The Cli-Tanic #spiritofmawson Hotsheet for Sunday January 5th

The gift that just keeps on giving.

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Bishop Hill writes:

I did wonder if applying the “Ship of Fools” tag to Chris Turney and his shipmates wasn’t just a bit rude, but take a look at this video (below), recorded before his departure, in which he talks about the trip. You have to say that Turney does not come over well. And to spend most of the interview discussing the life and death nature of the expedition and the hardships they will face, before revealing that he is taking his wife and family along, is almost too much.

You can see how the trip might end in a shambles.

Turney_before_spiritofmawson

There is a transcript also. Click image for video and transcript.

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Who Is Behind The Ship Of Fools? The Spectator, 4 January 2014

Ross Clark, The Spectator

As Chris Turney and his colleagues make their way home from their failed adventure, the next question is: who is going to be paying for their folly?  It certainly isn’t the general public. The efforts by Turney and his co-leader Chris Fogwill to crowd-fund money have been an embarrassing failure. They were seeking to raise $49,000 in this way – a small fraction of the $1.5 million overall costs – but they managed to raise a mere $1,000 from 22 people.

Not even the promise of a signed copy of Turney’s book, 1912: the year the World Discovered Antarctica was enough to tempt donors into action: not a single one chose to receive the book.

British taxpayers, needless to say, have dipped in their toes. One of the sponsors is the University of Exeter, Professor Turney’s previous employer. The university is fast on its way to taking over from the University of East Anglia as the global warming lobby’s chief mouthpiece. Universities claim to have fallen on hard times but there seems to be no lack of money when it comes to broadcasting the global warming lobby’s case:  Exeter has just launched a ‘massive open online course’ on climate change which the public are all invited to sign up – all for free. I don’t think I would be pleased about that if I was paying £9,000-a-year tuition fees for one of Exeter’s other course.

Another question that needs to be asked about Turney’s expedition is how come the only journalists aboard are from the Guardian, which has sent two reporters, the BBC and Radio New Zealand – all eager mouthpieces of the global warming lobby.   I would be fascinated to know if anyone else was invited.

The timing of the publication of a paper by Turney’s current employer, the University of New South Wales, is also fascinating. That appeared in Nature on 1 January, claiming that current climate models under-estimate the level of warming, which could reach 4C by 2100.

As I noted here on Thursday, as the world fails to warm, the greater faith seems to be put into faulty climate models which so far have proved wrong in many respects – among them predicting ever hotter and drier summers for the UK, the exact opposite of the trend of the past decade. As a sign of just how far the climate debate has veered away from genuine science into ideological nonsense, have a look at this quote:

‘In sum, a strategy must recognise what is possible. In climate research and modelling, we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.’

Any ideas where it comes from? The IPCC report of 2001, when that body still recognised that predictions of the sort made by Turney’s colleagues are fantasy.

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WUWT Reader LeAnn (Quin Tessential) writes to us suggesting that things aren’t as they seem to be:

According to all I’ve read, researched, recorded, and documented… I’m beginning to think that there is NO WAY that the Akademik Shokalskiy got anywhere near the open polyna at Mertz glacier. That (could) mean that Chris Turney reported that the ship was somewhere that it never really arrived at.

From “thesargasso”

From the http://thesargasso.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-12-28T20:38:00-08:00&max-results=7

DATA ON CAPE DE LA MOTT:

De la Motte, Cape

Country USA Latitude 67° 00′ 00.0″ S -67.000 Longitude 144° 25′ 00.0″ E 144.417

A prominent cape separating Watt and Buchanan Bays. Just southward the continental ice surface rises 520 m at Mount Hunt. Charted by the AAE (1911-14) under Douglas Mawson, who named it for C.P. de la Motte, third officer on the expedition ship this cape is “Point Case,” which the USEE (1838-42) under Lt. Charles Wilkes saw from what was called “Disappointment Bay” on Jan. 23, 1840.

A prominent cape west of the Mertz Glacier on the coast of George V Land. Discovered by AAE (1911-14) under Sir Douglas Mawson, who named it after C P de la Motte, a member of the expedition.

Also from the Sargasso.blogspot.com website-

SOS ANTARCTICA–THE FATE OF THE AKADEMIK SHOKALSKIY

“The 620 dwt research vessel Akademik Shokalskiy became trapped in ice off the coast of Antarctica near Stillwell Island.  The Akademik Shokalskiy had been at anchor 40 miles off Mawson’s Hut on Cape Denison, Antarctica with 74 people when it departed for the Mertz glacier.  The vessel became stuck in heavy ice floes as it approached Cape de la Motte.”

