Friday Funny – Mann Overboard!

jeremyp99 says:
January 24, 2014 at 9:09 am
@Alan Robertson says: January 24, 2014 at 8:54 am
What, no one has said it yet?
State pen, not Penn State.
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They have. Dr. Tim Ball said just that. Mann’s suing him.
Err, I think that’s what Alan was referring to.

Mann has met the enemy, and it is Man.

Pay no attention to the Mann behind the curtain….
Probably Patrick Moore caused him Mann-ic depression…
(oops, isn’t that bi-polar disorder now? oddly apropos as well)
(apologies to people with REAL issues, no insult intended…)

rabbit says:
January 24, 2014 at 8:51 am
“Officially the Greenpeace Foundation came into being in late 1971, and Moore was part of that.”
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I have a fond memory of Greenpeace and money …. due to an event that occurred at the Vancouver Airport in the late 70’s. I was part of group of 6 that was returning from a 3-week hunting trip in the British Columbia bush, somewhere north of the Finley River area and we were waiting for our flight departure for Toronto.
There were dozens n’ dozens of hunters at the airport, some like us returning from hunts and some embarking on their hunts. Anyway, Greenpeace was there in all its protesting glory, and of course the News media …. and us big game hunters were the primary reason for their staged protest at the airport.
A member of my group got really perturbed that they would even think of protesting our hunting and told us he was going over to that dapper looking gentleman who appeared to be in charge and give him a piece of his mind, and he went. And we could see Hans talking to the “boss” man and soon he came back with a puzzled look on his face and sat down, but didn’t say a word. Finally one of us asked him “What did he say, Hans, what did he say”?
Hans thought about it for a few seconds and then told us that after he had chewed that dude out real severely like …. that the dapper dude looked him straight in the eyes and told him, …..’Listen you, … I’m President of Greenpeace … and they pay me one hell of a lot of money for doing a job, ….. and by damn I’m doing that job”.
Then Hans said, …… “What could I say after that”?
And “no”, I do not know what his name was.
Cheers

Interesting comment Alex Avery. I was one of the “10,000” at the US/Canadian border and still have some clippings of information for and against the Amchitka nuclear test in an old folder. Green Peace didn’t exist yet, but all the characters were about including David Suzuki. Someone arranged to bus students from Universities and schools in the Greater Vancouver area to the Peace Arch at the border. As I recall, it was a nice sunny day, and quite a party. A lot of people subsequently followed the folks who organized this protest. It was one of those rare times when the government, the populace, and the activists were united in their concerns given that we are often told that someday a good part of Vancouver (especially the North Shore) might get shaken into the Ocean and the communities of Delta and Richmond may sink into the river muck /bog/ex-farmland upon which they are built and completely disappear. Always interesting to follow write ups on Hunter, Moore and Watson. Some of their beliefs are coincident with the beliefs of a large portion of the public (stop the Japanese[also Norway, Iceland, Denmark] whaling, stop the Danish slaughter of dolphins etc.). However, Green Peace itself seems to have been hijacked. Some of the “activists” that have left to focus on selective environmental issues that industry and government can buy into are having some success. It takes time to turn an aircraft carrier.
Good article, brought back lots of memories. Thanks.

” Olavi says:
January 24, 2014 at 8:17 am
I’ll think M. Mann is wery soon wery lone person. Nobody want’s to be mentioned at the same time with him. Poor bastard, he should go to therapy.”
What if he’s already been through therapy and his current state is the best achievable outcome? 🙂

It would be fantastic Mann sued for defamation, then we could finally have a court decide if what he did was fraudulent or not. This reminds me of a case recently where a number of bloggers taunted our former Prime Minister about their corrupt and illegal behaviour as a union lawyer which led to them being fired from the law firm at which they worked prior to their career in politics, followed by a large cover up involving many senior members and current politicians in the political party, as well as people who’ve subsequently been rewarded through judicial postings and other plum jobs. No court case was brought – it wouldn’t have won on the basis that the comments were essentially based in fact, and the case would have exposed the whole rotten and corrupt underbelly of that side of politics. The corrupt individual got so upset that they even named one of the bloggers in one of their many unhinged outbursts in parliament. In this case, the corrupt person effectively muzzled the media through threats to introduce media censorship laws (a natural tendancy anyway for leftists). Luckily Mr Mann doesn’t have such power at his disposal.

