IPCC silently slashes its global warming predictions in the AR5 final draft

Guest essay by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

Unnoticed, the IPCC has slashed its global-warming predictions, implicitly rejecting the models on which it once so heavily and imprudently relied. In the second draft of the Fifth Assessment Report it had broadly agreed with the models that the world will warm by 0.4 to 1.0 Cº from 2016-2035 against 1986-2005. But in the final draft it quietly cut the 30-year projection to 0.3-0.7 Cº, saying the warming is more likely to be at the lower end of the range [equivalent to about 0.4 Cº over 30 years]. If that rate continued till 2100, global warming this century could be as little as 1.3 Cº.

Official projections of global warming have plummeted since Dr. James Hansen of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies told the U.S. Congress in June 1988 the world would warm by 1 Cº every 20 years till 2050 (Fig. 1), implying 6 Cº to 2100.

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Figure 1. Projected global warming from 1988-2019 on three scenarios (above), and from 1988-2060 on scenario A only (below), based on Hansen (1988), who testified before the U.S. Congress that June that scenario A was his business-as-usual case. The trend from 1988-2050 on that scenario (arrowed) is approximately 0.5 Cº/decade.

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IPCC (1990: p. xi) projected warming of 0.2-0.5 Cº/decade to 2100. IPCC (1995: p. 6) projected 0.1-0.35 Cº/decade. IPCC (2001: p. 8) projected 0.13-0.43 Cº/decade to 2050. IPCC (2007: p. 13, table SPM.3) projected 0.11-0.64 Cº/decade to 2100.

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Figure 2. Near-term warming projections (2005-2050) relative to 1986-2005, based on 42 models (colors) against observations (black). The second-order draft of IPCC (2013) projected global warming at 0.4-1.0 Cº over 30 years (red arrows), equivalent to 0.13-0.33 Cº/decade. The final draft projected warming at 0.4-0.7 Cº over 30 years (green arrows), equivalent to just 0.10-0.23 Cº/decade. Diagram based on IPCC (2013, Fig. 11.25a).

The second-order draft of IPCC (2013: fig. 11.33) had projected 0.13-0.33 Cº/decade to 2050. However, the final draft slashed this projection to 0.10-0.23 Cº/decade (Fig. 2), the IPCC’s best guess being closer to the lower than to the upper bound of the revised range.

The projected range in the second-order draft had been consistent with the models, but the revised range in the final draft was at the low end of models’ projections (Fig. 3). Implicitly, the IPCC no longer accepts that models accurately project warming.

The IPCC says:

“Overall, in the absence of major volcanic eruptions – which would cause significant but temporary cooling – and, assuming no significant future long term changes in solar irradiance, it is likely (>66% probability) that the GMST [global mean surface temperature] anomaly for the period 2016–2035, relative to the reference period of 1986–2005, will be in the range 0.3°C–0.7°C (expert assessment, to one significant figure; medium confidence).” (IPCC, 2013, p. 11-52).

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Figure 3. Above: Models’ global warming projections, 2016-2035 vs. 1986-2005, against the IPCC’s projected interval of 0.4-1.0 K over 30 years, equivalent to 0.13-0.33 K decade–1 (between the gray dotted lines, based on IPCC 2013, 2nd draft, fig. 11.33c). Below: Final draft’s revised interval of 0.3-0.7 K over 30 years or 0.10-2.33 K decade–1, visibly at the low end of models’ projections (based on IPCC, 2013, fig. 11.25c). This implicit rejection of the models’ forecasting skill has passed unnoticed until now. Reviewers of the second draft were not consulted about the change in the IPCC’s key near-term projections, though many had argued for it.

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The IPCC’s explicit reliance on its own “expert assessment” rather than upon the models’ projections is a significant climbdown. However, even its reduced best estimate of 0.13 Cº/decade may still be on the high side. Observed outturn since 1950 has been below 0.11 Cº/decade (HadCRUT4, 2013: Fig. 4).

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Figure 4. Global mean surface temperature anomalies and 0.11 Cº/decade least-squares trend, January 1950 to November 2013 (from HadCRUT4 data).

That is not all. Despite record increases in CO2 concentration, there has been no global warming for almost 13 years (mean of GISS, HadCRUT4, NCDC, RSS, & UAH temperature data: Fig. 5), or, by satellite measurements, for more than 17 years (RSS, 2013: Fig. 6), and no warming distinguishable from the combined measurement, coverage, and bias uncertainties for 18 years (HadCRUT4, 2013: Fig. 7).

