The Empire of the Viscount Strikes Back!

By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

Professor Shaun Lovejoy, as he continues the active marketing of his latest paper purporting to prove that “the world desperately needs to drop the skepticism and change course – humanity’s future depends on it”, writes in a hilarious op-ed at livescience.com:

“The majordomo of this deniers’ hub [Watts Up With That] is the notorious Viscount Christopher Monckton of Brenchley, who – within hours [fast on his feet, that Viscount is: strong in him the Force must be] – had declared to the faithful that the paper was no less than a ‘mephitically ectoplasmic emanation from the Forces of Darkness’ and that ‘it is time to be angry at the gruesome failure of peer review’.”

The Professor describes this as “venom”. No, sir, it is eloquence in the service of truth. Perhaps he would prefer a scatological rather than an eschatological metaphor. Happy to oblige. The scientific merit of his paper is aptly described by the third, eighteenth, first, and sixteenth letters of the alphabet, taken sequentially. Or, if he prefers it up him palindromically, the sixteenth, fifteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth.

Let me put on my major-domo’s tails, white starched wing-collar, maniple, and white gloves, polish up the nearest silver salver, and, Jeeves-like, shimmer in to address some the fashionable pseudo-physics in Professor Lovejoy’s latest Technicolor yawn.

After deploying the hate-screech word “deniers”, he wheels out Svante Arrhenius, who, “toiling for a year, predicted that doubling CO2 levels would increase global temperatures by 5-6 Cº, which turns out to be close to modern estimates”.

The Professor is perhaps unaware (for he does not seem to be aware of all that much in the realm of physics) that Arrhenius is known to have made errors in his line-by-line calculation of the warming effect of CO2 (actually performed at intervals over the long Arctic winter, not over a whole year). He had, for instance, relied on defective lunar spectral data.

Furthermore, Arrhenius – a chemist and not a physicist – had not at that time come across the fundamental equation of radiative transfer, which would greatly have simplified his calculations and made them more accurate.

However, in 1906, in Vol. 1, No. 2 of the Journal of the Royal Nobel Institute, he recanted and divided his earlier climate-sensitivity estimate by three:

“Likewise, I calculate that a halving or doubling of the CO2 concentration would be equivalent to changes of temperature of –1.5 Cº or +1.6 Cº respectively.”

So few of the F. of D. are aware of Arrhenius’ recantation that I am happy to provide a facsimile (Fig. 1) of the quotation from his 1906 paper, published in German (which perhaps explains why the largely English-speaking F. of D. are unaware of it).

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Figure 1. Detail in facsimile from Arrhenius, S., 1906, Die vermutliche Ursache der Klimaschwankungen (“The possible cause for climate variability”). Meddelanden från K. Vetenskapsakademiens Nobelinstitut 1: 2, 1ff.

It is also important to note that Arrhenius confined his analysis to radiative transports only. He did not take account of all the numerous non-radiative transports – afternoon convection in the tropics, baroclinic eddies in the extratropics, evaporation everywhere, etc. – that militate homeostatically against any sufficiently small perturbation of the natural climate (such as doubling the tiny concentration of CO2 in the air).

Nor did Arrhenius take account of the biggest unknown in the climate – the behavior of clouds. All other things being equal, returning plant food to the atmosphere from which it came will cause some warming. But we do not know that all other things are equal.

Professor Lovejoy is also incorrect to say that Arrhenius’ original estimate of climate sensitivity was “close to modern estimates”. IPeCaC clings to a sensitivity interval of 1.5-4.5 Cº, entirely below Arrhenius’ original estimate and almost entirely above his revised estimate.

Many “modern estimates” point to a climate sensitivity well below IPeCaC’s interval. We may even see less than 1 Cº of global warming per CO2 doubling (Monckton of Brenchley, 2008, 2010; Douglass & Christy, 2009; Paltridge, 2009; Lindzen and Choi, 2009, 2011; Spencer and Braswell, 2010, 2011; Loehle & Scafetta, 2011, etc.).

Next, the Professor says that in the scientific method “no theory ever can be proven beyond ‘reasonable doubt’”. It would be more correct to say that some hypotheses (though few in physics and very few in climate physics) can be demonstrated definitively.

