Pierre Gosselin writes:
Europe Climate Policy Blows Engine…”Giant Failure” … Scientists “Failed Tricking Their Way Past Democracy” …”Mood Of Resignation”
Good news!
This is about one of the most damning pieces on the European climate movement I’ve read all year. An atmosphere of resignation is truly sweeping through Germany’s climate movement. Flagship media are waking up.
We’re winning!
“Failed tricking their way past democracy”
Germany’s equivalent of the Washington Post, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) has written a blistering criticism of Hans Schellnhuber’s WBGU and activists’ efforts to impose a green authoritarian society on the rest of the world. They overshot and missed the curve. The FAZ introduction reads:
The rescue of the planet gets cancelled. The climate advisory council to the government played high stakes poker. And lost. They failed at tricking their way past democracy.”
In the eyes of one Germany’s leading flagship national dailies, the renowned Frankfurter Allgemenine Zeitung, the attempted green coup led by a small group of elite scientists and a mass of activists has come to grinding halt.
– See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/11/30/europe-climate-policy-blows-engine-huge-failure-scientists-failed-tricking-their-way-past-democracy-mood-of-resignation/#sthash.pULr2101.dpuf
As the green scam dies, the next wave of #IceAge earth alarmism is born again, Stories are already appearing, again with alarmist headlines warning of impending frozen DOOM!
These 2 opposing concepts seem to fight each other over and over, one gaining ascendance in the public psyche, to be replaced by the resurgence of the other. Expect these same alarmist pro-ipcc pro cagw scientists, these prophets and priests of the fiery death and apocalypse by #CO2 to come to an epiphany and re-emerge as the new prophets of the icepocalypse.
Remember, reasoned discussion does not open the floodgates to billions of dollars in research funding, useless amelioration projects and donations to NGO’s like the WWF.
I caution the readership from exhibiting the sort of triumphalism one usually associates with warmists
It would be a tragedy of AGW dissapeared for reason of politics, rather than because it was just junk science.
Now I come in from a fairly political angle, and I am delighted. IN fact green idols are being toppled everywhere right now.
But this does not advance the cause of good science, merely halts bad science in its tracks. We also owe a duty to reclaim Science FOR Science.and wrest it out of the hands of politicians and marketeers of shoddy product.
A good place to start would be any advertisement that uses ‘science’ to ‘prove’ A quick call to the relevant standards authority citing Popper should do the trick…
It has begun, http://t.co/HWgz1ALnMI “The choice may be global warming or a new Ice Age, say scientists”
The hype for funding will never cease, too many people will not just jump ship but change sides completely to ensure they get their piece of this newest pie.
Ghastliest unintended mixed metaphor of the week prize goes to a comment about climate change using the phrase ‘a sea change is in the wind’. This is something, up with which, we will not put…
Alfred Deakin of the Commonwealth of Australia says:
December 1, 2013 at 2:29 am
“I have never been able to believe that the Germans believe that warmist shite. Surely, they are too smart? Wake up, Germany!”
They are smart but misinformed. The choir of the media here is nearly entirely synchronized; lead by the most expensive (per capita) “public media” (i.e. state media) complex in the world.
Currently we are forced to hand over 8 billion Euros a year for the financing of this giant desinformation apparatus; 100 EUR per capita per year, or 130 USD.
Furthermore, there is NO debate of basic values, natural rights, the foundations of Western civilisation, so no German I know can even start to debate such concepts. They are not given the foundations; “Big Statism” is the ONLY philosophy they know; NOWHERE in the last election campaign were the words “lower taxes” or “smaller government” ever even muttered!
The words “statist” or “statism” do not even exist in the German language! The German word “statist” means extra in a film production.
The parties fight over irrelevant non-problems. The real and big problems, of which warmism is only a minor one, are neither recognized nor analyzed.
The age of German philosophers is over for good; this territory is not a state, not a nation, not a democracy, and will not bring forth any idea that will help it solve its problems, as the intellectual basis has been erased.
BTW, it has been designed this way, by the occupation forces, so thanks for that.
Nick Stokes, AKA “the Black Knight”, already missing two arms and two legs, says “It’s only a Flesh Wound!!! Come back and fight, you cowards! I’ll bite you to death with my teeth! The Black Knight Never loses!!!”
The struggle between the true environmentalists and the greens with red inside that is happening in Germany is happening in most countries in the west to some degree .It is like the struggle between the original pollution control agenda and the current desire for people control agenda It is as old as time . Each generation has to fight the battle to some degree. Freedom requires constant vigilance. Glad to see that P. Gosselin is keeping us up to date to what is happening in Europe and Germany.
“Freedom from fear and injustice and oppression will be ours only in the measure that men who value such freedom are ready to sustain its possession —- to defend it against every thrust from within or without “(Dwight Eisenhower)
A “choice between global warming or a new ice age”? Re-branding the same idiocy. That was Arrhenius’s dream, that we could, by virtue of our CO2 emissions stave off an ice age. Unfortunately, he was wrong. We humans don’t get to choose our climate (except by moving to a different one); climate chooses us.
