UPDATE: 2/27 6:30AM PST It seems the person making the attack, Shelley Rose, is part of a climate activist group, see below.
UPDATE: 2/27 2:50PM PST, The ADL Atlanta website has deleted comments on the issue, and has closed the press release to further comments. See below.
Boy, this is ugly, and I hope this boils down to simply an error in judgement by a lower tier administrator because this is like some bizzaro-world episode; on one hand the Anti-Defamation League is coming down against the “…type of comparison diminishes and trivializes the Holocaust.“, while on another they are giving a “get out of jail free card” to the people who have repeatedly done that very thing over several years.
Two telephone calls and two emails today requesting comment from ADL’s Southeast Interim Regional Director Shelly Rose have gone unanswered. She’s aware of my calls. I asked for her directly, gave my name and affiliation, and after a pause on hold her assistant asked if it would be OK to “send you to voice mail”. Ms Rose did provide a copy of the press release below, after I queried the main organization in New York after receiving a tip about this release, but found no evidence of its existence on the ADL Press Center website. The press release below still isn’t on the website as of this writing at 6:15PM EST well after close of business there. All of my requests were done during normal business hours for both the Atlanta and NYC office.
I have to wonder if the main organization is endorsing this press release, or if this is some regional director who went rogue.
Here is the press release.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Shelley Rose (404) 262-3470 work; 678-938-1399 cell
ADL Condemns Spencer’s Nazi Analogy
February 25, 2014, Atlanta, Georgia … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today denounced remarks by University of Alabama – Huntsville professor Roy Spencer who wrote on his blog that those who refer to him as a climate change “denier” should be called “global warming Nazis” and that they “are supporting policies that will kill far more people than the Nazis ever did — all in the name of what they consider to be a righteous cause.”
He also claims those who advocate for policies to slow global warming are “like the Nazis” in that they are fascist and anti-capitalist. The post is also accompanied by an image of a swastika.
Shelley Rose, ADL Southeast Interim Regional Director issued the following statement:
University of Alabama Professor Roy Spencer’s analogy of proponents of global warming to Nazis is outrageous and deeply offensive. This analogy is just the latest example of a troubling epidemic of comparisons to Hitler and the Holocaust.
It has become too common to use comparisons to the Holocaust and Nazi imagery to attack people with opposing views, whether the issue is global warming, immigration or stem-cell research.
The six million Jewish victims and millions of other victims of Hitler deserve better. Their deaths should not be used for political points or sloganeering. This type of comparison diminishes and trivializes the Holocaust. There is no place for it in civil discussions.
Shelley Rose |Interim Regional Director
Anti-Defamation League | 3490 Piedmont Road; Suite 610 | Atlanta, Georgia 30305
Phone: 404-262-3470 I Fax: 404-262-3548 I Cell: 678-938-1399 I srose@adl.org
ADL website I our blog I facebook I twitter I youtube I pinterest I google+ I linkedin
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I queried Ms Rose for a comment on the last paragraph, asking:
Wouldn’t that also apply to the use of “denier” to denigrate people, including Dr. Spencer. whose research has nothing to do with the holocaust or denial of it?
I also asked her to comment on the “green light” as a working title, asking if it was an accurate representation of their position. It was clear to me from the lack of response to two emails and two telephone calls was ” no comment”.
From their website, apparently slurs in major league football rate higher in concern than comparing climate skeptics to holocaust deniers for the purpose of denigration:
ADL Welcomes NFL’s Willingness to Address Hate Speech
The League welcomed reports that the NFL is considering how to discourage the use of offensive slurs during the course of games and said that “the question of how to address offensive speech and the best ways to counter it on playing fields and in locker rooms is an important conversation.”
And that’s why I think this is bizarre. The selective hypocrisy is stunning. I’m hoping the main office in New York will come to their senses and disavow the press release from the “Interim Regional Director”. Surely they must see the ugly conundrum they’ve manufactured for themselves.