For instance, it is possible to demonstrate the Theorem of Pythagoras. My own simple proof by inclusion is at Fig. 2.

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Figure 2. Demonstration of Pythagoras’ Theorem by inclusion. The boundary contains either the square on the hypotenuse (red) and two congruent right triangles or the squares on the other two sides (blue, green) and two more congruent right triangles. Subtract on each view the two right triangles. Then the square on the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares on the other two sides. Q.E.D.

Professor Lovejoy sets out his stall thus:

“Climate skeptics have ruthlessly exploited this alleged weakness, stating that the models are wrong, and that the warming is natural. Fortunately, scientists have a fundamental methodological asymmetry to use against these skeptics: a single decisive experiment effectively can disprove a scientific hypothesis. That’s what I claim to have done. Examining the theory  that global warming is only natural, I showed — without any use of GCMs — that the probability that warming is simply a giant natural fluctuation is so small as to be negligible. He compounds this point later by saying “skeptics dismiss the models”.

Well, are the models right? A single experiment demonstrates that, on the central question how much global warming should have occurred since 1990, the modelers’ hypothesis that the trend in global temperature would fall on their predicted interval (the orange region in Fig. 3) has been demonstrated to be false. Skeptics doubt the models not least because the modelers’ confidently-made predictions have been demonstrated, time and again, to be wild exaggerations.

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Figure 3. Near-term projections of global warming (IPCC, 1990: orange region), compared with observed outturn taken as the mean of the RSS and UAH monthly global mean surface temperature anomalies, 1990-2014.

Professor Lovejoy says that his “CO2 proxy … predicts with 95 percent certainty that a doubling of CO2 levels in the atmosphere will lead to a warming of 1.9 to 4.2 Cº”. He prays in aid Fig. 4.

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Figure 4. “This figure visually shows the strong linear relation between the radiative forcing and the global temperature response since 1880 … showing the 5-year running average of global temperature (red) as a function of the CO2 forcing surrogate from 1880 to 2004. The linearity is impressive; the deviations from linearity are due to natural variability. The slope of the regression line is 2.33±0.22 degrees Celsius per CO2 doubling (it is for the unlagged forcing/response relation).”

I do not pretend to understand this graph. For a start, it seems to show (albeit in exasperatingly non-standard units) that just about half the CO2 forcing since 1750 occurred before 1960, when CO2 concentration last stood at 316 ppmv. However, the official story-line (in standard units) is that the CO2 forcing from 1750 to 1958 was 0.7 W m–2, whereas that from 1958 to 2014 was greater by four-fifths, at 1.2 W m–2. Makes a bit of a mess of the claimed “linearity”, that.

Secondly, the linear trend on the global temperature anomalies since 1880 is 0.87 Cº, (Fig. 5), in response to 1.9 W m–2 of CO2 forcing. A doubling of CO2 concentration would give 3.7 W m–2 of CO2 forcing, according to the current official method.

Therefore, if there were a linear relation between CO2 forcing and temperature change (which there is not), and if all of the warming since 1750 were anthropogenic (which it was not), and if there were no major natural influences on temperature over the period (which there were) the warming in response to a CO2 doubling would be just 1.7 Cº, not the 2.33 Cº suggested in Professor Lovejoy’s caption.

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Figure 5. The least-squares linear-regression trend on the mean of the HadCRUT4, GISS, and NCDC monthly mean global surface temperature anomalies from 1880-2014 is 0.87 Cº. The linearity is not particularly remarkable: the correlation coefficient is only 0.69. The oscillations of global temperature following the 60-year period of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation can be clearly seen.

There is demonstrably no linear relationship between the CO2 forcing, which increases monotonically, and global temperature change, which is stochastic. Global temperature change is more closely related to changes in the great ocean oscillations in the short term (Fig. 6), in total sunlight hours at the surface in the medium term (Fig. 7), and in total solar irradiance in the long term (Fig. 8).

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Figure 6. The remarkable non-linearity of global temperature change since 1890, showing the two periods of global warming that coincided remarkably with the two positive phases of the naturally-occurring Pacific Decadal Oscillation over the period.

