schmittner, J. Chiang and S. Hemming, Eds., 53-74

2. Wunsch, C. and P. Heimbach (2013) Dynamically and Kinematically Consistent Global Ocean Circulation and Ice State Estimates. In Ocean Circulation and Climate, Vol. 103. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/B978-0-12-391851-2.00021-0

3. Wunsch, C., and P. Heimbach, (2014) Bidecadal Thermal Changes in the Abyssal Ocean, J. Phys. Oceanogr., http://dx.doi.org/10.1175/JPO-D-13-096.1

4. Xue,Y., et al., (2012) A Comparative Analysis of Upper-Ocean Heat Content Variability from an Ensemble of Operational Ocean Reanalyses. Journal of Climate, vol 25, 6905-6929.

5. Lyman, J. et al, (2010) Robust warming of the global upper ocean. Nature, vol. 465,334-

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6. Lyman, J. and G. Johnson (2014) Estimating Global Ocean Heat Content Changes in the Upper 1800m since 1950 and the Influence of Climatology Choice*. Journal of Climate, vol 27.

7. Rigor, I.G., J.M. Wallace, and R.L. Colony (2002), Response of Sea Ice to the Arctic Oscillation, J. Climate, v. 15, no. 18, pp. 2648 – 2668.

8. Zhang, R. et al. (2007) Decadal change in the relationship between the oceanic entrainment temperature and thermocline depth in the far western tropical Pacific. Geophysical Research Letters, Vol. 34.

9. Hansen, J., and others, 2005: Earth’s energy imbalance: confirrmation and implications. Science, vol. 308, 1431-1435.

10. von Schuckmann, K., and P.-Y. Le Traon, 2011: How well can we derive Global Ocean Indicators

from Argo data?, Ocean Sci., 7, 783-791, doi:10.5194/os-7-783-2011.

11. Kahl, J., et al., (1993) Absence of evidence for greenhouse warming over the Arctic Ocean in the past 40 years. Nature, vol. 361, p. 335‑337, doi:10.1038/361335a0

12. Parkinson, C. and D. Cavalieri (2012) Antarctic sea ice variability and trends, 1979–2010. The Cryosphere, vol. 6, 871–880.

13. Balmaseda, M. A., K. E. Trenberth, and E. Kallen, 2013: Distinctive climate signals in reanalysis of global ocean heat content. Geophysical Research Letters, 40, 1754-1759.

14. Azaneau, M. et al. (2013) Trends in the deep Southern Ocean (1958–2010): Implications for Antarctic Bottom Water properties and volume export. Journal Of Geophysical Research: Oceans, Vol. 118

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Pamela Gray
July 22, 2014 7:03 am

Richard, it is through mixing that energy is dissipated and sent to deeper layers. The oceans have a complicated web of currents. Most people think only of the overturning grand current. Here is a link to a more accurate depiction of currents that have the ability to readily send warmer water into the sea, even under colder water. I know it is Wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt but it is generally a pretty good basic overview. Read especially about the counter and undercurrents. The entire thing is quite complicated and easily allows for rapid mixing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_current

richard verney
July 22, 2014 8:47 am

Pamela Gray says:
July 22, 2014 at 7:03 am
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Thanks, but the issue is the speed at which the energy being absoprbed per second, is taken downward to depth at a rate faster than that energy would drive evaporation.
Ocean currents, are slow (in relative terms) mechanical processes taking along time to mix the water, so whilst I accept that “the entire thing is quite complicated” I disagree that it “easily allows for rapid mixing.”
According to The Encyclopaedia Britannica on ocean currents, “…Vertical movements, often referred to as upwelling and downwelling, exhibit much lower speeds, amounting to only a few metres per month…” (see: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/424354/ocean-current ) So we are talking about say 2 to 3 centimetres per day
Further, currents are far from uniform depending not only on localised topography but also weather patterns (prevailing or temporary) and not infrequently have a diurnal signature such that of the 2 to 3 centimetre movement, very little of that may be during the daylight hours of the day, and the vast majority may be at night. So during the day, the vertical mixing may be a few millimetres, the rest of the 2 to 3 centimetre mixing take place at night. So in reality we have 12 hours of high level DWLWIR (DWLWIR being greater during the day than at night), and only a millimetre or so of vertical mixing during the day.
And what about lakes and swimming pools where vertical mixing rates will be even slower. If the top 4 microns of those are absoprbing circa 260 w/m2 of DWLWIR on a 24/7 basis, one would expect to see rapid evaporation from them. But this also is not seen.
I do not know where the answer lies, and I accept that the point I raise may not have merit but it is difficult to heat water that is free to evaporate by LWIR, and the point I raise is consitent with that.
As I say, i would like to see a real time energy budget for what is going on at the very top of the ocean and energy budgets for layers thereunder, as well as a detailed explanation of the physical processes involved..