Based on the maps of the Antarctic coastline provided by the Sargasso website AND the interactive google maps on both the guardian.com on Alok Jha’s posts about the expedition AND the one on www.spiritofmawson.com-the expedition NEVER went further down the coastline than Cape de la Motte.

So when Chris Turney says that they made it into “the open water polynya” on the Mertz glacier, he’s either completely mistaken about where his group actually made shore, or he’s lying.

According to the blog entries on the www.spiritofmawson.com, AND a livefeed interview with Chris Turney himself on December 22-there was a blizzard coming in and the ice was closing around them.

See Chris Turney himself-

The above YouTube video titled “Farewell to Mawson’s Base (Cape Denison) which was streamed live on Dec 22,2013. It’s an interview with Chris Turney standing on board the ship in howling wind, sub degree weather, yelling into his mic, and you actually SEE the zodiac zip past behind him on the open ice behind him.

At 1:58 in the video he says:

“We knew this bad weather was coming in”. He goes on “We’re basically here at the base of Mertz Glacier, and we’re basically being hammered by a blizzard.”

You can also see the zodiac running back and forth behind him and people walking on the ice near the ship.

According to the blog entry made by Peter and Judy Stevenson, on December 22, 2013- We know this:

“The journey today is to move east around the large B9B iceberg. This will take all day and into tomorrow, hopefully placing us at the shore edge of the Mertz glacier and Stillwell Island area, and providing the opportunity to step onto the Antarctic continent.”

Now. …IF the ship had to travel EAST, “around” the B09B iceberg towards the Mertz Glacier, then that means that it previously been anchored somewhere to the WEST of the iceberg that blocks the entrance to Commonwealth Bay. And that trip was supposed to take “all day and into tomorrow” which would make their arrival at the Mertz glacier on December 23rd.

In the video,Chris said they were at the base of the Mertz glacier on the 22nd. The passengers say ON the 22nd that they are more than a day away from it.

Chris’s twitter feed shows this entry on the 21st

http://fms.ws/E_LuU

Off to Mertz Glacier.-2degC, -11degC wind ch

Hours later on his twitter feed, he shows a video from Alok Jha showing them passing ICEBERGS between the shoreline and the ship-since the ice and land are on the ships starboard side, it indicates the ship was headed in the direction of the Mertz glacier, away from Commonwealth Bay.

Chris Turney@ProfChrisTurney 22 Dec

We’re passing some fantastic looking ice bergs! #spiritofmawson Alok Jha https://vine.co/v/hEJq7utbQj7

On the 22nd-twitter feed-

Chris Turney@ProfChrisTurney 22 Dec

http://fms.ws/F0K8_

Blizzard. -4degC, -15degC wind chill.

There are NO twitter entries for December 23, and only ONE on the 24th. Why would a scientist on a historical expedition who had done nothing but tweet and blog and record videos suddenly STOP communicating at ALL for two days?

And we know from both maps that the ship didn’t make it past Cape de la Motte-which it would have to to reach the “open water polyna” on Mertz Glacier.

Yet Chris Turney said this on Dec 26th in a blog post on www.spiritofmawson.com-

“Following our successful visit to Cape Denison, sea ice remained clear, allowing our science expedition to proceed to the Mertz Glacier and open water polynya on the other side of Commonwealth Bay. Good conditions allowed the team to reach the Hodgeman Islets to continue our science programme and make comparisons to our findings around Mawson’s Hut. We managed to collect a range of samples for three of the science teams on these rarely visited islands; a fantastic result. The distance from the land to the sea ice edge is only 5 kilometres, providing an excellent test of the impact of the large sea ice extent around Cape Denison.

Supported by volunteers on board, our teams investigated marine mammals, ornithology, glaciology while oceanographic work continued on board. Kerry-Jayne Wilson of the Blue Penguin Trust found the penguin colony on the Hodgeman Islets is thriving, demonstrating the distance the Mawson Hut Adelie penguins have to travel is a major factor in the fall of numbers. Tracey Rogers of UNSW also obtained the largest number of seal blubber samples on the expedition while Eleanor Rainsley collected geological samples that will provide an invaluable insight into the history of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. Returning to the Shokalskiy, conditions started to close in and we quickly loaded the vehicles on to the vessel.”

And then in the Guardian article where he tries to justify the trip, he said this:

“Unfortunately, events unfolded which no amount of preparation can mitigate. To provide a comparison with the samples we collected in the Mawson Hut area, we relocated the vessel to the Mertz Glacier area in the east, a major driver of ocean circulation and importantly an area where the continent is closer to the sea ice edge. Late on 23 December, we returned to the Shokalskiy. We had completed our work programme on the continent and were heading north into open water to continue the oceanographic work on the return home.

