Guest post by David Middleton
In my Internet “debates” with warmists, I occasionally encounter challenges like this…
We don’t yet not know the real global impact man has on the environment. It may be negligible. What we do know is that if the oil companies with their billions could disprove this manmade warming they could in an instance. They have not.
My response to this challenge is in the style of David Letterman…
Dave’s Top Ten Reasons Why the Oil Industry Doesn’t Spend its Billions on Disproving the Junk Science of AGW
10) It’s impossible to prove a negative.
9) The burden of proof is on those who wish to bankrupt these United States of America in order to reverse this…
8) The climate is always changing, always has, always will. There is absolutely no evidence that modern climate changes are exceeding the pre-human range of variability. There are anthropogenic influences which modify the climate’s natural oscillations. Very few scientists in the oil industry doubt that anthropogenic activities affect the climate. We just know for a fact that those effects are not causing the climate to change in ways that exceed the normal variability of the Holocene and that such effects are likely to be so small that they can’t be differentiated. Otherwise, the Warmists would have long ago clearly differentiated the anthropogenic from the natural. Furthermore, none of the proposed solutions are economically feasible, nor would they mitigate climate change in any measurable way.
7) The “oil industry” is composed of corporations engaged in the various aspects of oil & gas exploration, drilling and production. These corporations are owned by people, usually shareholders, who invested their own money for the purpose of making a profit on the exploration, drilling and production for and of oil and natural gas. They didn’t invest their money in science projects, particularly not junk science projects.
6) We already have full time jobs. I do this as a hobby because it combines my professional skills as a geoscientist and 25 years of experience (out of nearly 33) working in a Quaternary-Upper Tertiary sedimentary basin, with my longtime interest in palaeoclimatology.
5) The Warmists have already proven that AGW is wrong. The lack of global warming since the late 1990’s forced them to morph “global warming” into “climate change,” “global weirding,” “global climate disruption,” and other temperature-neutral descriptions.
4) The Warmists have already proven that AGW is wrong – Part Deux. Every conceivable weather, health, agricultural, botanical, zoological and even geophysical incident is “consistent” with the Gorebotic AGW “theory.” Thus rendering their “theory” un-falsifiable and rendering it unscientific. Kevin Trenberth of NCAR even declared the no longer scientific theory to be un-falsifiable when he stated that the “null hypothesis” principle should be reversed for AGW.
3) The Warmists have already proven that AGW is wrong – Part Trois: That pesky climate sensitivity thing. Gorebot Prime, James Hansen, formerly of NASA-GISS and now a full-time political activist, first proved that AGW was wrong 25 years ago and then delivered an endless stream of idiotic alarmism. Back in 1988, he published a climate model that, when compared to his own temperature data, substantially disproves AGW…
GISTEMP has tracked the Hansen scenario in which a Gorebotic utopia was achieved more than a decade ago. Hansen’s model used an equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) of 4.2°C per doubling of pre-industrial CO2. The IPCC “consensus” is 3.0°C. The maximum physically possible ECS is no more than 2.0°C. The maximum physically possible ECS, consistent with the observations, is about 1.0°C. Recent papers have concluded that solar forcing has been underestimated by a factor of six and CO2 forcing is much lower than the so-called consensus estimate. “Scenario B” might be the most relevant prediction because CH4 and CFC’s have followed closest to the “C” trajectory, while CO2 has tracked “A”. If you look at the model results, there is little difference between “A” and “B” in 2010…
Hansen describes “A” as “business as usual” and “B” as a more realistic or “Lite” version of “business as usual.” “C” represents a world in which mankind essentially undiscovered fire in the year 2000. The actual satellite-measured temperature change since 1988 tracks below “C,” with the monster ENSO of 1998 being the only notable exception…

Since CO2 tracked “A”, CH4 and CFC’s tracked “C” and temperature tracked below “C,” the atmosphere is far less sensitive to CO2 than Hansen modeled. The atmosphere was essentially insensitive to the ~50ppmv rise in CO2 over the last 24 years. Hansen may have inadvertantly provided solid support for this “inconvenient truth.”
2) The Warmists have already proven that AGW is wrong – Part Quatre: A model of failure. Let’s give Gorebot Prime, Jimbo Hansen, a pass. His 1988 model reflected old science and old computers and surely the models have gotten better over the last quarter-century… Or not.
