Bastardi: 'potential nightmare.. a tropical cyclone coming at the outer banks on the July 4 weekend'

UPDATE: Latest GFDL model output suggests Bastardi could be right, see below.

UPDATE2: New information from Bastardi here shows 4th of July nightmare is shaping up to be true.

The Case for Rapid Development Feedback of a Potential Tropical Storm: Arthur.

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NASA Satellite image of the disturbance off the east coast of Florida at 8:40am.

Guest essay by Joe Bastardi, WeatherBell Analytics.

In the old days, one never had to worry about anything but hitting the forecast.  But times have changed. With an agenda out there to take any weather event that attracts attention and turn into into a reason that an AGW driven atmospheric apocalypse is upon us, one has to make sure the physical grounds are stated before hand for why the event can occur.

We are faced with a potential nightmare.. a tropical cyclone coming at the outer banks on the July 4 weekend. I already have this as an 80 knot storm by July 4th, right on top of the North Carolina coast. That represents the mid ground of a fear this can be stronger. The post Sunday on Weatherbell.com on this outlined why.  To refresh your memory, a look at the ECMWF 200 mb pattern Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, indicates why this can deepen so much, and as a matter of fact is in a prime area to do so.

The Wed AM outflow channel is developing to the northwest,  with  north winds on the east side. The storm position is marked by the X on the map below:

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Thursday morning:

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Finally,  Friday morning…Even here it is still in the “upward motion” quadrant of the jet to the north (right  front entrance) though by this time the best conditions start to fade. But by this time the center has battered the outer banks.

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The seawater, like the end game of the last AMO in the 1950s, is very warm along the east coast.

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from: http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/anomwnc.gif

Again this warm seawater is a product of the natural cyclical function of the AMO in its mature stage.

You can read about that here: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/26136

As I posted on it, and the Weatherbell.com preseason forecast outlined our great concern about in close development/intensification this season, a product of the overall climatic pattern we are in (again similar to the 1950s).

Storms coming to the coast in their intensification stage will often use frictional effects to feedback and intensify. A large powerful , mature hurricane in the same position might weaken, its expanse  and interaction with the trough  causing an extensive area of rain cooled air to be pulled in to the storm. But a smaller storm may actually intensify, since it is not yet large enough to pull in the rain cooled air and the frictional affects, may tighten the bands up.  The large scale pattern that may weaken a major storm, may be conducive to deepening a smaller one.

Look at it this way.  If you have 2 people, one used to 3000 calories a day, one used to 1000 calories and they sit down to a  2000 calorie meal every day for a week, the larger person would lose weight, the lighter gain weight.  The common thread of this is rarely recognized in storms.  But the smaller the storm, the better the chance it can deepen. Think of Katrina approaching Florida as a small storm with ideal conditions for development.

She deepened right to the coast. But when she got very large, a cat 5, in the same place the much smaller Camille in 1969 was a cat 5, she started to weaken, while Camille maintained the core winds right to the coast.  My point here being that what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander, and this storm has alot going for it.

Lets take a similar example:  Hurricane Alex in 2004 which battered the outer banks and was worse than the forecast from official sources had,  with wind gusts over 115 mph reported.

The track of Alex in 2004:

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Alex exploded in 42 hours from a  35 kt minimal TS  to  85 kt storm. Notice the similar 200 mb pattern:

00z  Aug 2  2004

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00a Aug  3 2004

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00z  Aug  4,2004

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By the way, a storm in the article above, Gerda in 1969, also “exploded” up the east coast in spite of interaction with an approaching trough. A first, with smaller storms, these troughs help ventilate the storms in the northwest quad. The smaller the storm, the tougher the forecast situation.

In addition, El Niño seasons are known for in-close deepeners. The strongest May storm on record in 1951 was Able, in a warm ENSO.  Audrey was  the strongest storm on record in June, 1957. Interestingly enough, in El Niño seasons, many of the first storms are strong ( more examples Betsy, 1965,  Alicia 1983,  Andrew was coming off the 91-92 El Niño and 2004 was an El Niño season, the year of the aforementioned Alex!

But if this does explode (again we have been on top of this…) the first alert for the HURRICANE  threat on the outer banks to clients, then public followers, was Saturday), it has nothing to do with .04% of the atmosphere. It has  everything to do with the physical reality of the pattern,  which we have seen before. Since we see a similar set up, we have to be on guard against a similar event.

There is nothing mystical or magical about it. That it would grab headlines of a major resort area on arguably the biggest summer holiday of the season, means the threat  of spinning it  for an agenda is there. I cherish the day when  the only kind of spinning we have to deal with is what the atmosphere  does, not what people using the atmosphere for their agenda spin it for.

