The Cli-Tanic #spiritofmawson Hotsheet for Sunday January 5th

The gift that just keeps on giving.

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Bishop Hill writes:

I did wonder if applying the “Ship of Fools” tag to Chris Turney and his shipmates wasn’t just a bit rude, but take a look at this video (below), recorded before his departure, in which he talks about the trip. You have to say that Turney does not come over well. And to spend most of the interview discussing the life and death nature of the expedition and the hardships they will face, before revealing that he is taking his wife and family along, is almost too much.

You can see how the trip might end in a shambles.

Turney_before_spiritofmawson

There is a transcript also. Click image for video and transcript.

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Who Is Behind The Ship Of Fools? The Spectator, 4 January 2014

Ross Clark, The Spectator

As Chris Turney and his colleagues make their way home from their failed adventure, the next question is: who is going to be paying for their folly?  It certainly isn’t the general public. The efforts by Turney and his co-leader Chris Fogwill to crowd-fund money have been an embarrassing failure. They were seeking to raise $49,000 in this way – a small fraction of the $1.5 million overall costs – but they managed to raise a mere $1,000 from 22 people.

Not even the promise of a signed copy of Turney’s book, 1912: the year the World Discovered Antarctica was enough to tempt donors into action: not a single one chose to receive the book.

British taxpayers, needless to say, have dipped in their toes. One of the sponsors is the University of Exeter, Professor Turney’s previous employer. The university is fast on its way to taking over from the University of East Anglia as the global warming lobby’s chief mouthpiece. Universities claim to have fallen on hard times but there seems to be no lack of money when it comes to broadcasting the global warming lobby’s case:  Exeter has just launched a ‘massive open online course’ on climate change which the public are all invited to sign up – all for free. I don’t think I would be pleased about that if I was paying £9,000-a-year tuition fees for one of Exeter’s other course.

Another question that needs to be asked about Turney’s expedition is how come the only journalists aboard are from the Guardian, which has sent two reporters, the BBC and Radio New Zealand – all eager mouthpieces of the global warming lobby.   I would be fascinated to know if anyone else was invited.

The timing of the publication of a paper by Turney’s current employer, the University of New South Wales, is also fascinating. That appeared in Nature on 1 January, claiming that current climate models under-estimate the level of warming, which could reach 4C by 2100.

As I noted here on Thursday, as the world fails to warm, the greater faith seems to be put into faulty climate models which so far have proved wrong in many respects – among them predicting ever hotter and drier summers for the UK, the exact opposite of the trend of the past decade. As a sign of just how far the climate debate has veered away from genuine science into ideological nonsense, have a look at this quote:

‘In sum, a strategy must recognise what is possible. In climate research and modelling, we should recognise that we are dealing with a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore that the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.’

Any ideas where it comes from? The IPCC report of 2001, when that body still recognised that predictions of the sort made by Turney’s colleagues are fantasy.

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WUWT Reader LeAnn (Quin Tessential) writes to us suggesting that things aren’t as they seem to be:

According to all I’ve read, researched, recorded, and documented… I’m beginning to think that there is NO WAY that the Akademik Shokalskiy got anywhere near the open polyna at Mertz glacier. That (could) mean that Chris Turney reported that the ship was somewhere that it never really arrived at.

From “thesargasso”

From the http://thesargasso.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-12-28T20:38:00-08:00&max-results=7

DATA ON CAPE DE LA MOTT:

De la Motte, Cape

Country USA Latitude 67° 00′ 00.0″ S -67.000 Longitude 144° 25′ 00.0″ E 144.417

A prominent cape separating Watt and Buchanan Bays. Just southward the continental ice surface rises 520 m at Mount Hunt. Charted by the AAE (1911-14) under Douglas Mawson, who named it for C.P. de la Motte, third officer on the expedition ship this cape is “Point Case,” which the USEE (1838-42) under Lt. Charles Wilkes saw from what was called “Disappointment Bay” on Jan. 23, 1840.

A prominent cape west of the Mertz Glacier on the coast of George V Land. Discovered by AAE (1911-14) under Sir Douglas Mawson, who named it after C P de la Motte, a member of the expedition.

Also from the Sargasso.blogspot.com website-

SOS ANTARCTICA–THE FATE OF THE AKADEMIK SHOKALSKIY

“The 620 dwt research vessel Akademik Shokalskiy became trapped in ice off the coast of Antarctica near Stillwell Island.  The Akademik Shokalskiy had been at anchor 40 miles off Mawson’s Hut on Cape Denison, Antarctica with 74 people when it departed for the Mertz glacier.  The vessel became stuck in heavy ice floes as it approached Cape de la Motte.”

Based on the maps of the Antarctic coastline provided by the Sargasso website AND the interactive google maps on both the guardian.com on Alok Jha’s posts about the expedition AND the one on www.spiritofmawson.com-the expedition NEVER went further down the coastline than Cape de la Motte.

So when Chris Turney says that they made it into “the open water polynya” on the Mertz glacier, he’s either completely mistaken about where his group actually made shore, or he’s lying.

According to the blog entries on the www.spiritofmawson.com, AND a livefeed interview with Chris Turney himself on December 22-there was a blizzard coming in and the ice was closing around them.

See Chris Turney himself-

The above YouTube video titled “Farewell to Mawson’s Base (Cape Denison) which was streamed live on Dec 22,2013. It’s an interview with Chris Turney standing on board the ship in howling wind, sub degree weather, yelling into his mic, and you actually SEE the zodiac zip past behind him on the open ice behind him.

At 1:58 in the video he says:

“We knew this bad weather was coming in”. He goes on “We’re basically here at the base of Mertz Glacier, and we’re basically being hammered by a blizzard.”

You can also see the zodiac running back and forth behind him and people walking on the ice near the ship.

According to the blog entry made by Peter and Judy Stevenson, on December 22, 2013- We know this:

“The journey today is to move east around the large B9B iceberg. This will take all day and into tomorrow, hopefully placing us at the shore edge of the Mertz glacier and Stillwell Island area, and providing the opportunity to step onto the Antarctic continent.”

Now. …IF the ship had to travel EAST, “around” the B09B iceberg towards the Mertz Glacier, then that means that it previously been anchored somewhere to the WEST of the iceberg that blocks the entrance to Commonwealth Bay. And that trip was supposed to take “all day and into tomorrow” which would make their arrival at the Mertz glacier on December 23rd.

In the video,Chris said they were at the base of the Mertz glacier on the 22nd. The passengers say ON the 22nd that they are more than a day away from it.

Chris’s twitter feed shows this entry on the 21st

http://fms.ws/E_LuU

Off to Mertz Glacier.-2degC, -11degC wind ch

Hours later on his twitter feed, he shows a video from Alok Jha showing them passing ICEBERGS between the shoreline and the ship-since the ice and land are on the ships starboard side, it indicates the ship was headed in the direction of the Mertz glacier, away from Commonwealth Bay.

Chris Turney@ProfChrisTurney 22 Dec

We’re passing some fantastic looking ice bergs! #spiritofmawson Alok Jha https://vine.co/v/hEJq7utbQj7

On the 22nd-twitter feed-

Chris Turney@ProfChrisTurney 22 Dec

http://fms.ws/F0K8_

Blizzard. -4degC, -15degC wind chill.

There are NO twitter entries for December 23, and only ONE on the 24th. Why would a scientist on a historical expedition who had done nothing but tweet and blog and record videos suddenly STOP communicating at ALL for two days?

And we know from both maps that the ship didn’t make it past Cape de la Motte-which it would have to to reach the “open water polyna” on Mertz Glacier.

Yet Chris Turney said this on Dec 26th in a blog post on www.spiritofmawson.com-

“Following our successful visit to Cape Denison, sea ice remained clear, allowing our science expedition to proceed to the Mertz Glacier and open water polynya on the other side of Commonwealth Bay. Good conditions allowed the team to reach the Hodgeman Islets to continue our science programme and make comparisons to our findings around Mawson’s Hut. We managed to collect a range of samples for three of the science teams on these rarely visited islands; a fantastic result. The distance from the land to the sea ice edge is only 5 kilometres, providing an excellent test of the impact of the large sea ice extent around Cape Denison.

Supported by volunteers on board, our teams investigated marine mammals, ornithology, glaciology while oceanographic work continued on board. Kerry-Jayne Wilson of the Blue Penguin Trust found the penguin colony on the Hodgeman Islets is thriving, demonstrating the distance the Mawson Hut Adelie penguins have to travel is a major factor in the fall of numbers. Tracey Rogers of UNSW also obtained the largest number of seal blubber samples on the expedition while Eleanor Rainsley collected geological samples that will provide an invaluable insight into the history of the East Antarctic Ice Sheet. Returning to the Shokalskiy, conditions started to close in and we quickly loaded the vehicles on to the vessel.”

And then in the Guardian article where he tries to justify the trip, he said this:

“Unfortunately, events unfolded which no amount of preparation can mitigate. To provide a comparison with the samples we collected in the Mawson Hut area, we relocated the vessel to the Mertz Glacier area in the east, a major driver of ocean circulation and importantly an area where the continent is closer to the sea ice edge. Late on 23 December, we returned to the Shokalskiy. We had completed our work programme on the continent and were heading north into open water to continue the oceanographic work on the return home.

Unluckily for us, there appears to have been a mass breakout of thick, multiyear sea ice on the other side of the Mertz Glacier; years after the loss of the Mertz Glacier tongue. There was nothing to suggest this event was imminent”

More damning evidence? In the numbered Australasian Antarctic Expedition 2013 videos on youtube, you will see Parts 13 and 14 showing the trip to Mawson’s huts, and Part 15 shows the first mayday call from the ship. Where is the day or TWO days that is supposed to be between the Mawson trips and being stuck in the ice? Where’s video footage showing the groups on shore collecting samples? Or any photographs from them? Or even ONE of the Mertz Glacier they are supposedly so close to? Was Turney actually in Watts Bay (oh the irony) or Buchannan Bay when he thought he was near the glacier?

Something’s wrong here.

UPDATE:

For the record, the lack of any publicly available and accurate log  (the Live EXPEDITION Tracker on spiritofmawson.com is woefully incomplete) makes interpreting the expedition times and dates a murky proposition at best, and leaves interested parties to interpret other available evidence, such as blog posts, Twitter entries, and other anecdotal records. In that process, along with time zones, and the way certain web pages might log times differently, confusion is likely to set in. In the above third piece by LeAnn, there are some claims that can’t be substantiated either way and speculation abounds. That said, there are some things in LeAnn’s post that are probably a result of that sort of confusion due to lack of a good timeline. From my view Turney’s expedition most likely made it to Mertz glacier, but they did a poor job of documenting it. Social media really shouldn’t be the way to log a scientific expedition.

While LeAnn’s entry raises some questions that are worth seeking answers to, I would caution readers not to speculate until such time those things can be nailed down, and wait until an official expedition log is posted, so that anecdotal information can be reconciled with the official expedition log. Given the intense interest of this expedition, and the fact that it was publicly funded, I think it is incumbent on the spiritofmawson.com website to post a valid trip log so these questions about who/what/when/where can be reconciled.  I look forward to this happening.

Never attribute malice to what can be explained by simple incompetence.

– Anthony

UPDATE2: Other editorial cartoons are following Josh’s lead:

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Source: http://www.pennlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/01/global_warming_irony_global_warming_research.html

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hunter
January 5, 2014 4:10 pm

How many on the expedition would know the Mertz Glacier if they saw it? How many would claim they were visiting the Mertz glacier without questioning what they were told?
Turney is looking more and more interesting: amazing technology that burns without oxygen, a quest for the holy grail of AGW that turned into a publicity lark then into a world wide media spectacle. People really should get to know the good Dr. Turney much better. And not the Turney news release version.

Bob K.
January 5, 2014 4:20 pm

As for establishing the current location of the ship: a web-site exists that records all the “Ships at sea: postions and Weather Observations” here: http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/index.html
Searching by callsign of Akademik Shokalskiy which is UBNF, we can get a map with ship’s position marked on it: http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=UBNF
The map is zoomable down to at least 4 nautical miles / inch.
Now it all depends who and how precisely the position was originally reported…
Btw, callsign of Aurora Australis is VNAA, and of Snow Dragon is either WUR5468, or WTR7440.
Hope this help.

Gail Combs
January 5, 2014 4:21 pm

commieBob says January 5, 2014 at 3:05 pm
It’s not as stupid as it sounds. If you’re going to have a crew working out in the boonies for months at a time, its important to keep up morale….
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am aware of that since I was cook (and organizer) for several cave expeditions and my people ate very well. However the topic is not something I would bring up in an interview about a caving expedition much less a scientific expedition except as a thank you to the cook/organizer.
What this sounds like is amateur hour.

pat
January 5, 2014 4:28 pm

my two cents worth. apologies if it’s been posted before. i recall that the Shokalskiy was trapped – but not stuck – in sea ice from Monday, 23rd December. i commented on WUWT & JoanneNova, complaining that the MSM were keeping to the STUCK since xmas, or STUCK since xmas eve narrative, when in fact the ship was going TRAPPED & going nowhere fast from the 23rd:
26 Dec: Guardian: Stuck in Antarctica’s icy grasp
Trapped in heavy pack ice just off the coast of Cape de la Motte for the past two days, we await icebreaker assistance
Alok Jha and Laurence Topham are with the Australasian Antarctic Expedition
We were meant to be visiting the Mertz glacier this week – named after Douglas Mawson’s trekking colleague and not far from the original Australasian Antarctic Expedition’s base camp at Cape Denison. But plans change as fast as the winds in Antarctica, as I’ve learned in these past week…
By Christmas morning, we were beset with ice. Our expedition was forced into a temporary pause, while we waited for the polar winds to be kind to us and blow the pack ice out of our way…
***We are stuck in heavy pack ice just off the coast of Cape de la Motte and have been here almost two days…
http://www.theguardian.com/science/antarctica-live/2013/dec/26/stuck-in-antarcticas-white-christmas
thought this was interesting on an earlier thread:
Scute commented: This video from the Guardian by Alok Jha and Topham are video evidence for everything Aphan is highlighting from the various blogs. You have to scroll half way down the page to the three videos after the Mawson interview extract.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/antarctica-live/2014/jan/02/antarctic-rescue-akademik-shokalskiy-live-coverage
The first video shows the ship encountering thick pack ice from a long way out (Jha gives the date at times- this could be related to the marinetraffic.com positions for the Sholkalskiy.)
The other two videos below also show some pack shots.
All these videos are in danger of being wiped by the Guardian when they realise their significance to any enquiry and especially if they read this article on WUWT. Can someone here copy and archive?
They were only posted yesterday despite showing activities (and sea ice) as far back as 16th December 2013 and at 65 deg south. This is why I think this is new evidence and will soon be disappeared.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/02/the-cause-of-the-akademik-shokalskiy-getting-stuck-in-antarctica-sigtseeing-mishaps-and-dawdling-by-the-passengers-getting-back-on-ship/

Gail Combs
January 5, 2014 4:33 pm

Ted Clayton says:
I had pointed to Voice of Russia a couple of days ago when someone wanted to know the name of the Russian Captain. Interesting that we had to go to Voice of Russia to find the name.

Aphan
January 5, 2014 4:49 pm

Pat, that’s an AMAZING find. It demonstrates that the AS was NEVER near the Mertz glacier or it’s polynya at all…they never made it there! But Chris Turney has said in comments AND on video interviews that they had “moved the ship to the polynya at the Mertz glacier”. He BLAMES them getting stuck in the ice on a MASSIVE “blow out” of sea ice from the other side of the glacier-like it snuck up on them from out of nowhere..a freak thing. Most likely caused by global warming.
I’m trying to prove that Chris Turney and Mortimer, were either completely inept, OR that they PUT that ship directly into a situation that they KNEW could turn at any moment. Either Chris Turney had no idea where the ship actually was when the storm blew in, (claiming it next to Mertz when it wasn’t) or he knew exactly where he was and he LIED about knowing that the sea ice was coming PRIOR to getting stuck.
Where the ship is stuck NOW is easy to find. I’m trying to find out where it was anchored the FINAL time before the weather closed in. Now I have a witness that says they never reached the glacier. Thank you!

pat
January 5, 2014 4:49 pm

25 Dec: AAP: Sydney Morning Herald: Antarctic tourist ship trapped by sea ice
Australian explorers are stranded near Antarctica after their ship became wedged in thick sheets of sea ice.
The Spirit of Mawson voyage, which includes scientists, explorers
and tourists, is trapped in Antarctic ice floes and awaiting rescue.
But with the nearest ship with ice-breaking abilities at least two days away, the crew will spend Christmas and Boxing Day stuck about 1500 nautical miles south of Hobart.
The ship had been on a multi-day tour from New Zealand to visit several sites along the edge of Antarctica…
It is not known how long the ship has been unable to break free from the ice floes…
http://www.smh.com.au/national/antarctic-tourist-ship-trapped-by-sea-ice-20131225-2zwjr.html
comment i posted on JoanneNova 28 Dec:
all MSM saying the ship has been trapped since Christmas Day, when i have read often it got trapped on Monday 23rd Dec:
27 Dec: NPR Blog: VIDEO: Rescuers Are Drawing Near To Ship Stuck In Antarctic
“There’s a lot of relief amongst the team and there’s lots of happy faces,” expedition leader Chris Turney said Friday in a fresh video posted from the deck of the MV Akademik Shokalskiy — an expedition vessel that’s been trapped by Antarctic Sea ice since Monday…
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/27/257538107/video-rescuers-are-drawing-near-to-ship-stuck-in-antarctic
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/12/merry-christmas-4/
27 Dec: Hobart Mercury:
“There was a change in the weather conditions, such that significant pack ice put itself between us and open water and despite the fact that we have a very capable ship, we were unable to progress any further north and just came to a halt,” he said.
http://www.themercury.com.au/news/rescue-mission-for-trapped-antarctic-ship/story-fnj4f7kx-1226789717821

Jmac
January 5, 2014 4:51 pm

Aphan,
Maybe this can help.
I spent twenty years at sea although not as a navigator.
Basically, a degree of latitude is 60 nautical miles and a degree of longitude is 60 nautical miles times the cos of the latitude.
At the equator a degree of latitude equals a degree of longitude equals 60 nautical miles.
At say 45 degrees North or South a degree of longitude equals cos latitude(45) times longitude which equals 60 nautical miles times cos latitude(45)= 42.43 nautical miles.
As the Earth is an oblate spheroid, there are also other minor corrections: meridional parts.
Willis Eschenbach seems to have experience in this area, maybe he could confirm my explanation, or not.

FundMe
January 5, 2014 4:53 pm

APHAN asks
about degrees of lat or long conversion …1 degree = 60 nautical miles….there are 60 minutes to every degree so 1 min = 1 nautical mile….however this only holds true for latitude anywhere on the globe. For longitude the further from the equator you are the more inaccurate it becomes.

FundMe
January 5, 2014 5:00 pm

At Sea I dont bother with the trig I use a divider to measure the distance on the chart and then compare it to the latitudinal scale to find the longitudinal distance…hope that makes sense.

Editor
January 5, 2014 5:09 pm

Aphan says:
January 5, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Does anyone here read maritime coordinates/longitude and latitude maps fluently that could tell me what the distance is between very slight changes in coordinates in MILES or feet or KM?

There’s a simple convertor at http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml – give it
two lat/longs and it will give you the distance nm/sm/km.
A factoid you might find useful- a latitude change of one degree is 60 nautical miles, a change of one minute is one nautical mile. Good for checking your work.
At latitude 67, a change of one degree of longitude is 23 nm. (It goes from 60 on the equator to zero at either pole.)
Do you have the lat/long data or do you just have maps with spots and lines?

Ted Clayton
January 5, 2014 5:13 pm

John Whitman says: January 5, 2014 at 3:43 pm,

Could they use the Argo’s and / or zodiacs to go from the ship
near Stiilwell island past Cape de le Motte to the area of the face of the Mertz glacier?
By my rough estimation is that would be a round trip of ~100 standard miles.

On the map I pulled up, it was about 30 kilometers from the Cape to Mertz. So 100 miles should be a useful number.
No, under typical/usual conditions, that won’t be a day-trip. It would very slow going, if it could be done at all. If it was really necessary & important, whatever the difficulties, it would readily take a few days, each way.
If it was ideal water, fine visibility, calm, smooth, the Zodiac can go 20-30 mph. But realistically, conditions were poor-to-impossible. It does not take much of a semi-submerged, water-saturated, nearly-invisible chunk of inconveniently placed ice/snow, to flip a Zodiac.
Argos are slow. They have zero suspension, relying on nothing but the pneumatic tires to smooth the way. As a result, they get downright scary at speed – which tops out at typically 20-25 mph. At 10 or 12, you are doing good, and you’re on a known, prepared surface. Across pack-ice, if indeed it could be traversed at all, you will rarely exceed a trot. There are normally many obstacles & dangers on this ice (many of which will be hidden) … and what you scope out today, may be different tomorrow. A few miles is quite a long outing.
They had 4×4 or Quad ATVs, as well. These have real suspensions, and are geared & powered for real speed; 40-60+ mph. As already said, the pack-ice is no place for open-throttle exploration & travel. But once you groom a good trail, they can bomb up & down it at a good clip.
Considering that the weather was mostly bad, and the ice was thick, with lots of ridges, and big cracks, and thin-ice leads between larger pans, and a good skim of drifted fresh & old snow on everything … no, I don’t think they ever traveled more than a few miles on the ice. From the description I’ve seen, the Zodiac was ‘iced-out’, for everything but short landings or crossing open leads to the next floe (a few yards).
If you have information that they got a perfect day at Stillwell Island, with no ice in the water, calm, no chop, clear, unlimited visibility, then the Zodiac could have done it. But still, that would be seriously sticking the ol’ neck out there. Most folks’ survival-instinct would rebel.
That 50 miles or so down-coast in Antartica would just be an awful lot to bite off. Even under perfect conditions.

January 5, 2014 5:20 pm

Some updates on the Akademic Shokalsky from Russian news sources:
Captain Kiselev estimates the Polar Star will reach the ice bound ships around 12th January, assuming no weather hold-ups. “The thickness of the ice we have now is 3-4 meters. The crew feels good – it’s a normal job – everyone understands that the Polar Star is able to bring us to clear water. True, the weather does not spoil us today: a strong south-easterly wind (14 meters per second ), blizzard, visibility about 300 meters. We maintain a constant working relationship with the Chinese ship “Xue Long”, which stands 11.8 miles from us. They are also stuck, thus we have an agreement – just that, we will help each other.”
According to the Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute of Hydromet, weather should change around the 7th-8th, and in particular the wind direction will become Westerly, which may allow a brief window for the vessels to free themselves. After that, Easterlies will return, and the chance of unaided escape would be minimal before the summer ends at the end of the month.

tz2026
January 5, 2014 5:28 pm

Supertankers are ships of fuels, but don’t seem to have these problems.

pat
January 5, 2014 5:31 pm

my two cents worth were meant to show no mention of Mertz glacier, etc:
click on “About this episode: The Return to Mawson’s Antarctica – Part Two ”
this was first broadcast on 23 Dec & was 29 mins.
2mins30secs in: Turney: going back and forward for the past 48 hours;
12 mins in: Luck-Baker interviewing Turney about the rushed visit to Cape Denison, 12 hours to do all the scientific work, with climate change in mind.
26 mins 30 secs: 24 Dec: AUDIO: BBC: Discovery: The Return to Mawson’s Antarctic
Duration: 29 minutes
First broadcast: Monday 23 December 2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01n9gcv/Discovery_The_Return_to_Mawsons_Antarctica_Part_Two/

Konrad
January 5, 2014 5:43 pm

There are many unanswered questions about this farrago of lies, and some of those involve the money. Apparently this expedition cost 1.5 million to set up. Fares from passengers would appear to only account for 500,000 of this.
Do we know of any climate propagandists with 1 million just lying around? The BBC and the Guardian do have a vested interest in keeping global warming alive, but they probably just got free passage. Currently these presstitutes are franticly spinning the “narrative” that this was not anything to do with climate science. Answering the question of who paid for this inanity will answer the question of its true purpose.
Some of the sponsors listed on the expedition website appear to have just donated equipment or services. Did the extra million come from the Australian Research Council? Did the universities listed have a million to blow? Who really paid for this?

January 5, 2014 5:49 pm

It’s interesting that the historic track of the Akademik Shokalskiy seems to have disappeared from sailwx.

Brian H
January 5, 2014 5:58 pm

Paul Coppin;
Thanks for that. Hadn’t heard of this before. Clearly appropriate. Wiki:

Three calls of pan-pan (/ˈpɑːn ˈpɑːn/) in radiotelephone communications,[1][2][3] is used to signify that there is an urgency on board a boat, ship, aircraft, or other vehicle but that, for the time being at least, there is no immediate danger to anyone’s life or to the vessel itself.[4] This is referred to as a state of urgency. This is distinct from a Mayday call, which means that there is imminent danger to life or to the continued viability of the vessel itself.[5] Thus “pan-pan” informs potential rescuers (including emergency services and other craft in the area) that a safety problem exists whereas “Mayday” will call upon them to drop all other activities and immediately initiate a rescue attempt.

commieBob
January 5, 2014 5:59 pm

Gail Combs says:
January 5, 2014 at 4:21 pm

What this sounds like is amateur hour.

Yep. Given that this has messed up the research season for several nations, heads should roll.

Andy
January 5, 2014 6:04 pm

Turney appears late in the climategate files as seemingly the lead in putting together a consortium chasing a NERC grant. Virtually all the major principals of CRU and elsewhere appear to be following his lead in an attempt for a submittal that I read as a hopeful for AR5 inclusion. Did this eventually morph into the Gergis, et al paper?

January 5, 2014 6:18 pm

Aphan says:
January 5, 2014 at 3:14 pm
I’m sure the ship had all kinds of GPS and satellite instruments. I also know that region is SO isolated that they had a hard time getting signals several times, and we all know Chris has problems with numbers and estimations.

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Shouldn’t that be, “…I also know that region is SO ice-solated that…”. 😎

rogerknights
January 5, 2014 6:29 pm

Evidently, Turney applies the Precautionary Principle selectively.

E.M.Smith
Editor
January 5, 2014 6:31 pm

I wonder if Prof Turkey could be in trouble for “Child Endangerment”? At least in places like California, willfully putting your child at risk can result in loss of parental rights…

Monique
January 5, 2014 6:54 pm

Thanks to Anthony Watts for all of the updates. This has been a fascinating and revealing expedition, though almost certainly not in the way that the organizers envisioned.

Brian H
January 5, 2014 6:58 pm

Lying to cover dangerous incompetence rarely ends well, except perhaps in Climate Science.