Elevated from a comment left on WUWT about the Quote of the Week – sensationalizing for the greater good. See note below.
Brad Keyes
climatenuremberg.com Submitted on 2014/01/21 at 9:57 pm
As the poster of the “astonishing statement,” I have been distressed, disturbed and demoralised by a tattoo of remarkably closely-synchronised assaults on my integrity launched from the direction of the flat-earthosphere. Obviously I can’t even begin to put myself in the shoes of a world-leading researcher like Dr Michael Mann, but I now know exactly how he felt in the darkest hour of his own Garden of Gethsemane*: hounded by politicians crowing over every typo, dogged by deniers baying for blood, ratted out by soi-disant “colleagues” and and mobbed by the bleating, myth-parroting mouthpieces of the Murdocracy (or should I say HERDocracy).
I’ve always gone out of my way to display patience and tolerance for folks who voice doubts, misconceptions and incomplete knowledge regarding climate change, even if their questions have been soundly debunked and/or dismissed by scientists, provided (of course) that their difference of opinion is a matter of sincere ignorance; but it seems it was naive of me to hope for your folks’ respect in return!
To those who have described my comment as “plagiarism” (a mastertrope of dog-whistling, ad hominem and Islamophobia obviously intended to liken me to Edward Wegman’s “foreign,” “non-American,” “A-rab!!!” grad student):
Paranoid much? Think “Skeptically” for a second. If I were stealing statements from climate scientists then how, pray tell, could I have obtained sentences like:
“THEY are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people THEY’D like to see the world a better place… So THEY have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts THEY might have.”
Notice how I refer to climate scientists in the 3RD PERSON? Are you seriously suggesting these are Steve Schneider’s expressions? LOL—OK, riiiight. How anybody could be familiar with the Professor’s lectures and writings on the planetary climate crisis without noticing his favoritism towards the 1st person is beyond me. Even for climate-debate standards, that would be tone-deaf.
The passage you thought you recognized was, in fact, a PARAPHRASE of the climate-scientific ethics Schneider expounded so memorably in a wide-ranging Discovery interview.
Sure, it was that article which first opened my mind—and that of a whole generation of non-climate-scientist readers—to these ideas, but I’ve met literally dozens of climate consensualists who’d confirm and agree with Schneider’s principles, so it seems both supererogatory and arbitrary to demand I attribute them to the individual researcher who just happened to articulate them first/ best to a muggle audience.
We’re having a discussion (or Conversation) about the way **climate science** works (and how it differs from the public’s idealized, black-and-white caricature of science as “just the truth, ma’am”)—which didn’t die with the late great Professor Schneider!
This is something around which many misconceptions still exist—let’s raise some awareness. Imagine how much colder the planet would be if so-called Skeptics stopped being so negative and made constructive contributions?
Instead of impugning my entire life’s work (what’s next? rats on the doorstep? a burning cross on my lawn?), you folks could do some CLIMATE COMMUNICATION with the people who read The Conversation—most of whom, in my experience, still labor under the understandable misconception that climate scientists are pure, dispassionate, asexual truth-machines, who have seen the future and describe their observations. There’s still nowhere near enough appreciation (let alone sympathy) out there for the bewildering flowchart of moral dilemmas, compromises and pitfalls scientists began to encounter (starting about 25 years ago) when determining how, what, to whom and what not to communicate.
Yours in defending the science,
Brad
* Speaking of trials, it seems someone upthread has had the audacity to take a soundbite from the Bible completely out of context and imply that it is somehow incompatible with Schneiderian/Mullerian/Kopaczian climate ethics:
“Why not say–as some slanderously claim that we say–”Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!”
Pure disinformation. While technically this is an accurate statement by God (or his Greek interpreter), my critic disingenuously fails to mention that it does NOT come from a climate scientist. In fact Christ and his apostles hadn’t even heard of the work of Arrhenius, so their ethical code, while admirable for the time, was obviously unable to take into account the seriousness of the apocalypse now facing us (if one believes the IPCC’s revelations)—and it is grossly dishonest to insinuate (by omission) that two millennia of advancements and rethinks in ethics, most dramatically in the last two decades, never occurred!
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NOTE: for somebody who espouses “patience and tolerance” in one paragraph, while using the “flat earth” and other less savory labels in the next certainly suggests your claim isn’t rooted in sincerity, something also indicated by your About Page. However, in fairness to you, since we covered your statement (via Susan Crockford’s polar bear blog) in Quote of the Week – sensationalizing for the greater good. I’m giving your rebuttal full visibility. – Anthony
I’d urge the poor man to seek urgent medical attention. He’s severely paranoid, it would seem.
M Courtney says:
January 22, 2014 at 1:07 am
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He might even be a 5th columnist. One can but hope 🙂
You know the urban myth about Americans being generally incapable of recognising sarcasm when they see it?
Not so much a myth.
Let’s ban stage impersonators for Plagiarizing the characteristics of others. Or let’s insist that satires should include citations. Perhaps Brad should have added a footnote to Schneiders ‘famous’ quote.
I’m warming to Simon Hopkinsons hypothesis.
Another quote from Brad on his site may give people some clues as to his interesting pint of view.
“Climate change is real.
Now.
Climate change is happening.
Now.
It may even be happening near you. Someone you know may already have experienced it.
It could be anyone. A fellow faculty member. That loner who sits in the back row at your Greenpeace chapter meetings. A member of a completely different faculty.
