Guest essay by Caleb Shaw
One sign of healthy skepticism is that you take things with a grain of salt, but there is a problem inherent in having this attitude, namely “disrespect.” We are suppose to respect our elders and teachers, and I can’t say my skepticism has always led to such respect.
For example, as a teenager in the late 1960’s I embraced the Jack Weinberg quote, “Don’t trust anyone over thirty,” in a way that seriously thwarted learning from my elders. To be blunt, the reason I distrusted elders was because I wanted to break the law, and they’d put me in jail if they knew what I was up to. (I wish I could say I was breaking rules for some noble cause, such as pacifism, but that would be dishonest.)
Basically I wanted to do things elders would disapprove of, and didn’t want to hear elders rebuke me for doing things that they claimed were bad for me. Therefore, instead of learning from elders, I learned the hard way that many of the things they said were bad for me were, in fact, bad.
Apparently, if I was going to be skeptical, I should have been more skeptical of the statement, “Don’t trust anyone over thirty,” however it didn’t seem possible I’d ever be so old. That particular skepticism didn’t sink in until my thirtieth birthday approached, and I looked in the mirror and thought to myself, “Oh Lord, I’m about to be one of those people you can’t trust.”
Now that I’m over sixty I thoroughly approve of respecting elders. In fact I have revised the Weinberg quote, and it now goes, “Don’t trust anyone under sixty.” After a significant pause I add, “And I wouldn’t trust those over sixty either.” After a second significant pause I conclude, “For that matter, I wouldn’t trust myself.”
The simple fact of the matter is that humans aren’t perfect. (Some say there are such things as Perfect Masters, but I can’t claim I’ve ever met one on the street.) Sooner or later everyone I’ve met, including myself, makes a mistake, and, by making that mistake they, in some way, shape or form, break the trust. Even a minor mistake, such as being one minute late for an appointment, breaks the trust. Even if you have a thousand excuses, you failed to keep your word. Therefore it is quite true to state that no one can be trusted.
Life would be a complete drag if I took human imperfection to heart, and walked about scowling at everyone. Another attribute of humans is that, just as you can’t trust them to do right, you can’t trust them to do wrong, either. At times the most unlikely people pull off amazing deeds of kindness, strength and heroism. Humans are a lot like the weather in this respect: You can’t forecast them with 100% certainty.
Though you can’t trust humans to be perfect, you can develop a form of government that takes imperfection into account, and, through a system of checks and balances, makes it possible to make, recognize, recover-from and forgive mistakes. In like manner you can create scientific disciplines that allow one to make, recognize, recover-from and forgive mistakes. In fact all areas of life, right down to a game of darts, can be governed in a way that allows one to make, recognize, recover-from and forgive mistakes. All people need to do is accept a system of rules.
This was precisely what I refused to do, as an ignorant, young jerk. People much smarter than I had worked long and hard to create various systems that effectively deal with the fact humans are prone to making mistakes, but their systems involved rules, and I didn’t like rules. I would find a better way, an “alternative lifestyle.” Rules didn’t seem to be the same as freedom, and I wanted to be free, unaware (to a ridiculous degree) that one thing I’d never be free from was making mistakes. Then, when my mistakes became apparent, I, in the spirit of a true do-it-yourselfer, set out to reinvent the wheel. Because I was very lucky, my mistakes didn’t kill me, and I eventually arrived at a solution that looked very much like a wheel.
Now I sit back and wonder, “What in God’s name was I thinking?” I wasted decades reinventing a wheel that teachers were trying to give me for free. What made me such a stupid rebel? What a mistake!
I suppose I could play the blame-game, and say someone else made a mistake that led to mine. America is a nation founded upon rebellion, and Americans are such rebels that even the motto on their money states you can’t trust humans. It was therefore my homeland that put rebellion in my blood.
Or I could blame women, (especially schoolmarms), because it was only when women got the vote that drinking beer became unconstitutional. Prohibition didn’t merely engender a disrespect for the law, but even for the Constitution our forefathers died for, yet, as a young boy, I could hear old-timers laugh about how they brewed beer in the basement, blithely unaware they were encouraging disrespect for the Constitution.