richard verney
July 22, 2014 8:50 am

Further to my post above, the vertical rate should have been about 6 to 10 cm per day.

July 22, 2014 8:59 am

, Pamela
Perhaps I should tell you again that I have tried to heat my pool to beyond 30C and it was just impossible (1000m altitude here). Just like the oceans also do not warm [much] above 30 anywhere. It seems there is a certain threshold pressure and temp. (around 30C) whereby water than evaporates rather then ” that energy is dissipated and sent to deeper layers”
H2O (l) + energy = > H2O (g). (mostly SH)
This energy is released into the atmosphere when it is taken with the wind (mostly to NH)
Hence, temps. in SH have not changed much, whatever the cycle is we are in.
You can see this from the Means table
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/files/2013/02/henryspooltableNEWa.pdf
(the one in the middle)

phlogiston
July 22, 2014 9:38 am

Roy Spencer on July 21, 2014 at 3:35 pm

2) Deep water cooling and upper ocean warming can occur just through a decrease in vertical mixing, which is mostly mechanically driven by the wind and by tidally forced flows over bottom topography.
I agree with this statement by Dr Spencer about vertical mixing. As I have commented before, the strong vertical gradient in temperature in the ocean with temperature declining sharply with depth, has an important and simple implication: any increase in vertical mixing will result in downward movement of heat and cooling at the ocean surface (and of “climate” as perceived by people).
Thus research attention should focus on sites and processes of deep mixing, such as downwelling at the Norwegian sea and Antarctica, and major upwelling sites at western continental borders such as Africa and South America.

phlogiston
July 22, 2014 9:41 am

HenryP on July 22, 2014 at 8:59 am
, Pamela
But my kettle heated all the way up to 100 degrees – WUWT?

July 22, 2014 10:25 am

Jim Steele said:
“CO2 driven hypotheses argue global warming has reduced polar sea ice..”
I don’t see how they can get away with that. The warming of the Arctic and AMO since 1995 is associated with the increase of negative NAO/AO values, while the climate models all predict increases in positive NAO/AO values with increases in GHG forcing.

July 22, 2014 10:32 am

@phlogiston
we are talking of natural heat supplied by the sun
(solar heating only)

July 22, 2014 11:02 am

richard verney says:
July 22, 2014 at 8:47 am
The ocean surface is not placid. It is frothy. Depending on wind speed.
Vertical movements, often referred to as upwelling and downwelling, exhibit much lower speeds, amounting to only a few metres per month
Is not all that is going on.

