Dana Nuccitelli published an article today in The Guardian Does the global warming “pause” mean what you think it means?…a play off a line by Inigo Montoya from “The Princess Bride”. Dana has expressed his misunderstanding of one of the most commonly used metrics of global warming—the surface temperature record. And he continues to display his unwillingness to accept that the hypothesis of human-induced global warming is dead.
Nuccitelli presents Box 3.1 Figure 1 from Chapter 3 of the IPCC’s 5th Assessment Report (my Figure 1).
Figure 1
(See the approved Chapter 3 (Observations: Ocean) of the IPCC’s 5th Assessment Report.)
Nuccitelli writes:
The speed bump only applies to surface temperatures, which only represent about 2 percent of the overall warming of the global climate. Can you make out the tiny purple segment at the bottom of the above figure? That’s the only part of the climate for which the warming has ‘paused’.
Nuccitelli is correct that the halt in global warming applies to surface temperatures, but he’s incorrect that it applies only to it. The warming of the top 700 meters has also slowed to a crawl, and is nonexistent in the North Atlantic and North Pacific, but more on that later.
The global surface temperature record includes land surface air temperature (measured at 2 meters from the surface) and sea surface temperature measurements. And as a reference, the GISS, NCDC and UKMO global surface temperature products show little (GISS) to no (UKMO & NCDC) warming since January 2001, based on the linear trends. (See Figure 2, which is from the post here.)
Figure 2
Nuccitelli refers his readers to “tiny purple segment at the bottom of the above figure” (my Figure 1), which is identified by the IPCC as “Atmosphere” in the illustration—not the surface of the oceans.
In their discussion of “Atmosphere” for their Box 3.1, Figure 1, the IPCC explains that the atmospheric component is estimated from lower troposphere and lower stratosphere temperatures, based on satellite measurements. The lower troposphere temperature measurements are from the layer that is approximately 3000 meters above sea level.
The IPCC has NOT presented the heat content for the surface of the oceans in their Box 3.1, Figure 1. The ocean surface warming is included in top 700 meters of ocean warming—not in the atmosphere.
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Further to the IPCC’s Box 3.1, Figure 1, Dana Nuccitelli forgot to advise his readers that the data in the IPCC’s graph have been smoothed with a 5-year filter, and that the smoothing would hide the slowdown in warming of the oceans at depths of 0 to 700 meters and 700 to 2000 meters. And he has elected not to tell his readers that the quarterly NODC ocean heat content data for the North Atlantic during the ARGO era continues to show very little warming for depths of 0-2000 meters and cooling at depths of 0-700 meters. (See Figure 3.)
Figure 3
He’s overlooked the fact that the ocean heat content data for the North Pacific show cooling at both levels, with the 0-2000 meter data cooling at a lesser rate than the 0-700 meter data. (See Figure 4.)
Figure 4
(Figures 3 and 4 are from the post here. And the data are available here from the NODC website.)
CO2 is supposed to be a well-mixed greenhouse gas. Obviously, increased CO2 emissions in recent years have had no impact on the ocean heat in the Northern Hemisphere.
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Nuccitelli uses the tired and misleading “atomic bomb” metric:
As the IPCC figure indicates, over 90 percent of global warming goes into heating the oceans, and it continues at a rapid pace, equivalent to 4 Hiroshima atomic bomb detonations per second.
The IPCC doesn’t mention Hiroshima atomic bombs anywhere in their Chapter 3; the words “Hiroshima”, “atom”, and “bomb” do not appear in Chapter 3 of the IPCC’s AR5; so don’t think the IPCC is responsible for this nonsensical claim. One would have to assume Nuccitelli is referring to the 0.6 watts/meter^2 imbalance at the surface found in papers like Stephens et al (2013). See Figure 5.
Figure 5
As I wrote in Climate Models Fail:
The total of the downward shortwave (solar) radiation and longwave (infrared) radiation is about 534 watts/meter^2, so the estimated imbalance of 0.6 watts/meter^2 is only about 0.1% of the total downward radiation at the surface. Or, in other words, the total amount of downward radiation at the surface is about 890 times more than the difference. Also note the uncertainty in the imbalance. The estimated imbalance is 0.6 +/- 17 watts/meter^2. That is, the uncertainties are 28 times greater than the estimated value. Bottom line: the surface imbalance may exist or it may not.