STILL Epic Fail: 73 Climate Models vs. Measurements, Running 5-Year Means June 6th, 2013 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D. […]
In this case, the models and observations have been plotted so that their respective 1979-2012 trend lines all intersect in 1979, which we believe is the most meaningful way to simultaneously plot the models’ results for comparison to the observations. In my opinion, the day of reckoning has arrived. The modellers and the IPCC have willingly ignored the evidence for low climate sensitivity for many years, despite the fact that some of us have shown that simply confusing cause and effect when examining cloud and temperature variations can totally mislead you on cloud feedbacks (e.g. Spencer & Braswell, 2010). The discrepancy between models and observations is not a new issue…just one that is becoming more glaring over time. It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out in the coming years. I frankly don’t see how the IPCC can keep claiming that the models are “not inconsistent with” the observations. Any sane person can see otherwise. If the observations in the above graph were on the UPPER (warm) side of the models, do you really believe the modelers would not be falling all over themselves to see how much additional surface warming they could get their models to produce? Hundreds of millions of dollars that have gone into the expensive climate modelling enterprise has all but destroyed governmental funding of research into natural sources of climate change. […] Dr. Roy Spencer
[Assuming whiny Gorebot voice]… Oh… That tricky Roy Spencer. That’s just the tropics and it goes way back to 1979… That’s unfair! The science is verified! The models are right! Or not… The following CMIP5 model was parameterized (fudged) to accurately retrocast HadCRUT4 from 1950-2004.
Eight years and out! Within eight years, the observed temperature is on the verge of dropping out of the lower error band. This model from Kaufmann et al., 2011 simulated natural and anthropogenic (primarily CO2) forcing mechanisms from 1999-2008. Natural forcing won by a score of 3-1.
Although, the authors seem to have concluded that anthropogenic forcing related to global cooling were masking theanthropogenic forcing” related to global warming. This is to be expected because, obviously, the Earth’s climate was static prior to the incorporation of Standard Oil Company… Models are great heuristic tools; but they cannot and should never be used as substitutes for observation and correlation. I can build a valid computer model that tells me that a geopressured Cibicides opima sandstone at depth of 15,000′ should exhibit a Class 3 AVO response. If I drill a Class 3 AVO anomaly in that neighborhood, I will drill a dry hole. A little bit of observation and correlation would quickly tell me that productive geopressured Cibicides opima sandstones at depth of 15,000′ don’t exhibit Class 3 AVO anomalies. 99% of petroleum geologists and exploration geophysicists would laugh you out of the room if you seriously thought a model was superior to actual observations.
2) The Warmists have already proven that AGW is wrong – Part Cinq: That pesky climate sensitivity thing – Subpart Deux. In our last episode of climate sensitivity, we reviewed Jimbo Hansen’s spectacularly wrong Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity of 4.2 °C. Now we will move on the current alleged consensusECS of 3.3 (±1.1) °C (Nothing like a 33% error bar to instill confidence!)…
The equilibrium climate sensitivity values for the AR4 AOGCMs coupled to non-dynamic slab ocean models are given for comparison (Box 10.2, Figure 1e,f; see also Table 8.2). These estimates come from models that represent the current best efforts from the international global climate modelling community at simulating climate. A normal fit yields a 5 to 95% range of about 2.1°C to 4.4°C with a mean value of equilibrium climate sensitivity of about 3.3°C (2.2°C to 4.6°C for a lognormal distribution, median 3.2°C) (Räisänen, 2005b).
For good measure, the consensus-teers of the IPCC toss in this bit of gratuitous alarmism…
Studies comparing the observed transient response of surface temperature after large volcanic eruptions with results obtained from models with different climate sensitivities (see Section. 9.6) do not provide PDFs, but find best agreement with sensitivities around 3°C, and reasonable agreement within the 1.5°C to 4.5°C range (Wigley et al., 2005). They are not able to exclude sensitivities above 4.5°C.
This explains the Gorebotic caterwauling from Climategate University…
“Our research predicts that climate change will greatly reduce the diversity of even very common species found in most parts of the world. This loss of global-scale biodiversity would significantly impoverish the biosphere and the ecosystem services it provides…
[…]
The good news is that our research provides crucial new evidence of how swift action to reduce CO2 and other greenhouse gases can prevent the biodiversity loss by reducing the amount of global warming to 2 degrees Celsius rather than 4 degrees.”
