An Open Letter to CNN's Carol Costello on 'Why are we still debating climate change?'

Carol Costello
Carol Costello

The answer to your question is in your article.

Guest opinion by David Hoffer

Carol, in your recent CNN opinion piece, the headline was Why are we still debating climate change?”. The very first statement in the article that followed was “There is no debate”.

The answer to your question is actually right in your own article. I’ll get to that in a bit, please bear with me. I wanted to touch on your claim that there is no debate first. I’d like you to consider the following statement, which I provide with no intent of malice whatsoever, only as a means of making a point.

Carol Costello is stupid. There is no debate.

Now what would you think if you saw this in print, followed by a long explanation as to what is wrong with people who don’t agree, and a refusal to examine any facts related to the accusation? I imagine you’d be miffed. I imagine also that any examination of the facts would prove me wrong, I seriously doubt that such a statement would stand up to any fair debate of the matter. Which brings me to a question Carol:

If the facts supporting Climate Change are so obvious, should not debating the facts of the matter strengthen those facts? Just as you would be eager to prove that you are not, in fact, stupid, should you not be equally as eager to prove your opinion by engaging in factual debate?

While you ponder that, and keeping in mind that I did say the answer to your question is in your article and I would get to that, let’s examine the only fact upon which your argument rests, which is that there is a consensus among 97% of scientists. Well Carol, I read that study. Did you? I’m guessing not.

Carol, that study was done by Margaret Zimerman, who sent the survey to 10,257 Earth Scientists. Of those, 3,146 responded. Of those, Ms. Zimmerman excluded all but 77. That fact alone should have your journalistic instincts on high alert. But it gets worse. The two questions which lead to the 97% finding were:

Q1: “When compared with pre-1800s levels, do you think that mean global temperatures have generally risen, fallen, or remained relatively constant?”   76 of 79 (96.2%) answered “risen.”

Q2: “Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?”   75 of 77 (97.4%) answered “yes.”

The problem here Carol is that they should have gotten 100% to both questions. The earth has been warming since the Little Ice Age which was 400 years ago. So obviously the answer to the first question would be “risen” even if human influence was zero. As for the second question, you may be surprised to learn that all but a tiny fraction of skeptics agree that rising temperatures are, in part, due to human activity. You see Carol, the debate about climate change is not a simple matter of “yes” or “no”. It is much more nuanced than that. There are questions relating to order of magnitude of change, endangerment related to any change that does occur, and in regard to strategies of mitigation versus adaptation. That study did nothing to determine consensus opinion on any of the central matters of the climate debate. It is not only contrived, but nearly meaningless. But I digress.

You go on to quote studies categorizing the population. I said I’d show you the answer to your headline question in your own article. Well, here it is. Your article goes on to quote results from Anthony Leiserowitz, who categorizes the population as follows:

  • Alarmed (16%)
  • Concerned (27%)
  • Cautious (23%)
  • Disengaged (5%)
  • Doubtful (12%)
  • Dismissive (15%)

Well that hardly seems like a consensus. In fact you go on to claim that the Dismissives are a powerful, well funded, well organized lobby group who are muddying the debate. Well Carol, if the facts are so powerfully on one side of the debate, why begin your opinion piece by categorically insisting that there is no debate? If there is no debate, how is it that only 16% of the citizenry are alarmed? Why, by the definitions in your own article, do 82% of the people think that climate change is something that won’t, for various reasons, have a direct effect on their lives?

But most importantly Carol, if you want to change their minds, would not an open and honest debate of the facts be your most powerful weapon? Are you going to let me accuse you of being stupid, or would you like to prove me wrong?

Lastly Carol, you sum up your article on this statement:

“The good news is, those uninformed minority voices are being quieted by nature and by those who have powerful voices.”

Well Carol, on that second point, I will allow that you are correct. Powerful voices (like yours) are eager to stifle the debate. Oddly, your own article points out the importance of having one if you want the facts as you see them to prevail. Will you use your powerful voice to that end? Or shall we call you stupid, insist there is no debating the matter, and call it a day?

But more importantly Carol, the first part of your statement is wrong. It is a simple matter to see that when one looks at the data, all the predictions of the “consensus” science have failed. Arctic ice retreat has stopped, and Antarctic ice has hit record levels. On a global basis, hurricanes and tornadoes have declined in both frequency and severity. According to the temperature records kept by the “consensus” scientist themselves, the earth hasn’t warmed in close to two decades, despite ever rising levels of CO2. Nature in fact is taking sides in this debate, and not the side you seem to think.

Even the United Nations IPCC, which is consensus climate science central for the world, now admits in their recent report (IPCC AR5) that the climate models themselves are wrong. It is their expert opinion that sensitivity to CO2 lies well below the model estimates. What are the models based upon Carol, if not the science? And if the best scientists in the world, in their capacity as advisors to the United Nations and world governments alike, are collectively stating that the models and the science the models are built on are in doubt, does that not deserve public debate?