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Penny Robinson Fan Club says:
November 30, 2013 at 10:47 am
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Never imagined I’d see a website like yours! Yes, Angela Cartwright is still gorgeous & endearing after all these yrs. The episode where she went into a different dimension thru a silvered mirror was haunting & very effective.
This is hot. It should be top post for a while. Maybe get noticed by other journalists.
Leo Smith says:
December 1, 2013 at 3:07 am
Nothing unintended or mixed about it. The seas are caused by the wind.
_Jim says:
November 30, 2013 at 11:29 am
“I think the road to the ‘seizure of power’ takes a lot of different avenues, anywhere. Some are just more organized that others (depending on how ‘advanced’ a society is)”
I think there are just a few avenues to the ‘seizure of power’. The first is overwhelming brute force. But the more civilized way is a simple 5 step process that is so common that we do not even recognize it:
1. Adopt a noble cause
2. Exaggerate the threat to the noble cause
3. Claim to have the one and only solution to the threat
4. Vilify your opponents as being against the noble cause
5. Require a sacrifice from the people in freedom and/or wealth (usually both) to implement your solution
This method is clearly seen in the tactics of the WBGU, but look around. It is the M. O. of people openly seeking power and control over others around the world and at all levels of society. I guess blackmail would be a third way to seize power.
Blackmail and brute force are pretty much ‘in your face’ power grabs, but the 5 steps to tyranny involving noble cause corruption are usually unrecognized by the masses. The entire global warming culture is based on these steps, but it is also the driving force behind most successful politicians. Obama is a master at wielding these 5 steps. Bush used it too. The formula has been in play for thousands of years, yet most of us have never heard of it or recognize it when it is implemented.
So, say the ones who do the gene code data were fudging, fiddling and or messing with the data
sets on mankind’s genetic code to build better a man kind.
“The master-plan called for a so-called future council, made up of prophet-like wise men,”
Presumably as opposed to profit-liking wise men.
Back in 1973, during the Arab oil embargo, areas of the world that had not had open road speed limits suddenly got them based on a mistaken idea that it would help conserve fuel. The great states of Nevada and Montana which did not have absolute speed limits (although Montana had a nighttime 65 mph speed limit) were forced to adopt the national US 55mph limit. I believe Switzerland and Belgium did not have super highway speed limits; well they got a 100 kph limit. France and Italy certainly did not have limits on their autoroutes and autostrada. They got them too. Most importantly, however, Germany got a speed limit on its fabled autobahn. Following that, generally mythical, oil crisis of 1973 all the areas that got speed limits kept them in one form or another.
Except for Montana, which returned to ‘reasonable and prudent’ for a couple years from 1996 to 1998. And, most importantly, Germany. Following the crisis the German Ministry of Transport conducted a 3 year study concerning the safety aspects of a speed limit on the autobahn and concluded there was no benefit. And why should there be? Following an ice storm do revised speed limit signs suddenly spring up along the highway, or do motorists adjust their speed accordingly?
But I’m getting sidetracked. Anyway, despite the Ministry’s findings the unlimited speed aspect of the autobahn has remained controversial. And it should be no surprise that the Green Party in Germany hates it. The whole impetus behind the environmentalists has always been all about restricting every aspect of human behavior that they can, and private mobility is certainly not the least of it.
I don’t know the situation today but it is my understanding that just a few short years ago environmental legislation was introduced to initiate a speed limit on the autobahn and none other than Angela Merkel herself declined to sign it. I believe she stated that she did not wish to be personally responsible for such a change.
Speed limits have been a very big issue in Germany. One political party actually had as its slogan, ‘free driving for a free people.’
Germans have always been suckers for authority (my grandmother was from Berlin). But it’s been said that many Germans feel passionately about the unlimited speed autobahn since it’s one of the last vestiges of freedom for a micromanaged people.
I don’t know what the moral of the foregoing story is. But I suspect that Nature endowed us with at least some characteristics that do not work in unison. One of which is autonomy which is largely predicated by personal freedom. And another is the quest for power which oftentimes is the antithesis of that autonomy. However, without autonomy life simply cannot continue. (I’ve seen that up close and personal in nursing homes.) So, if all personal freedoms are ultimately relegated to the trash heap, and life is to continue, something will have to snap. Perhaps that motivated Angela Merkel’s decision. And maybe Rahmstorf et al need a lesson.
So when does any one start to understand what IS happening.
It would be scientific.
Tom J says:
December 1, 2013 at 9:59 am
“I don’t know the situation today but it is my understanding that just a few short years ago environmental legislation was introduced to initiate a speed limit on the autobahn and none other than Angela Merkel herself declined to sign it. I believe she stated that she did not wish to be personally responsible for such a change.
Speed limits have been a very big issue in Germany. One political party actually had as its slogan, ‘free driving for a free people.’”
There is no general speed limit even though 70% or so of Autobahn kilometers have speed limits due to traffic density or landscape issues. The harder left, from SPD and Greens leftwards, are still pressing for the general speed limit; I think they do it to lose elections, as it looks to me if they really wanted to accomplish it they would lie about it, get elected and then break their promises.