Talk to them. More importantly: listen to them, and be a shoulder to cry on. They may seem irrational, or be in denial, or take their anger out on you. Don’t take it personally! These are just normal stages in the process of healing from climate trauma. Above all, resist the natural desire to suggest cheap, easy solutions—there are none, and it can be very offensive to propose them—and never, for god’s sake, tell the victim they should “try to adapt.”
Just be there. That’s what climate-change survivors need.”
And this goes to the heart of it all probably
“How bad does the science have to get before we do something to stop it?”
Simon Hopkinson says:
January 22, 2014 at 2:41 am
“You know the urban myth about Americans being generally incapable of recognising sarcasm when they see it?
Not so much a myth.”
Apparently!
This isn’t the writing of an adult. It isn’t.
RichardLH says at January 22, 2014 at 2:54 am… quite.
However, there is an important issue here.
The lack of ability to spot the tone of a text is quite debilitating in the internet age. Moving pictures and talking heads are just too slow for the coveyance of complex ideas.
Perhaps more poetry reading from an early age would help?
Neo-Keynesian : In the long run, the Swabian Housewife will destroy the economy with her thrift and industry!
Neo-Scientist : In the long run, the observations will conform to the model output!
Neo-Climatologist : Not your average anomaly!
Neo-Pothead : The grass is greener on the other side!
Neo-Guardian : All the people on the Left, are right!
Neo-Me: I may be older in the morning, but Oreskes will be fuglierer!
Neo-Classicist : Defend the pennies and the pennies defend the Dollar.
Defend the Scientific method and the method defends the scientist!
Courtney, et. al, – those who undertook to read the man’s site recognize the parody for what it is. He certainly has mastered the style.
Some of us have grown weary enough of the type not to have bothered.
Guys, Brad’s been cleaning climate alarmist clocks for sometime now. There is a thread in Deltoid you can read (if you wish to head that way).
I like the title of his home page: “Musings from Germany on climate, science and climate science.”
I interpret that as there’s climate, and there’s science. And then there’s climate science – which has nothing to do with either climate or science.
Where do you live Brad? North East USA – lucky guess? Take a stroll outside over the next week or two and take time to enjoy the global warming!
Brad is a ‘sceptic’ ! – satirizing them
Brad, making an satirical comment about Lew here:
http://geoffchambers.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/lews-crews-loose-screws-by-brad-keyes/
annoyed deltoid so much, the banished him here:
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2013/02/02/brangelina-thread/
Brad on Prof Lewandowsky: (quoted at Geoff’s blog)
http://geoffchambers.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/lews-crews-loose-screws-by-brad-keyes/
Brad:
“To call Lewandowsky a quack smears ducks.
He’s a joke on the behavioral and mental sciences, an enemy to the hard-working army of mental health professionals whose driving motivation is to help other human beings, a disgrace to the Australian Psychological Society and a herpes sore on the reputation of any other body promiscuous enough to accredit him.
SOURCE—Lewandowsky’s intellectually suicidal outburst can be seen here:
http://theconversation.edu.au/there-is-a-real-climategate-out-there-4428#comment_14042”
– Brad Keyes
No, this just HAS to be a windup. Too many idiocies in too little space. Don’t take it seriously.
Satire, true believer, cautionary tale or just perennial second rater- like everyone else supported by my tax dollars stolen by a succession of cancerous governments- The Conversation, The Drum, and all the sinecures and handouts should be stopped immediately and these people can talk amongst themselves without my sponsorship through the legalised theft of excessive taxation.
To the government- cut your spending, IT ISN’T YOURS TO GIVE.
As for the original plagiarised post- it’s a troll attempt whether he is sincere or not.
Problem with him is he’s indistinguishable from the ordinary warmist, think Franny Armstrong or Keith Farnish or Linkola, sounds like one of them with only one Ritalin more. Eli Rabbett has written like a crazy person for ages now; they are all so beyond the pale that his schtick is indistinguishable from their writing, plus, “The Conversation” sounds like one big Sokal hoax anyway, so how tell the genuine crackpots from the imitators.
I want to know if someone left a burning bag of dog poop on Brad’s front step and rang his doorbell. He can blame skeptics for ruining his loafers, too.
Just so much there that I have to believe he’s putting us on.
Simon Hopkinson’s tsk tsking at Americans at 2:41am would have been so much more effective if he had submitted it, say, three hours earlier. You know, before Mike Mellor’s comment at 11:53PM. That was the first time anyone in this thread used the words satire or sarcasm in regards to Brad’s rant.
When I first read that comment I thought it was satire.
Now I find it is not. You can read his thoughts here:
Steven Hales says: “His earnestness reminds me of a sophomore co-ed.”
High school sophomores protest!
Between NOAA’s claims that we are actually warming up, and Trenberth’s admission we are not, and this interesting post from Keyes, and Lewandowsky’s on going sad meltdown, something is moving in the force.
Mike Mellor says: @ur momisugly January 21, 2014 at 11:53 pm
I can’t believe the comments in this thread. With some people, you have to be as subtle as a train smash before they spot the sarcasm.
A very fine piece of satire, Brad Keyes.
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I too thought it was a fine piece of sarcasm. Unfortunately it wasn’t! INCREDIBLE
(See my other comment with his quotes if it ever gets out of moderation)