On our Friday Funny, which pointed out that Dr. Michael Mann labeled Greenpeace co-founder Dr. Patrick Moore as a “garden variety troll”, we thought it was funny that Dr. Mann couldn’t make the connection to who he was labeling. But then, something funny happened on the way to the forum; we discovered that Greenpeace had been actively erasing Dr. Moore from their history page.
It’s just like the famous communist propaganda photo series The Commissar Vanishes
Thank goodness for the Wayback machine.
From a comment:
CaligulaJones says: January 24, 2014 at 8:54 am
” David Sanger (@davidsanger) says:
January 24, 2014 at 8:22 am
Well certainly Greenpeace does not think that Patrick Moore was a “co-founder of Greenpeace.”
Unfortunately for the Peas, this is 2014, not 1984, where unpeople are memory-holed:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/history/founders
http://web.archive.org/web/20021119050900/http://www.greenpeace.org.au/aboutus/founders.html
And here are the screencaps of those two pages, note that five people in one photo are reduced to three in the later one.
From 2002, five people:
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20021119050900/http://www.greenpeace.org.au/aboutus/founders.html
From 2005, five people:
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20051216000251/http://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/history/founders
From today, just three people:
Source: http://www.greenpeace.org/international/about/history/founders
And even Wikipedia notices the effort to erase Dr. Moore. From this comment (bold mine):
alex says: January 24, 2014 at 9:08 am
From Wiki:
Greenpeace[edit]
According to Greenpeace: How a Group of Ecologists, Journalists, and Visionaries Changed the World by Rex Wyler, the Don’t Make a Wave Committee was formed in January 1970 by Dorothy and Irving Stowe, Ben Metcalfe, Marie and Jim Bohlen, Paul Cote, and Bob Hunter and incorporated in October 1970.[6] The Committee had formed to plan opposition to the testing of a one megaton hydrogen bomb in 1969 by the United States Atomic Energy Commission on Amchitka Island in the Aleutians. Moore joined the committee in 1971 and, as Greenpeace co-founder Bob Hunter wrote, “Moore was quickly accepted into the inner circle on the basis of his scientific background, his reputation [as an environmental activist], and his ability to inject practical, no-nonsense insights into the discussions.”[7] From as early as September 2005 until its alteration in March 2007, the Greenpeace International web site included Patrick Moore in a list of “founders and first members”.[8][9][10]
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So, Greenpeace is desperate to re-write their own history…
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_%28environmentalist%29#Greenpeace
Why would Greenpeace do such a thing, erasing a founding member?
It is likely because Dr. Patrick Moore has become a climate skeptic, and appeared in a skeptic film in 2007. From his Wikipedia page:
In 2005, Moore criticized what he saw as scare tactics and disinformation employed by some within the environmental movement, saying that the environmental movement “abandoned science and logic in favor of emotion and sensationalism.”[30] Moore contends that for the environmental movement “most of the really serious problems have been dealt with”, seeking now to “invent doom and gloom scenarios”.[31] He suggests they romanticise peasant life as part of an anti-industrial campaign to prevent development in less-developed countries, which he describes as “anti-human”.[32][33] Moore was interviewed in the 2007 film documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle, in which he expressed similar views. In 2007 The Guardian reported on his writings for the Royal Society arguing against the theory that mankind was causing global warming, noting his advocacy for the felling of tropical rainforests and the planting of genetically engineered crops.
And perhaps most infuriating to the greens, he advocates for improving the third world with the introduction of Golden Rice, which the GMO activists in Greenpeace see as an evil thing.
Since Greenpeace is now a multi-million dollar industry, we can’t have idealistic former founders mucking up what they want their donors to believe. I wonder how long it will be before we hear Greenpeace was actually founded by one person?



Zeke – Those rats … it was not so straightforward …
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/11/journal-retraction-of-seralini-gmo.html
http://corporateeurope.org/blog/industry-bullying-finally-worked-ralini-study-gm-maize-and-roundup-retracted
So when an article is bad for Monsanto, they move a Monsanto man into the journal and have it retracted. It all sounds a bit … climate sciencey to me.
Robin says: @ur momisugly January 25, 2014 at 11:41 am
mucking up what they want their donors to believe–it’s not just donors Anthony and the key word is in fact believe. Everything going on in education globally now (I have UNESCO’s blueprint and planned curricula and end beliefs and desired mindsets so I am not exaggerating) in K-12 plus higher ed plus law schools and business management schools (UN has founded PRME-Principles for Responsible Management Education) are all guided by altering beliefs to influence perception.