Even among the “consensus” scientists themselves Carol, there is now considerable doubt about the science. Does that not give you pause to reconsider your position?

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climatebeagle
February 26, 2014 6:30 am

We should embrace her position, and then ask her to start a campaign in these hard times to stop funding research into climate science. The science is settled, thus no more research is needed.

Frank K.
February 26, 2014 6:34 am

Manfred says:
February 26, 2014 at 1:57 am
“Does anyone still watch CNN ?”
No.
“February cable ratings are in – Piers Morgan may be out at CNN, but what about the rest of the network’s primetime, which looked none too good for the month, all losing around half their audience compared to same month last year? ”
http://www.deadline.com/2014/02/february-cable-news-numbers-fnc-logs-146th-consecutive-win-cnn-tumbles-msnbc-hangs-on/

climatebeagle
February 26, 2014 6:35 am

MishaBurnett, why limit to predictions in the last twenty years, has there been a single correct prediction from climate science related to AGW?

February 26, 2014 6:38 am

Well, at least Ms. Costello presents as ‘weird’…as opposed to that breathless egomaniac Wolf Spritzer, or his recently down-dressed colleague Piers Moregoon. Most trusted name in news? News has a name?

Owen
February 26, 2014 6:43 am

CNN is a joke. People don’t work there unless their IQ is below normal. Don’t expect her or anyone else at CNN to change their progressive little minds.

Bruce Cobb
February 26, 2014 6:43 am

The evidence does appear overwhelming. Based on the video and on her opinion piece, Carol Costello is an idiot.

eyesonu
February 26, 2014 6:53 am

David Hoffer,
Excellent essay/open letter.

February 26, 2014 6:55 am

“Does that not give you pause to reconsider your position?”
That’s not how TV news or opinion works. The pretty faces are given the script from above.

February 26, 2014 6:57 am

Just as you would be eager to prove that you are not, in fact, stupid,
Well, that assumes that, at least in some areas, she isn’t stupid, in which case she probably wouldn’t be smart enough to want to prove that she isn’t.
Hey, “stupid is as stupid does”, you know.
Much of her article is parroting http://environment.yale.edu/climate-communication/article/Six-Americas-September-2012 (Global Warming’s Six Americas).
Although she does quote Sen. Ted Cruz:
“And just last week, tea party favorite Sen. Ted Cruz told CNN’s Dana Bash, “Climate change, as they have defined it, can never be disproved, because whether it gets hotter or whether it gets colder, whatever happens, they’ll say, well, it’s changing, so it proves our theory.””
Uh, yep, Cruz is correct. Perhaps if she actually read what Cruz said, she might have taken a different look at the non-existent debate. Although I suspect she never really pays attention to anyone who she terms a “tea party favorite”. Not American political left enough for her.

Stacey
February 26, 2014 7:05 am

Oh Carol you are but a fool
I’ll always debate with you
Though you treat me cruel

Tom J
February 26, 2014 7:07 am

D: Mommy, do you work for CNN?
M: Yes daughter, I do.
D: Is the Earth warming because of people?
M: Yes daughter, it is.
D: Why?
M: Because 97% of scientists say it is.
D: Mommy, why do 97% of scientists say it is?
M: Because it’s warming.
D: Why’s it warming?
M: Because 97% of scientists said so.
D: Mommy, why do 97%…
M: Because I said so.
D: Mommy, why did you…
M: Go to your room and quit arguing with your mother.
And thus was born the consensus of what 97% of scientists used to call global warming until 97% of scientists said the argument was over and that it’s now called climate change.

Eugene WR Gallun
February 26, 2014 7:09 am

climatebeagle 6:30am
Very clever! Funny! What’s not to like!
Eugene WR Gallun

Resourceguy
February 26, 2014 7:11 am

That is yet another example of no-cost positioning at CNN. Next up, Barney says the debate has ended and so do the Muppets and Ellen.

Eugene WR Gallun
February 26, 2014 7:14 am

Another great post! Fun to read and accurate! Keep up the good work!
Eugene WR Gallun

Robert of Prague
February 26, 2014 7:15 am

Here are my two centavos. First off, a bit of history. The AGW hoax’s begun in early ’70s as Global Cooling (by 2000 we’ll freeze & starve to death, was the claim), mostly by Swedish socialists. Since it didn’t happen, the AGW popped up & now the clever & unprovable ‘Climate Change.’
It’s been the agenda of the limo-libs & assorted Lefties & pinkoes for over 40 years. They’re all control freaks; the Elites are also greedy, on top of it. The ‘high-priest’ & mega-hypocrite, Algore’s made a cool-few-hundred0mio-$$$ on this hoax.
BTW, no one here mentioned the frozen Great Lakes & record deep freeze/snow in the NE. Nature does what & when it will. We, puny humans cannot change the weather/climate either way.
There are two main factors effecting climate. The solar flares ~11 y cycle, currently quiet.
This latter one is rarely mentioned. The precession & nutation of the Earth’s axis (full cone circumference in ~26000 years) is the cause of last Ice Age & all long term real climate swings.
5000 years ago, Sahara was a lush garden, I rest my case.
I am a geologist/geophysicist from a family of generations of exact science people.

