Olympic athletes just won’t know what snow is (with apologies to Dr. David Viner)
With the winter Olympics taking center stage of world media right now it of course becomes a potential on-camera political opportunity for anybody with an idea and a sandwich board. So, predictably, somebody tried to make the winter Olympics all about “climate change”….and failed. Nutty Bill McKibben gave his endorsement:
There’s only one teensy little problem…
Here’s the plea from an organization called protectourwinters.org
US SKI TEAM MEMBER ANDREW NEWELL & 105 WINTER OLYMPIANS CALL FOR CLIMATE ACTION
Today, US Ski Team member, 2014 Olympian Andrew Newell, 105 Olympians and Protect Our Winters released a statement calling on world leaders to take action on climate change and to prepare a commitment to a global agreement prior to the Paris climate talks in 2015.The letter has been signed by 105 Olympians from countries that include: The United States, Switzerland, Norway, Estonia, Canada, Australia, Germany, France, Italy and Sweden. In addition to Newell, some of the 105 athletes include: US snowboarders Danny Davis and Arielle Gold, Switzerland’s Bettina Gruber, Norway’s Astrid Jacobsen and Italian ski jumper Elena Runggaldier.“Recognize climate change by reducing emissions, embracing clean energy and preparing a commitment to a global agreement at the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change in Paris 2015.”
– See more at: http://protectourwinters.org/newell-2890#sthash.BxRf5tN0.dpuf
Among other things, it seems they are whining about the lack of snow at Sochi, a place where palm trees grow and climatically not that great of a place for a winter Olympics, but has been “geoengineered” as this news story tells us:
Freezing Sochi: how Russia turned a subtropical beach into a Winter Olympics wonderland
Sochi is not the most obvious place to host the Winter Olympics.
The Russian resort, on the eastern shore of the Black Sea, is humid and subtropical. Temperatures average out at about 52 degrees Fahrenheit in the winter, and 75 degrees in the summer. Palm trees line the streets, and it’s the only part of Russia warm enough to grow tea leaves. In other words, it’s a lovely spot if you’re planning a beach holiday — Stalin had his favorite summer house there — but it wouldn’t be most people’s first choice for a ski trip.
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So it shouldn’t come as much surprise that transforming Rosa Khutor into an Olympic venue has been a rapid, expensive process. It’s estimated that the cost of staging the Olympics in Sochi has been greater than the previous three Winter Games combined — ballooning to a whopping $51 billion. A sizable chunk of that money has gone to dealing with the “whims of the weather,” as a spokesperson for Sochi 2014 put it in an email to The Verge.
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“There is almost no snow here — at the moment it’s raining,” says Olga Mironova, a local resident. That’s exactly the problem that derailed the last Winter Olympics in Vancouver in 2010 — buckets of snow had to be airlifted to top up the slushy covering on the hay bales that were being used to create artificial mounds in the tracks. Those emergency measures proved successful, but organizers admitted afterwards that they’d seriously underestimated the impact of climate change.
Apparently ‘climate change’ jumped in and made them choose a ridiculous venue at Sochi. Oy vey!
After McKibben made his tweet of support, a count of the list presented at http://protectourwinters.org was made, and summed up in this riposte:
105/2500 *100 = 4.2%
I can’t imagine why any athlete would want to be concerned with a political agenda that might deflect their concentration from the greatest moment of their lives. I’m surprised that even 4.2% of the winter Olympic athletes bothered.
Meanwhile, back in la-la land, we have this plea from Olympian organizer Andrew Newell
This year, while preparing for my third Olympic games in Sochi I had to ask myself: what’s changed? What has changed since that day in 1985 when I first experienced that thrill and came to love this sport? Thankfully, much is the same except there is no escaping that the once-consistent winters that I saw as a young kid are no more, especially near my home in Vermont.
Of course most of us know that athletes generally aren’t very smart when it comes to things outside their narrow field of expertise and training, but you’d think this “climatic community organizer” who says we have to “protect our winters” would at lease be able to do these two things:
1. Check the expected climatic conditions of Sochi
From Capital Weather Gang: The Games are being held during a stretch of the coastal city’s coldest winter stretch, with a daily average high of 49 degrees and low of 36 degrees Fahrenheit. Remarkably, Sochi’s daily average temperature values never drop below freezing at any time of the year. According to NASA, it’s the warmest host city for any winter Olympic games.

The daily average low (blue) and high (red) temperature with percentile bands (inner band from 25th to 75th percentile, outer band from 10th to 90th percentile. (WeatherSpark)
2. Check the weather report back home and snow depth in his home town of Bennington, Vermont:
Source: http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=bb3a19e9321d2bc0&hl=en&gl=US&source=web
Source: http://www.weatherstreet.com/city_snow_depth/05201-Bennington-VT-snow-depth.htm
Eh, maybe not.
