Guest essay by Jim Steele, Director emeritus Sierra Nevada Field Campus, San Francisco State University and author of Landscapes & Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism
Two of the world’s premiere ocean scientists from Harvard and MIT have addressed the data limitations that currently prevent the oceanographic community from resolving the differences among various estimates of changing ocean heat content (in print but available here).3 They point out where future data is most needed so these ambiguities do not persist into the next several decades of change. As a by-product of that analysis they 1) determined the deepest oceans are cooling, 2) estimated a much slower rate of ocean warming, 3) highlighted where the greatest uncertainties existed due to the ever changing locations of heating and cooling, and 4) specified concerns with previous methods used to construct changes in ocean heat content, such as Balmaseda and Trenberth’s re-analysis (see below).13 They concluded, “Direct determination of changes in oceanic heat content over the last 20 years are not in conflict with estimates of the radiative forcing, but the uncertainties remain too large to rationalize e.g., the apparent “pause” in warming.”
Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) humbly admit that their “results differ in detail and in numerical values from other estimates, but the determining whether any are “correct” is probably not possible with the existing data sets.”
They estimate the changing states of the ocean by synthesizing diverse data sets using models developed by the consortium for Estimating the Circulation and Climate of the Ocean, ECCO. The ECCO “state estimates” have eliminated deficiencies of previous models and they claim, “unlike most “data assimilation” products, [ECCO] satisfies the model equations without any artificial sources or sinks or forces. The state estimate is from the free running, but adjusted, model and hence satisfies all of the governing model equations, including those for basic conservation of mass, heat, momentum, vorticity, etc. up to numerical accuracy.”
Their results (Figure 18. below) suggest a flattening or slight cooling in the upper 100 meters since 2004, in agreement with the -0.04 Watts/m2 cooling reported by Lyman (2014).6 The consensus of previous researchers has been that temperatures in the upper 300 meters have flattened or cooled since 2003,4 while Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) found the upper 700 meters still warmed up to 2009.
The deep layers contain twice as much heat as the upper 100 meters, and overall exhibit a clear cooling trend for the past 2 decades. Unlike the upper layers, which are dominated by the annual cycle of heating and cooling, they argue that deep ocean trends must be viewed as part of the ocean’s long term memory which is still responding to “meteorological forcing of decades to thousands of years ago”. If Balmaseda and Trenberth’s model of deep ocean warming was correct, any increase in ocean heat content must have occurred between 700 and 2000 meters, but the mechanisms that would warm that “middle layer” remains elusive.
The detected cooling of the deepest oceans is quite remarkable given geothermal warming from the ocean floor. Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) note, “As with other extant estimates, the present state estimate does not yet account for the geothermal flux at the sea floor whose mean values (Pollack et al., 1993) are of order 0.1 W/m2,” which is small but “not negligible compared to any vertical heat transfer into the abyss.3 (A note of interest is an increase in heat from the ocean floor has recently been associated with increased basal melt of Antarctica’s Thwaites glacier. ) Since heated waters rise, I find it reasonable to assume that, at least in part, any heating of the “middle layers” likely comes from heat that was stored in the deepest ocean decades to thousands of years ago.
Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) emphasize the many uncertainties involved in attributing the cause of changes in the overall heat content concluding, “As with many climate-related records, the unanswerable question here is whether these changes are truly secular, and/or a response to anthropogenic forcing, or whether they are instead fragments of a general red noise behavior seen over durations much too short to depict the long time-scales of Fig. 6, 7, or the result of sampling and measurement biases, or changes in the temporal data density.”
Given those uncertainties, they concluded that much less heat is being added to the oceans compared to claims in previous studies (seen in the table below). It is interesting to note that compared to Hansen’s study that ended in 2003 before the observed warming pause, subsequent studies also suggest less heat is entering the oceans. Whether those declining trends are a result of improved methodologies, or due to a cooler sun, or both requires more observations.
