Apparently, being uncertain about climate certainty is a crime worth jail time
What a week this has been. In preparation for the release of the IPCC Working Group II report, hate speech against climate skeptics seems to have ramped up and turned into a week-long unreality show. The proprietors and cheerleaders of the Climate Certainty Channel™ seem to be ever more sure of impending doom caused by (take your pick) global warming – climate change – climate disruption. Here is a summary of the feature programs this past week.
First, priming the pump, just about two weeks ago, we started out with this: Despicable climate ugliness courtesy of Lawrence Torcello – assistant professor of philosophy at Rochester Institute of Technology where he rationalized for climate “deniers” to be jailed.
Monckton followed up with a letter: Monckton’s letter to the Rochester Institute of Technology regarding Assistant Professor Lawrence Torcello
Of course, according to the David Suzuki funded Hoggan PR firm “DeSmog Blog” we are all just a bunch of angry lunatic fringe types for suggesting we take an exception to being jailed…that, and they say we completely misread the intent of Torcello’s essay, which is somehow philosophical: Exclusive: Climate Change Philosopher A Target Of Abusive Hate Campaign:
Under the headline “US Philosophy Professor: Jail ‘Denialist’ Climate Scientists For Criminal Negligence“ Delingpole wrote Torcello had argued “scientists who don’t believe in catastrophic man-made global warming should be put in prison”.
“This was a blatant misrepresentation of my article,” says Torcello
Then on March 19th, it was Anders and his wottsupwiththat spawn blog now changed to andthentheresphysics blog (which is a change in name only), he still allows hate speech: Quote of the Week – get your war crimes trial tickets now!
Apparently, I’m to be “frog marched” to The Hague for war crimes like trials all for having the temerity to have an opinion about not wanting to be jailed for having a skeptical opinion about climate.
Meanwhile, back at Bar-X Hate Ranch, another fan of the Climate Certainty Channel™ embraces Torcello’s essay, and decides to turn the volume up to 11:
In “Arrest Climate Change Deniers,” Gawker writer Adam Weinstein has such gems as:
This is an argument that’s just being discussed seriously in some circles. It was laid out earlier this month, with all the appropriate caveats, by Lawrence Torcello, a philosophy professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology.
“…with all the appropriate caveats,” Well, that makes it OK then! /sarc He adds:
We have laws on the books to punish anyone whose lies contribute to people’s deaths. It’s time to punish the climate-change liars. . .
Those denialists should face jail. They should face fines. They should face lawsuits from the classes of people whose lives and livelihoods are most threatened by denialist tactics. . . Those people are criminally negligent.
So far, not a peep from the standard bearers of climate morals at DeSmog or “andthentheresphyics” about Weinstein taking Torcello’s idea and running with it.
Some reactions to Adam Weinstein’s call for jail time:
Climatistas Double Down on Stupid (Powerline)
Another Fool Calls For My Arrest: Or, Adam Weinstein Slips A Nut (William Briggs)
But wait, it gets better, the clergy steps in and provides their sanction, but just not the one we expect:
Rowan Williams warns of climate catastrophe
The former Archbishop of Canterbury argues that Western lifestyles bear the responsibility for causing climate change in world’s poorest regions
While the “chaos [of the flood] came as a shock to many”, other countries in the developing world such as Bangladesh and Kenya among others had suffered far worse catastrophes caused by climate change over many years.
Dr Williams goes on to attack global warming sceptics and climate change deniers. “There are of course some who doubt the role of human agency in creating and responding to climate change, and who argue that we should direct our efforts solely to adapting to changes that are inevitable, rather than modifying our behaviour,” says Dr Williams.
A clergyman OK with the Telegraph using the hateful term “deniers”? oof!
In other hate-related news, the left went ballistic on Nate Silver for allowing Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. to write. Fabius Maximus has a summary
The Left stages a two minute hate on Nate Silver, Roger Pielke Jr (& me)
Summary: This week many on the Left served a banquet of snark on Nate Silver and his new 538 website for the sin of posting an article by Roger Pielke Jr (Prof Environmental Studies, U CO-Boulder). An article well-supported in the climate studies literature, and consistent with the work of the IPCC (they conceal these things from their followers; least they ruin the narrative). These posts demonstrate the ineffectual tactics that have drained away the Left’s support during the past 3 decades, and after 25 years of work produced no gains in their highest-profile public policy initiative. See other posts in this series, listed below.
It seems the left was arguing more about the fact that Pielke was allowed a place to speak, than what he planned to write about climate at http://fivethirtyeight.com/ It reminded me of the uproar over my interview on PBS News Hour, where they went ballistic because I had somehow violated their perceived inner sanctum, not so much because of what I said.
Predictably, editor Nate Silver caved to pressure, and he’s now back in the good graces of the proprietors of the Climate Certainty Channel™.