Dr. Anthony Watts
and to all and everyone:
Mann with the pile I call him, because it is not a hockeystick, it is a Pile. Can`t you see that?
“Mann med ljåen” we call him, where Ljå = Pile.
Because I never believe in the experts not even Bjerknes, but I examine his methods and his waterbaths,
I have also carefully examined the construction elements of that fameous pile or “hockeystick” as you falsely call it.
The blade is in order. Allthough he never visited Norway, he has got with him local history and rumors here,. that can be examined in detail by other elements, different from what Mann has used. The “haid the declain” is a silly vulgar rumor argument just betraying yourself of your own ignorance. You hardly learnt how to check it up with reality.
We have here the ice history on Lake Mjøsa and in the Oslofjord for the last 150 years, the ski- sport ski- jumping and cross country skiing history,, and the history of gardening and we have old photographs, The blade of that pile of that Mann seems in order.
Then the shaft to it, that the Mann has made of crooky and choisest naturally grown wood from the rocky mountains and the north american continent and with only a quite few controls for the rest ofthe world. the quite extreemly important mideival document
What Michael Mann has told of the rumorous “warm mideival time” is seemingly approximately right, according to what I could be able to check up.
There we have the SAGA and its mentioning of seasonal weathers and ices, place datum. When did King Halvdan plunge through the ice on lake Randsfjorden with his men and horses?
Further we have the quite extreemly fameous document SPECVLVM REGALE or Konungs skuggsjao ( clear evidence of global recognition and consciousness and elementary physical and geophysical understanding of the worlds climates allthough in a geocentric universe), a document that is most probably stated at the Arch Bishop See and Castle of Nidaros ( Today NTNU Trondheim.no) at about 1220-1250.
Giving very solid and practical evidence and explainations of the climate and eventual fogs and ices and snows on Island and near Grønland, where the arch bishop of Nidaros was in charge. Having also left very accurate cronicles in detail of the bishops of both Holar, Skålholt, and Gardar, whether they were there or not, and of how soon they eventually were killed or froze in hell (=fryse i hel) and how soon they rather went to Roma, where it is quite much warmer than on Gardar in Austerbygd for instance, today Igalicu Grønland.
. But Nidaros is rather warm. According to the SAGA, The King of Mære drowned in the brewery barrel.
Which is really No wonder. I never saw as fine and ripe fields of Malt as on Medalhus, Stiklestad and Mære. The area does deliver the worlds best Malt also today, and ripe apples in Steinkjer in August.
But this situation is all due to the golf stream and the very regular western winds in that fjord. No wonder Olav Digre (Later St. Olav) came there on drive in tourism in summer 29th of july, with his men, until the Bishop told the peasants to take to their arms and to stop that tourism.
But on the Gardar Bishop See in Austerbygd, Grønlands warmest hole, today Igaliku….
…..they hardly knew bread according to reality and the Cronicles and to the SPECVLVM REGALE.
Rumors different from that, spread in the contrarian moovement, of Bold Siegfrieds and Brunhilders with golden helmets and cow horns lightly dressed and swetting in ox leather and with a “Cathedral” in the background on “eastern Grønland” …..
……..is but Wagner Opera from Teutoburger Wald for the sceenes of Bayereuth in order to pleace the wealthier public and their Führer in the audience, and to cash for that.
I could check up Hvalsey Kirke on the net. (a most important document)
That building is unluckily founded on permafrost right out to the sea by Scotsch masons, who mistook permafrost for solid gound in Grønlands warmest hole in the warm mideival time.
Those buildings were founded strictly west- east to have the easter sunrise right into the apex window and with narrow windows to the south tight to the north, to observe the sun and keep catolic calendar of holidays. Wvery narrow windows round at the top gave Camera obscura projections of the sun on the northern wall, and sun crosses could be painted fresco on the white wall to keep very exact ly observed sun calendar.
The southern and warm wall of that church has sank 75 Cm on thawing permafroost (during the little ice age perhaps?), since it was set up. Today corrected and secured by hydraulics and concrete. You surely will find it on the net.
The stones are talking from Hvalsey and Austerbygd. They rather ruin the alternatives. The extreemly world fameous Hvalsey Church in Austerbygd rather give Mr. Mann right with the shafts end, of that pile..
Conclusion. Rumors of that warm medeival time is shooting itself in the feet before going into clinch and fight and dispute.
Another probably most important and reliable climate indicator of the very area, is the use of hydraulic lime mortar for masonry and for plaster (Murpuss) with Fresco paintings during the warm mideival period.
This very critical criterium of summer warmth and length of season is my personal suggestion. Being a physical chemist with interests in technical archaeology I learnt it a bit from Hans Rosberg in Malmø, hydraulic lime mortar and fresco and church mason with his royal swedish public scool different from Dialectic Materialism as insytructed by Chicago Gangsters for you, the flat earth believers and hopelessly uncritical and unsceptical ones to the holy scriptures.
The very fameous Ikait mineral CaCO3 . 6H2O forms below 5 deg celsius from lime mortar and next summer the very masonry falls down again like dry chalk powder, and that very burning of twigs and thimbers and forests for it was done in vain.