| Study | Years Examined | Watts/m2 |
| 9Hansen 2005 | 1993-2003 | 0.86 +/- 0.12 |
| 5Lyman 2010 | 1993-2008 | 0.64 +/- 0.11 |
| 10von Schuckmann 2011 | 2005-2010 | 0.54 +/- 0.1 |
| 3Wunsch 2014 | 1992-2011 | 0.2 +/- 0.1 |
No climate model had predicted the dramatically rising temperatures in the deep oceans calculated by the Balmaseda/Trenberth re-analysis,13 and oceanographers suggest such a sharp rise is more likely an artifact of shifting measuring systems. Indeed the unusual warming correlates with the switch to the Argo observing system. Wunsch and Heimbach (2013)2 wrote, “clear warnings have appeared in the literature—that spurious trends and values are artifacts of changing observation systems (see, e.g., Elliott and Gaffen, 1991; Marshall et al., 2002; Thompson et al., 2008)—the reanalyses are rarely used appropriately, meaning with the recognition that they are subject to large errors.”3
More specifically Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) warned, “Data assimilation schemes running over decades are usually labeled “reanalyses.” Unfortunately, these cannot be used for heat or other budgeting purposes because of their violation of the fundamental conservation laws; see Wunsch and Heimbach (2013) for discussion of this important point. The problem necessitates close examination of claimed abyssal warming accuracies of 0.01 W/m2 based on such methods (e.g., Balmaseda et al., 2013).” 3
So who to believe?
Because ocean heat is stored asymmetrically and that heat is shifting 24/7, any limited sampling scheme will be riddled with large biases and uncertainties. In Figure 12 below Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) map the uneven densities of regionally stored heat. Apparently associated with its greater salinity, most of the central North Atlantic stores twice as much heat as any part of the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Regions where there are steep heat gradients require a greater sampling effort to avoid misleading results. They warned, “The relatively large heat content of the Atlantic Ocean could, if redistributed, produce large changes elsewhere in the system and which, if not uniformly observed, show artificial changes in the global average.” 3
Furthermore, due to the constant time-varying heat transport, regions of warming are usually compensated by regions of cooling as illustrated in their Figure 15. It offers a wonderful visualization of the current state of those natural ocean oscillations by comparing changes in heat content between1992 and 2011. Those patterns of heat re-distributions evolve enormous amounts of heat and that make detection of changes in heat content that are many magnitudes smaller extremely difficult. Again any uneven sampling regime in time or space, would result in “artificial changes in the global average”.
Figure 15 shows the most recent effects of La Nina and the negative Pacific Decadal Oscillation. The eastern Pacific has cooled, while simultaneously the intensifying trade winds have swept more warm water into the western Pacific causing it to warm. Likewise heat stored in the mid‑Atlantic has likely been transported northward as that region has cooled while simultaneously the sub‑polar seas have warmed. This northward change in heat content is in agreement with earlier discussions about cycles of warm water intrusions that effect Arctic sea ice, confounded climate models of the Arctic and controls the distribution of marine organisms.
Most interesting is the observed cooling throughout the upper 700 meters of the Arctic. There have been 2 competing explanations for the unusually warm Arctic air temperature that heavily weights the global average. CO2 driven hypotheses argue global warming has reduced polar sea ice that previously reflected sunlight, and now the exposed dark waters are absorbing more heat and raising water and air temperatures. But clearly a cooling upper Arctic Ocean suggests any absorbed heat is insignificant. Despite greater inflows of warm Atlantic water, declining heat content of the upper 700 meters supports the competing hypothesis that warmer Arctic air temperatures are, at least in part, the result of increased ventilation of heat that was previously trapped by a thick insulating ice cover.7 That second hypothesis is also in agreement with extensive observations that Arctic air temperatures had been cooling in the 80s and 90s. Warming occurred after subfreezing winds, re‑directed by the Arctic Oscillation, drove thick multi-year ice out from the Arctic.11
Regional cooling is also detected along the storm track from the Caribbean and along eastern USA. This evidence contradicts speculation that hurricanes in the Atlantic will or have become more severe due to increasing ocean temperatures. This also confirms earlier analyses of blogger Bob Tisdale and others that Superstorm Sandy was not caused by warmer oceans.