Dr. Roy Spencer responds:
Hypocrisy at the Anti-Defamation League?
He asks exactly what I was thinking; where was ADL all these years when such ugly and hateful comparisons were being made:
Ms. Rose, where was your organization when journalists, politicians, and even some scientists, chose to call us skeptics “deniers”?
We don’t deny either “global warming” or “climate change”. Yet, we are called “deniers”. Ms. Rose, do you have any inkling why the term “denier” (which is a lie) might be used against us, rather than the term “skeptic” (which is accurate)? I think you know why.
I’d really like to know how ADL can turn a blind eye the use of “denier” for the purpose of denigration while at the same time calling out a victim of the denigration for fighting back after years of abuse.
There’s also a newspaper article about it:
UAH climate expert Roy Spencer calls critics ‘global warming Nazis’; Anti-Defamation League objects
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2014/02/uah_climate_expert_roy_spencer.html
UPDATE: The PR is now posted on the Atlanta ADL website here
http://atlanta.adl.org/news/adl-condemns-spencers-nazi-analogy/
Comments are allowed there. Be civil if you leave comments please.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that this person simply doesn’t know the history, and committed a terrible error in judgment.
UPDATE2: 2/27 6:30AM PST It seems the person making the attack, Shelly Rose, is part of a climate activist group, see photo and caption.
The caption reads:
Congregations Caring for the Climate – Atlanta, GA
Bill Witherspoon, from Congregation Bet Haverim writes: This was taken Friday evening before Erev Shabbat Services. We had about three times this many for services eventually, but these were the ones who arrived in time for the photo. As part of our second week of the Omer to Honor the Earth, Shelley Rose (third from right, just right of our Torah scrolls) gave the d’var (sermon) on acting with awareness that we all breathe the same air, and Tovah Melaver (second from right) led a breathing meditation.
April 13, 2007
Source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stepitup2007/464126698/
You can read all about this organization at http://stepitup2007.org
Of note is the list of “Friends and Allies” which reads like a who’s who in climate activism.
This whole episode makes a lot more sense now.
UPDATE3: 2/27 2:50PM PST, The ADL Atlanta website has deleted many comments on the issue, and has closed the press release to further comments. About an hour ago, I noted 90 comments were posted, now it is down to 50. See below.
Meanwhile I’ve drafted and sent a letter by email and by fax to ADL National Director, ABRAHAM H. FOXMAN asking if ADL plans to comment on the issue, and to ask id they plan to apply their condemnation equally, along with examples of what climate skeptics have been subjected to over the years. I think they simply have been caught unaware in a conundrum created by their Atlanta Interim Director.
I ask that if anyone makes communications with this organization, please be factual and respectful – Anthony
ananthur says:
“i spend more than 10 years on AGW. i read alot of scientific papers on this topic…”
It has done you no good.
First, you credulously accept the so-called ‘authority’ of the IPCC. Apparently you are unaware that the IPCC has gotten about 40% of it’s own information from the WWF — an NGO/QUANGO that is nothing but a leftist propaganda outlet.
Next, you say, “…as you did not know about land use change…”.
What you don’t seem to know is that WUWT is the original source of land use change concerning the UHI effect. Since you didn’t know that, we can assume you are simply ignorant, as most people are who get their misinformation from nonsense blogs like SkS. To get up to speed on the topic — something you desperately need to do — I suggest you use the search function here, and type in “UHI”. You can also start here. Your ignorance is curable — if you really want to cure it.
Finally, your problem is this: despite repeated requests, you have never posted any measurable, testable scientific evidence showing that human emissions are the cause of any global warming. The reason is simple: because there is no such scientific evidence. It does not exist. So where does that leave you?
It leaves you all alone, spouting nonsense. If something is not measurable, it is hardly science. Is it? No. Rather, it is conjecture, or opinion, or belief, or baseless assertion. You are guilty of all those.
You can easily show that I am wrong: simply post measurable, testable scientific evidence showing that X amount of additional CO2 causes Y temperature increase.