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Figure 7. The remarkable non-linearity of global temperature change in the South China Sea, 1880 to 2008, tracking a remarkable non-linearity in the number of sunshine hours in Japan. Not all pyrometer records show this correspondence: but the Japanese record is the longest we have, and one of the most meticulously kept.

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Figure 8. The remarkable non-linearity of the sunspot record, 1600-2003, from Hathaway et al., (2004). Inset: The remarkable non-linearity of global temperature trend, 1659-2010. The first and most rapid of the three periods (red) of global warming since 1659 (1694-1733) occurred as solar activity began to recover at the end of the Maunder Minimum (1645-1715). The other two periods (1925-1946 and 1977-2000) occurred at the solar Grand Maximum (1925-1995).

Next, Professor Lovejoy makes the startling assertion that the probability that what he calls “rare, extreme fluctuations” in global temperature such as those of the 20th century were natural is 1:1000 to 1:10,ooo.

This is where his omission of any reference to the Central England Temperature Record, or to the Utrecht or Prague temperature records, or to the historical circumstances (the freezing of the Thames, of the Dutch canals, of the Hudson in New York), is so reprehensible.

The rapid warming at the transition from the Maunder Minimum to a more normal climate occurred well before the industrial revolution began. It was not our fault.

Or Professor Lovejoy could have gone back to 1421, at the time when global temperature began to tip downward into the Little Ice Age. An interesting letter in the Vatican archive from the Papal Legate in Greenland to the Secretariat of State reported that the Legate regretted that he could not take up his appointment because “the ice is come in from the north”. Suddenly, ships could not reach Greenland.

By now, anyone who has studied the climate ought to have realized that what Professor Lovejoy calls “rare, extreme fluctuations” are neither rare nor extreme. They are the norm, not the exception.

Moreover, the entire interval of global temperature change since 1750, from the depth of the Maunder minimum to the acme during the Great El Niño of 1988 represents a movement of just 0.9% in absolute mean global surface temperature. By contrast, the change between midday and midnight at one location can be as much as 20% of absolute mean temperature. And the interval between the hottest and coldest places on Earth represents close to half of absolute mean temperature.

Next, the Professor says: “But what about Medieval warming with vineyards in Britain, or the so-called Little Ice Age with skating on the Thames? In the historical past, the temperature has changed considerably. Surely, the industrial-epoch warming is just another large-amplitude natural event?”

He answers his question in the negative, saying large-scale changes can only occur over periods much longer than a century. He would have gotten a nasty surprise if he had been around at the end of the Younger Dryas cooling event 11,400 years ago. At that time, according to the ice cores, the temperature in Antarctica rose by 5 Cº in just three years. As Professor Ian Plimer puts it, “Now, that’s climate change!”

Next, Professor Lovejoy writes: “My result focuses on the probability of centennial-scale temperature changes. It does not exclude large changes, if they occur slowly enough. So if you must, let the peons roast and the Thames freeze solid, the result stands.” No, it doesn’t. Just look at the warming of 1694-1733: 1.7 Cº in just 40 years, a rate equivalent to 4.33 Cº/century.

The Q&A that Professor Lovejoy has issued to prop up his paper says that he regards any change of more than 0.25 Cº over 125 years as exceptional, and likely to occur only 10% of the time. No, it isn’t. As I pointed out in a previous posting, more than a third of all 125-year periods predating the onset of anthropogenic influence on climate in 1950 show warming or cooling of more than 0.25 Cº.

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Figure 9. Left: The misleading propaganda claim made by “Skeptical” “Science” that 97% of scientists agree we are the cause of global warming. Right: The true position exposed by Legates et al. (2013): 99.5% of 11,944 climate-science papers did not say we are the cause. They did not even say we are the primary cause.

Next, Professor Lovejoy says IPeCaC has “strengthened its earlier 2007 qualification of ‘likely’ to ‘extremely likely’ that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming  since the mid-20th century.” Yes, it has, but it has done so not only on no evidence but in the teeth of the evidence.

As Legates et al. (2013) demonstrated, 99.5% of 11,944 scientific papers on climate published between 1991 and 2011 did not say that most of the global warming since 1950 was caused by us (Figure 9).