“We’re winning!
“Failed tricking their way past democracy””
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First of all: – “democracy”, where and what is that? – – – – And: secondly: Once we have won, what do we, I mean those among us who are classed as deniers and those who class themselves as sceptics (skeptics), do then? – As far as I’m concerned WUWT is both interesting and educational and I don’t want “Blogs” like this one to ‘vanish’
Can we perhaps begin a real discussion to find out – “once and for all”- whether IR emission (radiation) from the Earth’s Surface (IRES) possesses the energy (power) behind it to create molecular friction – it is always, IMHO, friction that creates heat within the “absorbing object” –
And: “Do GHGs perhaps just block the path of IR radiation – or do GHGs do what CAGW & AGW scientists “believe” they do? Whatever that may be.
DirkH
December 1, 2013 at 11:18 am
‘There is no general speed limit even though 70% or so of Autobahn kilometers have speed limits due to traffic density or landscape issues. The harder left, from SPD and Greens leftwards, are still pressing for the general speed limit; I think they do it to lose elections, as it looks to me if they really wanted to accomplish it they would lie about it, get elected and then break their promises.’
Years ago I had hoped to travel to Germany for a chance to drive on the autobahn. I doubt I can anymore but it’s still nice to hear that about 1/3rd of it is still speed limit free. Thank you very much for confirming that.
My understanding is that the 85th percentile speed on the autobahn is about 150 kph (90 mph) yet the fatality rate is virtually identical to the US Interstate highway system where 90 mph is a guaranteed very expensive ticket.
While I’ll never get to the autobahn I did get a chance to drive through Montana on the way from Chicago to Seattle in 1998. What I’m going to say reminds me of an old Bruce Springsteen song, ‘Glory Days’, where one of the lyrics was, ‘when I get old I hope I don’t sit around talking about it but I probably will.’ Through Montana in ’98 in an Alfa Romeo Milano I covered 782 miles (about 1,275 km) in 9 1/2 hours – with stops. So I guess I sort of got to the autobahn after all.
Happy upcoming holidays!
Uncle Gus said @ur momisugly November 30, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Here in Tasmania, the Greens lobbied for years for plantation forestry so the wilderness forests could be preserved. These days they lobby against plantation forests. Sadly though they are inconsistent. They have not reversed on logging the wilderness.
They have succeeded in destroying our forestry industry which means ever so many people are now unemployed. Our forested areas are extensive with a marked tendency to burn fiercely in summertime and are a great threat to lives and property. As I remarked to a greenie chortling over their success: “What are you going to do when the February Dragon arrives?” She said: “Call the fire brigade!” “Sorry about that,” I replied, “You just had them all put out of business and their equipment has been sold. You are even proud of having done it.”
I’d say that was “a threat to democracy, liberty and everything”.
The question is not why wouldn’t the news sources be interested in telling the truth, its why would they. Very few mega corps own Newspapers, mags, television. We have a monopoly going for any news or information and they ALL have a stake in the green energy scam. Its not hard to figure out why they are what they are when you follow the money back to the source. Until we can liberate our information sources from the agenda of their parent corporation we have little hope of getting anything but what agenda they choose to pursue. Start locally, hold their feet to the fire (that is an old saying and should not be taken literally), make them accountable and let them know we are sick of it.. when the people stop taking this crap silently, LOCALLY, then we have a lot better chance of stopping it nationally.
Tom J says:
December 1, 2013 at 12:18 pm
“Years ago I had hoped to travel to Germany for a chance to drive on the autobahn. I doubt I can anymore but it’s still nice to hear that about 1/3rd of it is still speed limit free. Thank you very much for confirming that.”
If you want to do it, use the new Autobahns in the former DDR; they’re flat and straight and 3 lanes and all.
Tom Hanks describes it well here.
“My understanding is that the 85th percentile speed on the autobahn is about 150 kph (90 mph) yet the fatality rate is virtually identical to the US Interstate highway system where 90 mph is a guaranteed very expensive ticket.”
Simple system; leftest lane is the fastest. Everyone has got to drive on the right except when overtaking. So you have speed-sorted traffic.
Let’s not get carried away too soon. The Green Master Plan may look a bit shaky, but its hopeful future demise will have more to do with politics and energy costs. The Aussie electorate has shown that green is no longer a vote winner, neither is fuel poverty and possible blackouts here in Europe.
ntesdorf says:
November 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm
“ However as Churchill said ‘It is perhaps the beginning of the End’”
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Sorry, but that is not what Churchill said. What he did say, after the British (with some Commonwealth and American help) defeated Rommel in Africa, was:
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
My feeling is that this quote more accurately describes the present situation with CAGW. It is not yet even the beginning of the end, but it is perhaps, the end of the Media’s one-sided coverage.
brent says (November 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm): “But Lovelock forgets that while there are many—half!—who are below average on the IQ scale…”
Minor nitpick: Half will be below the median score.