And, the Anti-Defamation League is still silent:
The silence of the Anti Defamation League suggests they endorse defamation of climate skeptics
So while we wait for the next IPCC report to come out, let’s consider climate certainty and uncertainty. This graph sums it up nicely.
The boxes represent the statements of certainty from IPCC reports over time. As reality (measurements) diverge from models, becoming more uncertain, the certainty of the IPCC gets stronger, and the hateful rhetoric ramps up to match the mean.
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I want those evil beasts to continue hating me, calling me filthy names and spitting in my face. Do you know why? Because every time they do, it makes me even more determined to fight them until we win, or until I die. When evil people hate me because I am trying to do what’s right, it gives me great strength. Sooooo, keep it up lefties. I thrive on your hatred. Thank You..
Time to start characterizing the real deniers as such. Svere reduction of CO2 spells doom for the world via food crop starvation. We’re not certain what would happen with more CO2 but we do know for certain what would happen if the climate alarmists succeeded in removing vast quantities from the atmosphere. Turn their accusations on themselves. The danger is too little carbon, not too much.
Now the first person to take me to court has to produce one thing, and one thing only.
Scientific proof that mankind’s CO2 emissions are forcing changes
It has to be more than that in a court of law. The evidence has to be indisputable, without doubt (criminal law) and, oh, not tampered.
The logical progression of this is to release the real criminals crowding the jails to make room for us Deniers.
Andrew
To this list dare i add Muslims?
Burn the Christians uh witches uh Jews climate deniers!.
Whilst I cannot accept much of the practices of their religion the west spearheaded by the USA has done a bang-up job of fomenting hatred and ignorance for this group of religious fanatics.
Personally, i can take it or leave it, as long as they don’t break reasonable community and fair laws.
when one understands that climate science = ecology promoting sustainability which demands certain behaviour modification ie a ‘new ecology’ or ‘new man’ then it all becomes clear.
the drive for this ‘new ecology’ or ‘new man’ could be represented with soviet style posters where each person guards their ‘quota’ of earth resources.
the reason they use the term d enier is because they cannot use the word counter revolutionary in public
“No, I am Emmanuel Goldstein!”
The graph above shows that Alarmists are gamblers, at least psychologically.
It is the gambler who gets more confident that he will win every round of roulette that he loses.
The more he loses, the more he is certain that he will win the next round. That’ why he doubles down. Search for “Martingale System” in Google.
I used to enjoy tearing alarmist arguments to threads, but everyone I know or meet these days is now a sceptic or in the ‘Don’t know and don’t care’ camp.
The IPCC will come out with the same old rubbish, but perhaps with some kind of new spin on their ‘findings’. There then will be a short media blitz full of veiled and unsupported threats about Thermageddon, which will probably end up converting more people to the sceptic viewpoint.
A growing number of people are becoming tired of all the alarmist wolf crying, when the evidence for global warming Is not backed up by any observations, other than those which have been deliberately misinterpreted, or by predictions which are nearly always proved to be wrong due to preconceived bias.
I think the cacophony of hate cries are mainly concerned with alarmists becoming increasingly concerned that their gravy train may be about to derail.
When the climate is not doing what the computer models say it should do, then logically, these models are wrong.
The hysterical screams and rants of the “Believers” who resort to threats and insults as their only means left, say this a lot more loudly than any of the failing models and logic.
cnxtim says:
March 30, 2014 at 11:04 am
“Whilst I cannot accept much of the practices of their religion the west spearheaded by the USA has done a bang-up job of fomenting hatred and ignorance for this group of religious fanatics.”
You mean Obama didn’t bow enough?
Ahh…the expert scientific opinion of former Archbishop of Canterbury. It carries about as much weight as that of Westboro Baptist Church members. I don’t think any senior member of a Christian religion is in a position to lecture on damage done by western lifestyle given the organisation’s resume features the Crusades which killed between 1-3 million.
Call me ignorant, but what disaster did Kenya have as a result of ‘western lifestyle induced climate change’?
Gunga Din says:
March 30, 2014 at 10:50 am
“So d*niers should be rounded up and arrested.
Didn’t something like that happen in Germany not really so long ago?”
Happens all the time; the German laws against that are still in place, and are applied generously.
“Holocaust denial, the denial of the systematic genocidal killing of millions of Jews by Nazi Germany in the 1930s and 1940s, is illegal in a number of European countries. Many countries also have broader laws that criminalize genocide denial. Of the countries that ban Holocaust denial, a number (Austria, Germany, Hungary, and Romania) were among the perpetrators of the Holocaust, and many of these also ban other elements associated with Nazism, such as Nazi symbols.” Wikipedia. When the truth isn’t enough, just pass a law. Could never actually happen with AGW, right? Right?