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Figure 5. Monthly global mean surface or lower-troposphere anomalies (dark blue) and least-squares linear-regression trend (bright blue: mean of GISS, HadCRUT4, NCDC, RSS, and UAH data), January 2001 to November 2013, showing no global warming for almost 13 years notwithstanding continuing rapid increases in atmospheric CO2 concentration (gray).

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Figure 6. Despite a near-linear increase of 2 μatm/year in CO2 concentration (NOAA, 2013, gray), the least-squares linear-regression trend (bright blue) on the RSS satellite monthly global mean lower-troposphere anomalies (dark blue) has been zero for 17 years 3 months (207 months).

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Figure 7. HadCRUT4 monthly global mean surface temperature anomalies and trend, February 1996 to November 2013, showing a linear trend entirely within and hence indistinguishable from the combined measurement, coverage, and bias uncertainties.

In the light of the growing divergence between projection and observation, a direct comparison between the IPCC’s now-reduced near-term global warming projections and observed temperature change since 2005 is of value as a performance indicator for the models’ global-warming projections.

Fig. 8 shows such a comparison, based on the downgraded projections in IPCC (2013, fig. 11.25a: see Fig. 2 above). In the nine years since 2005, a divergence of 0.15 Cº has occurred.

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Figure 8. Orange region: Models’ projections of global warming, January 2005 to November 2013, on the interval 1.33 [1.0, 2.33] Cº/century (from IPCC, 2013, fig. 11.25a). The second draft’s mid-range estimate is the final draft’s high-end estimate; the former low-end estimate is now the central estimate. Thick red trend-line: central projection of 0.12 K warming over the 107-month period, equivalent to 1.33 Cº/century. Gray curve and trend-line: monthly CO2 concentration anomalies (NOAA, 2013) and 18 μatm (198 μatm/century) trend, which caused 0.24 W m–2 forcing (or 0.35 W m–2 including other anthropogenic forcings). Of the 0.21 Cº warming projected to arise from this forcing, almost half was previously committed. Thick bright blue trend-line: Global cooling of 0.03 Cº (0.30 Cº/century: mean of five datasets). Over the period, the models over-predicted global warming by 0.15 Cº (1.6 Cº/century).

Multiple lines of evidence now confirm that the models and consequently the IPCC have overestimated global warming. Yet neither that misconceived organization nor any of its host of unthinking devotees has displayed any remorse. Instead, they persist in maintaining that the warming is temporarily paused, though they cannot really explain why; or they blame particulate aerosols, their get-out-of-jail-free fudge-factor; or they pretend warming is really continuing unabated, saying it has gone into hiding deep in the oceans where, conveniently, we cannot measure it, or that the Earth-atmosphere system has a fever driven by four atom-bombs’-worth of heat content increase every second.

What they are not prepared to countenance, notwithstanding the real-world, measured evidence, is the growing probability that they and their precious models have so badly misunderstood the climate, or so well understood it and so badly misrepresented it, that global warming is simply not going to occur at anything like any of the exaggerated rates that they had until now so confidently over-predicted.

Do not underestimate the importance of the IPCC’s climbdown, albeit that it is furtive and that there is not a hint of it in the Summary for Policymakers – the only part of the latest assessment that lazy politicians and incurious journalists may ever get around to reading.

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Figure 9. Five projections of global warming, 1990-2050, compared with the linear trends on two observed datasets. IPCC projections are mid-range estimates. The trend (green) on the HadCRUt4 monthly global mean surface temperature anomalies reflects the warming at 0.11 K decade–1 observed since 1950. The trend (dark green) on the RSS satellite data reflects the zero trend that has now persisted for more than 17 years. Both observed trends are extrapolated to 2050.

If anyone ever again tries to tell you The Science Is Settled, as the now-axed Klimate Kommissariat in Australia is still trying to do in its latest taxpayer-funded propaganda sheet, point to Fig. 9 and ask two questions.

First, point to the red zone marked Projections and ask which of the very wide range of official projections The Science has Settled upon.

Secondly, point to the green zone marked Observations and ask why the real climate has so persistently failed to pay any attention to the Settled Science.