Or they laughed about how they drove 1000 miles in ten hours, though the speed limit signs said sixty-five.
On the fourth of July everyone set off fireworks in my Massachusetts neighborhood, though fireworks were illegal. Does that not celebrate independence from the Law? Is it not in the very nature of Americans to disobey elders, whether they be King George or one’s schoolmarm? It isn’t my fault! I am not to blame for the fact I wasted decades reinventing the wheel!
The blame-game may be fun, but it cannot pull you out of quicksand. At some point it simply doesn’t matter how you wound up to your neck. Getting out of the mess becomes the focus. However, providing you survive, it is a healthy intellectual exercise to look back and ponder the mistakes that got you into quicksand. Even if it doesn’t get you out of the ooze, it might help you to avoid jumping back in. It is in this spirit that I would like to cause trouble, by pointing the blame-game finger at the schoolmarms.
I think I can say, with a high degree of probability, that it is a mistake for schoolmarms to put boys (such as I once was) in rows of desks, and expect the boys to sit still. Boys squirm. Boys kick. Boys dream out the window, dip pigtails in inkwells, shoot spitballs, and fail to memorize six words of Shakespeare even while writing twenty lines of rhyming doggerel mocking schoolmarms, (with hilarious cartoon illustrations.) You are just begging for disaster if you fail to recognize boys will be boys. You will turn a boy who might have been law-abiding into a law-breaker. Boys, by their very nature, need to run wild, and if you squelch this impulse you will have hell to pay.
(I’ve talked with schoolmarms who know this, for they have seen that boys sit most still and learn most right after recess, and right after summer vacation, and squirm worst and learn next to nothing just before recess, and when spring is in the air. However, being schoolmarms and not boys, they don’t even whimper when their government and/or teachers-union urge recesses and summer vacations be banned “so boys may learn more.”)
I actually think it isn’t a schoolmarm’s duty to discipline boys. That job is the father’s. If I wrote the laws, then, rather than a bad boy being expelled to the principle’s office, the boy would be sent by taxi to the father’s workplace. If the Dad was in jail, send the kid there. That would get men’s attention darn fast.
That never happened when I was little. I suppose I should point the blame-game finger at Dads, for when I was young they put widgets ahead of family, and ran away to the rush-hour each day-break, leaving their poor, defenseless sons in the quicksand of classrooms, and at the mercy of schoolmarms.
Due to a weird twist of fate, I grew up dead center in a wormhole in the space-time continuum, wherein I escaped the wrath of schoolmarms when it was expressed by caning, and escaped the wrath of schoolmarms as it is now expressed by drugging. When I made chaos out of their quiet classrooms, all I faced was the wrath of schoolmarms expressed by words.
Much of my skill with the use of the English language was absorbed from schoolmarm’s tongue-lashings. In order to keep order in classrooms of twenty to thirty Baby Boom rebels, they had to exploit adroit sarcasm and cynical sneering, and employ twists of dubious logic and clubbing condemnation. Their wit could be superb and set the entire class laughing, but when you are a little boy and the whole class is laughing at you, you do not think of witty rebuttals as much as you think of getting some sort of completely unholy and uncivilized revenge. An abscess of resentment brewed in me. Schoolmarms may have kept me quelled, when I was small and helpless, but when my hormones hit and I swiftly loomed taller than they, all my study of their use of English came back to haunt them.
They had created a monster. True, Frankenstein is not usually portrayed as jovial, nor as being able to out-argue the doctor who bolted in his brains, but reality is often even stranger than a monster movie. I became an outlaw, but one of the most harmless outlaws imaginable. Initially my sinister activities involved dreaming out windows, wandering into the classroom after the bell, or shrugging when asked where my homework was. It was when I stopped shrugging, and started answering the sarcastic questions, that I think I set some sort of modern record for the most after-school detentions ever received for being cheerful.