It seems the winter snow extent trend is on the rise in Northern hemisphere, from Rutgers snow lab:
Source: http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_seasonal.php?ui_set=nhland&ui_season=1
So tell me again, why do our winters need protection?
UPDATE: Dr. Luboš Motl weighs in: Sochi, swimming, climate, activism
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Jonathan Edwards, ex-Olympic athlete and one of the BBC’s reporters in Sochi, confided in us to camera with a big chuckle that the cameraman was wearing shorts…
So tell me again, why do our winters need protection?
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Because Nutty Bill McKibben is pro-glaciation?
I can’t think of any other reason for anyone to prefer cold vs warmth.
Also Nutty Bill McKibben seems to be pro-mass extinction.
When CO2 drops below 300 ppm plants cannot maintain the O2.
Looks like we’ll have to host the next Winter Olympics in Miami, Florida, to “prove” that a warming climate is driving these events to extinction!
A photograph of Sochi Palm trees:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/express/wp/2014/01/15/palm-trees-at-the-winter-olympics-in-sochi-russia-sure-why-not/
This is perfect – here McKibben is worrying about “climate change” at Sochi, while everyone who’s there realizes that what they REALLY have to worry about is having drinkable water and working toilets.
Andrew Newell bemoans his opinion that winters have got warmer and need to be protected, but at the same time condones holding this years Winter Olympics in a sub- tropical destination, requiring import or manufacture of snow and ice. The CO2 production of creating and maintaining this artificial environment must be huge.
This iyet more proof, if any were needed that AGW and hypocrisy go hand in hand.
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Actually, a state south of the Mason Dixon line would have done well this year with a winter Olympics venue. Snow happens more often there than in Sochi!
Its darn cold here in Hong Kong – down to 4 to 5 centigrade last night – hold the next winter olympics here!
http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/ts/index.htm
Maybe the Russians know there is a global cooling period on its way 😉
Right now (8:30 AM), the temperature in Bennington, Vermont is -9 F. East coast winter storm hits tomorrow…
Why does Mckibben continue his efforts to convince me he is an Idiot? He has already succeeded.
Meanwhile, in the sunny south…
Historic Ice Storm Unfolds in South; Lengthy Power Outages Possible
With a major winter storm unfolding over the South, snow and ice will severely impact travelers and residents from Louisiana to the Carolinas through midweek.
The event could be the worst ice storm for parts of the South in more than 10 years.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/ice-storm-begins-to-unfold-in/23186487
Not that anyone ought to give a fig, but right here in the comments of WUWT last month, I posted the idea that if cold air blobs spin OUT of the North Pole to the West, then warmer air must get sucked INTO the North Pole from the East to replace it. Duh.
I snowmobile in Vermont. Here is what our club posted on Facebook:
“Today is Monday, February 10th and this is the updated trail report for the Brighton Snowmobile Club.
Trails in and around the downtown area are being reported as good; the mountain riding is being reported as very good to excellent! This is the best riding we’ve had in the last 3 years so come up and enjoy it with us.”
[more snow and cold in the forecast]
Tom Wysmuller says: @ur momisugly February 12, 2014 at 5:19 am
Looks like we’ll have to host the next Winter Olympics in Miami, Florida, to “prove” that a warming climate is driving these events to extinction!
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YES! Even Fayettville NC is too cold compared to Sochi.
Min Temperature – 28 °F(today) Avg low = 35 °F Record low – 10 °F (1973) for February 12.
Meanwhile I got on the NASA GISS site the other day to see if they had updated their local station data for January 2014. I first downloaded their data in February 2009. Well the local station data for January 2014 is not up yet but what I found was much more disturbing. I only downloaded data for the Toledo Express Airport in 2009 and now that data is completely different in 2014. Sometime in the past 5 years they have completely fudged the numbers. Early 1880’s data was downgraded by .5 degrees, Early 1900’s data was downgraded by .2 degrees. By 1980 the data was raised by .4 degrees. So the disparity from 1880 to 1980 since 2009 had grown by .9 degrees at the Toledo Airport. WOW, Amazing. And here I thought Data was set in stone. Not at NASA where they artificially just created a .9 degree rise in temperature for the years 1880 to 1980 at the Toledo Airport. Not the slope was negative for those years in 2009. Now in 2014 the slope is level. Amazing stuff.
wws says: @ur momisugly February 12, 2014 at 5:24 am
Not to mention terrorists blowing things up.