The Washington Post’s energy and environment inexpert…
“The current level of action puts us on a pathway towards a 3.5–4°C warmer world by the end of this century.”
And Third World poverty pimps…
The World Bank predicts that we are on track to a rise of 4 degrees Celsius in temperatures by the end of this century. This would mean a rise in sea levels of three to seven feet.
There is not one single scrap of evidence that the current rate of emissions will lead to more than 2 °C warming (relative to 280 ppmv CO2) by 2100 (we’ll get to sea level in subsequent posts). Every recent observation-based estimate of the equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) to a doubling of the assumed pre-industrial CO2 level has been in the range of 1-2 °C and nearly 1 °C of this has already occurred. Asten, 2012 found ECS to be 1.1 ± 0.4 °C based on δ18O and δ11B records from fossil forams and the Eocene-Oligocene transition in marine sediment cores from DSDP site 744. Earlier this year, researchers at CICERO and the Norwegian Computing Center announced that when they incorporated the temperature and CO2 data from 2000-2010 into their instrumental record-based ECS estimate, they obtain a most likely value of 1.9 °C. This work has yet to be published. Lewis, 2013 found a most likely ECS of 1.6 °K (same as C for these purposes) using a Bayesian analysis and incorporating recent data. Masters, 2013 found a most likely ECS of 1.98 °K from ocean heat content and sea surface temperature data… Aldrin et al, 2012 and Forster & Gregory, 2006 also found the ECS to most likely be less than 2 °C. Yet the IPCC, Climategate CRU and other alarmist ideologues continue to prattle on as if the ECS in the range of 4-5 °C or higher…
1) The joke is just too damn funny for us to spoil…
Obama’s global-warming folly
By Charles Krauthammer, Published: July 4
The economy stagnates. Syria burns . Scandals lap at his feet. China and Russia mock him , even as a “29-year-old hacker” revealed his nation’s spy secrets to the world. How does President Obama respond? With a grandiloquent speech on climate change . Climate change? It lies at the very bottom of a list of Americans’ concerns (last of 21 — Pew poll). Which means that Obama’s declaration of unilateral American war on global warming, whatever the cost — and it will be heavy — is either highly visionary or hopelessly solipsistic. You decide: Global temperatures have been flat for 16 years — a curious time to unveil a grand, hugely costly, socially disruptive anti-warming program. Now, this inconvenient finding is not dispositive. It doesn’t mean there is no global warming. But it is something that the very complex global warming models that Obama naively claims represent settled science have trouble explaining. […] For the sake of argument, nonetheless, let’s concede that global warming is precisely what Obama thinks it is. Then answer this: What in God’s name is his massive new regulatory and spending program — which begins with a war on coal and ends with billions in more subsidies for new Solyndras — going to do about it? The United States has already radically cut carbon dioxide emissions — more than any country on earth since 2006, according to the International Energy Agency. Emissions today are back down to 1992 levels. And yet, at the same time, global emissions have gone up. That’s because — surprise! — we don’t control the energy use of the other 96 percent of humankind. […] Net effect: tens of thousands of jobs killed, entire states impoverished. This at a time of chronically and crushingly high unemployment, slow growth, jittery markets and deep economic uncertainty. But that’s not the worst of it. This massive self-sacrifice might be worthwhile if it did actually stop global warming and save the planet. What makes the whole idea nuts is that it won’t. This massive self-inflicted economic wound will have […] For a president to propose this with such aggressive certainty is incomprehensible. It is the starkest of examples of belief that is impervious to evidence. And the word for that is faith, not science.






You forgot reason #11 (or maybe #0): It’s usually cheaper to just buy a Senator or two 🙂
(actually, this may not be sarcasm).
The author was quoting the paper. It’s in the abstract here:
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-12-00473.1
@ur momisugly Brian H &.Polycicritic,
I was quoting the paper… However, 1.6 K is the correct notation.
Unless AGW believers CAN irrefutably separate natural cycles and the effects of human activity and prove it categorically, they have no case to put whatsoever.
Re the piece by Mr Krauthammer:
“How does President Obama respond? With a grandiloquent speech on climate change .”
