UPDATE: Bill McKibben doesn’t seem to want to address the question. See below.
Earlier today, 350.org’s founder Bill McKibben tweeted this:
[Source: http://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/442052998324551680 ]
Tom Nelson asked about those boxes and the environmental impact to which I replied:
[Source: http://twitter.com/wattsupwiththat/status/442055366595977216 ]
And sure enough, here’s a picture of those boxes full of comments delivered today by Bill’s claimed “100 people” from NRDC, 350.org, Sierra Club, Friends of the Earth. League of Conservation voters, and many other environmental organizations:
![Comment%20boxes%20from%20KXL%20NID%20Delivery%20Credit%20Rocky%20Kistner%20NRDC-thumb-500x375-14923[1]](http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/comment20boxes20from20kxl20nid20delivery20credit20rocky20kistner20nrdc-thumb-500x375-149231.jpg?quality=83)
Source, NRDC news website. Credit Rocky Kistner NRDC Note some boxes don’t have labels. more on that below.
I made up a humorous comparison photo that speaks to the photo op issue:
But having finished that, I decided to look around a bit more for news, to see if there was a complete list of organizations involved and maybe an actual number of petitions. I found this video shot today of the march to deliver these described by Bill McKibben.
With 18 minutes to go, over 2 million anti-kxl comments into State Dept. Took 100 people to carry the boxes over. Amazing work by all!
(BTW: Note the banner says 1.5 million, in the news article, they say that another half million comments were added at the last minute, and the banner had already been printed)
And watching that video, I noticed something very odd at the 27 second mark, note the arrows:
Either those gnarly looking protestors are endowed with near superhuman wrist strength, or those boxes are empty.
It makes me wonder how many petitions they really delivered, and how many boxes were empty, but brought along just for the photo op.
Who knows with these clowns? So much for Bill’s required 100 people.
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UPDATE: 3/8 10AM PST
No response from Bill since this post went up last night.
@billmckibben Hey Bill any comment on those "2million" KXL comments delivered in empty boxes? http://t.co/wnz0PlgKjQ
— Watts Up With That (@wattsupwiththat) March 8, 2014
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A carton of paper weighs about 50 pounds. Those boxes are obviously empty, and Bill McKibben is a liar. Further proof that the enviro-fascists have no moral scruples whatsoever. Not that we needed any.
note the headline has changed from the url. wouldn’t bother excerpting a single line, but cannot believe this is what passes for the “progressive left” today:
6 Mar: Salon.com: Lindsay Abrams: Climate buffoons’ real motives: 5 reasons they still spout debunked garbage
From greed to idiocy, here’s the true agenda of deniers who still claim climate change isn’t happening
http://www.salon.com/2014/03/06/the_twisted_minds_of_climate_deniers_5_theories_for_why_they_still_refuse_to_see_reason/
I surmise that we’ll never really know what’s in (or, isn’t in) those boxes because the minute they get to the State Dept. Eric Holder from DOJ will seize them and state that Obama is claiming Executive Privilege to prevent a Congressional committee from issuing a subpoena to see their contents. Kerry, Holder, and Obama, in perfect rhythm will say, “Trust us, those boxes are full.”
And that’s when that old line about; ‘move along, there’s nothing to see here;’ will, for the very first time in our lives, be genuinely true.
Coach Springer says: @ur momisugly March 8, 2014 at 4:55 am
Comments were limited to no more than 50 per person per organization? Stunt all the way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
19 plus organizations Times 50 comments per person = 950 comments per person. That reduces to 2105 people WITHOUT breaking “the rules”
Hubby says he has been getting “Comment on Keystone” e-mails ALL the time from a group he belongs to in MA.
(Don’t forget they share e-mail lists too.)
I REALLY H@ur momisuglyTE ASTROTURF!
Just goes to prove they were lightweight comments.
Eliza says: @ur momisugly March 8, 2014 at 5:23 am
Looks like Jo Anne Nova is also down. Crossed checked with other skeptic sites they are OK. Beware of a cyber attack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WUWT went down several times on me yesterday. So did a couple other sites. (Was using Firefox switched back to Opera.)
How many mickey mouses does it take to fill a box?
Gail; Pierre’s Notrickszone went under repeatedly the last days, Pierre says technical problems at provider.
NSA re-wiring the internet maybe.
Finally, a topic that I am an expert in. Paperwork!
Take a typical piece of paper and a typical bankers box. A package of 500 sheets of paper weighs 5 lbs and is 2″ thick. If you place them in a banker’s box vertically and on their side (to maximize the amount of paper in the box) you can fit 14.5″ worth of paper into a banker’s box.
500 x 14.5 / 2 = 3,625 pieces of paper in each banker’s box.
5.0 x 14.5 / 2.0 = 36.25 lbs + 2 lbs for the bankers box.
I count 24 banker’s boxes into the photo. That means there is a maximum of 87,000 pieces of paper in all the bankers boxes.
How many banker’s boxes would it take to hold 2 million petitions? 552.
BUSTED!
Any article that mentions “Canada” and “tar sand” should be ignored. Canada does not have any tar sand development, it has oil sand development. Tar sands are devoid of the lighter aspects of crude oil. Tar is used is road construction, oil is used to fuel and lubricate machinery, anyone who can’t tell the difference should not write about either.
Either the protests were registered on BLACK paper – or a lot of those boxes are half empty…
Just look at the hand-hold slots…
100 people to carry 24 boxes..? Four people to a box..?
Methinks Mr McKibben is exaggerating just a tad…
Then after the march they all got in their SUVs and drove home and turned up the heat and used electricity and produced CO2
What printer did they use, I need one. Please ask for printer model and cartridge number, I am sure it will take a few of those. If they farmed out the printing, who and what was the cost?
Never mind ‘killing the tree’ to print out all those e-mails, what abut the toner cartridges (and/or ink carts) used up and that will now go into land fills?
And the printers they (would purportedly) wear out too?
(This is, as others are pointing out, if there are actually ‘printed’ e-mails etc in those boxes. It may be that only one or two boxes contain any valid ‘material’.)
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An aside: IMO this is NOT how a representative-based, ‘republic’ is supposed to operate either.
How many No to KXL “comments” can you fit on a one page- I’d say at least 20- if you completely destroy formatting with no margins- probably a few hundred. Fonts of size 1- thousands of “comments”.
If all these “people” and boxes got into the building, the State Dept must have deployed the same securityarrangements as the Benghazi facility that got trashed and 4 persons were killed.
I support “bot” rights … bots should have the same right to send comments as anyone else …
McKibben’s juvenile street show has been virtually ignored by major media. R.I.P. McKibben et al…hello Keystone.
Just another example of how Sovietized the United States has become:
Professional protesters paid for by organizations with ulterior motives pretend to protest, while professional politicians paid for by organizations with ulterior motives pretend to listen to them.
Reality is whatever we feel. And we feeeeeel like 2 million. It takes big boxes to hold all the feelings.
It’s Oil Sands folks. “Tar Sands” is used the same way as “Denier” is.
Hmmm… I can only see some boxes, and obviously without content when looking through the handles. 😀
Either those gnarly looking protestors are endowed with near superhuman wrist strength, or those boxes are empty.
Neat observation. My first thought on seeing the stack of boxes in the first photo was: “Are those boxes empty?”
Yesterday the news banner on ABC’s Good Morning America said support for the KXL pipeline had surged to a new high.