Besides, since Professor Lovejoy’s paper plays with statistics a great deal, he should know that no recognizable statistical process performed on any actual dataset (unless science now recognizes a show of hands among scientifically-illiterate, rent-seeking representatives of governments) generated IPeCaC’s “95-99% confidence” value.

Next, the Professor asserts that “skeptics … insist that warming results from natural variability”. No, we don’t. We assert that in the present state of knowledge it is impossible adequately to distinguish between natural variability and anthropogenic influence.

The Professor digs his hole ever deeper: “The new GCM-free approach rejects natural variability, leaving the last vestige of skepticism in tatters.” Here is an honest version of that sentence: “I reject natural variability aprioristically, so I bished and bashed the numbers till they fitted my preconception, leaving the last vestige of my scientific credibility in tatters.”

Yet he rants blithely on to the effect that the Canadian government has “axed climate research” (hurrah!); that it gave him no funding for his research (so he got more than he deserved); that it has “shamelessly promoted the dirtiest fuels” (but CO2 is not dirty, it is the stuff of life); that it has “reneged on its international climate obligations” (no, it took lawful and timeous advantage of the opt-out clause in the Kyoto Protocol and, therefore, has no “international climate obligations”); that “two decades of international discussion have failed to prevent emissions from growing” (along with crop yields and net primary productivity of trees and plants, thanks to CO2 fertilization); and, finally, that “the world needs to drop the skepticism and change course – humanity’s future depends on it” (but, as T.H. Huxley said, to the scientist “skepticism is the highest of duties, blind faith the one unpardonable sin”, and whenever someone says humanity’s future depends on something he means his income depends on it).

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tedG
April 23, 2014 2:01 pm

Well done Lord Monckton. The facts are indisputable.

rogerknights
April 23, 2014 2:07 pm

Monckton of Brenchley says:
April 23, 2014 at 1:26 pm
Brad asks whether I had a formal answer from Prince Charles to my debate challenge. I have had no answer, formal or informal, and am not holding my breath for one. Like Al Gore and James Cameron, both of whom ran rather than debate, the Prince avoids speaking on the climate issue to any audience that might ask pertinent questions. This reluctance to debate on the part of the true-believers reveals that they know in their heart of hearts that they are wrong.

Each of them ducks like a quack.
(Everyone: It was my coinage, but feel free to use the phrase as your own–i.e., w/o attribution.)

April 23, 2014 2:07 pm

“Pokerguy” says I should not use long words. Well, Cicero used to include the occasional word or phrase of Greek in his speeches, just as Enoch Powell used to insert phrases in Latin. When Powell once made the mistake of translating a Latin phrase on the fly, it cost him his political career.
He also complains that I am entertaining, implying that I should be taken more seriously if I were boring. If I were boring, few would hear what I had to say. If one wants a message to be heard, then, as the poet Horace wisely said, Omne tulit punctum qui miscuit utile dulci. He who sugars the pill brings home the bacon. As the itinerant story-teller Kai Lung used to say, who are we to challenge the wisdom of the authors of the Odes?

Admin
April 23, 2014 2:13 pm

Dear Lord Monckton, with regard to the following passage:-
… The rapid warming at the transition from the Maunder Minimum to a more normal climate occurred well before the industrial revolution began. It was not our fault. …
I put it to you that there is nothing normal about current climatic conditions – that we are currently enjoying the dying embers of a brief warm spell, before the long night of ice.

April 23, 2014 2:31 pm

michel says:
April 23, 2014 at 1:12 pm
The distinction between the analytic a priori and the synthetic a posteriori is a matter of degree.

– – – – – – – – – – –
michel,
The dichotomy fallacy in Kant’s analytic and synthetic categories renders him harmless.
The Kantian absurdity is that If it something is true it can’t be known, if its known it can’t be true.
Unfortunately, harmless as Kant’s fallacy makes him, there are aspects of his absurdity that have not insignificantly persisted to influence both Popper and Kuhn. (see Brand Blanshard’s ‘Reason and Anaylsis’).
Fortunately, within a Feynman-like view of science there is no significant dependence on Kant’s heritage.
John