If one recalls a quote from Esper
“the ability to pick and choose which samples to use is an advantage unique to dendroclimatology”
Then we can throw out 2392 of the Olympians as being unsuitable, leaving 108
Therefore 105/108 = 97% consensus! Simple!
That’s how climate “scientist” do proper statistics!
Pamela Gray says: @ur momisugly February 12, 2014 at 5:27 am
Actually, a state south of the Mason Dixon line would have done well this year…
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Yes! Here is the North Carolina Ski Report
Example
Sugar Mtn – 50-100inches of Packed Powder base, with 6 out of 7 lifts open, 20 out of 21 runs open.
Weather=Snow and the temp = 18 F on 2014-02-11 21:30:00
Frank K. says: @ur momisugly February 12, 2014 at 5:38 am
Right now (8:30 AM), the temperature in Bennington, Vermont is -9 F. East coast winter storm hits tomorrow…
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It already hit here in Mid NC. @ur momisugly noon yesterday. We have snow on the ground and 28 °F, Snow, ice pellets and freezing rain forecast for the next few days. YUCK!, I would prefer straight snow.
I WANT my GOREBULL WARMING NOW! (Said in the whiny voice of a four year old)
First off, I’d like to see a 25 -35 year chart of snow depths at places like Stowe & Mt. Snow, VT. I did plenty of skiing at those places and others in New England myself over the last 4 decades and while there were a few years with not a heck of a lot of snow, there were many more with incredible amounts and of course even more with about ‘average’ snowfalls. Absent a visual record I’d still call Mr. Newell a liar as he chooses to recall his disappointment in those snow-sparse years rather than the ‘thrill of victory’ during the years of over abundant snowfall.
Also, why are Olympians chiming in on something they know absolutely nothing about except for the fact that they need cold & snow to perform? I’d like to know how many of these winter weather experts even took an Earth Science class in high school or paid attention if they did. Maybe they were too busy thinking about their training. I wonder how many of them know their geography and think that just because they’re in Russia it’s supposed to be cold?
Finally, given some of the recent choices of the IOC, I wonder if there is (or what it is) a deeper agenda as these people can’t possibly be so stupid as to think that Sochi is a winter resort ideally located to host a Winter Olympic Games.
The Wiki entry says
“The Rosa Khutor Alpine Resort (Russian: Ро́за Ху́тор, tr. Roza Khutor) is an alpine ski resort in Krasnodar Krai, Russia, located at the Aibiga Ridge of the Western Caucasus along the Roza Khutor plateau near Krasnaya Polyana. Constructed from 2003 to 2011, it is hosting the alpine skiing events for the 2014 Winter Olympics and Paralympics, based in nearby Sochi. The resort is 50 kilometers (31 mi) from the Black Sea at Sochi; the majority of the slopes at Rosa Khutor face northeast, with the backside slopes facing southwest.
However, more relevant is:
“The highest lift is the Caucasus Express gondola, which climbs to the summit of Roza Peak at 2,320 meters (7,610 ft). The main base area for skiing is at Roza Plateau at 1,170 meters (3,840 ft), a vertical drop of 1,150 meters (3,770 ft) from the summit.
Here’s the effect of the altitude:
http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/weather/temperaturemap.aspx?resort=Sochi-Rosa-Khutor&swqsResortGo=Go
It’s not so much “where it is” as “how high it is”.
If you want to guarantee the snow you have to find a mountain high enough. Given recent climate trends, Mount Erebus anyone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountains_in_Antarctica
@ur momisugly Gail Combs
But we got a climate hub! Horay!
http://globalchange.ncsu.edu/serch/
(sigh)
Why oh why complain about a lack of snow? We have been informed that there is no need to worry because the MELTING ARCTIC CAUSES MORE SNOW to fall in the northern hemisphere. Having your cake and eat it? As has been pointed out above the winter trend for winter snow in the northern hemisphere is UP since 1967. What is wrong with these people?
“Most Ever Snow at Scottish Ski Area
Snow Report | 11 February 2014 ”
http://www.inthesnow.com/snow-report/ever-snow-scottish-ski-area/
The 1928 Winter Olympic games in St Moritz, Switzerland were warmer. Though there was a blizzard during the opening ceremonies, it warmed up rapidly from there. Temperatures hit 77F, melting the ice and causing the cancellation of the 10K speed skating race.
This was 85 years earlier, 3 degrees latitude farther north and 3,000 feet higher than the Sochi ski venue at Rosa Khutor. St Moritz also sits a couple hundred miles inland, whereas Rosa Khutor is only about 25 miles from the coast of the Black Sea. Oh, and it was about 100 ppm lower atmospheric CO2 in St Moritz, as well… well below McWeepy’s proposed target.