Then sit back and listen to the increasingly demoralized and disjointed flannel. As the nonsense runs down, the game is up.

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References

GISS, 2013, Monthly global mean surface temperature anomalies, 1880-2013, from http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata_v3/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt.

HadCRUT4, 2013, Monthly global mean surface temperature anomalies, from www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcrut4/data/current/time_series/HadCRUT.4.2.0.0.monthly_ns_avg.txt.

Hansen, J., I., Fung, A. Lacis, D. Rind, S. Lebedeff, R. Ruedy, and G. Russell, 1988, Global climate changes as forecast by Goddard Institute for Space Studies Three-Dimensional Model. J. Geophys. Res. 93 (D8): 9341-9364.

IPCC, 1990, Climate Change – The IPCC Assessment (1990): Report prepared for Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change by Working Group I, J.T. Houghton, G.J. Jenkins and J.J. Ephraums (eds.), Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, Great Britain, New York, NY, USA and Melbourne, Australia, 410 pp.

IPCC, 1995, Climate Change 1995 – The Science of Climate Change: Contribution of WG1 to the Second Assessment Report, J.T. Houghton, L.G. Meira Filho, B.A. Callander, N. Harris, A. Kattenberg, and K. Maskell (eds.), Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, Great Britain, New York, NY, USA and Melbourne, Australia.

IPCC, 2001, Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [Houghton, J.T., Y. Ding, D.J. Griggs, M. Noguer, P.J. van der Linden, X. Dai, K. Maskell and C.A. Johnson (eds.)]. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, United Kingdom, and New York, NY, USA, 881 pp.

IPCC, 2007, Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 2007 [Solomon, S., D. Qin, M. Manning, Z. Chen, M. Marquis, K.B. Avery, M. Tignor and H.L. Miller (eds.)], Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, United Kingdom, and New York, NY, USA.

IPCC, 2013, Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fifth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change [Stocker, T.F., D. Qin, G.-K Plattner, M. Tignor, S.K. Allen, J. Boschung, A. Nauels, Y. Xia, V. Bex, and P.M. Midgley (eds.)], Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, United Kingdom, and New York, NY, USA.

NCDC, 2013, Monthly global mean surface temperature anomalies, 1880-2013, from ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov

/pub/data/anomalies/monthly.land_ocean.90S.90N.df_1901-2000mean.dat.

NOAA, 2013, Monthly mean atmospheric CO2 concentration anomalies, 1958-2013, from ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/co2_mm_mlo.txt.

RSS, Inc., 2013, Global mean lower-troposphere temperature anomalies, 1979-2013, remss.com/data/msu/monthly_time_series/RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v03_3.txt.

UAH, 2013, Satellite MSU monthly global mean lower-troposphere temperature anomalies: vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt.

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Werner Brozek
January 2, 2014 8:15 pm

Update: RSS for December is now out and the time for a zero slope went up a month to 17 years and 4 months from September 1996 to December 2013.

January 2, 2014 9:56 pm

“The rats are the first to leave a sinking.ship.”
I’m sure this addage is empirically based. It’s an observation.
Empirical observation causes this latest IPCC backpedal, (The largest yet.)
Let’m squirm.

January 3, 2014 2:40 am

@Monckton of Brenchley
I’m not disagreeing with you that the central estimate of near-term warming was reduced between AR4 and AR5. This is indeed the case, as a result of the slower warming in recent years.
My objection, as John Whitman correctly notes, is to your rhetoric. You seem to be attempting to paint a picture of the IPCC somehow surreptitiously “climbing down”, which is simply untrue.
You say:

the IPCC is no longer confident in the ability of the models accurately to predict near-term warming

This is incorrect, as there was not much confidence in the first place. As I showed with the AR4 figure, the uncertainty range for the previous near-term temperature projections was quite large, and indeed it spanned zero. Yes, a small probability of cooling was judged possible. This is not exactly a sign of high confidence in the ability to predict near-term warming! The IPCC did not have the former confidence that you are claiming. There is no “climb down” – just ongoing developments in science.
Incidentally, you described your post as “businesslike and scientific”, but to me it reads as political. There does seem to be a bit of a theme that whenever some aspect of climate science moves in a direction favoured by sceptics (e.g.. observations or models showing/projecting slower warming) then this gets tagged as being “admitted” (you use that word above), or “conceded”, or done “silently” or “quietly”. It’s almost as if some people simply don’t understand the scientific process, and think that it works like a legal or political process with one side pitched against the other. It seems to me that your use of “admitted”, “silently” etc helps you build the narrative of mainstream scientists being your adversaries who are gradually giving way on their position – but this is a false narrative. Science evolves based on evidence, and if the evidence points to slower warming in recent years and in the near future, then fine, that is what the scientific conclusions will be.