“Obama’s declaration of unilateral American war on global warming, whatever the cost — and it will be heavy — is either highly visionary or hopelessly solipsistic. You decide: Global temperatures have been flat for 16 years — a curious time to unveil a grand, hugely costly, socially disruptive anti-warming program.”
“For a president to propose this with such aggressive certainty is incomprehensible.”
No, it is not incomprehensible. It is good politics. Take a stance on stopping something that is thought to be BAD, and announce a major campaign against it. Two possibilities – it exists or it doesn’t exist. If it does exist there are two possibilities – you fix it or you don’t fix it. If you fix it, good. You may even get some kudos. If you don’t fix it you are in dead lumber.
But if it doesn’t exist, down the track you can show that it doesn’t exist. You can show that you have spend billions and it doesn’t exist. You can really show to everybody it doesn’t exist. Great! This means that you have done what you said you would and have ‘fixed’ a problem. Great kudos! Everybody is happy – you get re-elected, or at least your party does. Joy can be unconfined!
And Mr Krauthammer thinks President Obama’s action is incomprehensible? Compare Johnson’s War on Poverty. Compare Nixon’s War on Drugs. Real problems, total failure. President Obama has picked the soft option. In three years time he announces with great fanfare: “The World is NOT Warming!” His policies worked, didn’t they?????????????
I acknowledge and thank the others who have also made this point, but this is well worth repeating…
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CodeTech says: December 14, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Nope, oil companies have absolutely NO interest in debunking AGW, and have financed the AGW machine quite well. Those who don’t get it are in denial of reality.
You can’t swing a cat without hitting a Rockefeller-funded enviro-activist group in Canada so I don’t know where this ‘big oil funds deniers’ meme even comes from … the opposite is true.
Thanks for sharing your “hobby” with us.
Reading this post, it is like the whole history of the Global Climate Coalition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Climate_Coalition) has been disappeared!!!
The fact is that the fossil fuel companies and other companies did indeed try to fight openly against the science for a while. However, around the turn of the millenium, the scientific evidence reached a point where it was no longer credible to oppose the scientific consensus…and the group fell apart (although some companies, like Exxon, continued to fund organizations like the Competitive Enterprise Institute that continued to attack the science).
joelshore says:
“…that continued to attack the science.”
There is no credible ‘science’ supporting catastrophic AGW. None.
To be credible, science must have testable measurements that show the degree of global warming per unit of CO2 emitted by human activity,
There are no such measurements.
I trust that sets the record straight.
I skimmed your APEGGA article. Too bad you didn’t have this New Zealand investigative report on Enron and Kyoto published in October 2005: http://www.investigatemagazine.com/archives/2006/03/investigate_oct_5.html This linked article is a poorly formatted copy of the magazine original, and subject to the same formatting issues that were rife then. But bear with it. It is a trove of detail. Unfortunately the research links at the bottom are not longer available, although I read them at the time and saved them somewhere.
This appears to be an update of it: http://www.thebriefingroom.com/archives/2008/03/nov_05_au_editi_4.html
You will also find this 30-minute show with researcher Vivian Krause multo-interesting as well, specifically what’s happening with the US charity payoff of the tribes NE of Fort McMurray, and in the interior of BC that she discovered in US tax returns:
Joel Shore
fails test questions a refrigeration student can pass.
(1)Do you realize it’s impossible to illuminate a sphere, spinning, in vacuum, to stable temp
then immerse it spinning
in a frigid nitrogen/oxygen bath
and and have temperature go up,
rather than
down?
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Refrigerator technician: Yes I do.
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Joel Shore: “No – you- you don’t understand!!” “That happens all the time! Its in all the textbooks!”
“Honest!”
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(2)Do you realize it is impossible to wrap insulating, light diffracting media, around a sphere illuminated to stable temp in vacuum
removing 20% energy to sensors on the surface
and have heat sensors distributed across the surface,
show more energy arriving,
than when more energy was?
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Joel Shore: “Why that happens every single day! Every body knows that!”
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Refrigeration student: {Looks at Shore} “Woah. What a screw up.”
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(3)Do you recognize the impossibility
of wrapping reflective insulation around a sphere heated in vacuum until 25% energy in
is removed from sensors,
and have those sensors indicate
yet more heat
than when there was 20% removed
by identical physically reflective/diffracting media?
—-
Joel Shore: “Oh, yew just don’t understand the magic of
quantum bull shooting from a professional grant whore!”
