From the University of Delaware a press release I just can’t stop laughing about. Of course, they have no real-world tests of this claim, only “their sophisticated climate-weather model”. No numbers were given on turbine “mortality”, so one wonders how many would survive.

Offshore wind turbines could weaken hurricanes, reduce storm surge
Wind turbines placed in the ocean to generate electricity may have another major benefit: weakening hurricanes before the storms make landfall.
New research by the University of Delaware and Stanford University shows that an army of offshore wind turbines could reduce hurricanes’ wind speeds, wave heights and flood-causing storm surge.
The findings, published online this week in Nature Climate Change, demonstrate for the first time that wind turbines can buffer damage to coastal cities during hurricanes.
“The little turbines can fight back the beast,” said study co-author Cristina Archer, associate professor in the University of Delaware’s College of Earth, Ocean, and Environment.
Archer and Stanford’s Mark Jacobson previously calculated the global potential for wind power, taking into account that as turbines are generating electricity, they are also siphoning off some energy from the atmosphere. They found that there is more than enough wind to support worldwide energy demands with a negligible effect on the overall climate.
In the new study, the researchers took a closer look at how the turbines’ wind extraction might affect hurricanes. Unlike normal weather patterns that make up global climate over the long term, hurricanes are unusual, isolated events that behave very differently. Thus, the authors hypothesized that a hurricane might be more affected by wind turbines than are normal winds.
“Hurricanes are a different animal,” Archer said.
Using their sophisticated climate-weather model, the researchers simulated hurricanes Katrina, Isaac and Sandy to examine what would happen if large wind farms, with tens of thousands of turbines, had been in the storms’ paths.
They found that, as the hurricane approached, the wind farm would remove energy from the storm’s edge and slow down the fast-moving winds. The lower wind speeds at the hurricane’s perimeter would gradually trickle inwards toward the eye of the storm. “There is a feedback into the hurricane that is really fascinating to examine,” said Archer, an expert in both meteorology and engineering.
The highest reductions in wind speed were by up to 87 mph for Hurricane Sandy and 92 mph for Hurricane Katrina.
According to the computer model, the reduced winds would in turn lower the height of ocean waves, reducing the winds that push water toward the coast as storm surge. The wind farm decreased storm surge — a key cause of hurricane flooding — by up to 34 percent for Hurricane Sandy and 79 percent for Hurricane Katrina.
While the wind farms would not completely dissipate a hurricane, the milder winds would also prevent the turbines from being damaged. Turbines are designed to keep spinning up to a certain wind speed, above which the blades lock and feather into a protective position. The study showed that wind farms would slow wind speeds so that they would not reach that threshold.
The study suggests that offshore wind farms would serve two important purposes: prevent significant damage to cities during hurricanes and produce clean energy year-round in normal conditions as well as hurricane-like conditions. This makes offshore wind farms an alterative protective measure to seawalls, which only serve one purpose and do not generate energy.
Jacobson and study co-author Willett Kempton, professor in UD’s College of Earth, Ocean and Environment, weighed the costs and benefits of offshore wind farms as storm protection.
The net cost of offshore wind farms was found to be less than the net cost of generating electricity with fossil fuels. The calculations take into account savings from avoiding costs related to health issues, climate change and hurricane damage, and assume a mature offshore wind industry. In initial costs, it would be less expensive to build seawalls, but those would not reduce wind damage, would not produce electricity and would not avoid those other costs — thus the net cost of offshore wind would be less.
The study used very large wind farms, with tens of thousands of turbines, much larger than commercial wind farms today. However, sensitivity tests suggested benefits even for smaller numbers of turbines.
“This is a paradigm shift,” Kempton said. “We always think about hurricanes and wind turbines as incompatible. But we find that in large arrays, wind turbines have some ability to protect both themselves and coastal communities, from the strongest winds.”
“This is a totally different way to think about the interaction of the atmosphere and wind turbines,” Archer said. “We could actually take advantage of these interactions to protect coastal communities.”
The paper, titled “Taming Hurricanes with Arrays of Offshore Wind Turbines,” appears online on Feb. 26 in Nature Climate Change and will be published in print in March.
I’ve just lost the will to live.
the current warmist narrative to not focus on IF there is climate change [that’s settled science] but to ask what your RESPONSE to climate change is. Anyone who dares to dispute is of course ‘a denier’ thus a ‘crank funded by oil companies’
“which takes a first step by asking the media to debate the constructive responses to climate change, not its existence.”
http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/2295371/the_medias_climate_fail_we_must_move_beyond_mere_anger.html
i am encouraged if they now think even the bbc is not being revolutionary enough on the co2 deathstar project
Did do their he work anymore than the scientists that study hurricanes for they refuse to look at sunspot activity for cause and and affect.
Then one who studies the major ones fines it takes Cuba land mass to slightly slow one down or slightly move it more into the Gulf before it up swings into the USA. For those that hit the USA from the south can maintain storm strength as far Atlanta. The rain produced can continue north pass Ohio and to the NE Coast
Further, it is not hurricanes we need to stop but man’s urge to live within inches of the ocean water line. We need the hurricanes for reasons stated.