But you are incapable of posting any such evidence, because no such scientific evidence exists. The entire “carbon” scare is only a belief-based conjecture. The only measurable, testable relationship between CO2 and temperature shows that ∆T is the cause of ∆CO2 — not vice-versa.
Your entire belief system is based on unscientific nonsense. That is why you get no respect here. You are just another internet fool whose mind has been colonized by the “carbon” scare.
So prove me wrong, if you can, and in the only way you can: post verifiable, measureable scientific evidence proving that CO2 causes global warming. Keep it in mind that scientific evidence is raw, verifiable data, and empirical [real world] observations. It is not peer revieweed papers, or the IPCC/WWF propaganda, or computer model GIGO output. Evidence is measurable data.
So have at it, junior. Prove me wrong. Otherwise, you fit the description ^here^.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/26/confessions-of-a-greenpeace-droput-to-the-u-s-senate-on-climate-change/
That is why you get no respect here. You are just another internet fool whose mind has been colonized by the “carbon” scare.
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Science is way above these cretins. Funny in undergrad these trolls were taking remedial math and English or majoring in psychology, sociology and the like. Now they are clamoring for an increase in the minimum wage to $10 dollars/hr…ooooh.
Please people, stop feeding the 4-A (AAAA)! ; p
Hey Aanthanur DC, you some how figured out how to use the shift key to capitalize your user name, but cant seem to use it in your posts. For a person who doesn’t speak English you sure can kick out numerous posts in 5 minute intervals….hmm.
I’m a proud “denier”, but I prefer NON- believer, of your religion!
“Aanthanur DC says:
February 28, 2014 at 1:44 pm
David Ball”
“i know very well what i posted.
1 shows the increased greenhouse effect measured from space.
and the other show that the increase in Co2 concentrations is mainly human caused.”
Like I said, zero understanding. My links completely undermine your links and you claim “conspiracy theory” even though others have published work that support this post. You have been bested by many posters on here (especially Jimbo).
There is no identifiable human signal in any of what you posted. You only want it to be so.
Peace. Out.
You can easily show that I am wrong: simply post measurable, testable scientific evidence showing that X amount of additional CO2 causes Y temperature increase.
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Well, that’s fun what don’t you just ask the guy to prove the null hypothesis. 🙂
Richard D,
I couldn’t in good conscience ask junior to do that, because a hypothesis can’t be proven, only falsified. But so far, no one has falsified the Null Hypothesis.
But I would be happy if he posted measurable evidence showing that ∆CO2 caused ∆T, because I would learn something. ☺
I just don’t think he can do it. Because I think any effect from CO2 is simply too small to measure, using current technology.
Over 20 quotes that the ADL ignores,
Skeptics Smeared As Holocaust Deniers, ADL Silent
@ur momisugly dbstealy,
I hate statistics and engineers…. 🙂
[The mods appreciate your smile as you said that. 8<) Mod]
“What you don’t seem to know is that WUWT is the original source of land use change concerning the UHI effect. ”
i did indeed not know that, as i didn’t know that WUWT exists since 1810.
Over 20 quotes that the ADL ignores,
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The first order of business for :non profits” like the ADL and NAACP is to pay its staff and executives well. And then support fellow travelers…
Ignore the troll as it is not capable of rational discourse.
Ok, this is getting stupid. I’m dropping thread.
The ADL chooses causes according to it’s own heart and agenda. This includes the so-called Jewish Holocaust [TM], homosexuality, pedophilia and the anthropomorphic global warming hoax. At first glance the list seems disparate but the connection is simple. They all have Banksters behind them.
Aanthanur DC says:
February 28, 2014 at 6:03 pm
explain, how am i irrational?
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much of the data on land use and UHI comes from work done by the host of this blog documenting micro climate effects on temperature recording stations.
