Over half the USA covered in snow, the most in 11 years

I find it hard to take predictions of snow/no snow seriously. I’ve lived in eastern North Carolina, New Orleans, SW Michigan and central Virginia. What’s “normal” is largely a matter of latitude and what’s unusual at latitude varies every year. My only interest in the snow cover map is next week I’m going from no snow to very white, driving.
Seems to me that we have periodic weather variations. Winters are warmer and colder. In NC, it seemed that the really bad winters came every 5 years or so. The only observation I can make after 2/3 century of observations is to bet against any prediction made. The expert climate scientists ought to step back and look at trends before making fools of themselves. As for, Mr. Gore, the moment he said it, I knew what the result would be.

Brian H at 5:44 responds to starzmom at 4:54
I don’t know about what you do when recalling a day and month of temperature but I just look at the charts for a nearby station; for example
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/climate/temp_graphs.php?stn=KYKM&wfo=pdt
I can see on the 7th, 8th, and 9th it was nearing record lows but today it is much warmer but not near a record.

A very well-written site: “Sunrise’s Swansong“, tracking a floating weather station or two on the ice, and following the local consequences across the NH of lows and highs above 60°N in some detail, written by a geologist cum meteorologist cum part-time professional poet. Uses enlargeable DMI charts and maps very informatively. Dip into it, you might like it.

Martin says that 53% of the US is covered in snow because of Arctic warming. I am so grateful to those climate scientists who can tell us exactly why unexpected weather happens with such precision and accuracy so soon after that unexpected weather has happened. Have a great day climate scientists and keep up the good work.

I think I have spotted a pattern!
It appears to get cold every winter in the northern hemisphere.
I am not sure if it covers the whole NH, I’ll have to apply for another grant to do more research to get that answer.
🙂

Jeff Alberts says:
December 15, 2013 at 2:56 pm
Ronald says:
December 15, 2013 at 11:48 am
The fun part is that this wil bring temperature down and so the averige temperature. And yes that means that its not warming up. But stil december wil be 0,6 degrees C to warm. It wis time that someone looks at the raw temperature data to figure out were we realy standing. My bet will be between 10.5 and 11.5 degrees C
We don’t know if such a thing will bring temps down or not. There’s no way to tell if any cold trend as a result would have been there anyway.
On my edge of the map (Pacific Northwest) it’s about 20f warmer now than it was a week ago.
I just don’t think albedo has that much of an effect.
Jeff your wrong. Its narrow minded thinking what you do. Its so simple but yet difficult to understand.
Try first to look at how climate works. Find the different climate regions and look how the climate there works.
If you look t that up you cane figure this one out to. The weather makes the climate and the climate makes the weather. Difficult hu. No not really.
Yes I now about the bullshit about local is no climate but yes it is. Let me tell you. Do I need to explain to you how a year looks? I don’t hope so.
Every day you experience weather wet, dry warm, hot name it you have it. Every day you could masseur the temperature and if you have the good thermometer you get 2 readings 1 the lowest and 1 the highest temperature dose 2 make the average day temperature. To make things short at the and you have a monthly average and later on you will get the yearly average.
Thats still not climate yes your wright about that. But all over the world are stations recording the same data and now satellites do the same. So all over the world there are monthly and later yearly average temperatures written down. And all those together make the climate. You see its easy you cane say what climate your in by looking at the average temperature thats way AGWers are so busy altering the temperature up.
I hope that by now you figured out how the climate regions work and now you found out that some regions have a very steady climate. Other regions are more flexible so to speak.
At the end all what counts is the average year temperature.
To giff some holding points.
We now from the past that the climate optimum was about 16 degrees C and an ice age will be as cold as 8 degrees at average that is. Smack in the middle there is 12 degrees. Now you cane see when you have global warming or cooling or its just fine in the middle.
Now for the relay hard stuff. I hope this works. Its still a work in progress.
jan feb mar apr mei jun jul aug sep okt nov dec tot gem
10 12 13 15 18 20 21 21 20 16 14 12 192 16
5 6 8 10 13 22 22 24 20 15 12 10 167 13,9166666667
3 4 6 8 15 30 35 38 22 12 10 8 191 15,9166666667
10 15 16 18 12 10 10 13 14 12 20 22 172 14,3333333333
4 6 8 10 12 14 18 22 18 14 12 8 146 12,1666666667
10 10 11 12 13 14 15 14 13 11 10 10 143 11,9166666667
12 12 13 14 15 16 17 17 16 15 13 12 172 14,3333333333 officel noaa
10 12 12 13 14 16 16 15 14 14 12 10 158 13,1666666667
what you see are the months and the average temperature for that month.
First how to get to the climate optimum and then some altering I did the same whit 12 degrees and also whit 14 degrees using the official NOAA data thats the second lowest line.
If somewhere the average temperature is down the average year temperature comes down to. Or there must be the same amount of warming somewhere els in the year. Becaus we don’t see that we now the average temperature will be down.
Now you cane see that warming cant make the world go cold because the average temperature will go down. And only if there is a much higher temperature to counteract you have a serious cooling problem. BTW the same thing cane be done for your local place and is fun to. I found out that for my place to get near average I would need 3 months of 40 degrees C temperatures, we didn’t have that so its to cold to be global warming.
Of courses there is the fudging problem we do not now exactly what the temperature is.
Is it 0.5 degrees lower or even 3 degrees lower?
However what we cane do is look at the weather because we just found out that weather tells us about the climate.
A short one for now you cane fill in the rest. northern hemisphere to cold. Southern hemisphere not relay warm. And whit its fare amount of cold to. Southern pole ice keeps growing the north pole ice is 60% up to last year. There are place on the globe where it is snowing what did-en t happen for more then 100 years.
So what dose that tell you now about the climate?

The extra winter snow is the result of cold arctic air diverted south by the much increased wobbles of a weaker jet stream.
This is now known to be caused by the lower temperature differential between equator and poles as revealed by satellite measurements confirming the polar amplification of AGW.
But do not worry, while snow is highly variable in amount from year to year the one clear trend is in the decreasing amount of spring snow cover which has been melting more and disappearing earlier for several decades.
With clear implications for the albedo.

I was in the direct path of this storm (Dionne, hee hee). Usually a heavy snow this early in the season melts off within a few days. It’s now been well over a week and my yard and deck is still fully covered. The school buses are still white on top from the snow. It’s been damn cold, so cold yesterday that the lock was frozen on my car door. Greetings from snowy Arkansas. We will welcome the coming warming stint. Yes we shall indeed. “Oh, I wish I was in the land of cotton!”

Felix says:
December 15, 2013 at 9:35 pm
NASA has November 2013 as the globally warmest November on record. At +.77 C above the baseline period of 1951-1980, last month ties with October 2005 as having the largest positive anomaly in the record.
Trust NASA to tell you only part of the story . According to NCDC/NOAA ,for Contiguous US , November 2013 was 0.27F below the baseline of 1901-2000 with a temperature of 41.64F. this was only the 49 warmest on record . Not even worth writing home . What NASA is not telling you is that Northern hemisphere winters have been getting colder for 17 years now . They will only tell you half the story to make it look like only warming is happening .