Detentions were a half-hour spent sitting in a classroom after school, and were a bad idea when boys are bursting with energy. I could only serve four detentions a day, because the last bus left at four-thirty, and for a time it looked like I might not graduate due to not-having-served the amazing numbers of detentions I was amassing. It was at this point an uneasy truce descended. Likely the teachers dreaded the prospect of another year with me, though perhaps the teachers were also embarrassed by the prospect of failing a student who was going to win the award for creative writing, and not failing him because of his grades, but rather because he cheerfully answered their sarcastic questions. In any case they stopped being sarcastic, which meant I had won.
It was at this point, at my moment of victory, that I fell flat on my face. The culprit was drugs, but I’ll talk of that later. For now I want to remain on the topic of respecting elders.
Schoolmarms did teach me a sort of respect for elders, but it was not the sort of respect that leads to one rushing to elders, desiring their attention like a rock-star’s fan desires the star’s autograph. Instead my primary goal in school became to avoid the attention of schoolmarms. They were the Gestapo, and I was the French Resistance. My respect was the sort of loathing respect one has for a bully. After the hormones hit and I won my victory I became like the Norwegian Resistance, and schoolmarms became like the trembling Quislings after the Gestapo had fled Norway.
Now I look back across a half century and wonder: What was it that made them the bad-guy Nazis, and me the good-guy? Why didn’t they seem like millionaires, loaded with knowledge, as I myself was a mere beggar, with the empty pockets of ignorance? Schoolmarms were offering me a free hand-out. What was I fleeing?
I think the answer lies in the single, dreaded word, “Drill.”
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“Communism and socialism have been immense problems. Drugs had little to do with either.”
The destruction of the middle class is the end goal for the communists and socialists, and fscsts. It may be carried out economically. But it is known that the values of thrift, home ownership, lasting marriages, self-control, literacy, and tradition are important to the continued existence of the middle class. Injecting drugs and sexual immorality into all aspects of life is also destroying the middle class.
There are lots of good comments, and I wish I could respond to all of them, but my youngest son is coming home from college tonight, and I’m eager to see him.
There are lots of examples in the comments of bad teachers, and I too had my share. But there were also some good ones I didn’t chose to heed. One tried to impress upon me the importance of spelling words correctly. She had no idea “Spell Check” would be invented, and I tell you, had not that wonderful gadget appeared none of you could have gotten through the first five paragraphs of my writing.
Do they even teach grammar any more? Does anyone see my mistake in the first paragraph?
I had an aversion to “drill,” which is the subject of Part Two of this series of thoughts.
Thanks to all who add to my thinking. Many minds makes might.
Sounds like my first 30 years, except, obviously, the award for creative writing. Although I still rebel against conformity quite often. Nice essay, Anthony.
Scientists, used car salesmen and politicians deserve an equal amount of respect…did you say trust? But, of course I TRUST used car salesmen. Politicians and scientists?… Not so much.
Do they even teach grammar any more? Does anyone see my mistake in the first paragraph?
I suspect the missing “d” is a typo?
No, they don’t each grammar much, anymore, I suppose. And no one seems to be aware of the proper use of commas. (But that gives me an advantage. Mom was a copy editor.)
At 50ish, coming off the course after having been destroyed by a 70ish by about 15 strokes, he taught me a valuable lesson: 1: “Be happy you’re still on this side of the grass.” 2: “No matter how bad you played today, there are 1,300,000,000 Chinese who don’t give a $hit.”
Lesson learned.
My handicap dropped by 4 strokes in two months.
I was raised on a smallish ranch in the far NE corner of Oregon. That county still does not have a stoplight anywhere in the entire county. So I missed out on all the modern rebellion. Some kids turned to cigs and beer but that was about it. Life was and is still hard in the county and young teens still die from doing dangerous things or taking their own life. But few ever blame someone other than their own choices. There was no anti-establishment. Not even antidisestablishmentarianism. Most kids tolerated school because at least they weren’t doing chores. There were chores, sneaking out with a cig or a beer or the car, school, and…and…I guess that was it.
To this day I don’t know which is harder on kids. The city life or hardtack.
Pamela Gray: Thanks for your comment.
The countercultural Boomers had an outsized influence then and still do, but the fact is that they weren’t and aren’t the majority of Boomers.
Zeke’s “Boomers…Drugs…Evil” mantra is on par with the idea many have that all Californians are from the Bay Area or Los Angeles. Given media coverage, that’s an understandable impression, but it’s just not so.