January 3, 2014 2:59 am

Forgive my strong reply but this is quite infuriating.
There seems to be a misapprehension that climate science evolves based on evidence. That is incorrect. Science evolves based on evidence. Climate science is a closed club that denigrates alternate views. It is a pseudo-science, despite the failed efforts of Richard Betts to restore some credibility to the field.
For example take these quotes about Lord Monckton (when he dared to ask for a debate)

Professor Frame said Lord Monckton was trying to bait scientists into a debate on climate change.
“But I am not under an obligation to debate with Lord Monckton because he has no credibility and no expertise in this field.”
Professor Boston confirmed he had been contacted about hosting Lord Monckton at the university, but declined.
“I thought I would be doing the public and the university a disservice by in any way supporting an event involving Lord Monckton.”

Copied from here:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/national/8545516/Sceptics-ire-amuses-but-views-retain-sting
In science evidence is accepted and the conclusions derived based on the evidence. In pseudo-science like astrology and climatology the conclusion is pre-detemined and evidence chosen that fits. Other evidence is silenced and certainly never debated.
(The IPCC looks for Antropogenic Global Warming and so cannot accept that it may be negligable)
It is quite reasonable for a scientist to look down on climatologists for acting surreptitiously. They do as they have to. Otherwise they would need to debate the real evidence – about 17 years so far – which is contrary to the core purpose of the IPCC.
Has anyone ever noticed that no other (scientific, not religious) field has copied the formation of an IPCC structure to determine truth? Why is that?

January 3, 2014 3:43 am

Richard Betts:
Your post at January 3, 2014 at 2:40 am begins by saying to Monckton of Brenchley

I’m not disagreeing with you that the central estimate of near-term warming was reduced between AR4 and AR5. This is indeed the case, as a result of the slower warming in recent years.
My objection, as John Whitman correctly notes, is to your rhetoric. You seem to be attempting to paint a picture of the IPCC somehow surreptitiously “climbing down”, which is simply untrue.

The only untruths are yours.
Viscount Monckton’s above article concerns changes between the IPCC AR5 SPM and the AR5 so-called ‘science’ report. Your attempt to pretend the article is about changes between the AR4 and AR5 is a ‘red herring’ which can only be understood to be extreme trolling.
As Viscount Monckton says in his above article concerning the AR5

But in the final draft it quietly cut the 30-year projection to 0.3-0.7 Cº, saying the warming is more likely to be at the lower end of the range [equivalent to about 0.4 Cº over 30 years].

That is simply true, and your sophistry does not – and cannot – alter it.
Importantly, the “rhetoric” of Viscount Monckton is correct.
The IPCC has “climbed down” and has provided the “climb down” in a manner which is not only “surreptitious” but is also in flagrant contradiction of the IPCC’s own agreed and formally adopted procedures.

I explained this above in my refutation of the similar nonsense to that which you present when it was provided by Billmelater. This link jumps to my explanation.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/01/ipcc-silently-slashes-its-global-warming-predictions-in-the-ar5-final-draft/#comment-1521470
Richard

Matt Skaggs
January 3, 2014 8:49 am

Thank you Dr. Brown for your very astute comments on both the need to understand natural variability before we can meaningfully predict future climate, and also your statements regarding the desirability of not burning through our fossil fuels so rashly. Reading your comments on a thread like this is like finding a treasure in a junk store.

January 3, 2014 11:26 am

Matt Skaggs:
re your post at January 3, 2014 at 8:49 am.
Yes, Robert Brown does make good comments and has made some in this thread. But that is not why I am writing this post.
You write of his comments on this thread as being like

like finding a treasure in a junk store

Say what!? “A junk store”?
We are only in the first week of January and your post may turn out to be the best piece of concern trolling during the entire year. Congratulations.
Richard

Matt Skaggs
January 3, 2014 12:56 pm

OK Richard, now I am looking at you.
In a Jan 2, 6:19 am comment RichardSCourtney wrote:
“Any ‘science’ which fails to support that political purpose [of bolstering CAGW] is ‘amended’ in furtherance of the IPCC’s Role.”
In a Jan 3, 3:43 am comment (the same) Richard wrote:
“’But in the final draft [the IPCC] quietly cut the 30-year projection to 0.3-0.7 Cº, saying the warming is more likely to be at the lower end of the range (equivalent to about 0.4 Cº over 30 years).’ That is simply true.”
It is also true that the most difficult place to recognize junk is in your own closet.