Reality can supposedly now be ignored unless it is politically compelling in desired ways because the theory goes if you can change beliefs and values you can alter the future reality. And that’s as concise a definition of what dialectical materialism really means as we are likely to find. GreenPeace is a huge part of gaining these transformative mindsets and skeptical founders are barriers to creating a uniformity in what is believed.
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That bears repeating because this is what we are dealing with. People who deny a reality separate from their beliefs exists. They think they own a pair of magic ruby slippers or something.
I kid you not I had to take a philosophy short course from one of these people at a management school. Professor Chris(tmas) Turkey is an outstanding example of this belief system and it almost got people killed.
This is a more formal explanation:
This is why there is so much emphasis on a ‘Consensus’ in climate science. This is why the IPCC mandate states:
The agreement that humans caused climate change was already part of the ‘Consensus’ This is the ‘synthesis’ and Den1ers are just not getting with the program and moving on to the next phase, the designing of a new economy. We are still stuck in the ‘struggle of thesis and antithesis’ to their way of thinking.
Remember John Dewey Father of Progressive Education? “Dewey’s philosophy had evolved from Hegelian idealism…” In 1896 Dewey created his famous experimental Laboratory School designed to show how education could be changed to produce little socialists and collectivists instead of little capitalists and individualists. It was expected that these little socialists, when they became voting adults, would dutifully change the American economic system into a socialist one.
It has been over one hundred years since Dewey experimented on children and changed our education system. We are all supposed to be brain washed and willing to accept ‘Global Governance’ but it is not working out that way.
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order….But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence.” – David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994.
Pascal Lamy former World Trade Organization Director-General repeats the idea HERE
Why interdependence? “Economic Interdependence and War: A Theory of Trade Expectations,” International Security, Vol. 20, no.4 (Spring 1996)
These people are really really scary in their hard headed belief that they control reality as Turney just demonstrated.
lurker, passing through laughing says: @ur momisugly January 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm
… The real lesson is that this is a human foible, not a facet of a specific ideology…
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Yes, the Salem MA witch trials come to mind. The problem is blind fanaticism.
So this makes me wonder which of the USA “Founders” would be disappeared if current members of our – – — – – could figure out how to accomplish such a thing. It does seem much easier to just ignore the principles and the Constitution they established.
The term watermelon never seemed more apt.
It is another example of how anything is now justified, in furtherance of ‘the cause.’
It really is getting quite disturbing now. We know that as reality moves against them they are getting even more strident in their defence and attacks on critics of their beliefs. (and beliefs it only is at this stage they have very little scientific PROOF that they are correct).
How far will it go? We know that when money and control (power) is concerned most anything will be done in furtherance of it.
They are currently in the power position and already have called for censorship and criminalisation of opposing opinions.
It will only get worse in my opinion if reality continues to move against them.
Alan
Politics is not a pillow fight. Greenpeace requires a response in kind by an organization dedicated to fighting fire with a legal blow torch. Same for the EDF, NRDC, and The Sierra Club.
Such organizations exist in the US although they are very small compared to their foes. They deserve our help.
Hia Gail
I feel it appropriate, given your Hegelian comment above, to provide this link by the Great Richard Feynman…..
Alan Bates says:
January 25, 2014 at 1:25 pm
“She had no response and left. I felt sorry she had been so mislead.”
Chuggers typically get 30% of the bait.
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Gail Combs,
In total agreement.
I add info on who were the philosophical precursors that Hegel needed to justify his philosophy. It [was] Kant on whose shoulders he stood. And it was Plato whose shoulders Kant stood on.
I addition Kant / Hegel led to the positivist movement in late 19th / early 20th century philosophy. And now what is called post modern philosophy stands on the positivist movements shoulders.
There is a legendary alternative to that succession of philosophies (that included Hegel). The alternate is a tradition that has an observed reality basis for epistemology and metaphysics; we all know who has been in that alternate tradition . . . . : )
John
My appologies in advance 😎
http://youtu.be/rNHkWrUcLvU
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Awhile ago I meant to to thank you for your defense of chlorine. Pathogens kill. Chlorine kills pathogens.
Where I live they are spending 100 million+ to meet the limits for disinfection byproducts.
What a waste.