April 23, 2014 2:31 pm

Mr Worrall is quite right: we are around 5000 years overdue for a new Ice Age. It has even been suggested (in Unscientific Unamerican) that the ice age has been deferred by our past sins of emission. If so, then we should go on emitting CO2 just as long as we can.
And how well would “renewable” energy sources work in an Ice Age. Electric cars would be a no-no because the roads would be under miles of ice. Windmills wouldn’t work because snow and ice would accumulate on the blades and the motors would seize. Solar panels would be covered in ice and snow. Not a pretty picture at all, in fact. And here is what the “international community” is doing to prepare for the next Ice Age:

RACookPE1978
Editor
April 23, 2014 2:32 pm

M’Lord Monckton …..
I have been asked to provide a local politician (whom I trust and support) a short series of “sound byte” answers to the CAGW challenges she expects in the next few weeks.
Background: Specifically, she expects the local (democrat) press corps (corpse ?) to “promote” the Obama administration’s deadly and bankrupt policies – and to subtly but effectively oppose her own conservative candidacy! – by forcing her to answer CAGW propaganda in each interview. If she fails to answer soundly and professionally she will be branded, tarred, feathered, and fothered by derision. However, she is not a “scientist” and does not pretend to be a scientist by training or education.
You have one such common accusation above: “99% of 11,944 papers did NOT claim that CO2 causes climate change ..”
If I can anticipate perhaps 10 such questions, preparing for her accurate but simplified responses for each that she does have confidence in and understands, she will have a better chance of surviving her critics. From your experience, what are the other typical “accusative” (flat-earth-anti-science-denier) challenges you would expect?

DirkH
April 23, 2014 2:32 pm

Monckton of Brenchley says:
April 23, 2014 at 1:26 pm
“This reluctance to debate on the part of the true-believers reveals that they know in their heart of hearts that they are wrong.”
Reminds me of what I just read over here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-23/how-empires-collapse
“2. The corrupt Status Quo corrupts every individual who works within the system.Once an institution loses its original purpose and becomes self-serving, everyone within either seeks to maximize their own personal share of the swag and minimize their accountability, or they are forced out as a potentially dangerous uncorrupted insider.
The justification is always the same: everybody else is getting away with it, why shouldn’t I? Empires decline one corruptible individual at a time.
3. Self-serving institutions select sociopathic leaders whose skills are not competency or leadership but conning others into believing the institution is functioning optimally when in reality it is faltering/failing.”

SasjaLr
April 23, 2014 2:38 pm

Arrhenius was also wrong in other fields of science. As co-founder of the Race Biological Institute in Uppsala, Sweden, he was part of the work* that become the foundation of the German NSDAP’s** race hygiene in the first half of the 1900’s.
* An idea originating from the Swedish Labour Party and was decided by the left wing dominated government without objection … Yes, there was several types of socialists involved in the Labour Party back then, including National Socialists, but no Liberals … The Liberals had and still have their own party here, belonging to the right wing.
** National Socialist German Labour Party

April 23, 2014 2:47 pm

Chris
There is also a more modern paper that Gavin Schmidt & Co use as their Touchstone.
PLASS, G, . N., 1956 c: Etfect of carbon dioxide variations
on climate, American J. of Physics 24, pp. 376-387.
PLASS, G, . N., 1959:C arbon dioxide and climate, Scient$c
American 201, pp. 41-47.

If you look on Gavin’s site these are at the top of his modern bibliography. Hansen’s number (and those that follow), track very closely to the Plass number of 3.8 degrees C per doubling of CO2.
However, there is a paper that Gavin studiously ignores that specifically refutes Plass. This paper, by Kaplan reduces that number by a factor of two or three. Here is the reference to that paper and its abstract.
Kaplan is no slouch, having done a great deal of the work on early measurements of IR radiation absorption and emission.
The Influence of Carbon Dioxide Variations on the Atmospheric Heat Balance
By LEWIS D. KAPLAN, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
(Manuscript received August 20, 1959)
Abstract
Net fluxes of radiation in the IS micron carbon dioxide band at the top and bottom of the atmosphere have been calculated for several atmospheric models and with various cloud heights. The variation of the fluxes with carbon dioxide amounts is determined, and its effect on temperature discussed. Plass’ estimate of a temperature drop of 3.8′ C due to a halving of the carbon dioxide concentration appears to be too high by a factor of two or three.