In order to support their contention that the deep ocean has been dramatically absorbing heat, Balmaseda/Trenberth must provide a mechanism and the regional observations where heat has been carried from the surface to those depths. But few are to be found. Warming at great depths and simultaneous cooling of the surface is antithetical to climate models predictions. Models had predicted global warming would store heat first in the upper layer and stratify that layer. Diffusion would require hundreds to thousands of years, so it is not the mechanism. Trenberth, Rahmstorf, and others have argued the winds could drive heat below the surface. Indeed winds can drive heat downward in a layer that oceanographers call the “mixed-layer,” but the depth where wind mixing occurs is restricted to a layer roughly 10-200 meters thick over most of the tropical and mid-latitude belts. And those depths have been cooling slightly.
The only other possible mechanism that could reasonably explain heat transfer to the deep ocean was that the winds could tilt the thermocline. The thermocline delineates a rapid transition between the ocean’s warm upper layer and cold lower layer. As illustrated above in Figure 15, during a La Nina warm waters pile up in the western Pacific and deepens the thermocline. But the tilting Pacific thermocline typically does not dip below the 700 meters, if ever.8
Unfortunately the analysis by Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) does not report on changes in the layer between 700 meters and 2000 meters. However based on changes in heat content below 2000 meters (their Figure 16 below), deeper layers of the Pacific are practically devoid of any deep warming.
The one region transporting the greatest amount of heat into the deep oceans is the ice forming regions around Antarctica, especially the eastern Weddell Sea where annually sea ice has been expanding.12 Unlike the Arctic, the Antarctic is relatively insulated from intruding subtropical waters (discussed here) so any deep warming is mostly from heat descending from above with a small contribution from geothermal.
Counter‑intuitively greater sea ice production can deliver relatively warmer subsurface water to the ocean abyss. When oceans freeze, the salt is ejected to form a dense brine with a temperature that always hovers at the freezing point. Typically this unmodified water is called shelf water. Dense shelf water readily sinks to the bottom of the polar seas. However in transit to the bottom, shelf water must pass through layers of variously modified Warm Deep Water or Antarctic Circumpolar Water. Turbulent mixing also entrains some of the warmer water down to the abyss. Warm Deep Water typically comprises 62% of the mixed water that finally reaches the bottom. Any altered dynamic (such as increasing sea ice production, or circulation effects that entrain a greater proportion of Warm Deep Water), can redistribute more heat to the abyss.14. Due to the Antarctic Oscillation the warmer waters carried by the Antarctic Circumpolar Current have been observed to undulate southward bringing those waters closer to ice forming regions. Shelf waters have generally cooled and there has been no detectable warming of the Warm Deep Water core, so this region’s deep ocean warming is likely just re-distributing heat and not adding to the ocean heat content.
So it remains unclear if and how Trenberth’s “missing heat” has sunk to the deep ocean. The depiction of a dramatic rise in deep ocean heat is highly questionable, even though alarmists have flaunted it as proof of Co2’s power. As Dr. Wunsch had warned earlier, “Convenient assumptions should not be turned prematurely into ‘facts,’ nor uncertainties and ambiguities suppressed.” … “Anyone can write a model: the challenge is to demonstrate its accuracy and precision… Otherwise, the scientific debate is controlled by the most articulate, colorful, or adamant players.” 1
To reiterate, “the uncertainties remain too large to rationalize e.g., the apparent “pause” in warming.”
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The propensity to hide scientific ignorance by postulating physically implausible mechanisms operating deep in the oceans is endemic in “climate science.” Good to see real oceanographers exposing this scam.
The article says:
“Unfortunately the analysis by Wunsch and Heimbach (2014) does not report on changes in the layer between 700 meters and 2000 meters.”
The von Shuckmann and Le Traon paper cited in the table above (0.54 +/– 0.1 W/m^2) covered depths from 10m to 1500m. They are therefore covering from 700 metres to 1500 of the stratum in question. They also released a paper in 2009 which went to 2000m but was reliant on earlier and more scant Argo data. This earlier paper cited a warming corresponding to 0.77W/m^2 with similar error bars. Both these papers were all the more surprising in that earlier studies had shown cooling in the top 700m and so all the warming they found had to come from 700-1500m (2011) or 700-2000m (2009). This problem was discussed in the following paper in 2010 (Knox et al):
http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownload.aspx?paperID=3446
von Schuckmann has a website. On her Expert Developer Guidance page she says in reference to her 2011 paper:
“The 6-year trend is calculated using a weighted least square fit and accounts for 0.54±0.1 Wm-2 for the ocean surface, i.e. 0.38±0.1 Wm-2 for the Earth’s surface.”