January 3, 2014 2:23 pm

Richard Betts on January 3, 2014 at 2:40 am said,
@Monckton of Brenchley
My objection, as John Whitman correctly notes, is to your rhetoric. You seem to be attempting to paint a picture of the IPCC somehow surreptitiously “climbing down”, which is simply untrue.

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Richard Betts,
I agree that the subject ‘furtive’ rhetoric by Monckton about the AR5 process has little merit . . . but on the other hand the IPCC’s inherently subjective behavior that serves to support biased assessments is, in my view, the thrust of what is being implied by Monckton even without his rhetoric. If I am correct that it is his implication then I support Monckton.
FYI => In this thread and in my frequent comments on this venue for the past several years I have maintained that the IPCC has implemented a new concept of science which is subservient to the promotion of mere preconceived ‘a priori’ ideas.
On a personal note: I admire your calm measured demeanor in the dialog on this thread. It adds a good dimension. Thanks.
John

January 3, 2014 2:39 pm

Matt Skaggs:
I am replying to your “junk” at January 3, 2014 at 12:56 pm.
This is a link to my entire post which you attempt to vilify.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/01/ipcc-silently-slashes-its-global-warming-predictions-in-the-ar5-final-draft/#comment-1521470
I am content for people to click the link and to read what I wrote. They will see I linked to and quoted the IPCC’s own documents. If that is “junk” then complain to the IPCC, not me.
You trolls swarm to any thread which presents indisputable facts you don’t like. It is because the truth hurts warmunists.
Richard

DJG
January 3, 2014 4:59 pm

If the IPPC’s previous predictions were so wrong, what reason is there not to expect that their most recent predictions aren’t also wrong? Did they predict that there would be no warming in the last 17 years? No, they missed that one too.

Matt Skaggs
January 4, 2014 8:05 am

Richardscourtney wrote:
“You trolls swarm to any thread which presents indisputable facts you don’t like. It is because the truth hurts warmunists.”
Gosh, Richard, for a self-appointed comment cop, you seem to not be paying much attention. I am a CAGW skeptic who has been making primarily scientific comments here for a number of years. What I don’t share is the political views of folks like you and Monckton, nor will you find many examples of me using schoolyard taunts like “warmunist” or “troll.” In fact I am living proof that it is possible to be a CAGW skeptic and still believe that sustainability is a moral imperative, a viewpoint that is eloquently elucidated by Dr. Brown above.

January 4, 2014 9:51 am

Matt Skaggs on January 4, 2014 at 8:05 am said,

@Richardscourtney wrote:
“You trolls swarm to any thread which presents indisputable facts you don’t like. It is because the truth hurts warmunists.”

Gosh, Richard, for a self-appointed comment cop, you seem to not be paying much attention. I am a CAGW skeptic who has been making primarily scientific comments here for a number of years. What I don’t share is the political views of folks like you and Monckton, nor will you find many examples of me using schoolyard taunts like “warmunist” or “troll.” In fact I am living proof that it is possible to be a CAGW skeptic and still believe that sustainability is a moral imperative, a viewpoint that is eloquently elucidated by Dr. Brown above.

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Matt Skaggs,
Thank you for expressing those views.
On this wonderful venue, I am often disappointed with the righteous troll accusations by a few self-appointed vigilantes whose demeanor toward those with differing views tends to suppress the spirit of open dialog here.
Re: sustainability => I think the topic of sustainability initially expressed on this thread by rgbatduke (on January 2, 2014 at 11:03 am) needs a lot more precision of definition and full expansion wrt free individual volunteerism versus authoritarianism . . . and it must venture more clearly into the very fundamental basis necessary for any valid economic calculation and ownership. In other words it needs very open dialog without troll namecalling.
John

