Another massive cold wave headed for Eastern US next week to put temperature 20 degrees below normal
Senior WeatherBell Meteorologist Joe Bastardi commented:
I am 58.. never seen anything close to this for late March.
and
[The] pattern next week has as much extreme potential for the time of the year as I can find. Coldest opening to calender spring in 50 yrs at least.
Weather forecast models such as the ECMWF and NCEP, both of which have had good track records this year in identifying polar vortex outbreaks in advance, are now forecasting a massive cold blast for the beginning of spring. See maps:
Dr. Ryan Maue commented on this forecast from ECMWF:
ECMWF 12z (WMO-Essential) 850-hPa temperature + wind streams. Final 10-day outcome after 2nd Arctic blast. Brutal.
He added:
Canadian ensemble system looks like other guidance at 7-days as well. This cake is baked. Arctic blast to end March
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If Lake Michigan can open up a bit, then this cold could drop enormous amounts of Lake Effect snow on Lower Peninsula of Michigan.



Not to badger, but here’s maybe better links, w/the whole ambitious continental water diversion thing illustrated, as well. Obviously a nutcase
/sarc
http://www.ice-age-ahead-iaa.ca/world_development.html
http://www.ice-age-ahead-iaa.ca/NAWAPA.html
‘K. Back to Lurking. 😉
meanwhile, Down Under:
18 March: Qld Country Life: Kate Stark: Meat and greet: carbon bus tour
THE words ‘bus tour’ don’t usually seem to inspire much of a reaction from me but shove the word ‘carbon’ in the sentence and curiosity starts to build.
Before I know it I’ve been very willingly wrangled into joining the Future Farmers Network northern ‘carbon bus’ tour – travelling the back roads west of Townsville on a mission – a mission that could potentially save the world…
As part of the tour, I have also been given the opportunity to document the Young Carbon Farmers ‘maiden voyage’ in a series of blogs. But where to begin when we haven’t actually begun?
Sitting in the foyer, tapping away, I start to think about all the fun (dear boss, when I say ‘fun’ I mean ‘educational experiences’) things the group are going to get to do today.
First up we’ll be heading to Lansdown Research Station where Snow Barlow, professor at the University of Melbourne, will give us a run-down on carbon farming. This guy is all kinds of smart and I’m just waiting for the perfect opportunity to chat with him and figure out how we can save the planet, together.
Oh geez, he just sat down next to me, he’s super excited too! He reckons we need to decrease methane emissions not only because it will be great for the environment but methane in itself is actually energy for the animal and if we can reduce the output, we can increase the energy. Mind. Blown…
http://www.queenslandcountrylife.com.au/news/agriculture/general/opinion/meat-and-greet-carbon-bus-tour/2691978.aspx
I’ve nothing to add, other than I was hoping that tonight’s -5 was going to be the last sub-zero temps we got this year in Northernmost Vermont…
Hope in one hand and poop in the other. Guess which fills up faster?
It has been a long and very cold winter.
Gawd, I hope those anti-Keystone idiots are still protesting and it gets down to -20C with wind gusts up to 50kph. Better yet, they’ve tied themselves to the WH fence and in that intense global warming, the cops fingers are so frozen they can’t them loose for several days.
Not sure where you get this warm arctic nonsense, Arctic bay is -34 and the north pole is -40 right now. Am I missing something?
Balmy -24 at the north pole. Corrected .
Mick -24 F is very cold. Rug up and eat plenty of carbohydrates, and put coats on your doggies, and cats. All you need is a dam good electricity fail, and it is serious.
No deg C . Still seasonal for mid March? I am on the south west coast of BC it was cold here today . About 8 deg C . Usually we would have had spring conditions by now. Still too cold at night to put my palms outside. We may get more frost yet.
Well we are going low at night, about 10 C, and we are in early autumn. But it goes up to 25-26 C in the daytime. Yes I am watching my outside plants and bonsai as some are succulents. I have a palm too, it was a $10 pot plant, 13 years ago. Put it out in the front garden, now it is a giant of a thing, with really hard stems with sharp almost like razor wire on them. A cotton palm. It does manage the cold. Oh- I live in Armidale, North Western NSW, on the Northern Tablelands, 3500 ft absl. We occasionally get snow. But regular hoar frost. You know if there is cloud cover, frost doesn’t settle.
Mick says:
March 17, 2014 at 9:05 pm
“Not sure where you get this warm arctic nonsense, Arctic bay is -34 and the north pole is -40 right now. Am I missing something?”
Have a look at this graph:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/plots/meanTarchive/meanT_2014.png
If you start at the main page you can look at previous years:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.php
Years are listed on the left. The blue horizontal line is 0° C. or 32° F.
Meanwhile the Dome A AWS in Antarctica recorded a temperature of -92C on 11 Mar 2014 ( http://www.aad.gov.au ). We could be in for yet another record year for antarctic sea ice.
[snip – crazy HAARP conspiracies aren’t something we discuss here by policy -mod ]
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Bruiser, minus 92C, this must be a record low. It’s not even winter there yet? Poor little King Penquins.
So, Pamela Gray, how can it be so darn chilly up in Wallowa County, while it’s so balmy 200 miles away in Frenchglen in Harney County? We could use some rain and snow!
“Is this how a glaciation age starts?”
Yes. Does this mean we are entering one? No. We are getting a taste of the pattern. There have been many tastes before as evidenced by historic pictures of Niagara Falls. My suspicion is that the polar warming has more to do with the displacement of the “vortex” than the opening up of lake effect off the Arctic Ocean and Hudson Bay, and that the moisture source for North American glaciation is the Gulf. But that is just my suspicion and yours may wind up being correct. Keep thinking. It’s a beautiful thing.
A massive cold wave?
After this interminable winter, what’s another bit of cold; though, at this stage, I wouldn’t call it massive … just call it another outbreak of polar air.
The real question so far is … how late in May will it snow in Buffalo? Do I hear a bid for June?
Come to europe if you need warm weather, we had a winterless winter in Holland.
Why don’t we ask Prof. (?) Tim Flannery and Michael Mann, see what they actually reply.
All the global warming heat is still there, it’s now hiding in outer space.
It formed this great big giant fireball that’s really really hot, like an atom bomb or something.
You cannot see it at night because it hides and collects more CO2 and waits until morning and then it comes out and makes EVERYTHING hot. I’ve noticed that it’s staying out a little later each day.
I think we should build a space ship and go investigate this fireball, but we’ll have to go at night when it’s sleeping.
Any farmers out there?
What will this do to the Canadian/north-USA grain growing season? I imagine the ground will remain frozen/un-plantable for another month. Can you still grow a grain crop when the season is a month shorter than normal?
Thanks.
the co2 debate will be won by those who have an edge in long range forecasting which the co2ers say is impossible but which people are having success at. If the co2ers cannot long range forecast but others can then what does that say about the co2ers level of knowledge of weather processes?
For any of you who do not know, the National Weather Service now recalculates weather “normals” the first year of each decade by averaging the readings from the previous 30 years. So “normals” are in fact nothing more than fairly short term averages. I agree with the posters who urge us to not use the term “normal” but always write of the average.
We are in a cycle of weak polar vortex, which will last until 2040. Low solar activity strengthens the braking effect of the polar vortex.
With all these weather records being broken the [suspicion] will arise that the climate is on some sort of performance enhancing substance…
Hans Erren says:
March 17, 2014 at 11:46 pm
“Come to europe if you need warm weather, we had a winterless winter in Holland.”
But Scotland had the largest snow for 69 years! Where in Europe turns out to be important as well.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-26339994