Quote is from this page:
https://climatedataguide.ucar.edu/climate-data/ocean-heat-content-10-1500m-depth-based-argo
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So the radiative forcing should surely be cited as 0.38W/m^2. But this doesn’t account for geothermal flux (0.1W/m^2) so it should be reduced further to .28W/m^2. If the lower error bar is considered, it would bring it down to 0.18W/m^2. I think this is commensurate with the minimum (non alarmist) CO2 forcing scenario that most skeptics are happy to go along with.
Moreover, von Schuckmann states that the whole edifice rests on the assumption that there are no systemic biases in the Argo floats which is far from certain. The extent of that biasing will become apparent over several more years of data accumulation.
von Schuckmann’s main OHC page:
https://climatedataguide.ucar.edu/climate-data/ocean-heat-content-10-1500m-depth-based-argo
There are meany misconceptions about what can cause ocean temperature changes. To hopefully clear up a couple:
1) Cold water in the deep and middle ocean DOES rise, very slowly…in response to convective sinking of cold deep water (DW) and bottom water (BW) mainly originating around Antarctica. The same kind of thing happens on a clear day in the atmosphere, when mid-tropospheric air is forced to sink against the buoyancy force (because the lapse rate is sub-adiabatic) by upward convection in rainfall systems hundreds or thousands of miles away.
2) Deep water cooling and upper ocean warming can occur just through a decrease in vertical mixing, which is mostly mechanically driven by the wind and by tidally forced flows over bottom topography.
also, the geothermal heat flux is only one small term in the heat budget of the average ocean state…it can only cause deep ocean warming or cooling from the average state if the geothermal flux increase or decreases from its average value (~0.1 W/m2)
well, this paper makes Risbey et al look even more amateur & barrow driven
Well, yes, you are correct: The sub itself “may” only get to that deep of the water when it is outside of the continental shelf.
But … The subs work with sound waves – which DO bend and “dip” and “bounce” off of the bottom, off of deeper colder water near the bottom, and also off of warmer shallower water “above” the sub itself. Then again, the sound (both coming and going away from the submarine) literally bounces off of colder water far, far below the submarine and also off of intermediate layers of water that may be above or below the sub’s depth. To say ” it gets complicated” is the trivialize some of the first super-computer programming – which was coded specifically to figure out “how” sound waves propagate in deep water of varying temperatures, pressures, salinities, and reflectivities … Regardless, the USN (and Brit’s and Russians) know much much more about water properties down deep than they will ever tell. And that knowledge does NOT require a sub actually go to 15,000 or 20,000 feet below the surface. Only that the sub be able to listen to sounds coming from that deep below the surface.
The whole subject gets classified not because of the numbers themselves, but because knowing the numbers exactly lets one side track an unsuspecting enemy, or – lets one side hide from an unsuspecting enemy by using better physics. In WWII for example, we did NOT tell the Germans that their torpedoes were failing to explode. On the other hand, we (the USN) did NOT know that our torpedoes were failing in depth control, aiming control, and in fuse technology.
Lost a lot of lives because of our ignorance.
And out “trust” in technology that “the experts” Knew was perfect.
what’s happening in the 700-2000m layer?
Here is the elevator speech, the final paragraph regarding the research and before the future directions section.
“The globally integrated heat content changes involve small differences of the much larger regional changes. As existing estimates of the anthropogenic forcing are now about 0.5W/m2, the equivalent global ocean average temperature changes over 20 years are mostly slight compared to the shorter term temporal variations from numerous physical sources. Detailed attention must be paid to what might otherwise appear to be small errors in data calibration, and space-time sampling and model biases. Direct determination of changes in oceanic heat content over the last 20 years are not in conflict with estimates of the radiative forcing, but the uncertainties remain too large to rationalize e.g., the apparent “pause” in warming. The challenge is to develop observations so that future changes can be made with accuracies and precisions consistent with the conventional rule of thumb that they should be better than 10% of the expected signal.”