DDP says:
March 30, 2014 at 11:21 am
“Ahh…the expert scientific opinion of former Archbishop of Canterbury. It carries about as much weight as that of Westboro Baptist Church members. I don’t think any senior member of a Christian religion”
So because a catholic pope did something a thousand years ago, no word of any Christian carries any weight today? I’m a Christian! You can therefore ignore everything I say! You made yourself a very simple world. Maybe too simple?
….they are just grump because no one is listening to them….
http://www.gallup.com/poll/167843/climate-change-not-top-worry.aspx
Hockey Schtick
…Joshua Halpern, a failed, egomaniacal chem prof at Howard University, rated “poor” by his unfortunate students….
I looked at your link, and I don’t think it justifies your description. What it shows is considerable improvement over a period of years. Best we let the alarmists do the ad homs; we’re really not very good at that.
Now that the incident of a month or so ago at the Atlanta ADL chapter and the response to it* has taken away the ADL’s (false) claim of being unaware, their lack of a response leaves us with the conclusion that they simply don’t care. They don’t object to Holocaust imagery on principle, as they pretend, but only when it’s putatively used by someone on the other side of the political fence. It’s a free pass if you’re an ally of the ADL or in sympathy with many of its members views on other matters completely unrelated to the Holocaust.
*including a direct, detailed appeal to the director, Mr. Foxman, by WUWT reader Alan Bressler. Scroll down to his excellent letter to Mr. Foxman.
The older generation has seen it all. In Germany, 1933+. There was a scientific consensus on a supremacy of Aryan race, based on a peer-reviewed work of Prof. Ernst Haeckel. To ensure a bright future of the human species it was necessary to exterminate all inferior races. Do you want to see an inferior race? Just look in a mirror. Q.E.D.
There’s a website I visited called, ratemyprofessors.com, with student ratings for their professors. And our dear Lawrence Torcello, philosophy professor at Rochester Institute of Technology, RAT, er…I mean, RID, oops, I mean, RIT (there; I got it), was featured in some student reviews. Before quoting one review perhaps I should tell you that at least one student affectionately refers to this man of paper sheet deep intellect as, “Torch.” “Come on baby, light my fire.”
Ok, now let’s let ‘er rip:
‘4/28/11
CritThin
Grade ReceivedN/A
‘Easy class. You can tell he is interested in the material. He is quite entertaining and good looking. There is a decent amount of reading, and some of it can be very dry. Also, there are some lectures that can just be downright painful (think powerpoints). But that changes fast once you get farther in the quarter.’
Notice something there? Good looking? Now, aside from the fact, that if one looks at a photo of ‘Torch’, that that is an opinion highly subject to debate, one must ask the question: “What the hell does being good looking (or not) have to do with the quality of instruction from a professor?” But then maybe the photons bouncing off his skin and hair carries more appeal then the sound waves emanating from his oral cavity. I doubt it though.
David L. @10:28 am: Models are very flexible. Just “calibrate” them against real data, and you get a wonderful agreement. The only problem is that they don’t know where to get future data.
The former Archbishop of Canterbury’s Western lifestyle has provided him, and others, a level of ignorance that cannot be afforded in the world’s poorest regions. To pretend otherwise is an affront to Christianity.
I’m not asking you to repent, Dr. Williams, just to educate yourself.
Can I ask people to give me a translation of all the allusions/quips/in-jokes and so on?
In my benighted Australianness, i don’t know what much of the article is taking about.
To Michael Hart, ‘
More hate speech this week including a “taxonomy of denial” flow chart claiming that Svensmark “invents physics”, Dr. Judith Curry “knows nothing”, Spencer, Christy, Lindzen, Singer, Happer, McIntyre refuse to “believe” in CAGW, and that Lomborg, Pielke, and Tol have “false beliefs” ‘
is kinda astonishing.
I’ve read most of those guys, and I dare anyone to provide a direct quote that they denied that the climate change. They twist the English language in such a propagandistic way, its not funny. And as history teach us, dangerous.
How about this?:
Here is a subtly subversive logo-idea of mine that should be used at Heartland’s upcoming Conference on Climate Change:
Image—A hockey stick with its shaft slanting upwards & to the right and with its blade flat and pointing to the right. It’s transparently overlaid on a graph of the running mean of GASTA, averaged from five sources.
Caption—”Who’s in Denial Now?”
If brevity is the soul of wit, it’s soulful. It will make people think–or squirm–and smile at its “winning” cleverness.
In particular, in order for it to be included in photos used in the MSM, it should be positioned in one of these locations:
In a banner over the lectern;
In a background placard behind or alongside the lectern. (Similar to the image of the White House used at presidential press conferences.)
In a foreground placard attached to the lectern.
It should also be used on coffee cups, T-shirts, letterheads, and buttons.