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Refrigeration student: “LoL! That’s crazy. ZERO for t.h.r.e.e.”
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T.H.R.E.E. FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS
which function as
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“Is Joel D Shore delusional?”
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checks.
People must cease using the meaningless term “climate change”.
The issue has always been about anthropogenic global warming … that carbon dioxide emitted by human activities is causing catastrophic global warming and is the key driver of climate change, otherwise known as “the IPCC mantra”.
Every time sceptics use the term “climate change” they are just adding to the confusion put out by propagandists about this issue, which just adds even more confusion over the issue to an already confused society.
If we all get back to basics, and talk about dangerous global warming (which isn’t happening), the easier it will be to neutralise the propaganda pumped out by global warming alarmists. But if people keep referring to climate change, well, they’re doing a disservice to the efforts of those trying to expose the propaganda pumped out by the alarmists.
Whilst it is impossible to prove a negative it is possible to check the models against the real world. Check the GHG theory predictions against reality. Look at ice core data, which shows that it is temperature that drives CO2 not the reverse. Check the IPCC egergy flow model, in AR4, which is so far from reality to be a real JOKE. Show that the GHG theory violates the laws of thermodynamics.
EASY, but impossible for a company that wishes to sell its products to a gullible public.
joeldshore says:
December 14, 2013 at 8:35 pm
around the turn of the millenium, the scientific evidence reached a point where it was no longer credible to oppose the scientific consensus.
Really? Do tell! Your view of history is as warped as your view of science is. That is, it isn’t based on fact, only pure emotion. The “scientific evidence” was scant then, and never improved, and the “scientific consensus” was pure hype-driven fantasy.
Okay, debunk anything you like. Wonder why the Pentagon is so worried, Also, did the continuing and significant rise in sea levels occur due to an icy comet crashing down, that hasn’t made the news yet…or because the ocean is warming and water is expanding?
The two main components of sea level rise are 1) thermal expansion and 2) glacial retreat (negative mass balance, ice melting/ablating faster than accumulating).
Thermal expansion only occurs when the climate is warming. There has been little to no net thermal expansion since the most recent phase of warming stopped between 2001 and 2003.
Glacial retreat will generally occur whenever the climate isn’t significantly cooling. The most recent period of significant glacial advance (positive mass balance, ice accumulating faster than ablating) was during the Little Ice Age. Most alpine/valley glaciers, like Glacier National Park, reached their maximum Holocene extent during this period. Most glaciers will remain in a state of negative mass balance until the climate begins to cool on a similar scale as the Little Ice Age.
This is why the average rate of sea level rise dropped from ~3.5 mm/yr to ~1.8 mm/yr since 2003. Since many other factors affect sea level, it’s not rising everywhere and the rate is extremely variable locally and regionally.
The oceans are the proximal drivers of climate change at sub-tectonic scales. Like the climate, sea level has oscillated on several cycles of varying frequency and amplitude throughout the Holocene. We have been in the positive phase of the ~1,000-yr cycle since can. 1600 AD and in the negative phase of the ~60-yr cycle since 2001-2003.
From a NatGeo article…
“Core samples, tide gauge readings, and, most recently, satellite measurements tell us that over the past century, the Global Mean Sea Level (GMSL) has risen by 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). However, the annual rate of rise over the past 20 years has been 0.13 inches (3.2 millimeters) a year, roughly twice the average speed of the preceding 80 years. ”
Just sayin’…
And, yes, as you said, sea level rise at any given point on the globe is variable, but only because the land adjacent to the ocean is rising and/or falling…
@Frish,
Sea level rose at the same rate in the early 20th century, before anthropogenic carbon emissions became significant, when the atmospheric CO2 concentration was 315-330 ppmv. Then it stopped rising in the mid-20th century.
From ~1980-2003, sea level was rising at a rate of nearly 4 mm/yr. Since 2003, the rate has been less than 2 mm/yr. Sea level, like the climate oscillates on multiple cycles of different frequencies and amplitudes.
Sea level was roughly 2 meters higher than it currently is during the Holocene Climatic Optimum (~4-7 ka), when atmospheric CO2 levels were supposedly 270-290 ppmv.
Sea Vail et al, 1977, Blum et al., 2003, Jevrejeva et al., 2008 and the recent paper in GRL by the CU sea level team. I linked to it in a previous comment.
