Pierre Gosselin writes:
Europe Climate Policy Blows Engine…”Giant Failure” … Scientists “Failed Tricking Their Way Past Democracy” …”Mood Of Resignation”
Good news!
This is about one of the most damning pieces on the European climate movement I’ve read all year. An atmosphere of resignation is truly sweeping through Germany’s climate movement. Flagship media are waking up.
We’re winning!
“Failed tricking their way past democracy”
Germany’s equivalent of the Washington Post, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) has written a blistering criticism of Hans Schellnhuber’s WBGU and activists’ efforts to impose a green authoritarian society on the rest of the world. They overshot and missed the curve. The FAZ introduction reads:
The rescue of the planet gets cancelled. The climate advisory council to the government played high stakes poker. And lost. They failed at tricking their way past democracy.”
In the eyes of one Germany’s leading flagship national dailies, the renowned Frankfurter Allgemenine Zeitung, the attempted green coup led by a small group of elite scientists and a mass of activists has come to grinding halt.
– See more at: http://notrickszone.com/2013/11/30/europe-climate-policy-blows-engine-huge-failure-scientists-failed-tricking-their-way-past-democracy-mood-of-resignation/#sthash.pULr2101.dpuf
Well at least some German MSM journalist has noticed the WBGU’s drivel (Achse Des Guten has noticed it before but they’re independent journos on a blog).
Of course this is not the end of German madnesses, but the beginning of the end of the climate madness in Germany.
For those who think that Germans are especially mad people; markstoval at 2:38 pm has got it right. Hitler was just a formidable scapegoat; Churchill wanted to destroy Germany anyway to remove competition and save the empire; in which he fortunately failed.
You will, BTW, have the pleasure of watching Germany perish in a number of self inflicted catastrophes against which the renewables capital misallocation pales in comparison; but given the allround collapse of Western civilisation, maybe we will even accomplish to fade slower than the competition (looking at you, UK, there, with your 500% indebtedness, public + private sector added together).
Nick Stokes says:
November 30, 2013 at 2:08 pm
You got it exactly right, and you mentioned the important part, “The FAZ has published”. Now, the FAZ is nominally conservative, which means social-democrat for you, and they have been as 100% alarmist warmist as it gets in the past. So, you have lost the RINO’s in Germany; i.e. Merkel.
You need a bigger scare.
Dark Green politics in Germany is losing another major battle. Earlier, the German government decided to phase out nuclear power in favor of ‘evil’, ‘CO2-belching’, ‘planet-wrecking’, coal-fired power plants.
The big news is that the German MSM is having a smell-the-coffee moment. And the editors at FAZ, at least, are PO’d. I hope that the captive media outlets in the USA have similar epiphanies.
For independent thinkers here’s the take-away: When the Authoritarian rhetoric gets really shrill, you can bet that the political rascals are lying through their teeth, and that their true agendas are not particularly noble. We saw it with the Big Lie about WMD in Iraq. And we’re seeing it again in the Global War on the Flying Carbon Monster (GWOFCM).
In contrast, real problems are usually downplayed. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along. Example from the late 1930s: Neville “Peace in Our Time” Chamberlain.
albertalad says:
November 30, 2013 at 2:11 pm
Where are the responsible journalists in North America?
I don’t know. If North American journalists originally thought they were going to lose their jobs if they wrote a proper expose of the green take over they may be having second thoughts about that now. A sea change is in the wind. I think they should be fired for not reporting on it in the first place and I have every intention of pressing the issue with editors whenever the opportunity arises. I think we will see some break ranks soon as the exposure of the lies becomes more main stream, and the real climate trend becomes patently obvious to the most casual observer. However, the pervasive “climate change” hand wave when reporting about practically everything from purple losestrife to malaria must be challenged from the peanut gallery at every opportunity. I personally have made a point to throw back everything via email to the local news paper every time something is published that repeats the climatism dogma. It doesn’t matter that what I have said is not published, they know that people are watching and know the truth is following them. WUWT is invaluable in this effort as there are so many well thought out and referenced articles, it makes this effort so much more powerful. Our journalists in North America have not served The People in the capacity that Freedom of the Press was intended to provide. While,to be fair, there have been some who tried to join the battle but they were pushed aside. I don’t know enough about Canada to make a remark but I do know there are some who regard the rough and tumble freedoms in the US with some degree of envy. The affairs of the US Republic may seem messy and head banging but I do believe that it is still capable of functioning even when some elements of our freedom guarantees have failed. The green take over will be stopped in time and as others have stated here, there will be something else to take its place. The eternal vigil must be kept. Vegetarianism is a wolf in sheep’s clothing in as much as it purports to be civil and compassionate but in fact is anti-human in that the intent is to deny humanity meat as a source of valuable nutrition. Climatism and vegetarinism are related: they are bats coming from the same belfry. That would be the “fix humanity guild” of which we have seen way to much.
Steve from Rockwood says:
November 30, 2013 at 3:31 pm
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Indeed, that is the wurst.
We’re winning!
Well, the facts and the truth is winning, and we support that.
Were they ever really such a threat to democracy, liberty and everything? Surely the point of this kind of pressure group is (a) to get noticed (b) to get taken seriously by the powers that be, and last but by no means least (c) to get public funding. Actually achieving your stated aims is secondary and sometimes not even desirable. It leaves you with nothing to do, as the cause gets taken over by real professional power maniacs.