During peak sunspot activity hurricanes provide much needed rain to the US soil. We don’t need a bunch of wind farms in the way.
They need to get a total picture of what they are doing.
Well, a mangrove swamp will defend the coast in the same way.
And it would be a lot cheaper too.
And it would actually remove CO2 frorm the atmosphere
I think I might be on to something here – anyone got a reserarch grant?
Got to be a spoof . . . makes me more convinced than ever that we should be creating a more effective sifting structure to reduce the number of idiots getting blown into our universities . .
“Just a moment….Just a moment.
I’ve just picked up a fault in the AE-35 Unit.”
It’s a pity they forgot that wind turbines aren’t designed to operate in windy conditions. They tend to fall apart , get blown away or catch fire. As for the net costs being less than from fossil fuels, words fail me. What numpties. Are there no standards of academic ability these days to prevent idiots getting into universities?
If they are right, surely it would mean that there are significant diminishing returns from building more and more wind turbines?
Sorry just had a vision of 500metre high wind turbines in a belt 50 kilometres deep covering every hectare of ocean around Australia. Yep that will work – not.
I live on the NW coast of England. There is a wind farm just a couple of miles offshore in Morecambe Bay. We had hurricane force winds just a couple of weeks ago and my damaged and destroyed ridge tiles and ripped up fence call BS on Archer’s and Jacobson’s study.
Once upon a time, one could more often autonomously assign credence to the halls of higher learning.
The more the myth of AGW is exposed as fraudulent ‘science’, the nuttier the professors get.
Sometimes, Anthony, you just got to burst out laughing.
Not long ago, I ran across the story of a PPE (Politics, philosophy & economics) graduate from Oxford, no less, who thought the solution for our present economic woes was simply for the BOE (Bank of England) to print more money.
Our universities now are no more than factories of fear & fantasy.
JD. 🙂
As the storm surge is mostly caused by the low pressure at the centre of the storm the implication is that the windmills increase atmospheric pressure. That will raise an eyebrow or two.
But then again, the closer you get to April 1st the more ludicrous the effusions appear to get.
“The little turbines can fight back the beast,” said study co-author Cristina Archer.
Never heard of King Canute then?
So, by this logic wind farms change the environment by reducing wind and wave heights. I wonder what negative environmental impact this has ?
“The net cost of offshore wind farms was found to be less than the net cost of generating electricity with fossil fuels. The calculations take into account savings from avoiding costs related to health issues, climate change and hurricane damage, and assume a mature offshore wind industry. In initial costs, it would be less expensive to build seawalls, but those would not reduce wind damage, would not produce electricity and would not avoid those other costs — thus the net cost of offshore wind would be less.
The study used very large wind farms, with tens of thousands of turbines, much larger than commercial wind farms today. However, sensitivity tests suggested benefits even for smaller numbers of turbines.”
Is this some kind of joke?
“assume a mature offshore wind industry” means having first spent many hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, of dollars constructing the things. In what universe would flood mitigation, coastal protection, drainage schemes etc cost anything like that much? Where would the money come from anyway? And bear in mind, a decent sized coal or gas plant comes in at less than $500m and generates enough reliable power, 24/7/365, for a small city.
I am utterly gobsmacked.
There is plenty of evidence to support the fact that many man-made structures don’t last too long in hurricanes. Not sure how wind turbines will help given the fact that in high wind, they have to be disabled. So, they are a “sitting duck” effectively. Yeah I agree, a LOL article!
Why not invest in real problems? In US there are the San Andrea Fault and Yellowstone that should be addressed. Not much that can be done when nature act, but pre damage control is better than the political collateral damage solution that’s used …
So they’re claiming a modeled drop in “Hurricane” Sandy’s wind speed of 78 to 87 MPH. I found NOAA data online that clocked Tropical Storm Sandy at 49 MPH sustained with gusts up to 73 MPH at JFK. So… 49 minus 87 equals…
-38 MPH sustained, with gusts to -14 MPH.
I’m impressed. Now if they’ll just code in a divide-by-0 they can even replicate the alleged Bermuda Triangle space warp, too. With modeling like that, I’m not surprised that they found offshore wind to be cheaper than fossil fuels.
“”…said Archer, an expert in both meteorology and engineering……””
Engineering? Wind turbines stopping hurricanes? Don’t make me laugh.
” … large wind farms, with tens of thousands of turbines”
Time to buy GE and Vestas stock.
Their conclusion that the net costs are better is fudged by padding benefits and minimizing maintenance and other consequences of such huge farms (10,000 windmills?!).
And all they need is a few billion dollars to conduct a test…
Here is a billion dollar question: the study surely suggests that it is possible to affect a hurricane such that it changes its path and thus cause damage in locations where that otherwise would not have occurred. That would provide grounds for suing the wind farm companies. Are they willing to take that risk? This is a general problem with geoengineering:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130102140521.htm
And the band played……..”Believe it if you like!! What a pile of warmist tosh! 🙂
In the UK the National Grid would meltdown and the taxpayer would pay for the damage!