My thoughts:
1. To reduce it’s gist to a simple sentence: “So we are suggesting that we should be concerned with our measuring stick used to determine the size of a gnat’s ass hair.”
2. Now let me with equal swift sword play, dispense with the obligatory, “…[we are] not in conflict with estimates of the radiative forcing…” part. To translate into the proper and much longer thought, “We are genuflecting to thee oh Lord, the Anthropogenic Funding Source, Blessed Gravy Train of our existence to look humbly on our contrite efforts here to see that we are focused only proving your [tiny barely measurable] existence, not that you don’t exist at all. Amen”
Roy, somewhere in my memory is a paper that addressed the notion related to deep water upwelling. The paper postulated that, based on the age of abysmal ocean water, there was mixing occurring in more than the two polar regions. In other words, abysmal water was younger than expected under the scenario of upwelling occurring only at the poles. In order to explain the younger age, mixing was occurring in many places on the globe.
Maybe someone can answer this question. When icebergs that are freshwater in nature are released by glaciers into salt water they do not cool the deep water below them and melt slower in salt water then if they were in fresh water. Has there ever been a study paper done on this and the effects on sea surface temperatures and the time it takes for the fresh cooler water to mix with deeper warm waters.
The reason I ask is since mankind has been increasing salinity?? of ocean water from so much salt use is that having effect on sea surface temperatures at all. Also after the big melt in 2012 from Greenland and in the Arctic did that fresh melted water ever have time to mix to deeper water. I know during 2013 sea ice increased 60% so did that melt water have effect onbhow that new ice formed.
Just cautious.
@HenryP
HCO3- + H3O+ => CO2(gas) + water (liquid) + cold
So the Oceans is cooling ? and the reaction should be the other way around and there is part of the natural cause of the CO2 raise ?
“Alas, poor Trenberth, I knew him, Horatio, a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.
What a lovely, refreshing read, complete with caveats and uncertainties, and quite accessible to someone like me who hasn’t cracked open a science textbook in decades. Thanks for the analysis, Jim!
While the deep ocean below 2000 meters appears to be cooling based on these several thousand observations, …
… But there might be a question of what “time” this cooling originated in. It takes time for bottom water formation to spread across the ocean depth into the North Pacific from Antarctica or the central Atlantic from the Arctic Bottom Water.
This could easily be the deep water cooling trend originating in the Little Ice Age for example.
A bigger quandary it seems to me and something climate science would be unable to come to grips with given their inability to put time into the physics.
This must be one of the 3%er papers?
Mickey Reno July 21 5:59pm
Good one!
Eugene WR Gallun
@pamela gray
Isn’t the word you want abyssal rather than abysmal?
That’s true for fresh water. With salinity of seawater (~35 PSU) its density is highest just above freezing, at -1.9°C.
see: A Sea Water Equation of State Calculator
@rolf
Any (good) chemist knows that there are giga tons and giga tons of bi-carbonates dissolved in the oceans and that (any type of) warming would cause it to be released:
HCO3- + heat => CO2 (g) + OH-.
This is the actual reason we are alive today. Cause and effect, get it? There is a causal relationship. More warming naturally causes more CO2. It is not the other way around, as Al Gore alleges in his movie. Without warmth and carbon dioxide there would be nothing, really. To make that what we dearly want, i.e. more crops, more trees, lawns and animals and people, nature uses water and carbon dioxide and warmth, mostly. The fact that humanity adds a bit of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere is purely co-incidental, and appears to be beneficial, if you want to have a green world.
Anyway, my recent updates on my tables
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/2013/02/21/henrys-pool-tables-on-global-warmingcooling/
showed that there is no man made warming whatsoever. The climate is changing due to natural reasons. I also figured out why.
pokerguy says:
Another blow to the disingenuous warmists. One of these days, some bright young MSM journalist is going to come along and realize this CAGW nonsense is the greatest scientific mistake ( to be kind) in modern history. It’s a great story waiting only to be written.
Pokerguy, you’re being far too charitable to the warmists. A mistake is something that is done unintentionally. The warmist research is full of deliberate “mistakes”. Warmist climatology is no more science than astrology or scientology are.