There is a why before the what in a case like this if it does deepen, and it has nothing to do with global warming/climate change/AGW.

UPDATE: Latest GFDL model shows the speed, position, and central pressure forecasts for Friday, July 4th.

GFDL 2014-07-01 at 8.49.44 AM

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July 1, 2014 5:45 pm

Bruce.
It’s not a comparison.
Think harder.

July 1, 2014 5:47 pm

Dbstealy yes there is evidence.

July 1, 2014 6:45 pm

Steven Mosher says:
…yes there is evidence.
Well, can you post it?
As I keep asking: please provide testable, measurable scientific evidence quantifying the fraction of a degree rise in global T caused by human CO2 emissions. Thanks.

Bill H
July 1, 2014 7:56 pm

dbstealey says:
July 1, 2014 at 6:45 pm
Steven Mosher says:
…yes there is evidence.
Well, can you post it?
As I keep asking: please provide testable, measurable scientific evidence quantifying the fraction of a degree rise in global T caused by human CO2 emissions. Thanks.
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You would first have to determine what is actually mans contribution. Warming Oceans tend to release massive amounts of CO2 so they are still clueless as to what is actually mans contribution.
Next they would have to identify an actual degree of forcing. To date, none of the models are even close to correct (way to high) and reality is showing that CO2 may not even be a consideration. The Null hypothesis requires a physical change be noted by the input of single items to determine their effect. If no change is noted then the hypothesis is incorrect as the item added had no effect. .
We’ve been adding CO2 for decades and yet the rate of natural variation rise subtracted from the current rate of rise = 0. Thus CO2’s influence is 0.0

Bill H
July 1, 2014 8:12 pm

The Null hypothesis requires a physical change be noted AFTER the input of single items to determine their effect.
Correction to my statement above.
As the current non-warming has failed to increase in the temp despite the increase of CO2 it could be said that CO2 has a net negative impact.

Christopher T Bowen
July 1, 2014 11:31 pm

One of the worst WRITTEN articles I have ever seen. Have to go down 5 paragraphs to find out WHERE the author says it’s gonna hit. Man o man. Learn how to write!

July 2, 2014 1:52 am

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July 2, 2014 8:22 am

[snip – commenter is advertising his book sale -mod]

bigwalt2990
July 2, 2014 8:40 am

It’s painfully obvious…that it’s all Ohio’s fault…

July 2, 2014 11:24 am

People must realize that our earth is changing and preparing for more catastrophic events that precedes the millennial era. Soon, there will be a world-wide earth quake that will cause even more loss of lives and sorrow. Store some food and get closer to God.

ren
July 2, 2014 1:14 pm
July 2, 2014 3:19 pm

bigwalt2990 says:
July 2, 2014 at 8:40 am
It’s painfully obvious…that it’s all Ohio’s fault…

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Nah. It was “That Team Up North”. 😎
There are “Climate Models” and there are “Weather Models”.
A big difference is that the weather ones adjust as more real time information comes in. The climate ones do not.
Another difference is that a good meteorologist, such as Joe Bastardi, adds honest, intelligent and intuitive human input to what the model might be telling him. If he’s wrong, we’ll know tomorrow. If he’s wrong often enough, he may not have a job the next day.
If the CAGW climateorolgist are wrong, we’ll never know in our lifetime….but we’ll pay for it today.

ren
July 2, 2014 10:46 pm

Arthur connects to the jet stream. At sea, the wind than 100 km / h.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#2014/07/06/0300Z/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-73.86,36.80,963

ren
July 2, 2014 10:54 pm
July 2, 2014 11:57 pm

Gunga Din says:
July 2, 2014 at 3:19 pm
If the CAGW climateorolgist are wrong, we’ll never know in our lifetime….but we’ll pay for it today.
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and tomorrow, and for many years to come.

ren
July 3, 2014 8:27 am
ren
July 3, 2014 8:32 am
ren
July 3, 2014 8:50 am
Mike
July 3, 2014 1:55 pm

Looks Like Joe B was right

dp
July 4, 2014 7:07 am

Christopher T Bowen says:

One of the worst WRITTEN articles I have ever seen. Have to go down 5 paragraphs to find out WHERE the author says it’s gonna hit. Man o man. Learn how to write!

Second paragraph, Joe B says:

We are faced with a potential nightmare.. a tropical cyclone coming at the outer banks on the July 4 weekend.

Joe would probably appreciate your apology and you should probably consider a remedial reading course for yourself.

July 4, 2014 10:31 am

@Glassman,
You mean, “Climatologists are like Evolutionists: anyone who casts doubt on their dogma is branded anti-science.”