My next WUWT submission will deal with Quaternary sea level oscillations… assuming I find the time to finish it.
Terrestrial subsidence and emergence do not affect the height of sea level, the parameter measured by satellite altimetry. Go to the CU sea level site and look at the sea surface map.
Frish says:
Okay, debunk anything you like. Wonder why the Pentagon is so worried
What, pray tell, makes you think they’re “worried”? Can you wrap your brain around the concept “follow the money”?
Allan MacRae says:
December 14, 2013 at 11:55 am
Excellent point! Capitulation in the face of lies is never good and the oil industry has done so, in many cases. The green ads placed by oil, gas and coal companies are particulary obnoxious and since they are viewed by so many, simply help to support the lies. History teaches us that the left lives by the lie and only the truth can combat the lie. George W Bush, I am sure, was trying to be a gentleman and did not fight back against all the lies and personal destruction aimed at him during his presidency and look and how that worked out for the cause his party. I would say that history will judge this as his greatest mistake but, unfortunately, lies that go unchallenged become historically accurate. Those who win the wars write the history, even the war of words.
If people are going to talk about temperature and climate PLEASE get your units straight
A degree C has a larger temperature span than a degree F
A degree C is 9/5 of a degree F, a unit of Kelvin (K) is the same as a unit of C they just start at different points
K starts at absolute zero and C starts at freezing point of water (32 deg F)
The range between freezing point and boiling point is 100 degrees in C (Celsius)
0 deg C = 32 deg F = freezing point of water
100 deg C = 212 deg F = boiling point of water
Celsius and Fahrenheit are the same temperature at minus (negative) -40
Fortunately Canada started its switch to metric when I was in grade three and my grade was chosen as the grade to be switched over
I had new books throughout elementary school and grew up being fully versed in both systems.
Just some info to help those that don’t know temperature units.
“10) It’s impossible to prove a negative.”
Can you prove that it is not possible to prove a negative? If so, you will have proved a negative.
It is, in fact, often possible to prove negatives.
http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf
http://www.discord.org/~lippard/debiak.html
The fact is, energy companies provide much funding to alarmists and very little to skeptics. The reason is simple; those companies expect to make money trading carbon credits and allowances, as advocated by alarmists, which are nothing but adders to the prices ordinary consumers pay for energy. Inter alia, carbon credits are a very effective way of redistributing wealth – from average and low-income people to billionaire investors in green energy.
To Frish:
You wrote: “Okay, debunk anything you like.
Wonder why the Pentagon is so worried.”
You might consider this. The Pentagon takes orders from the CinC–who
just HAPPENS to be one Barack H. Obama. As in David
Middeton‘s point above, this individual Barack H. Obama
has declared that global warming is a huge problem. That means he has
ordered the Pentagon to consider it a huge problem. You don’t become
a general or an admiral without learning to play the political game. So
they salute and say, “Sir, yes sir!” and go off to find some lieutenant
colonel to head up a task force. Said task force will inevitably include
the usual suspects from universities and green organizations, whose
findings are predetermined by their funding.
I hope I’ve been able to clear up this point for you.
Oh, I see. This is an anti global warming site that uses little bits of immaterial information to bolster your anti science stance. All those climate scientists are wrong, and you are right.
Where’s YOUR Nobel?
Where’s YOUR millions of peer reviewed papers?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
REPLY: Well, I don’t know of a scientist in history that has had millions of peer reviewed papers, but I suppose your point is that volume matters over substance.
As for Nobel prizes, one only need to look at Al Gore, to see how useful that is to the debate: http://wp.me/p7y4l-pQp
– Anthony
Oh, and by the way, the pentagon was concerned about global warming long before Obama was elected. Republicans went out of their way to shut it down. But facts don’t get into the bubble, do they?
REPLY: Citation? Facts need to be presented, as we just don’t take the word of angry ranters – Anthony
To Mike:
You might want to remember, that 2007 Nobel prize was NOT
for Physics or Chemistry, but was the PEACE prize. IOW,
in the opinion of the awarding body, the work of the IPCC
and Al Gore were judged the most significant contributions to
“world peace” that year.
The Nobel prize committee used to be honest enough to admit
that there were years when they couldn’t find an excuse to
award the peace prize (e.g., 1972, 1967, 1966). Now–
not so much, even if they have to invent criteria.