richard verney
July 22, 2014 2:17 pm

M Simon says:
July 22, 2014 at 11:02 am
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I am very well acquainted with ocean states (prevailing wind, current, swell, temperature), at least as far as those encountered by commercial shipping, having reviewed hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of entries in ship’s logs, wherein entries are recorded every 4 hours, and if conditions are particularly unusual or of concern, even more frequent notes may be kept..
There is another, but related problem that arises when you get severe weather, say BF7 and above, and that is that the very surface of the ocean gets detached from the bulk ocean below in the form of windswept spray and spume.
This is a very fine mist of water droplets of varying sizes but probably not less than a few microns (it is very different to the fine atomised mist produced by forcing a liquid at high pressure through a very restricted nozzle), each of which would (according to the absorption characteristics of LWIR) fully absorb about 50% of the DWLWIR, thereby energising that droplet promoting evaporation of that droplet.
Some of these energised water droplets will no doubt get returned to the bulk ocean in a relatively short order, but others will not being swept up and along by the wind. For that latter group of droplets they will be absorbing so much DWLWIR whilst airborn that they will/should simply evaporate before.they get an opportunity to be retunred to the bulk ocean And this is material to the energy budget of the ocean.
Now of course these conditions are not encountered all the time over all the oceans, however even if such conditions are encountered for just 15% to 20% of the time (and the average wind conditions over the oceans is more than BF4 such that wind condions of BF7 is not particularly unusual) we might be talking about as much as at least 1 w/m2 of DWLWIR that never reaches the oceans and instead remains in the atmosphere.
This becomes an issue when you start discussing potential energy imbalance, and in particular when you start looking for a missing watt or part thereof. As the authors of this paper are seeking to do.
The K&T energy budget assumes a quiet and docile world, and completely fails to take account that what powers the climate is variance. One important point is that the climate is powered by the fvery act that the energy is not some homogonised average 24/7, but is in practice a constantly changing energy budget 24/7.
I consider that there are strong reasons to consider that not all the DWLWIR in his budget is absorbed by the oceans, in fact some of it never reaches the oceans in the first place since windswept spray and spume is an effective LWIR block and a certain element of that windswept spray and spume would simply be evaporated and carried upwards into the atmosphere before the DWLWIR that was absorbed by the mist of water droplets gets a chance to be returned to the ocean.
This may only be a small component, but when seeking to check wether a budget balances, it takes on a special importance. After all, in acounting terms, small errors in a budget (that is supposed to balance), often suggest more fundamental problems. .

Pamela Gray
July 22, 2014 6:30 pm

Richard V., my physics is weak but I seem to recall that evaporation is only skin deep, meaning that mixing can keep lots more heat than is evaporated away. Evaporation is a surface process whereas mixing is a water column process.
It is an amazing thing that surface skin tension. It can kill a human to break through that skin and gave me my first and only slap in the face when I was learning how to dive. STING!

1sky1
July 22, 2014 6:46 pm

It’s a misconception that the oceans manifest a circulation analogous to “when mid-tropospheric air is forced to sink against the buoyancy force (because the lapse rate is sub-adiabatic) by upward convection in rainfall systems hundreds or thousands of miles away.” Water is virtually incompressible and a mid-ocean parcel sinks/rises only if it’s denser/lighter than the mass below/above it. The exception occurs with wind-driven upwelling along coasts, where Ekman drift may drive the warm surface layer seaward and expose the cooler layer underneath, which rises through hydrostatic adjustment.

scot
July 22, 2014 9:27 pm

I know I’m going to get hammered here for bringing up the solar cycle, but might there be some connection between less intense blue/UV wavelengths during this cycle and some of the cooling?
I ask because blue/UV penetrates sea water very well while IR/red is mostly absorbed near the surface.
It seems that if the sun where going to directly warm the deeper part of the oceans over time, it would be primarily through the shorter wavelengths. Any energy in the longer yellow/red/IR wavelengths is going to wind up creating more water vapor.

July 23, 2014 1:45 am

The cooling of the deep oceans is probably the signal of the Little Ice Age.
Boreholes on land have been used to read paleo-temperatures for decades. I see no reason why the oceans should not reveal the warm and cold periods of the past 2000 years and perhaps longer.

richard verney
July 23, 2014 3:42 am

scot says:
July 22, 2014 at 9:27 pm
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There could be merit in your point. I for one do not consider a watt of energy wherever it may be in the system is the same. The precise location where energy is absorbed (or released) is important.
So whilst TSI may not vary much, any spectral change may well have an impact. Given than the over turning of the ocean is on a millenium timescale, what impacts upon us, in today’s time scale, is the heat content of the top 100 metres of the oceans. If there are changes not in the total amount of energy absorbed (perhaps this mainly being a factor of TSI and clouds) but changes in the distribution of the amount absorbed within say 10 metres, 11 metre, 12 metre bands going down to say 50 or so metres, then that could have a measurable effect on SST in a relatively short time scale.
Of course, we have yet to observe such changes, but that is why a ‘quiet’ sun (if that does occur) may be of interest.