Unluckily for us, there appears to have been a mass breakout of thick, multiyear sea ice on the other side of the Mertz Glacier; years after the loss of the Mertz Glacier tongue. There was nothing to suggest this event was imminent”

More damning evidence? In the numbered Australasian Antarctic Expedition 2013 videos on youtube, you will see Parts 13 and 14 showing the trip to Mawson’s huts, and Part 15 shows the first mayday call from the ship. Where is the day or TWO days that is supposed to be between the Mawson trips and being stuck in the ice? Where’s video footage showing the groups on shore collecting samples? Or any photographs from them? Or even ONE of the Mertz Glacier they are supposedly so close to? Was Turney actually in Watts Bay (oh the irony) or Buchannan Bay when he thought he was near the glacier?

Something’s wrong here.

UPDATE:

For the record, the lack of any publicly available and accurate log  (the Live EXPEDITION Tracker on spiritofmawson.com is woefully incomplete) makes interpreting the expedition times and dates a murky proposition at best, and leaves interested parties to interpret other available evidence, such as blog posts, Twitter entries, and other anecdotal records. In that process, along with time zones, and the way certain web pages might log times differently, confusion is likely to set in. In the above third piece by LeAnn, there are some claims that can’t be substantiated either way and speculation abounds. That said, there are some things in LeAnn’s post that are probably a result of that sort of confusion due to lack of a good timeline. From my view Turney’s expedition most likely made it to Mertz glacier, but they did a poor job of documenting it. Social media really shouldn’t be the way to log a scientific expedition.

While LeAnn’s entry raises some questions that are worth seeking answers to, I would caution readers not to speculate until such time those things can be nailed down, and wait until an official expedition log is posted, so that anecdotal information can be reconciled with the official expedition log. Given the intense interest of this expedition, and the fact that it was publicly funded, I think it is incumbent on the spiritofmawson.com website to post a valid trip log so these questions about who/what/when/where can be reconciled.  I look forward to this happening.

Never attribute malice to what can be explained by simple incompetence.

– Anthony

UPDATE2: Other editorial cartoons are following Josh’s lead:

mawson_irony

Source: http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/01/global_warming_irony_global_warming_research.html

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Caz Jones
January 6, 2014 6:17 am

Oh my word, what an embarrassment he is to England? I finally watched the clip with the Japanese and the penguins. It appeared they were trying to push them over rather than ‘punching them in the face’. I read, many years ago, that penguins would fall like dominos if you pushed one over. Perhaps they were amusing themselves by seeing if that happened? Not that it is a right thing to do, but less brutal than the ‘punching’ scenario.

Caz Jones
January 6, 2014 6:19 am

Didn’t mean to put a question mark in my first sentence. There is no question that the man is a buffoon.

Caz Jones
January 6, 2014 6:44 am
Paul Westhaver
January 6, 2014 7:10 am

I watched the MacNeil interview with Turney prior to the disembarkment to Antarctica.
Chris Turney incessant inappropriate laughter made me uncomfortable to the point that I didn’t hear much of the interview. All I was doing was preparing my body to cringe at the next round of forced jocularity.
Turney is not a serious scientist nor is he a shadow of the likes of Scott, Shackleton and Amundson. He is a fool. Taking his family for heaven’s sake! What an $$.
“Ship of fools” is not rude. It is a generous understatement.

Steve
January 6, 2014 7:48 am

Paul Westhaver says:
January 6, 2014 at 7:10 am
He has been described as “a modern day David Livingston” (see his bio at SOM). On another thread I said: “So we know how the Chinese greeted him: ‘Dr Turkey, I presume’
(Sorry to repeat this poor attempt at humour but I thought it appropriate given this video—I’m keeping my day job BTW).

January 6, 2014 7:55 am

Excellent post, a lot of true!

Steve
January 6, 2014 8:22 am

Be aware, they will alter that Lateline video. At present it says:
ROBERT TURNEY: Dad, on the blog, basically, it’s just: day after day, more ocean.
CHRIS TURNEY: (laughs) Don’t be dreadful! No one wants to read that!
IN THE FUTURE IT WILL SAY:
ROBERT TURNEY: Dad, on the blog, basically, it’s just: day after day, more ice.
CHRIS TURNEY: (laughs) Don’t be dreadful! I don’t want to read that!