De- carbonatization of CaCO3 occurs at 900 celsius in an endotherm reaction. That is a quite tremendous heat really. Only the church and / or the King could afford i. But in New England where there is huge forests, early settlers have left really very sublime and advanced hydraulic lime mortar masonry with natural stones. The tower of Plymuth Rock for instance. Vitis lambrusca also growing wildly in the wood.
Above +8 Celsius, provided that you also can guarantee that there will be absolutely no frost onward for one month at least, rather Calcite CaCO3 will form from hydraulic lime mortar mixed with sand. That will keep, and you can paint Fresco on it next year.
Antony Watts & al should take notice of this: (Would anyone of you remind him?)
Rather seek up the limit between chalk and mortar and of burnt brick and tiles on one side……
….. and the extreemly fameous rather Wooden churches and cathedrals, for which te Pope had to give DISPENSATIONE in the Novgorod and the Nidaros Arch Bishop see areas, the quite extreeeeemly fameous stave churches of Norway and the logged thimber cathedrals of Russia. From the warm mideival period..
That limit is very distinct all through Scandinavia and the north russian areas. St Magnus on Orkenøerne is the outer limit of enough sunner warmth for lime mortar masonry north- westwards in the Atlantic, probablyb also for necessary large thimber for that kind of work.
Plus long season and pasture land and hey for the oxes to drag those huge stones, and not forget beer for the masons, else they will complain and strike.
There is no redbrick and tiles and lime on Island allready. From the warm mideival period.
Burt you find it indeed in eastern Europe, in the southern baltic sea area and onward to Lund and Roskilde Denmark, All over Jylland, furher to Hamar, Oslo, Stavanger, Bergen, Selje, Nidaros and all up to Alstadhaug on Helgeland in Norway. An up the walleys where there is enough summer warmth and,…… huge thimbers and trees to be logged and chopped and burnt. That ain`t not so on Færøerne allready and not at all om Island and in Austerbygd at Gardar.,Today Igaliku.
Mideival architecture on Island and on Grønland, as I could see and judge it, is rather frappingly similar to southern Sæmi- architecture uphill and up in the mountains in the warmest places there, in the Nidaros arch bishop see domain during the warm mideival period.
Theese circumstances together seem quite clearly to be ruining the very warm mideival period on this side of the atlantic and further on Island and Grønland, even in Grønlands hottest hole.
Mann with his pile can be solidly sustained there, by methods thart Dr Mann was definitely not aware of as he made that…pile.
But the SAGA allready gives him quite right.
The little ice age is quite more tricky as seen from my side,……
……… because there we have histories and we have the diaries of both Tycho Brahe on Uranienborg (Probably having had SPECVLVM REGALE personally on hand for studies in royal diplomacy and astrology chosmology) and the isle of Hven in Øresund, and of Johan Daniel Berlin , Cantor and master of the fireward in Nidaros around 1750. Who took very fine notice of the weathers and the snow and ices datum also. Brahe took consequent notice of the weathers and when the ices came and went on Hven at his Uranienborg in Øresund. Rundetaarn in Copenhagen by brick and lime mortar, is the paralell King Christian IV`s royal observatory in town from the little ice ages. The belts froze so on one occation the sweedes could march over the ices and take them, and the Royal Navy was unable to leave harbour and shoot the sweedes. That is also history.
Then we have the very fameous glacier morraines documents, that I also could go and inspect and pick into and convince myself without having to ask the experts. They correspond splendidly with Peter Breugels flemish paintings of bitterly cold winter scenes, and with the ice festivals on the Thames in London.
I am quite surprised that the fameous little ice age does not show up on the shaft of that pile of that Mann
But to all the rest of you, you must learn how to build an argument by details and marks of real nature and by enlighted knowledge of nature different from commerciallized communist and nazi vulgar and romantic & fanatic religion of the blind believers……
…….before you go into clinch with the Arch Bishops of Nidaros and of Novgorod and of Uppsala and into clinch with a Mann with a pile, blindly believing that it is a hockeystick and that the earth is as flat as an indoor hockeystic arena.
Don`t be so uncritical and unrealistic about which Chateau and from which Tank you support and buy your wines.
Never buy it from Thinktank at Chateau Heartland for instance. Because that Brewery is rather similar and equal to the fameous Arbeiter und Bauernfakultät in Greifswald, now closed. They were the Thinktank for the Chateau d`Asbestos behind the wall in Berlin the “Palast der Republik” (now taken down, because it was not sustainable…). Greifswald brewed on Licens. from Chateau Leningrad, to defend all the coalsmokes and living standards in Carl Marx Stadt old Saxonia for many many many years.
Nidaros arch bishop see from the warm mideival period, todays NTNU.no is better, together with the Harward, and the Massachusetts institute of technology where rather I buy my american brews and wines for safe consumption.
That brew from Chateau Heartland seems mixed up with sheere coce from the Ayn Rand institute in California also, to refresh you best and give you a new personality.
Choisest Barley and apples is better, having very solid traditions also over there I know.
REPLY: Not a “Dr.”, but thanks for the sentiment. – Anthony

From the man himself (via WayBack). Patrick Moore’s Greenspirit webpage that no longer exists since last year.
How Sick Is That? Environmental Movement Has Lost Its Way
http://web.archive.org/web/20130524211137/http://www.greenspirit.com/logbook.cfm?msid=83

Mr Watts, you should update this post with the posting by CaligulaJones at January 24, 2014 at 8:54 am, showing Moore on the Wayback Machine’s capture of the Greenpeace founders.