When I was at school around 13 my first boyfriend (well we liked each other) told me, he wouldn’t have a girlfriend smarter than him. My first husband told me, ‘Who wants an intelligent wife.” and my second husband told me in a drunken rage, “I don’t want a wife who is better educated than me, (when I enrolled externally at UNE). And both said I couldn’t write, creatively, but the reason hubby no.2 gave was ‘I bet she has a best seller and goes to Hollywood to run away with Robert Redford. (As if?) So I made it my passion to educate myself and write books, one that has been published. A BA, GCA, Diploma and Certs in Horticulture and Organic Agriculture. But I had a chance to go the University in my fifth year, but my mother said, ‘That’s a waste of time, she’ll be snapped up for marriage instead.’ And I was at 20.
So as they said, Revenge is best served cold.’ So – I must say, I missed the sexy 60s as I was living in Cyprus until 1963 then married a RAF officer who became a captain on the V Force. And later joined QANTAS. Protected from societies hippies and drugs. But I do resent my ex-husbands for various reasons, but have learned to live with it, and concentrate on supporting my two sons, whose father’s would rather not know.
Caleb: Well, if you’re telling your individual story as a callow youth who rebelled against teachers because of the siren call of disapproved pleasures and your flight from drill, that’s fine by me.
However, it’s not my story nor that of my friends who were part of the counterculture.
I’m still curious to know how you would choose which elders to trust and respect.
When I was young I had already learned that my elders did not speak with one voice, a fair amount of what I heard from them seemed crazy, wrong, mean, or dishonest, and I was stuck with having to pick and choose on my own.
Zeke says: (June 27, 2014 at 1:42 pm ):
People are not profoundly affected by the presence of a lot of classmates, co-workers, and other social relationships.
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Relationships amongst peers have a more profound impact on developing teen-aged minds than do relationships amongst kin. This is why advertising gurus never use parent figures to sell kids the latest gadget, toy or fashion item. Rebellion against parents is a natural instinct that social engineers (in advertising, media and government, etc) often exploit to undermine the decisions & guidance of elders. For example, the advertising slogan for an Australia car in the 80s boasted: “Holden Camira: Your mother will hate it.”
Rebellion and respect for peers is part of the process of leaving the nest. It stems from youthful recognition that your peers, and not your parents, will be around to inherit the Earth. If you are an identity-hungry teen that sees not much hope for inheritance, “rebel” itself can be an attractive identity to build. That’s probably why elder siblings, tending to benefit most from the status-quo in family hierarchies, also tend to become “conservatives,” while later siblings who tend get the “hand-me-downs,” are more likely to become “liberals.”
RE: Pamela Gray and others:
I apologize in advance, for surely my sense of humor will be in some ways grating to you, especially my irreverent attitude towards “schoolmarms.” However little I have to say will be what you don’t already know. I am not trying to preach to the choir.
I should also say that you were fortunate to escape the seduction of the sex-and-drugs nonsense. Furthermore, the pragmatic backbone of America, people who either escaped because they were outside the nonsense, or who found the nonsense repulsive and not seductive at all, were the people who helped me pull out of my personal nosedive. I owe a debt of gratitude towards the very people I once tended to sneer at as being “square.”
I’m not sure country folk are as able to escape the sex-and-drugs nonsense any more, as the music industry has polluted country music and Hollywood is what Hollywood is. Despite obvious examples of the Hollywood lifestyle leading to ruin and death among their own population, they never seem to learn.
Therefore it seems important to say what I went through, even though a lot of it was stupid nonsense, for I did learn, and can even arrive at soft-science conclusions that directly contradict the soft-science generally accepted.
I utilize my sense of humor while doing so because the alternative is tears. However please do not take my humor wrong, or think I advocate being stupid, or put down people who were not as stupid as I.
RE: huxley says:
June 27, 2014 at 8:54 pm
“….I’m still curious to know how you would choose which elders to trust and respect.”
That’s the Big Question, isn’t it? Remove the two words “which elders” from the above sentence, and put in the word “what,” and perhaps it in some ways describes the purpose of life.