climatereason
Editor
July 23, 2014 4:07 am

Richard
I always enjoy your comments and thought you might be interested in this response I made on this subject over at Climate Etc
http://judithcurry.com/2014/07/22/are-the-deep-oceans-cooling/#comment-610828
Basically, I heard Thomas Stocker of the IPCC admit that they did not have the technology to understand what is happening at around 2000 metres let alone at the abyssal depths.
tonyb

Paul Vaughan
July 23, 2014 5:35 am

Bill Illis, 1sky1, or any other sensible, competent commentator:
I request assistance locating trustworthy information on the following spatial pattern:
http://landscapesandcycles.net/image/92558997.png
…which is figure 12 (p.48) here:
http://ocean.mit.edu/~cwunsch/papersonline/heatcontentchange_26dec2013_ph.pdf
Links to concise info on spatial patterns in the following figures would also be helpful:
13 (p.49)
8 (p.44)
11 (p.47)
More generally, links to reliable info on the spatial pattern of absolute (NOT ANOMALY) center & spread (mean & SD) as a function of depth would be greatly appreciated.
Regards

Paul Vaughan
July 23, 2014 5:55 am

Jim Steele wrote:
“Indeed winds can drive heat downward in a layer that oceanographers call the “mixed-layer,” but the depth where wind mixing occurs is restricted to a layer roughly 10-200 meters thick over most of the tropical and mid-latitude belts.”
The preceding is inconsistent with the following:
http://www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/global/mixed_layer_depth.jpg
animation of ocean MLD (mixed layer depth) climatology:
http://s1.postimg.org/f1qylntkv/Mixed_Layer_Depth.gif
Credit:
de Boyer Montegut, C.; Madec, G.; Fischer, A.S.; Lazar, A.; & Iudicone, D. (2004). Mixed layer depth over the global ocean: An examination of profile data and a profile-based climatology. Journal of Geophysical Research 109, C12003.
http://www.ifremer.fr/cerweb/deboyer/publications/2004_deBoyerMontegut_et_al_JGR.pdf
Figure 5 = MLD climatology
Figure 14 = annual maximum of MLD

July 23, 2014 6:12 am

scot says:
July 22, 2014 at 9:27 pm
Fear not seeker of the solar light!
See the graphic from http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/28/solar-spectral-irradiance-uv-and-declining-solar-activity/ that supports your thought process and/or question, made by A. Watts: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/ocean-penetration-by-solar-spectrum1.png

Paul Vaughan
July 23, 2014 6:38 am

The spin Judy Curry put on her parallel article reminded me of my suspicion towards mainstream climate “scientists” for minimizing the wind’s role in standard thermohaline circulation narratives. I suspect many of these theorists are divorced from firsthand observation of wind ripping apart rotten ice and wrecking vertical stratification.

climatereason
Editor
July 23, 2014 6:48 am

Paul
I agree with your comment about wind. It rips apart rotten ice, churns up the ocean and in its many guises in warmer waters as waterspouts and hurricanes transfers heat from ocean to atmosphere in astonishing amounts
Some decades are much windier than others and it is reasonable to think that the quiet periods will exhibit different temperature patterns than the windier ones on land and oceans.
tonyb

climatereason
Editor
July 23, 2014 6:54 am

Paul
Your question is way above my competency, but have you tried John Kennedy at the Met Office?His speciality is ocean temperatures
He often engages at Climate Etc and I have corresponded personally with him and found him helpful. His email is;
john.kennedy@metoffice.gov.uk
tonyb