Another arrow in thy quiver, the better to strike the hearts of the varlets who distract us….

DirkH
April 23, 2014 2:52 pm

SasjaLr says:
April 23, 2014 at 2:38 pm
“Arrhenius was also wrong in other fields of science. As co-founder of the Race Biological Institute in Uppsala, Sweden, he was part of the work* that become the foundation of the German NSDAP’s** race hygiene in the first half of the 1900′s.”
Eugenics was invented by Darwin’s cousin Francis Galton, and cornerstone of the ideology of the American Progressive Socialists (todays American “liberals”). Hitler admired the USA and FDR for his centrally controlled economy. Section 4 (I think) of Mein Kampf speaks in glowing terms of the USA as the most successful Germanic country in the world. (One of the reasons that Germans are not allowed to read it).
So that’s the more likely route the Nazis got the Eugenics from; emulating America. Whether Arrhenius’ work influenced him is questionable; Eugenics was wildly accepted; John Maynard Keynes, for instance, was president of the Eugenics society for a time. George Bernard Shaw was a member as well.

April 23, 2014 2:55 pm

In response to Mr Cook’s question, here are a dozen facts about global temperature which could be circulated at the politician’s press conferences to keep the extremist media quiet.
 RSS satellite data show no global warming for 17 years 8 months from August 1996 to March 2014. Those 212 months are half the 423-month record since January 1979.
 The fastest 100-year warming rate was in Central England from 1663-1762, at 0.9 Cº per century – before the industrial revolution began. It cannot have been our fault.
 The global warming trend since 1900 is equivalent to 0.8 Cº per century. This is well within natural variability and may not have much to do with us.
 The fastest warming trend lasting ten years or more occurred over the 40 years from 1694-1733 in Central England, equivalent to 4.3 Cº per century. It was not our fault.
 The fastest warming rate lasting ten years or more since we could have influenced it in 1950 occurred over the 33 years 1974-2006 at a rate equivalent to 2 Cº per century.
 Since 1950, when a human influence on global temperature first became theoretically possible, the global warming trend is equivalent to just 1.2 Cº per century.
 In 1990, the IPCC’s mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was equivalent to 3.5 Cº per century.
 The global warming trend since 1990, when the IPCC wrote its first report, is equivalent to 1.4 Cº per century – two-fifths of what the IPCC had then predicted.
 In 2013 the IPCC’s new mid-range prediction of the near-term warming trend was for warming at a rate equivalent to 1.7 Cº per century – just half its 1990 prediction.
 Though the IPCC has cut its near-term warming prediction, it has not cut its centennial warming prediction of 3.7 Cº warming to 2100 on business as usual.
 The IPCC’s prediction of 3.7 Cº warming by 2100 is more than twice the greatest rate of warming lasting more than ten years that has been measured since 1950.
 The IPCC’s 3.7 Cº-by-2100 prediction is more than three times the observed real-world warming trend since we might in theory have begun influencing it in 1950.
 Since 1 January 2001, the dawn of the new millennium, the warming trend on the mean of five datasets is zero – 0.0 Cº per century. No warming for 13 years 2 months.
 Recent extreme weather cannot be blamed on global warming, because there has not been any global warming. It is as simple as that.

timothy sorenson
April 23, 2014 2:57 pm

Personally, I like the phrase, “Same ol’ S#*t, different pile.”

April 23, 2014 3:02 pm

Amidst these dismal decades of shoddy scientists, supine politicians, and junk science creating a degrading, disgraceful and destructive panic in various quarters, there are quite a few good people who have emerged to dispel the gloom from time to time. The valiant viscount is one of them. In spades. His combination of mathematical skills, scientific nous, and flair with the English language is not merely a delight for those of us who admire his work, it is also a substantial thorn, bordering on a spear, in the sides of those who don’t.