I think each person has their own criteria of Truth and Beauty, and unique perspectives and a unique path. It behooves a free country to allow as much freedom as possible, so that people can follow their own stars. However there need to be laws to keep one person’s path from trampling another person’s toes, and that is where things get complicated.
A lot of the complication is avoided if people simply follow the Golden Rule. Don’t trample toes because you wouldn’t like having your toes trampled. Don’t dominate others because you wouldn’t like being dominated. Serve others because you would like being served.
This humbleness isn’t taught as much as it should be taught, and some of what is taught seems bound to raise a generation of megalomaniacs. The result is that everyone gets their toes stomped on. Perhaps this truth is starting to sink in. All sorts of different people, with unique perspectives and on different paths, may be starting to mutter, “Man! Do my toes ever hurt!”
Sad to say, but sometimes people only turn to spiritual behavior because the alternative hurts terribly. Many, (if not most,) conversions occur not in churches but in the gutter. Right now the entire planet, in a manner of speaking, is in the gutter. They say it is darkest just before dawn, so perhaps the entire planet is on the verge of a conversion. People are tired of saying, “That’s just the way the world is,” and are getting downright sick of it.
To return to your original question, “which teachers should we trust,” I think we don’t truly know until we test out what they’ve taught. As students, we are in a very vulnerable position. For this reason teachers should stick to teaching what they are hired to teach. Math teachers should teach math. English teachers shouldn’t pretend to be philosophy majors. Social Science should be abolished, and we should go back to studying the dull dates and places of History, and the words of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
If children are not to learn a moral code to live by from parents or in Sunday School, it should be in a class called, “A Moral Code To Live By.” The entire business of attempting to sneak morality in between the lines strikes me as being slightly dishonest. A teacher’s moral standards come across clearly enough through their demeanor and through how they treat the ignorant.
Once things are clearly stated, then kids need to either suffer being taught and exposed to drill, or be removed from the classroom, especially if they are at all disruptive. Which is a Segway to my thoughts about “Drill.”
I think there is a confusion between “respect” and “polite and considerate” here. It can be easy to develop a lack of respect for someone who has demonstrated their incompetence, but not respecting someone is no excuse for being rude and insulting.
The Gift
You have given me a gift recently. $100,000.00 dollars for free!
Thank you! However I’m thinking you did not actually intend to give it.
I’m a farmer and the payment came from the SURE federal disaster program.
The easy thing to do would be living out my life anonymously on my farm.
This time I have resolved to return the money. The following is why.
First, I want to explain why people participate in many of the governments programs.
To most the answer requires no thought it’s free money! The true answer can be described in one word, competition.
I’ll give you an example. Let’s say you and I are farmers, neighbors and friends.
Our children go to the same school we may even attend the same church.
Now a piece of land comes up for rent at auction. We both would like to rent it. So
we both compete in the auction. Now you have recently stopped participating in the federal farm program because you are opposed to it.
I participate and collect $10 per acre in doing so.
Who will be more competitive at the auction? You or I?
Moreover what will you do if I call your existing land lords and offer them $10 per acre more for the land you are currently farming?
The point is we are compelled to participate because of the need to be competitive.
Or more simply we participate because our neighbor does. This is what happens when
the government injects money into a market. Human nature is such that if you see a person walking down the street with a fist full of cash,
the first question you will ask them after perhaps “are you crazy”? Is “where did you get that”?
I want to point out the insidious nature and the motivated self interest of government prodded by industry to inject public money into the free market.
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I believe that many of the politicians and the people they represent are good kind people who genuinely believe that government programs,
public money can and should be used to make society more fair and equitable a noble idea I will come back to.
The Gift of $100,000.00 is nice but it pales in comparison to other gifts I have been given. First my life itself was a gift.
Second the opportunity to have my nature, habit, talent and luck determine my success within a just and moral society called The United States of America.
These gifts are worth far more than a stack of $100 dollar bills.
The second gift is one we all can give. I for one did not want to reach the end of my life when my strength is gone and look back with regret
not having done something to pass on the gift I was given. “The opportunity to have your nature, habit, talent and luck determine your success within a just and moral society.”