It’s always puzzled me that often, the climate lobby acts as if it doesn’t understand this – they seem to think that they will actually be allowed to be in charge, just because they are such nice people and have everyone’s best interests at heart.
Gary says:
November 30, 2013 at 1:59 pm
Gary–Global Warming is ALL political.
100%!
There’s so little “science” in it, I don’t see why they even bother paying $Billions to destroy the credibility and reputations of all those sychophant “climate scientists”.
Loghin says:
“…we should stop using the term “scientist”… Scientist is just a “loaded word”… to convey authority to the persons cited.”
Absolutely. Scientists study the physical and natural world through observation and experimentation. They propose falsifiable hypotheses and test them using empirical data. Climate models aren’t data, and climate modelers are NOT scientists. Far too many frauds don the mantle of ‘scientist’ and masquerade as climatologists.
Schellnhuber.. The German Lovelock
James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change
One of the main obstructions to meaningful action is “modern democracy”, he added. “Even the best democracies agree that when a major war approaches, democracy must be put on hold for the time being. I have a feeling that climate change may be an issue as severe as a war. It may be necessary to put democracy on hold for a while
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/mar/29/james-lovelock-climate-change
James Lovelock knows of what he speaks: personal experience allows him to say that a lot of humans aren’t that bright.
But Lovelock forgets that while there are many—half!—who are below average on the IQ scale, it takes an academic to say something really stupid.
Take the Gaia hypothesis—now elevated to “theory”—Lovelock’s creation. Life forms a complex web of interactions, Lovelock says. Has anyone in all of history ever disagreed with that? It is trivially true, and noticing it is not the least worthy of praise. Yet several grant-awarding agencies still gave Lovelock a hearty pat on the back after he gave that banal observation a cute name
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=2156
Science Uber Alles ???
J Martin says:
November 30, 2013 at 2:49 pm
@ur momisugly Nick Stokes. The important thing is, it got published. Previously it would not have been published. Things are changing, one day even the BBC might change.
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One day, even Nick Stokes might change. 😉
I just ran the FAZ article through an automatic translator (because of Deutsch I know not meuch), and agree with others who see FAZ continuing to preach planetary salvation, objecting only to special messianic status for the WBGU. Natural-disaster voodoo has been with us since the beginning of history; as long as carbon hysteria serves the orthodox, it will continue.
R Taylor: “… and agree with others who see FAZ continuing to preach planetary salvation …”
Yeh, I’m holding my breath on it. I give even odds to this being a renaming of failed products, or of discarding failed messianic notions for a new set. I’m not even wagering on the idea that politicians found the science that the climate scientists can’t find.
I know that I am late in the game to this thread. The post shows, as we say here in Australia “the thin edge of the wedge”. The failure of Warsaw is also indicative of that. It was always about the money. Not the environment. Expect now for research funds from the US to show a strong natural variability component to Climate Change in future climate models or at least a slow retreat to “we are now, not really as sure as we were”. They will be off the hook.
Even for us here in Australia, the Carbon Tax was, in then Treasurer Wayne Swan’s word’s “Landmark economic policy”. Again, about the money. Not the environment. Once we get it past the now decimated Greens, the Carbon Tax will be a forgotten memory.
brent says:November 30, 2013 at 6:47 pm
James Lovelock: Humans are too stupid to prevent climate change
George Carlin: “Think about how stupid the average person is and then realize that half of them are even stupider than that.”
A German with a Master Plan for Europe. What can go wrong?
As we say in Sweden Reality exceeds poems…..
“The end of the beginning” ?
I dare say they do not want to run the risk of being seen as heretics …
Dodgy Geezer says:
November 30, 2013 at 10:40 am
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… or,”to shreds you say”
What are the alternatives?
What are the costs?
What facts do you base this on?
3 simple questions that Marxist ideas and policy don’t pass?
“I know that I am late in the game to this thread. The post shows, as we say here in Australia “the thin edge of the wedge”. The failure of Warsaw is also indicative of that. It was always about the money. Not the environment. Expect now for research funds from the US to show a strong natural variability component to Climate Change in future climate models or at least a slow retreat to “we are now, not really as sure as we were”. They will be off the hook.”
It’s about international Marxism through global governance climate treaty(UN) and radical change of western society. The Marxists can’t get to power nationally in free elections with some sort of mixed classic liberal and kapitalistic based democracies. So it’s all about instead getting global control trough global governance and getting rid of the classic liberal and kapitalistic democratic playground.
@ur momisugly Jon says:
November 30, 2013 at 11:00 pm
+10 Jon – right on target.
I have never been able to believe that the Germans believe that warmist shite. Surely, they are too smart? Wake up, Germany!
It’s about classic liberal fundamental freedom and choice for the individual and The Marked for capitalism. With UNFCCC, Kyoto, IPCC and Agenda 21 etc is all about taking away our classic liberal “rights”, democracy, and taking away the “Marked”.
That’s why they are calling for a radical change of the Western World and global governance. Historically Marxism have had enormous problem to work nationally and do not give the people living under it the same quality of life and long life’s as more classic liberal and kapitalistic driven democracies do.
I think the breakdown of USSR and Eastern Europe was due to the “Information Age” and people there increasingly realizing the difference between Marxism economic failure and the rest of Western World economic success. So the Marxist have leaned their lesson and understand that Marxism must be implemented globally at the same time. And at the same time removing classic liberal and kapitalistic politics and solutions globally and nationally.
They know that Marxism is not going to work, but thinks that if we all live in the same misery no one is going to notice it?