April 23, 2014 3:07 pm

Eric Worrall says:
April 23, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Dear Lord Monckton, with regard to the following passage:-

… The rapid warming at the transition from the Maunder Minimum to a more normal climate occurred well before the industrial revolution began. It was not our fault. …

I put it to you that there is nothing normal about current climatic conditions – that we are currently enjoying the dying embers of a brief warm spell, before the long night of ice

– – – – – – – – –
Eric Worrall,
In perspective, there should not be cause for significant imminent concern because of the large time factor involved in the transitions from warm interglacial part of the cycle to the cold glacial part of the cycle.
If the behavior of the many recurring glaciation cycles of the past >>500,000 year (or so) is a model for our current times, then “the dying embers” of the relative warmth of this current interglacial should be a very very gradual cooling over a period of ~5,000 (or more) years into the expected next cold glacial part of the cycle. On the other hand, the exits from the glacial parts of each cycle into the warm interglacial parts have been spectacularly abrupt in comparison to the exits from the interglacial parts into the glacial parts.
Again, if geological history is our guide, because of the timescales involved there is not much basis for highly focused / concentrated urgent concern due to the expected ‘dying embers’ into the cold glacial period.
John

michael hart
April 23, 2014 3:18 pm

Professor, do not overestimate the powers of Arrhenius, or suffer his fate you will.

Greg Goodman
April 23, 2014 3:18 pm

“He who sugars the pill brings home the bacon. ”
A metaphor a mixed up and ugly as an transgender climatologist in a panzer commander’s uniform.

DirkH
April 23, 2014 3:23 pm

Greg Goodman says:
April 23, 2014 at 3:18 pm
“A metaphor a mixed up and ugly as an transgender climatologist in a panzer commander’s uniform.”
That’s a bit unfair to the transgendered.

Greg Goodman
April 23, 2014 3:27 pm

“That’s a bit unfair to the transgendered.”
Oh, and I was thinking someone may pull me up for not being PC with respect to honest, hard working panzer commanders.

Admin
April 23, 2014 3:30 pm

John Whitman
In perspective, there should not be cause for significant imminent concern because of the large time factor involved in the transitions from warm interglacial part of the cycle to the cold glacial part of the cycle … “the dying embers” of the relative warmth of this current interglacial should be a very very gradual cooling over a period of ~5,000 (or more) years into the expected next cold glacial part of the cycle.
Not always John – sometimes the transition to a cold phase is incredibly abrupt. For example, the Younger Dryas struck in no more than a decade, possibly as short a period as 3 months, according to one researcher.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
I doubt we shall see the new ice age in our lifetimes. But I’m not taking any chances – my family and I moved from Britain back to my native Australia, to the Fraser Coast – 25 degrees south of the Equator.

DirkH
April 23, 2014 3:31 pm

Greg Goodman says:
April 23, 2014 at 3:27 pm
“Oh, and I was thinking someone may pull me up for not being PC with respect to honest, hard working panzer commanders.”
Well the bit about the Panzer commander’s uniform was factual.

Evan Jones
Editor
April 23, 2014 3:33 pm

“farmerbraun” says he wonders whether Jeeves “shimmied” or “shimmered”.
The mental image of Jeeves doing the shimmy is quite remarkable.
Not that he couldn’t have turned the trick had a Dire Emergency presented itself (“Anatole has quit!”) had rendered it the prudent course of action.

Perry
April 23, 2014 3:34 pm

Prof Lovejoy of McGill University should understand that his site of work is ranked 31st by the 2014 Times Higher Education World University Rankings & therefore his opinion counts for less than that of Lord Monckton, IMHO. Scurry ye back to dealing with antiques.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovejoy
Now, that’s venom.

Admin
April 23, 2014 3:36 pm

Monckton of Brenchley
Mr Worrall is quite right: we are around 5000 years overdue for a new Ice Age. It has even been suggested (in Unscientific Unamerican) that the ice age has been deferred by our past sins of emission. If so, then we should go on emitting CO2 just as long as we can. …
Dear Lord Monckton, you know it is considered rude in climate circles to provide historical context, a bit like asking John Holdren about his previous stance on climate change 😉

Peter Miller
April 23, 2014 3:40 pm

I agree with you about Lovejoy’s chart – I cannot pretend to understand what it means.
Presumably, it is designed for us to go, “Ooh, ah, wow that’s impressive!”
I am sorry, but if you cannot describe something simply, it means you do not understand it, or you are making it up.