January 4, 2014 11:59 am

Matt Skaggs:
I see you are still trolling at January 4, 2014 at 8:05 am.
Viscount Monckton and I have very, very different political views. And that has NOTHING to do with why each of us promotes good science and opposes the AGW-scare.
You called everything which does not concur with your views “junk”, and when I called you on it you misrepresented a post I had made.
Stop trolling.
Richard

January 4, 2014 12:05 pm

John Whitman:
re your ridiculous post at January 4, 2014 at 9:51 am.
Each and every post from Matt Skaggs has been a troll comment.
I am not “disappointed”, I am outraged that you would cl;aim support for this site while supporting trolling.
If you really support “this wonderful venue” then have the guts to support the presentation of all views while opposing trolls whose purpose is to prevent debate.
Richard

Elaine Coker
January 4, 2014 1:24 pm

I just love it when GOD makes a fool out of the elitist morons.

January 4, 2014 7:24 pm

richardscourtney on January 4, 2014 at 12:05 pm
Whitman:
re your ridiculous post at January 4, 2014 at 9:51 am.
Each and every post from Matt Skaggs has been a troll comment.
I am not “disappointed”, I am outraged that you would cl;aim support for this site while supporting trolling.
If you really support “this wonderful venue” then have the guts to support the presentation of all views while opposing trolls whose purpose is to prevent debate.
Richard

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richardscourtney,
Disagreement on the most fundamental of concepts is the essence of the most important knowledge dialogs. We can burn away all irrelevancies in that crucible.
Troll accusations are detrimental to that.
Why persist?
Fear?
John

January 4, 2014 10:05 pm

John Whitman:
I am replying to your questions concerning my objections your sophistry which you present in your ridiculous post at January 4, 2014 at 7:24 pm.
.

I persist because I am trying to stop trolling (i.e. attacks on rational discourse)

An example of such trolling is your implication that I am afraid of you and/or Matt Scaggs’ nonsense.
Trolls attempt to prevent discussion of a subject by using a variety of methods to deflect the discussion onto something else.
Anth0ny W@tts hosts this blog so he chooses the subjects for discussion, and this thread is about
IPCC silently slashes its global warming predictions in the AR5 final draft
That is a wide subject which encompasses the IPCC, IPCC Procedures, IPCC global warming predictions in the AR5, the “slashing” of those predictions, reasons for and justification of the “slashing”, and the “silent” manner of the slashing.
This thread is
NOT about your self adulation,
NOT about your like of trolling,
NOT about Matt Scaggs flaming that discussions of the thread’s subject are “junk”,
NOT about Matt Scaggs misrepresentation of a post I made,
NOT about Matt Scaggs desire for “sustainablility” (whatever that is),
and
NOT about Matt Scaggs erroneous assertions of my and Lord Monckton’s politics.
This thread IS about
IPCC silently slashes its global warming predictions in the AR5 final draft
If you want discuss matters other than the subject of this thread then find a thread which discusses those other matters or establish your own blog for the discussion. Frankly, I don’t think there would be much traffic on a blog established for presentation of your narcissism.
For myself, I will continue to support rational discourse and, therefore, I will continue to oppose trolls.
Richard

January 5, 2014 10:21 am

richardscourtney on January 4, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Whitman:

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richardscourtney,
The subject troll accusation(s) is (are) name-calling.
It is invalid logically and is not appropriate in basic intellectual discourse.
Personally, I am surprised it is occurring on this venue.
John

January 5, 2014 1:12 pm

John Whitman:
I am writing as a courtesy to let you know that that I read your daft post at January 5, 2014 at 10:21 am.
If you were to answer my post at January 4, 2014 at 10:05 pm then I would address your answer. But I shall ignore any further posts from you similar to that which I am replying: I have better things to do than waste time responding to idiocy.
Richard

Danny
January 7, 2014 4:25 pm

Too many lies for even this to be believed.

January 8, 2014 2:31 pm

richardscourtney,
The subject troll accusation(s) is (are) name-calling.
It is invalid logically and is not appropriate in basic intellectual discourse.
Personally, I am surprised it is occurring on this venue.
John

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richardscourtney,
In reply to your latest comment to me, my above quoted previous comment to you remains relevant.
You persist, even in your most recent comment to me, to defend chronic name-calling and in doing so to keep on insulting.
Who here on this thread has treated you that way? I do not recall anyone doing so.
I would like to know who here on this venue has historically ever treated you that way?
John

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