Bill Illis
July 23, 2014 7:13 am

In terms of the temperature changes used for the heat content calculations in this paper, they are extremely small, on the order of less than 0.001C over the period.
The Pacific/Indian/East Atlantic is cooling and the far Southern Ocean/West Atlantic is warming.
The deep ocean is mostly close to 0.5C. It can’t really get much colder than this. Even in the deepest parts of the ice ages, it might only have been 1.0C cooler. As ocean water cools below -1.0C, (approaching -1.6C for example given the average salinity), it will become less dense and it will rise, so that it warms as it rises in the ocean column. The ocean is stratified with cold,salty water around 0.0C to 1.5C at the bottom (and all of this originated next to and under the sea ice at Antarctica and the Arctic).
Figure 2 in the paper shows the average ocean temp profile from the surface to 6000 metres (about 0.5C)
Here are more-detailed cross-section profiles from World Ocean Atlas for the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian Oceans.
Central Atlantic cross-section, dominated by Antarctic Bottom Water in the south until it reaches the mid-Atlantic Ridge about at the equator, 0.5C at the bottom, (with some parts in the Weddell Sea reaching 0.0C), while the northern Atlantic is dominated by the Arctic Bottom Water at about 1.5C.
http://www.ewoce.org/gallery/A16_TPOT.gif
East Atlantic: [Note there are points in the western Atlantic and the far eastern Atlantic where the Arctic Bottom Water pushes south to the 20S since it has greater momentum/forward pressure and the mid-Atlantic ridge deviates to east here.
http://www.ewoce.org/gallery/A13_TPOT.gif
Central Pacific cross-section: dominated by Antarctic Bottom Water at about 1.0C at the bottom, 0.5C and 0.0C next to Antarctica.
http://www.ewoce.org/gallery/P16_TPOT.gif
Indian Ocean; dominated by Antarctic Bottom Water with some sinking areas next to Antarctica in the Ross Sea reaching as low as 0.0C.
http://www.ewoce.org/gallery/I8_TPOT.gif

phlogiston
July 23, 2014 2:24 pm

Climate cooling and glacial expansion episodes in the Holocene with ~2500 year periodicity may be caused by intermittent inter-layer turbulence in ocean circulation.
Phlogiston
WUWT Journal of Climate Science 2014
During the Holocene there have been acute episodes of cooling and glacial expansion with approximately 2500 year periodicity:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0033589473900409
The most recent and most acute of these has been the “little ice age” between 100-700 years ago. Other such episodes occurred at 2400-3100, 5000-6100, 7800-8800 and 1300+ years ago.
http://www.whoi.edu/science/GG/paleoseminar/pdf/obrien95.pdf
While ocean depths of 2-5 km might seem deep, in the context of the thousands of km width of ocean basins the oceans can be considered as a thin film. The literature of fluid flow and turbulence in thin films thus is applicable to ocean circulation patterns on all timescales, including the phenomenon of intermittent turbulence.
There are two distinct layers of ocean circulation, the deep and surface circulation systems. A frequent feature of bounded fluid flow such as in a thin film is intermittent turbulence – i.e. acute and separated episodes of turbulence interspaced with periods of more stable laminar flow.
Meneveau and Sreenivasan (1989) illucidated the (Kolmogorov) fractality of the intermittence of turbulent mixing of two separate circulating fluid layers “A ad B” analogous to the surface and deep circulation systems of the world’s oceans.
http://users.ictp.trieste.it/~krs/pdf/1990_002.pdf
Here it is proposed that during the Meneveau and Sreenivasan’s description of intermittent turbulence between two layers is applicable to the deep and surface ocean circulation systems. Over the Holocene period – the last 12000 years – the several acute episodes of cooling and glacial advance are proposed to be caused by intermittent outbreaks of increased turbulent mixing between the deep ocean and ocean surface layers. On a global scale, increases in vertical mixing caused by turbulent mixing of deep and surface layers will move heat downward and cool the climate on account of the strong vertical stratification of temperature with sharp decrease in temperature with depth, especially near the surface.
Analogous intermittent turbulence of air flow in the surface boundary layer has also been studied:
http://edepot.wur.nl/30174
Other papers on intermittent turbulence:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1019993703820
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4612-2150-0_15
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/3-540-05716-1_20

Keith Sketchley
July 23, 2014 2:24 pm

I commend anyone who tries to identify gaps in data coverage that need to be filled.
My Missouri Position is that no analyses of climate are valid, because data is not there.