February 26, 2014 7:22 am

[Bruce Cobb says:
February 26, 2014 at 4:01 am
“As for the second question, you may be surprised to learn that all but a tiny fraction of skeptics agree that rising temperatures are, in part, due to human activity.”
Um, no. That is a statement of belief, not fact. There is no evidence that “human activity” is in any way responsible for the some 20-year warming period from the late 70′s to the late 90′s. The phrase “human activity” itself is a waffle phrase. Obviously, humans can affect temperatures locally, due to UHI and other ways, but that is separate from the issue of “global warming”. The phrase “in part” is also waffling. If one were to spit in the ocean, one could truthfully say that one was “in part” responsible for warming the ocean.]
This is nuanced, because it’s about the incremental warming not the net warming. The logic statements would be:
(1) Humans are adding to C02 concentrations in the atmosphere and
(2) Higher incremental C02 concentrations cause incremental warming trhough the GHG effect
Note that this can be true even if the NET C02 levels are falling and if the NET temperatures are falling. The logic being that that C02 levels are not falling AS MUCH as they would have and/or that the Temps are not falling AS MUCH as they would have, and so as long as one believes the two statements above (which I think are pretty valid) one would have to believe that we are adding a non-zero amount of warming (or at least reducing the amount of cooling). I personally don’t think we are affecting it that much, but to argue that we have zero effect would be to disagree with one of the two statements above I believe.

February 26, 2014 7:23 am

Does Ms. Costello believe the climate shouldn’t change and remain static? Does she believe it can be controlled? Does she mean global warming and is misusing the term climate change?

Jim Happ
February 26, 2014 7:24 am

She is only guilty of thinking the way people she respects told her to think. I don’t fault her at all. I would have asked her to look at some actual vs predicted temperatures.

timg56
February 26, 2014 7:28 am

I’d argue this is a waste of time.
Has anyone checked on the course load of uyour average journalism major? If one were to wager on the most recent date Carol had her butt seated in a class covering math, engineering or the hard sciences, my pick would be high school.

Paul Westhaver
February 26, 2014 7:55 am

What is CNN?

more soylent green!
February 26, 2014 8:01 am

Ed Zuiderwijk says:
February 26, 2014 at 1:52 am
The answer to the last question is simply: no.
Not because she is stupid, but because she is a coward. Answering: yes would imply that everything she believed in for the past decades could have been wrong.
And she doesn’t dare to contemplate that possibility.

How would Carol Costello face all her friends at those cocktail parties and dinner parties if she re-examined the facts and changed her position? Why, she’d be shunned. You don’t want her to be shunned, do you? It’s not fair that she wouldn’t be able to enjoy the company of the other beautiful, right-thinking people just on the principle that opinion and beliefs are subject to arbitrary facts.
Don’t be shunned, Carol!

Bruce Cobb
February 26, 2014 8:05 am

Dan Tauke says:
February 26, 2014 at 7:22 am
I never said the effect was zero, just that the evidence for a human effect or the “human fingerprint” simply isn’t there. In other words if it does exist, it is too small to matter. One can talk about how there “should” be an effect all one wants to. But, if you can’t point to it, then it is simply conjecture.

February 26, 2014 8:05 am

This is the most disturbing quote:
“The good news is, those uninformed minority voices are being quieted by nature and by those who have powerful voices.”
Why is it “good” to quiet a minority?
Why is it “good” to have powerful voices?
Why is a minority being demonized as “uninformed?”
The answers have already been stated. MSM is an arm of the new world order. Absolute power with absolute authority. Is it no different that Stalin making a proclamation prior to a “minority” being “dispatched.” ???
CNN is another MSNBC agency to the elitist greed coming from those in power. The above quote is the future cast for humanity, regardless of climate.

M. Hastings
February 26, 2014 8:08 am

Reading the comments following her article its easy to see how many people thought, as I did, how stupid the article was. All her article did was to lose even more viewers for CNN.

DirkH
February 26, 2014 8:11 am

highflight56433 says:
February 26, 2014 at 8:05 am
“This is the most disturbing quote:
“The good news is, those uninformed minority voices are being quieted by nature and by those who have powerful voices.””
The powerful voice of CNN, that is.
Reminds one of that immortal quote, What have you done, you cursed brat. I’m melting, melting!