Our nation is not perfectly just or perfectly moral but it is far more just and moral than many would have you believe.
We all fail at one time or another to one degree or another that is what forgiveness is for.
A word about forgiveness. You should always forgive, for the sake of your own life and happiness. However that does not necessarily mean you must go back for more of the same treatment.
Therein lye’s the difference between going to a free competitive market for your needs or a government office. There is at minimum an equal chance of being mistreated at either place because both are run by people. However if you are mistreated by an individual or private business at the very least you do not have to do business there again you have options.
What are your options when the government or other monopoly threatens you or mistreats you?
Returning to the vision, or idea of a fair and equitable world through government a noble idea often promoted by fanning the flames of greed, jealousy and fear that burn within each of us.
Listen and you will hear those tools being used.
Nothing good will ever come from the use of those tools but you can not deny their effectiveness. They are promising to build something better something grand later.
Of course when it comes time to perform and it fails they will blame you.
Accepting your own luck making and taking responsibility for your own decisions that is as close to fair as you will ever get. Using your time and your strength to help
people who are struggling is as close to prefect as you will ever get.
I want to add my thoughts about debt since you borrowed much of the $100,000.00 you gave me. Debt should be thought of and is a useful tool just like a hammer. Say a 20 ounce claw hammer. We now have a 48 pound sledge hammer a once useful tool has become a burden.
If the idea that is the United States is to survive then we must participate vigorously and do so with an attitude of altruism or selflessness.
I am asking in exchange for returning some of your money that you listen carefully to those who speak and are in positions of power and influence. Ask yourself if they are fanning the flames of greed, jealousy and fear. If so reject them offering your faith, hope and optimism in alternative.
It’s our responsibility as citizens to pass on the gift.
Another excellent essay from Caleb Shaw. Thank you. I await parts 2-5.
Forget rules, I’m going with standards.
Something to live up to, not follow.
Thanks to WUWT for the interesting articles and comments.
Khwarizmi says:
June 27, 2014 at 9:47 pm “Relationships amongst peers have a more profound impact on developing teen-aged minds than do relationships amongst kin. This is why advertising gurus never use parent figures to sell kids the latest gadget, toy or fashion item. Rebellion against parents is a natural instinct that social engineers (in advertising, media and government, etc) often exploit to undermine the decisions & guidance of elders. For example, the advertising slogan for an Australia car in the 80s boasted: “Holden Camira: Your mother will hate it.””
Okay, peer pressure and work relationships are important and we all get caught up into fashion whirlwinds. What I said was, “We are shaped by the very few close relationships we have in life. These relationships help to structure and organize the brain in early life, and this profound restructuring of the brain can happen [even] into the senior years, through marriage. And if these relationships are not present, the brain cannot organize itself in a meaningful, coherent way. Intelligence is supported most of all by loving relationships.”
What this means is that the actual organization of the brain is permanently wired by the closest bonds we have, and is reliant on the timing of the exposure to the stimuli also. Here is one example of the wiring of the brain – as opposed to the merely outward behaviour which peer pressure elicits – taking place in people who are learning American Sign Language: http://zekeunlimited.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/communication-and-mind-formation/
Another example of the presence or absence and timing of brain development includes the ability to express simple affection. If a youngster has a dismissive or inconsistent parent, who does not make eye contact or does so only in unpredictable ways, the young child does not associate eye contact and hugs with closeness, and has great difficulty expressing these later in life. So I am talking about brain differentiation, and the areas of the brain devoted to certain activities, as opposed to passing crazes.
Intelligence then would be defined as the ability to discriminate between good and bad group behaviour, and also the ability to think of an outcome you want, and take steps to achieve that outcome.
Khwarizmi says:
June 27, 2014 at 9:47 pm “Rebellion against parents is a natural instinct that social engineers (in advertising, media and government, etc) often exploit to undermine the decisions & guidance of elders. For example, the advertising slogan for an Australia car in the 80s boasted: “Holden Camira: Your mother will hate it.””