Charlie Johnson (@SemperBanU) says:
January 25, 2014 at 11:13 am
Memory holes are to the 2010s as bomb shelters were to the 1950s.
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Definitely a sign of climate change.
Steve C, this isn’t my party.
Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Jan 19
@Greenpeace not only denies @Golden_Rice in Philippines, denies electricity for poor, supports fantasy wind, solar: http://goo.gl/SBmZAX
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Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow Jan 19
Perfect example of lies spread by anti-#GMO activists. Claim Bt cotton a failure and @MonsantoCo has seed monopoly: http://goo.gl/f9pPux
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The development of cotton which gives 5 times the yield of other varieties is not a disaster for Indian cotton farmers. You have been “media mind-bombed” by Greenpeace. Golden Rice would be a source of vit a for children on rice diets. Developing bodies need these micronutrients or blindness and early death results. That is why Patrick Moore works so hard to protest Greenpeace’s war on GMOs. Thank you.
“Greenpeace disappears a founder, much like ‘The Commissar Vanishes’ in Soviet Russia”
Reactionaries gonna react
http://i.imgur.com/fLg4Snk.png
h/t my son
According to Paul Watson they’ve done it before. To him.
http://www.seashepherd.org/who-we-are/paul-watson-and-greenpeace.html
This post should put the panties in a twist at Greenpeace.
Love it. LOL
My late mother had a simple old german saying which was meant in a family wealth sense but which I have found quite applicable to wide variety of organisations that I have come across in my 75 years;
It was;
“Clogs to clogs in three generations”.
The first generation creates and establishes.
The second generation knowing the ethos and aims and having lived in the founder’s shadow builds on that foundation.
The third generation now two generations and far removed from the founder’s ethos just looks at the accumulated wealth and influence and says, it’s all mine, and then promptly and figuratively pxxses the lot up against the wall.
Stalinist communism took 90 years, a bit more than three generations to completely disintegrate but it was only political and bureaucratic inertia that kept it going over the last couple of decades.
Of interest it appears that North Korea may also be going down the same path with the installation of the third generation and the real time elimination of the remnants of the second generation.
And that is the same path that Greenpeace and the other badly misnamed “environmental” watermelon organisations are now going down as they lose their very reason for being.
@Rom – The Soviet Union was literally saved by WWII. Had they been the aggressor, it probably would have stopped at 3 generations (or if no war had occurred).
But I have heard the 3rd generation theory before. Especially in terms of family owned companies. We just lost one in this area (it wisely sold out).
To ROM. In Finnish we have that same idea of three generations. The first generation builds, the second one uses and the third one destroys.
And let´s not forget this nice Polish saying; ” The future is certain, it is only the past that is unpredictable.”
Drymar – that’s awesome… is that the motto of the climate “scientists”? Totally appropriate
@Zeke
In America, you pollute the enviroment. In Soviet Russia, Enviroment pollutes YOU!
I remember a lecturer telling us in the Soviet high school that Greenpeace was the one of the best examples of Soviet financing of the useful groups undermining the “capitalist society” from within. The other examples were the Olympic Games Committee and ANC (Mandela).
nice to see my brother’s comment about his time on the Beluga, that they are all a bit fanatical, has stood the test of time.I dislike fanatics, for they are dangerous, whether in your face or behind your back. Meanwhile , back in the ’90s,I wrote
Golden Rice is twice as nice,
Or so the scientists say:
It prevents blindness in a thrice,
With its built-in vitamin A.
Important yet to their prognosis:
Will it prevent vitaminosis?
After all, they did recommend DDT & a multitude of other wonders for us to thrive by.
Yeah but look at the photos and the cunning re-wording. In the Wayback machine I see a photo of FIVE people, was one of them Moore? In the new page they say:
“The Founders of Greenpeace”……”Here are four of them” with no mention of Moore among the four. Also see their new page and compare it to the archive.
NEW PAGE.
ARCHIVED PAGE.
In the NEW PAGE they have provided a link to a book overview about Greenpeace.
http://rexweyler.com/greenpeace
No mention of Moore on the committee. He is described as Crew. As you can see he has been erased from the “Directors: Don’t Make A Wave Committee, 1970-71” yet made it to the 1970 version.
I went to the Internet Archive and looked for the earliest version of the page and indeed he is not on the committee BUT he was a member of Greenpeace when the committee was re-named Greenpeace. They say so themselves below: