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Global Warming was just one issue The Club of Rome (TCOR) targeted in its campaign to reduce world population. In 1993 the Club’s co-founder, Alexander King with Bertrand Schneider wrote The First Global Revolution stating,
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
They believe all these problems are created by humans but exacerbated by a growing population using technology. “Changed attitudes and behavior” basically means what it has meant from the time Thomas Malthus raised the idea the world was overpopulated. He believed charity and laws to help the poor were a major cause of the problem and it was necessary to reduce population through rules and regulations. TCOR ideas all ended up in the political activities of the Rio 1992 conference organized by Maurice Strong (a TCOR member) under the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP).
The assumptions and objectives became the main structure of Agenda 21, the master plan for the 21st Century. The global warming threat was confronted at Rio through the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and creation of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It was structured to predetermine scientific proof that human CO2 was one contribution of the “common enemy”.
The IPCC was very successful. Despite all the revelations about corrupted science and their failed predictions (projections) CO2 remains central to global attention about energy and environment. For example, several websites, many provided by government, list CO2 output levels for new and used cars. Automobile companies work to build cars with lower CO2 output and, if for no other reason than to appear green, use it in advertising. The automotive industry, which has the scientists to know better, collectively surrenders to eco-bullying about CO2. They are not alone. They get away with it because they pass on the unnecessary costs to a befuddled “trying to do the right thing” population.
TCOR applied Thomas Malthus’s claim of a race to exhaustion of food to all resources. Both Malthus and COR believe limiting population was mandatory. Darwin took a copy of Malthus’s Essay on Population with him and remarked on its influence on his evolutionary theory in his Beagle journal in September 1838. The seeds of distortion about overpopulation were sown in Darwin’s acceptance of Malthus’s claims.
Paul Johnson’s biography of Charles Darwin comments on the contradiction between Darwin’s scientific methods and his acceptance of their omission in Malthus.
Malthus’s aim was to discourage charity and reform the existing poor laws, which, he argued, encourage the destitute to breed and so aggravated the problem. That was not Darwin’s concern. What struck him was the contrast between geometrical progression (breeding) and arithmetical progression (food supplies). Not being a mathematician he did not check the reasoning and accuracy behind Malthus’s law… in fact, Malthus’s law was nonsense. He did not prove it. He stated it. What strikes one reading Malthus is the lack of hard evidence throughout. Why did this not strike Darwin? A mystery. Malthus’s only “proof” was the population expansion of the United States.
There was no point at which Malthus’s geometrical/arithmetical rule could be made to square with the known facts. And he had no reason whatsoever to extrapolate from the high American rates to give a doubling effect every 25 years everywhere and in perpetuity.
He swallowed Malthusianism because it fitted his emotional need, he did not apply the tests and deploy the skepticism that a scientist should. It was a rare lapse from the discipline of his profession. But it was an important one.
Darwin’s promotion of Malthus undoubtedly gave the ideas credibility they didn’t deserve. Since then the Malthusian claim has dominated science, social science and latterly environmentalism. Even now many who accept the falsity of global warming due to humans continue to believe overpopulation is a real problem.
Overpopulation was central in all TCOR’s activities. Three books were important to their message, Paul Ehrlich’s The Population Bomb (1968) and Ecoscience: Population, Resources and Environment (1977) co-authored with John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, and Meadows et al., Limits to Growth, published in 1972 that anticipated the IPCC approach of computer model predictions (projections). The latter wrote
If the present growth trends in world population, industrialization, pollution, food production, and resource depletion continue unchanged, the limits to growth on this planet will be reached sometime within the next one hundred years.
Here is what the TCOR web site says about the book.
They created a computing model which took into account the relations between various global developments and produced computer simulations for alternative scenarios. Part of the modelling were different amounts of possibly available resources, different levels of agricultural productivity, birth control or environmental protection.
They estimated the current amount of a resource, determined the rate of consumption, and added an expanding demand because of increasing industrialization and population growth to determine, with simple linear trend analysis, that the world was doomed.
Economist Julian Simon challenged TCOR and Ehrlich’s assumptions.
In response to Ehrlich’s published claim that “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000” – a proposition Simon regarded as too silly to bother with – Simon countered with “a public offer to stake US$10,000 … on my belief that the cost of non-government-controlled raw materials (including grain and oil) will not rise in the long run.”
Simon proposed,
You could name your own terms: select any raw material you wanted – copper, tin, whatever – and select any date in the future, “any date more than a year away,” and Simon would bet that the commodity’s price on that date would be lower than what it was at the time of the wager.
John Holdren selected the materials and the time. Simon won the bet.
Global warming used the idea that CO2 would increase to harmful levels because of increasing industrialization and expanding populations. The political manipulation of climate science was linked to development and population control in various ways. Here are comments from a PBS interview with Senator Tim Wirth in response to the question, “What was it in the late 80s, do you think, that made the issue [of global warming] take off?” He replied,
I think a number of things happened in the late 1980s. First of all, there were the [NASA scientist Jim] Hansen hearings [in 1988]. … We had introduced a major piece of legislation. Amazingly enough, it was an 18-part climate change bill; it had population in it, conservation, and it had nuclear in it. It had everything that we could think of that was related to climate change. … And so we had this set of hearings, and Jim Hansen was the star witness.
Wikipedia says about Wirth,
In the State Department, he worked with Vice President Al Gore on global environmental and population issues, supporting the administration’s views on global warming. A supporter of the proposed Kyoto Protocol Wirth announced the U.S.’s commitment to legally binding limits on greenhouse gas emissions.
Gore chaired the 1988 “Hansen” Senate Hearing and was central to the promotion of population as basic to all other problems. He led the US delegation to the September 1994 International Conference on Population and Development in Cairo Egypt.
That conference emerged from Rio 1992 where they linked population to all other supposed problems.
Explicitly integrating population into economic and development strategies will both speed up the pace of sustainable development and poverty alleviation and contribute to the achievement of population objectives and an improved quality of life of the population.
This theme was central to Rio+20 held in June 2012 and designed to re-emphasize Rio 1992.
The Numbers
The world is not overpopulated. That fallacy is perpetuated in all environmental research, policy and planning including global warming and latterly climate change. So what are the facts about world population?
The US Census Bureau provides a running estimate of world population. It was 6,994,551,619 on February 15, 2012. On October 30, 2011 the UN claimed it passed 7 billion; the difference is 5,448,381. This is more than the population of 129 countries of the 242 listed by Wikipedia. It confirms most statistics are crude estimates, especially those of the UN who rely on individual member countries, yet no accurate census exists for any of them
Population density is a more meaningful measure. Most people are concentrated in coastal flood plains and deltas, which are about 5 percent of the land. Compare Canada, the second largest country in the world with approximately 35.3 million residents estimated in 2013 with California where an estimated 37.3 million people lived in 2010. Some illustrate the insignificance of the density issue by putting everyone in a known region. For example, Texas at 7,438,152,268,800 square feet divided by the 2012 world population 6,994,551,619 yields 1063.4 square feet per person. Fitting all the people in an area is different from them being able to live there. Most of the world is unoccupied by humans.
Population geographers separate ecumene, the inhabited area, from non-ecumene the uninhabited areas. The distribution of each changes over time because of technology, communications and food production capacity. Many of these changes deal with climate controls. Use of fire and clothing allowed survival in colder regions, while irrigation offset droughts and allowed settlement in arid regions. Modern environmentalists would likely oppose all of these touted evolutionary advances.
Ironically The Fallacious Problem is The Solution
It all sounds too familiar in the exploitation of science for a political and personal agenda. But there is an even bigger tragedy because the development the TCOR and IPCC condemn is actually the solution.
All of the population predictions Ehrlich and others made were wrong, but more important and damning was they ignored another pattern that was identified in 1929 and developed over the same period as the Mathusian claims. It is known as the Demographic Transition.
It shows and statistics confirm, population declines as nations industrialize and the economy grows. It is so dramatic in developed countries that the population pyramid results in insufficient young people to support the massively expensive social programs for the elderly. Some countries offset this with migration, but they are simply creating other problems. Countries that don’t allow or severely limit migration such as Japan face completely different problems. Some countries offer incentives for having more than two children, such as the announcement by Vladimir Putin in Russia. China took draconian, inhuman, steps by limiting families to one child. The irony, although there is nothing funny about it, is they are now the largest producer of CO2 and their economy booms. If they had simply studied the demographic transition and let things take a normal course the tragedies already incurred and yet to unfold could have been avoided.
The world is not overpopulated. Malthus began the idea suggesting the population would outgrow the food supply. Currently food production is believed sufficient to feed 25 billion people and growing. The issue is that in the developing world some 60 percent of production never makes it to the table. Developed nations cut this figure to 30 percent primarily through refrigeration. In their blind zeal those who brought you the IPCC fiasco cut their teeth on the technological solution to this problem – better and cheaper refrigeration. The CFC/ ozone issue was artificially created to ban CFCs and introduce global control through the Montreal Protocol. It, like the Kyoto Protocol was a massive, expensive, unnecessary solution to a non-existent problem.
TCOR and later UNEP’s Agenda 21 adopted and expanded the Malthusian idea of overpopulation to all resources making it the central tenet of all their politics and policies. The IPCC was set up to assign the blame of global warming and latterly climate change on human produced CO2 from an industrialized expanding population. They both developed from false assumptions, used manipulated data and science, which they combined into computer models whose projections were, not surprisingly, wrong. The result is the fallacy of global warming due to human CO2 is a subset built on the fallacy of overpopulation.
Doug Huffman says:
January 5, 2014 at 3:23 pm
On the Malthusian Fallacy, don’t miss Dan Brown’s latest ‘Robert Langdon’ tale Inferno.
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Thanks for the recommendation, here are a couple more. “1491” and “1493” both by Charles Mann
and “How Civilizations Die” by David Goodman.
Steve from Rockwood says:
January 5, 2014 at 4:37 pm
Egads, what a terrible article.
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Pray tell, why? Make some cogent claim.
When New Zealand had a population less than 2 million it had about the highest standard of living in the world. When I came to New Zealand the population was a little over 2 million. The standard of living was pretty good. University education was free. There was little crime and murders could be counted on the fingers of one hand. I could carry a rifle down the main street of Wellington and no-one would even notice. The police were unarmed. The forests were free to shoot in and trout fishing was a sport of the working man. Now the population is just over 4 million. The standard of living is now near 30th in the world. University education is not free. The crime rate has gone through the roof, comparatively. The murder rate appears to have gone up tenfold. Bank robberies are not unknown. If I appeared on the streets of Wellington carrying a rifle I would probably be shot out of hand by the police. The police now have a gang of rambos or thugs known as the armed offenders squad. They are a bloody menace. The forests are largely closed to shooters. River fishing for trout has been largely buggered with the implementation of green policies. Business regulation has eased but there is far less freedom to pursue one’s interests. Political correctness rules. Give me New Zealand as it was with half the population.
As for what is happening into Britain I would thank my god if I had one that I shook the dust of that country off my feet nearly 60 years ago.
Cheyne Gordon said:
January 5, 2014 at 3:34 pm
Take a walk through the slums of Africa or Asia, and then tell me again that the world is not over-populated.
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The world is not overpopulated, we just need redistribution of population, not of wealth 🙂
However, we also need distribution of education and economic freedom. If the populations of the slums of Africa or Asia were relocated, they would most likely establish new slums.
Consider Hong Kong: one of the most densely populated areas in the world, yet this tiny sector, an enclave of freedom in a communist country, enjoys a thriving economy. Its laws, like those of the U.S., are based upon English common-law, which provide a high level of civil liberty. Their education system is also based upon English models. Compare that to the teeming slums of Africa, Asia, India, etc; they are spawned by ignorance, caste systems and other social stratification, repressive governments, repressive religions.
Freedom, liberty, education, self-determination; these could solve many of the problems in Dr Ball’s excellent article.
The common enemy of humanity is liberalism/socialism/communism.
Reblogged this on CraigM350.
I think the Overpopulation Lie is the single most dangerous lie threatening the well-being and existence of the human species. As pointed out in this article the Global Warming Lie and the Overpopulation are are linked, as each provides justification for the other–and for wars and mass murder.
I just recently acquired a book on the subject from one of my favorite authors, Robert Zubrin. “Merchants of Despair,” 2012, is chock full of information you activists can use to counter these lies. It reveals Malthus as the source of Darwinian racism, and Darwin’s misunderstanding of the competition for survival as the source of the Jewish holocaust of WWII–and identical holocausts perpetrated by Britain and the USA against other peoples.
I also have a catalog of horrors called “Death By Government,” 1994, by RJ Rummel.which discusses “169,911,000 Murdered.” Many or all of those atrocities are also based on the scarcity think discussed in this article.
As to irrigation, that is usually done by the most wasteful methods know, and there are indications that the practices will cause desertification and a reduction of the carrying capacity of the Earth’s land masses for vertebrate life. The solution is neither population reduction, nor a crash in economics and technology, but healthier agriculture, using Israel’s drip irrigation–and Permaculture and Sonic Bloom (R).
The real solutions are not government and bad news, but abundance and tons of fun.
Cheyne Gordon says:
January 5, 2014 at 3:34 pm
“Take a walk through the slums of Africa or Asia, and then tell me again that the world is not over-populated.”
Take a walk through Kasachstan and tell me that the world is overpopulated.
People move to the slums you cite voluntarily to improve their situation. A city might offer some combination of: better food security, better sanitation, electricity, schools, safety from violent conflict, better access to safe water, jobs, a higher standard of living, cinemas, internet, cellphone networks, doctors, culture, availability of illicit drugs, availability of mating partners.
People do not move from the countryside into a city slum if they have no reason to. So there must be reasons, don’t you think so.
Cheyne Gordon says:
January 5, 2014 at 3:34 pm
“Tell that to the elephant, orang-utan and tiger. I’m sure they will happily give up their habitats for you to grow more food”
err not food, not in Borneo, they are being pushed aside by loss of habitat, and in the case of Orangutans actively hunted and killed, to safeguard the new Palm plantations that have been put into the cleared rain forest to produce PALM OIL for BIODIESEL.
I suggest you consider that before you quote the example and try to tag population growth with a Green created issue. Yet another error that the so called Greens have made.
http://www.orangutans.com.au/Orangutans-Survival-Information/About-Palm-Oil.aspx
Pat Frank says:
January 5, 2014 at 4:03 pm
Amazingly, that revolution involved the dual discovery that clover crops increased soil fertility, and that rotating crops husbanded soils further. These two truly revolutionary discoveries increased available farmlands immediately by 1/3 and increased crop yields, both. ……….
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Crop rotation was written by Moses in the bible 3500 years ago so nothing new there.
Exo 23:10 “For six years you shall sow your land and gather in its yield,
Exo 23:11 but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave the beasts of the field may eat. You shall do likewise with your vineyard, and with your olive orchard.
Roger Dewhurst says:
January 5, 2014 at 5:30 pm
“When New Zealand had a population less than 2 million it had about the highest standard of living in the world. […] The standard of living was pretty good. […] Now the population is just over 4 million. The standard of living is now near 30th in the world.”
So you blame that on one single doubling of population. Hmmm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_population_density_1994.png
Man, are you lucky that you don’t live in Germany. Must be terrible here.
Well said Dr Ball. I would like to add that there is only one problem in the world. A trillion+ dollar a year arms race to “protect” ourselves from each other. Now I’m not a pacifist or a “beat your swords into ploughs” type. There is a certain amount of arms required.
Can you name me a problem that can’t be solved with 20% of the arms race funds? Nobody can because a problem that size doesn’t exist. Look at the boom we had world wide in the 1990s. There was a 10% reduction in the global arms race for most of the decade.
Now imagine double that for the rest of time! Not much chance of that happening is there. So we continue to spend to protect our empire (yes it is, get over it). Any percentage of that spent on raising the standard of living for the poor will drop the birth rate as fast as anyone can imagine. But the Mathusians must have their way and humans must be the problem so more war is the answer.
How primitive, sad and pathetic.
GregS @ur momisugly3.19 says: “I’m all for reducing world population, and I’m fed up with growth for growth’s sake.” Humans are the highest development on the planet, the most creative and adaptive animal. Why on earth would you want fewer? Economic growth has driven huge improvements in human well-being over the last 200 years, and particularly the last 60. What’s wrong with that?
TobiasN @ur momisugly 3.32 attributes slowing population growth to pension systems. It has been most pronounced in countries without pension systems.
Cheyne Gordon @ur momisugly 3.34: see above. It’s only when incomes get past a certain level that we begin to put resources into caring for other species and their environment. I first saw Asian slums over 40 years ago, living standards of Asians have soared since then, stopping growth won’t help those still in poverty. Births will fall as they get wealthier.
TobiasN @ur momisugly 3.37 want “a sustainable earth.” Tobias, the Earth will sustain itself until it is overwhelmed by the Sun in 4-4 billion years time. The nature of our planet, and all existence, is continual change – nothing is sustainable; there is no “ideal” state which we could or should preserve.
Gail Combs says:
January 5, 2014 at 5:24 pm
“Unfortunately the truth sometimes hurts.”…………
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Don’t attempt to lecture me …..
I just said it “won’t end good”.
See what I mean ?
Steve B says:
January 5, 2014 at 5:42 pm
Steve B.,
Nice! The lessons taught in the Bible are manifold, to those who can read and understand.
MtK
So the bottom line is that the world is being socially engineered by people who have never been right about anything.
Well…that’s annoying!
The bottom line is – who has the right to decide how many of us live?
A.D.Everard @ur momisugly 4.08: Good point on how people see the world. Travelling overland from England to India in 1972, I got a much better feel for how we are related to our environment and the aggregates with which economists (like me) often deal arise from individual decisions and circumstances. Two years in and around India reinforced this. CAGW proponents generally seek highly centralised, anti-democratic, solutions. As a retired economic policy adviser, I understand that policies to bring about change depend (in a democracy) on a compact between people and government, they can’t be imposed by fiat. Cf the EU. Even in a dictatorship like China, tensions arise when change is imposed by, and favours, an elite few rather than being through a compact with the people.
Dr. Ball,
Great post! I clearly remember reading books like Ehrlich’s back in the ’70s – Remember “Famine 1975! America’s Decision: Who Will Survive?”. Google “Neo Malthusian” and you’ll get this on wiki:
“There was a general “neo-Malthusian” revival in the 1950s, 60s and 70s after the publication of two influential books in 1948 (Fairfield Osborn’s Our Plundered Planet and William Vogt’s Road to Survival). During that time the population of the world rose dramatically. Many in environmental movements began to sound the alarm regarding the potential dangers of population growth.[1] The Club of Rome published a famous book entitled The Limits to Growth in 1972. The report and the organisation soon became central to the neo-Malthusian revival.[26] Paul R. Ehrlich has been one of the most prominent neo-Malthusians since the publication of The Population Bomb in 1968. Other prominent Malthusians include the Paddock brothers, authors of Famine 1975! America’s Decision: Who Will Survive?.”
Of course it was all tosh and nonsense. Speculation based on conjecture mixed with all kinds of turgid, self-centered, self-hating thought patterns generated by wealthy, do-nothings – so-called intellectuals.
Overpopulation? No. Crowding – perhaps in places.
A bigger question for people’s well-being is demographics. Aging populations with a dearth of new births are headed for trouble because there isn’t a new generation to pay for health-care and social security. When populations crash so do economies – look at Detroit and various locales in Eastern Europe to name a couple of places where the local population has crashed. Property values plunge, things fall into general disrepair – people in general are filled with despair and the young do everything they can to move someplace that is “happening”. A balance of young and old – growing; life; hope for the future.
Crowding. Demographics. Forget “Overpopulation”. It is a figment of human imagination. There’s plenty of room for everyone.
DirkH says: @ur momisugly January 5, 2014 at 5:35 pm
….People move to the slums you cite voluntarily to improve their situation…..
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Not necessarily, often they are intentionally driven there.
Two examples:
More recently:
6,994,551,619 relative to 7,000,000,000 is 99.92%. The article is trying to suggest inaccuracy where no such inaccuracy exists, thus setting up the strawman argument that if this is inaccurate, everything else must be inaccurate too.
This is silly. Most of Canada is uninhabitable. It is either too mountainous, too barren, too cold, or water covered (and frozen in winter). 85% of Canadians live below the 49th parallel, far less than 10% of the total land mass of our country. How many people live on Mt. Everest? How many people “could” live on Mt. Everest? Probably the same number of people who could live in much of Canada.
Most of the world is water. Then you have Antarctica. Then the deserts, the mountains, the lakes etc. The reason that most of the world is uninhabitable is because most of the world is uninhabitable.
Yet the author makes no attempt to quantify how much of the Earth is habitable. This is central to his thesis yet it is a statement that goes unanswered.
The two most populous countries in the world (China and India) have rising populations even as their economies grow. Birth rates decline as economies improve so the rate of population increase may decline (population still increases) but the few countries that fall below replacement rate supplant their population through immigration. In fact only Russia’s population is declining that I am aware of (in the developed world).
Quebec also offered such incentives because, without immigration, their population was declining. But these are exceptions to the rule. Why focus on 150 million people when you should focus on the 2.5 billion (China and India) who are increasing in population?
This is my biggest problem with the article. “Draconian” and “inhuman”? No. “Drastic”? Yes. China was facing a serious problem of population growth within its very poor peasant population. Very poor people having many children who would be very poor. They had to stop that and they did. I would refer to the steps as “brave” and “drastic”. The rules have been eased somewhat recently. If you and your spouse were both an only child then you can have 2 children. And of course if you have the money you can have a second child (and always could). I think the cost is around $60,000 to the government. Try spending a few weeks in Beijing and you will realize why these actions were necessary.
You blame China for implementing a one child policy and then blame them for emitting more CO2 than any other country. Do you not realize that without population control the situation would have been even worse? Or are you suggesting that with such over-population China would have failed to improve its economy, far more people would have been in poverty and therefore by total CO2 emissions China would not have “succeeded”.
This is a relative statement and not an absolute one. Yes, the world is not over-populated if you divide the surface area of the earth into the number of inhabitants. But this is a very useless task. The real math is to divide the number of haves into the have nots. In this measure our planet is very over populated.
Conspiracy theory nonsense.
The problem is not how many people are on the planet. The problem is the standard of living of the poorest and how we address that. Clearly, calling CO2 a pollutant and increasing taxes to reduce energy use is not the answer.
Dr Ball, the most worrying thing is that what you say has been demonstrated time after time, yet few are aware of it. They are therefore prone to accept the recurrent scare stories such as the population bomb and CAGW. How to counter this? One tactic I use is to get frequent letters on related topics published in Australia’s national newspaper, The Australian, whose readership is more likely to be interested in such issues than the population at large. I have one or two letters in most weeks, so have developed some credibility with the readers. Michael Cunningham.
In reply to:
“The world is not overpopulated. That fallacy is perpetuated in all environmental research, policy and planning including global warming and latterly climate change. So what are the facts about world population?”
“Population density is a more meaningful measure. Most people are concentrated in coastal flood plains and deltas, which are about 5 percent of the land. Compare Canada, the second largest country in the world with approximately 35.3 million residents estimated in 2013 with California where an estimated 37.3 million people lived in 2010.”
William:
You must be living on a different earth. Have you ever visited China? India? Africa? Are you suggesting that we need more people? That there are not enough people? Clearly you do not have friends or children that are looking for work. I would suggest you spend a week or two in Mumbai and then write something that includes facts and firsthand knowledge.
What you write is removed from logical and reason.
There are limits to resources and more importantly there are limits to the number of well paying jobs.
When there are more people than there are jobs, wages go down. Jobs move to the lowest cost of production. There is a race to the bottom. (Same as happened in the great depression.) Initially the low paying manufacturing jobs moved to Asia. That was followed by call centers and company computer help centers and other medium level jobs. Now the higher paying jobs, such as software and engineering are moving from the developing countries to Asia.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390443545504577566752847208984
China’s Graduates Face Glut
“China’s universities have churned out more than 39 million graduates with undergraduate or specialized degrees over the past decade, according to the Ministry of Education. People with some college education now account for about 8.9% of China’s population, according to 2010 government data. While that’s a much smaller proportion than the 36.7% of the adult population in the U.S, it’s a sharp rise from China’s 3.6% in 2000.”
http://www.industryweek.com/the-2000s
America lost 5.7 million, or 33%, of its manufacturing jobs in the 2000s. This is a rate of loss unprecedented in U.S. history—worse than in the 1980s, when BusinessWeek warned of deindustrialization and worse than the rate of manufacturing job loss experienced during the Great Depression. While U.S. manufacturing has clawed back, regaining about half a million of those lost manufacturing jobs since 2010, there’s little doubt that the 2000s constituted the worst decade for manufacturing employment in the Republic’s history.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/01/05/343888/new-delhi-witnesses-over-40-percent-rise-in-crime-in-2013/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_populous_cities_in_India
You can put the entire population of the world in Texas at one sq. yd./per.
TRM says: @ur momisugly January 5, 2014 at 5:43 pm
…But the Mathusians must have their way and humans must be the problem so more war is the answer.
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They make a heck of a lot of money out of war and kill off part of the population while they are at it. A win-win from their point of view.
Those persons most frightened by living, are the most aggressive in trying to impose their solutions on everyone else.
It is no coincidence that the most ardent believers in CAGW are also convinced the number of men on this planet is a signal of doom.
@Greg S 5:15, good work but if you also obsess over atmospheric CO2 you need to hold your breath.
It should be no surprise to find that the most intrusive do-gooder, who seek to control all, run your life for you, usually thro the use of a bureaucracy, are frightened of everything.
Not having a life, terrified of children, they devote themselves to saving you.
Reason and honest discussion are not part of their toolkit.
It is always such an urgent matter, that you must surrender your self determination.
We are here to help, we are from the government.
I am coming to the conclusion, a tax on do-gooders shall be compulsory, for all freemen.
155% of their gross income will encourage wisdom.
Or take the pun and make it like whack a snake day.
For some people are indeed so stupid, unreasonable and dangerous that you must drive them into exile.
For todays Chicken Littles I propose Coats Island in Hudson Bay Canada.
It is perfect, no permanent residents(as far as I know), no “carbon intensive infrastructure.
Exile yourselves to this paradise, show me how this eco-friendly, zero carbon life style works.
Naturally I would predict a guaranteed zeroing of population, if you practiced what you preach.