You are right. There is absolutely no other way to explain that car.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Holden+Camira:+Your+mother+will+hate+it&client=firefox-a&hs=r3K&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=rcs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=dByvU5yNCIjboAS95oLQCQ&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1025&bih=493
To return to your original question, “which teachers should we trust,” I think we don’t truly know until we test out what they’ve taught. As students, we are in a very vulnerable position.
Caleb: Thanks for the answer, but I’ve got to say it’s not very useful.
Yes, as students we are very vulnerable. As youths, we don’t much time to test what we’ve been taught nor much experience on which to assess our lessons.
If we’re lucky enough to have good parents or good teachers, it can work, but if not, not.
I was caught between my looney family — most of them were dead by the time I was 30 from their craziness — and parochial school which was stable and offered a good education but in those days was still pretty abusive. If you began to question Catholic authority, as I did, it was no fun at all.
I instinctively liked Golden Rule morality, but the nuns and priests were often so mean and weird with kids that I couldn’t see them or the Catholic Church as moral. So they failed my test and I was stuck reinventing the wheel.
I took my cues from the counterculture and it wasn’t a bad choice, all things considered. I was in the slice of college hippies and commune hippies who, aside from looser standards for sex and soft drugs, tended to be very moral. (The street hippie scene was very different and far more dangerous.)
Being a hippie didn’t prepare me for a career — I caught up on that later — but it did give me a decent moral matrix and a chance to finish growing up safely and happily for which I am grateful.
RE: huxley says:
June 28, 2014 at 3:54 pm
Thanks for sharing your view. You saw things I didn’t, and are able to expand my horizons.
My school was heavily influenced by the ideas of Dr. Spock, and was permissive, and therefore very different from a parochial school. I have a number of friends who did attend parochial schools, and the very mention of the word “nuns” gets them telling tales of being whacked by rulers for the most minor infractions. My school, on the other hand, let me withdraw to a dangerous degree, where I never bothered do any work at all, and the only consequence for daydreaming was a half hour detention where I could daydream further. Fortunately in sixth and seventh grade I had three different elderly “old school” teachers who simply wouldn’t allow me to daydream. They kept me after and sat down with me and forced me to actually work. I hated them at the time, but now I am grateful, for I have no idea what would have become of me if I didn’t gain from them at least a slight idea of how to work.
I think it is amazing anyone can get through parochial school and be thankful, as you seem to be, that it “was stable and offered a good education.” In the case of my friends, it convinced them to become Protestants, which I’m sure was not the nun’s intent. However to some degree they do concede the rigid discipline was better than the “street scene.”
As far as I know, there is no mention of nuns in the Bible, and I’ve always been curious where they came from. I’d see them walking by twos, on my trips to Boston as a boy and teen, and even sat next to them in the subway, but was curiously shy about ever even attempting to strike up a conversation. Therefore I remain ignorant about that particular subject.
When you consider the predicament of immigrants back around 1900 “fresh off the boat,” more or less penniless in a big city, it is likely a good thing the Catholic church was there to offer some protection. If the church exploited the hapless, it protected them from worse exploitation, and therefore was more good than evil. By the 1960’s times had changed, and the church was faced with making adaptations it struggles with to this very day.
The one thing parochial schools were better at than my school was drill, which is an obvious Segway to the next part of my essay.
Caleb: Thanks for the generous and open-minded response.
I can see how it would have been helpful for you to run into some “old school” teachers at that point in your life.
I liked to learn and did my schoolwork. My problem was getting by in a world where my home and school experiences tended to be hostile. So for me joining the hippie culture was natural since it was based on people my own age and the belief we could build a better world than the one our parents and teachers provided.
Of course building a better world turned out to be more difficult than we thought. Eventually we became the adults in the world with our own records of compromise and failure.
Today’s Catholic schools are much less abusive. All the scandals and bad memories, not to mention lawsuits, caught up with Catholic education. The teachers are mostly laypeople — not nuns, priests or brothers.
I’ve since learned that the nuns who taught me worked under terrible pressure with not enough sleep. In other words they were being abused too. In the seventies and eighties tremendous numbers of American nuns returned to civilian life and they have not been replaced. In 2012 the average age of an American nun was 74.
Rebellion in human nature goes way back to the original rebellion against “The Elder”.