January 6, 2014 8:31 am

Mac the Knife says January 5, 2014 at 1:18 pm
With the proliferation of inexpensive handheld GPS devices, I would be surprised if Chris Turney really didn’t know the precise location of the ship. Heavy falling snow (or heavy rain) may interfere with reception

L-band based GPS (1575.42 MHz to be precise) is immune to weather effects, unless it is ‘raining’ strips of aluminum foil (heavy chaff) … weather effects are noticeable on small-dish subscription Ku-band sat services on account of the much shorter wavelength (almost an order of magnitude shorter) and the tighter RF-downlink signal loss or “link budget”.
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John Tillman
January 6, 2014 8:33 am

Maybe the whole Turney family got to go free, in berths slated for cruise organizers´ guests. That´s often how tour junkets work.

milodonharlani
January 6, 2014 8:48 am

Apologies if this has been linked before:

Hitler as Turney, but not so as to violate board Nazi name-calling policy. The ever-ready Führerbunker scene recycled yet again.

Gail Combs
January 6, 2014 9:08 am

Steve says: January 5, 2014 at 7:18 pm
A real gung-ho attitude which reminds me of the rashness of George Custer at the Little Bighorn. Perhaps he is now Custard Turkey or Turkey Custard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How about The Chris(tmas) Turkey Custard for describing the whole fiasco. Turney is certainly doing enough spin to make a very fine custard or a Custard Ice Cream

Gail Combs
January 6, 2014 9:43 am

Walter Clemens says: January 6, 2014 at 12:13 am
… What happened here?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The Captain gave them a time limit and they ignored it due to stupidity (allowing ample time for problems) and the submerging of one of the Argos.
That Turkey allowed his son off the boat that day, KNOWING a storm was blowing in and the Captain was anxious is stupefying and truly shows that this bunch had a major lack of common sense.
I do not think that idiot has any idea of how close they came to getting themselves killed. Pack Ice and a storm and being off the boat? They are darn lucky none ended up in the water and then had the ice shift closing the hole.
Mention was made (by the son?) of leads opening up and giving them trouble.
Good grief even us lowly cavers know enough to carry three sources of light but these idiots go off with no excess transport capacity.

Colorado Wellington
January 6, 2014 11:19 am

Gail Combs says:
“… even us lowly cavers …”

What was the lowest descent? 🙂

Mike
January 6, 2014 11:23 am

“Everyone will be supporting everyone else’s science.”
Yup.

J Martin
January 6, 2014 1:26 pm

Another USCG Ice Breaker, the Nathaniel Palmer appears to be heading towards the trapped vessels at 10 knots, currently East of Antarctica and heading North up the coast, may presumably turn West towards the incident. I’m assuming the Polar Star has slowed in order for both vessels to arrive at the same time.
Nothing from the uncommunicative AMSA on the subject, they haven’t responded to the email I sent them.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:6.439021/centery:49.68177/zoom:8/mmsi:367255000
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=WBP3210
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_B._Palmer_%28icebreaker%29
Also the Akademik Federov was last placed a few days to the West of the incident, but there seems to be no update on it’s position since the 1st of January.

Gail Combs
January 6, 2014 1:58 pm

Colorado Wellington says:
January 6, 2014 at 11:19 am
“… even us lowly cavers …”
What was the lowest descent? 🙂
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
33 meters to the world’s depth record.

Aphan
January 6, 2014 2:19 pm

Turney has plenty of money to pay for his wife and kids to join him. As an Australian Laureate Fellow, he gets a “salary supplement from the ARC of $114,170 per annum (plus 28 per cent on-costs) with a standard tenure of five years. The Administering Organisation will appoint the Australian Laureate Fellow and provide a salary equivalent to a professor (Level E) or equivalent salary.
In addition to a salary supplement and salary-related (on-cost) support, the ARC may provide Australian Laureate Fellows with Project Funding of up to $300,000 per annum and additional funding to appoint up to two postdoctoral research associates and up to two postgraduate researchers.”
So, in addition to the $114,170 per anum plus 28 percent, he ALSO got a position as a professor-Level E- whose salary is in the $165,000 a year range. PLUS IF he got the project funding, that’s another $300,000 a year-plus enough to hire 4 other people.
So a grand total of almost $600,000 a YEAR-not to mention any grants, or other awards etc, and income from publishing his books etc, plus speaking fees. Who says climate scientists are poor?