Over at Chief IO we are having a discussion of Argo programming for those interested. See my comment at http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/broken-feature-hell/#comment-58811
I’m using the same language in my work:
http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/
Geothermal warming is in fact only near the ocean ridges, where the basalt crust is exuded as the ocean plates part tectonically. The waters in contact with the ocean floor average 0-2C because the ocean floor steadily cools to that temperature and the crust shrinks thermally deepening the waters from 2.5Km at the ridges to 5Km(average) elsewhere. Thermal conduction is very poor for basalt so little heat gets into the waters.
Wunsch and Heimbach (2013)2 wrote, “clear warnings have appeared in the literature—that spurious trends and values are artifacts of changing observation systems (see, e.g., Elliott and Gaffen, 1991; Marshall et al., 2002; Thompson et al., 2008)
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such as grafting thermometer data to tree ring proxies?
Obviously OHC is the most important metric in climate science, but unfortunately, prior to ARGO there is no reliable data,.
Even ARGO has issues, notably its sparse sampling coverage. In addition, it is not clear whether ARGO data is biased (it was adjusted downwards shortly after coming on stream because it was not showing that the oceans were warming) and, being free floating, the buoys get carried along in currents, and currents are temperature anomalies and this could in itself lead to bias. proper evaluation studies have yet to be made.
So what we have is one data set of very short duration, which may have issues of bias and the coverage of which is very sparse in relation to the vast volume of the ocean. That is not much to base an assessment and from which to extrapolate anything meaningful.
I am not at all convinced that we have a proper handle on the energy budget of the ocean, and therefore it is difficult to say “Direct determination of changes in oceanic heat content over the last 20 years are not in conflict with estimates of the radiative forcing…,”
This begs an issue, what are the radiative forcings, and where are they? What are these estimates?
I raise this point since Is a watt of energy the same, no matter where that watt of energy is inputted, or no matter where it lies?
As I see matters there is an issue regarding the absorption of DWLWIR, which is not present in the absorption of solar. This is that due to the omnidirectional nature of DWLWIR about 80% of all DWLWIR is absorbed within just 4 MICRONS of the sea surface. That is a huge amount of energy being inputted into a very small volume of water, and unless that energy can, in some way, be diluted and dissipated to depth at a rate quicker than the rate at which evaporation would be drivenn by that energy, there would be vasts amounts of ocean evaporation which we are not observing.
The problem is that there is no obvious process that can dissipate that energy to depth at a speed quicker than it would drive evaporation; It cannot be by conduction since the surface temperature is lower than the top few millimemetres and hance the energy flux at the very top of the ocean (the top few micron layer) is upwards not downwards. It cannot be by ocean over-turning since that is a slow mechamical process, and one which may largely be limited to diurnal activity. So how is this vast energy dissipated quickly enough?
This issue does not arise with solar since solar irradiance is not absorbed within the top few micron layer. At most only 2 or 3% of solar is absorbed in the first 4 microns of the oceans. By contrast Solar is predominantly being absorbed within the first metre (or so) of the oceans. Thus the energy from solar is absorbed in a very large volume of water and is therefore dissipated accordingly.
If you work out seperately the Solar energy, and the DWLWIR energy being absorbed by water not per sq metre, but instead per cubic micron, you will see the difference.
Becausse Solar is absorbed at depth into a very large volume, it does not boil off the ocean but rather gently heats it.
On the other hand, if DWLWIR is absorbed by the oceans and goes towards heating the ocean, because of the optical absorption characterics of LWIR in water all that energy is concentrated in just a few microns and there is so much energy in those few microns that copious evaporation would occur.
The warmists need to do a radiative balance equation not for the ocean as a whole, but rather for the layers of the ocean, bit by bit, eg., the top few microns, the top few millimetres, the top metre, the next few metres, the mid ocean, the deep ocean, the bottom ocean. That would tell a very interesting story, and would reveal a potential problem with the K&T energy budget. .,
Leo Smith says: July 21, 2014 at 7:36 pm
@pamela gray
“Isn’t the word you want abyssal rather than abysmal?”
Why yes. Apparently my ‘similar’ words spelling list needs a polish as it is rather abysmal at the moment.