I’m a bit surprised to see how many of you [still] cling to the discredited Global Warming hoax. People for God’s sake get out a little, go do a bit of open minded research. Lately a number of things have happened to end this hoax and send many of its perpetrators to prison for fraud. It’s over guys, it only seems to be still real because the media hasn;t let go of it yet. That is because of who is behind the media. The data was all fraudulent, the models have failed, the people who mounted law suites against them have won and law suites by Warmists have failed. I tell you wake up! Even with the current corrupt paradigm where few big criminals have anything to fear, the Warmist gang are headed for major trouble. You’re following a dead horse which is why it feels like you’re getting nowhere. Yes the climate is changing, only a cretin would deny it but there isn’t any particular action of men unless it is deliberate engineering which is involved. The climate has always been changing and evidence shows it may be entering a cooling phase and that should have you worried. Warming by a few degrees = good; cooling by a few degrees = bad. That’s the facts.
Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore testified before a Senate committee this week that any link between human emissions and global warming is dubious at best: “There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years.” He added, “Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species. There is ample reason to believe that a sharp cooling of the climate would bring disastrous results for human civilization.”
In keeping with the new ADL sheriff’s methods who has made your cause his own, I suppose former warmists like Patrick Moore shall be referred to as “Self Hating Warmists” rather than an actual [snip]?
Take away is ADL was an important organization with serious purpose. Now it’s just a mendacious pressure group.
Poptech says:
February 28, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Wow. Just wow! What a helluva blockbuster post. Thanks for the link…and well done to the folks at Popular Technology.net
That post is Drudgeworthy.
[The mods appreciate your smile as you said that. 8<) Mod]
Mods, I was pre med and 15 going on 16 years old in general physics in summer school at university. ….engineers…..everywhere,,, Please God help me ….:)
Jim Bo wrote, “Poptech says: ‘Over 20 quotes that the ADL ignores, Skeptics Smeared As Holocaust Deniers, ADL Silent‘
Wow. Just wow! What a helluva blockbuster post. Thanks for the link…and well done to the folks at Popular Technology.net. That post is Drudgeworthy.”
Yep. But that’s just what PopTech does. Have you seen these?
1970s Global Cooling Alarmism (100 articles from the 1970s about the threat of global cooling):
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html
1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarm
http://www.populartechnology.net/2009/10/peer-reviewed-papers-supporting.html
If anyone is deserving of the title, “Official Archivist of the Climate Rationalism Movement,”, it is Andrew and his team at Popular Technology.
Yep. But that’s just what PopTech does
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He’s a wingnut who should have been banned from WUWT for his seriously unhinged attacks on Willis E. here at WUWT. He has neither the education or credentials to be taken seriously.
Poptech says: February 28, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Skeptics Smeared As Holocaust Deniers,
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You have nerve poptech …what about your smears of Willis on your blog?
What exactly are your qualifications eg, education and experience?
@Dave Burton February 28, 2014 at 3:40 pm Many thanks to you for saving that Yahoo cache! Despite knowing better on snagging screencaptures with other AGW folks I’ve jousted with (e.g. a prominent foundation illustrated here http://ow.ly/tmCgT ), I thought the ADL was above deleting comments, so I didn’t bother to get one.
Well, Richard, I’m sadder now than I was before I read your comment.
I didn’t know what you were talking about. In fact, I hadn’t realized that PopTech & Willis quarreled, but Google found it for me.
It’s a shame. Neither of them is perfect, or infallible, of course, but I greatly admire both of them.
Willis is a careful, original thinker, and a marvelous writer. I’ve argued with him, respectfully, myself, but he is always interesting, and always worth reading. He reminds me a bit of Feynman.
Andrew is a wonderfully methodical and thorough archivist of climate-related information. His various lists are indispensable resources to anyone interested in climate skepticism. It is disconcerting that he showed a striking lack of patience in his argument with Willis, since it obviously required a huge amount of patience to catalog the information in his lists.
Both Willis and Andrew have contributed greatly to the field of climatology, each in his own way. I wish they were friends.