pat
January 6, 2014 3:15 pm

icebound and yet claiming***
29 Dec: Guardian: Antarctic expedition: still icebound – what happens next is anyone’s guess
Like explorer Douglas Mawson 100 years ago, Alok Jha and the expedition he joined face a long wait to be rescued
Since then we have been stuck in pack ice. The Chinese icebreaker Xue Long has given up its attempt to rescue us as ice sheets continue to spread and thicken. Now Xue Long is waiting for the Australian icebreaker Aurora Australis to join it in a joint bid to free our ship…
We are at Cape de la Motte in East Antarctica, ***on our way to the Mertz glacier, in a sea covered in ice floes up to four metres thick and several years old, making them dense and tough. Winds have pushed these floes towards the Antarctic mainland and pinned us in…
http://www.theguardian.com/world/antarctica-live/2013/dec/29/antarctica-expedition-ice-wait-rescue

Neil from NZ
January 6, 2014 3:27 pm

I was rather taken aback to read, in Turney’s statement defending the scientific achievements of his expedition: “During the expedition we pioneered a new route into the (Mawson’s) huts and were able to deliver two large teams to work in the area, including undertaking important conservation work on the huts.” His statement seems to constitute ‘gilding the lily’ to a remarkable extent.
The route the expedition took to the huts was across fast ice from where the Shokalsky was berthed – and would be impossible to duplicate by any future expedition. The two ‘large teams’ appeared to consist of only a dozen or so people. And in the one or (at most) two days spent at the Mawson Huts, it would be impractical to undertake any important conservation work.
Having visited three of the historic huts associated with Scott & Shackleton on Ross Island, as well as viewing the intricate and time-consuming conservation work being undertaken at Scott Base on artifacts from these huts, I would very much doubt that Turney’s group would have had the time, resources or expertise to do any genuine conservation work at the Mawson’s Huts.

Clay Marley
January 6, 2014 3:41 pm

icebound and yet claiming
29 Dec: Guardian: …We are at Cape de la Motte in East Antarctica, on our way to the Mertz glacier,
Well it sort of depends on how one defines “on our way”. Once the Captain got all the children on-board they were already 2 miles from open water, which would be the polynya North of Metrz. They never made it even that far. It does match the idea that they never got to “the base of Mertz Glacier”.

pat
January 6, 2014 5:53 pm

Neil from NZ –
Turney admits halfway through this that they were only at Mawson’s Huts for 12 hours:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01n9gcv/Discovery_The_Return_to_Mawsons_Antarctica_Part_Two/
they obviously worked fast!

Astrogirl.
January 6, 2014 7:15 pm

Neil from NZ
“Gilding the lily” seems a very appropriate description. The gentleman really does seem to have a problem of exaggerating the importance and nature of his work. Why promote it as one of the largest Australian “expeditions” to Antarctica when the numbers include a bunch of tourists and PhD students with peripheral interest in Antarctica (not to mention the family members)?
The whole idea that measurements a century apart will tell very much about climate change is overblown in the justification for the re-enactment.
“Pioneering a new route” over fast ice means it is not a route anyone else will ever use… sorry, just far too much spin for my taste.
I accept anthropomorphic climate change and believe we should be doing more. But I can’t see how this sort of expedition helps and the reinvention of its purpose and importance after it has stuffed up other people’s work is dreadful. I’m very disappointed that the UNSW and the Climate Change Centre there have gone into unquestioning back-up mode. They should be making genuine inquiries about (1) whether delays to the Russian ship leaving the area were caused by expeditioners tardiness; (2) whether Prof. Turney has covered this up; (3) was a MayDay call justified over a PanPan call – thus putting the chinese ship in more danger than it ought to have been and (4) truthfully documenting the damage to other people’s work and apologising and compensating for it. I know he says he “regrets” it, but he always adds a comment that there isn’t much impact, when he really wouldn’t know.
And on the importance of team selection – how does UNSW’s HR Department view hiring of one’s wife?

Rob Ricket
January 6, 2014 8:30 pm

Still quite a bit of sea ice around the A. A. And she’s been underway for nearly three days. At 14 knts, she should have traveled 1008 Nm. In 72 hours.
The current stern cam view shows three people working on some sort of instrumentation or a drone. I wonder if the are using a drone to select a path through the ice.
http://www.antarctica.gov.au/webcams/aurora

polski
January 6, 2014 9:04 pm

Once the Polar Star arrives at the ice bound ships what is the technique for freeing them. Do they circle to relieve the pressure or motor close in and parallel to it to free up space?

January 6, 2014 11:21 pm

Astrogirl. says:
January 6, 2014 at 7:15 pm
I accept anthropomorphic climate change
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I think maybe you used the wrong word:
an·thro·po·mor·phic [an-thruh-puh-mawr-fik] Show IPA
adjective
1.
ascribing human form or attributes to a being or thing not human, especially to a deity.
2.
resembling or made to resemble a human form: an anthropomorphic carving.
Or maybe not. Maybe it isn’t AGW but just looking like AGW having morphed a bit. 😉