Note: Radiative imbalance is the metric that alarmists like to portray in terms of atomic bombs. What the alarmists fail to tell their readers is that sunlight and natural levels of infrared radiation at the surface are almost 890 times the number of atomic bombs they’re claiming, and that the uncertainties in radiative imbalance are 28 times the radiative imbalance.
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Nuccitelli continues to mislead his readers in that article:
Over longer time frames, for example from 1990 to 2012, average global surface temperatures have warmed as fast as climate scientists and their models expected.
As I noted in the post Open Letter to the Honorable John Kerry U.S. Secretary of State, the modelers had to double the rate of the warming of global sea surface temperatures over the past 31+ years in order to get the modeled land surface air temperatures even close to the observed warming. (See Figure 6.)
Figure 6
So let’s look at the difference between modeled and observed global sea surface temperatures since 1990 to put it into the time period Dana Nuccitelli prefers, Figure 7. “Climate scientists and their models expected” the surface of the global oceans to have warmed at a rate that was almost 3 times faster than observed since 1990.
Figure 7
Three times as fast must mean “as fast as climate scientists and their models expected” in the new climate change doubletalk of global warming enthusiasts.
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Nuccitelli and the global warming enthusiasts from the IPCC like to present global warming in terms that are meaningless to most people, in Joules with lots of zeroes after it. The units in the IPCC’s Box 3.1, Figure 1 (my Figure 1) are in Zettajoules or Joules*10^21. But as we’ve illustrated and discussed recently, the warming of the oceans takes on a whole new perspective when we present it in terms familiar to people: deg C. (See Figure 8, which is from the blog post here.) Surface temperatures stopped warming, the warming of the top 700 meters of the oceans has slowed to a crawl, so if there is continued warming at depths of 700 to 2000 meters, it is so miniscule that it’s not coming back to haunt anyone at any time in the future.
Figure 8
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After a long discussion of multidecadal variations in surface temperatures, Nuccitelli’s final paragraph begins:
In terms of the threat from long-term global warming and climate change, it really doesn’t mean anything. It just means that at the moment, more global warming is being absorbed by the oceans, but the next time ocean cycles shift, we’ll experience accelerated surface warming just like we did in the 1990s.
But Nuccitelli misses the obvious. We discussed this in the post Will their Failure to Properly Simulate Multidecadal Variations In Surface Temperatures Be the Downfall of the IPCC?:
Most people will also envision the multidecadal variations extending further into the future. That is, they will imagine a projection of future Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures repeating the slight cooling from 1945 to the mid-1970s along with the later warming, followed by yet another slight cooling of Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures, in a repeat of the past “cycle”. That is, they will envision the surface temperature record repeating itself. And in their minds’ eyes, they see an ever growing divergence between the models and their projections, like the one shown in Figure [9].
Figure 9
FURTHER READING
In my book Climate Models Fail, I have collected my past findings about climate model failings, and illustrated others, and I’ve presented highlights from the research papers critical of climate models—and I “translated” those research findings for persons without scientific or technical backgrounds. And as noted earlier, there is also a discussion of the natural warming of the global oceans. The free preview of Climate Models Fail is available here. It includes the Introduction, Table of Contents and the Closing. Climate Models Fail is available in pdf and Kindle formats. Refer to my blog post New Book: “Climate Models Fail” for further information, the synopsis from the Kindle webpage and purchase/download links.
Ocean heat content data and satellite-era sea surface temperature data indicate the oceans warmed via natural ocean processes, not from manmade greenhouse gases. This has been addressed in dozens of blog posts here and with cross posts at WattsUpWithThat for almost 5 years. I further discussed this in minute detail in my book Who Turned on the Heat? It is only available in .pdf form. A preview is here. Who Turned on the Heat? is described further in, and is available for sale through, my blog post “Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About El Niño and La Niña”.
CLOSING
The hypothesis of human-induced global warming is dead. Global warming enthusiasts like Dana Nuccitelli and the IPCC just haven’t come to terms with their losses. They should be burying it with dignity, and moving on to greener pastures, but they’re not. They’ve chosen to parade around a failure of science like a pull toy.
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Just getting curious about the kiloton analogy, I fired up Excel and looked for a handy reference for the total solar irradiance, which I found at
http://lasp.colorado.edu/lisird/sorce/sorce_tsi/
It looks like the TSI varies a bit over long and short times, around 1361 W/m2 with short term (few days or weeks or so) variations from 0.5 to 1 W/m2. Well, if the earth radius is taken to be about 6371 km, then just doing pi r2 gets (for the 1 W/m2 number) about 1.3e14 W/m2, which is about 1.3e14 J/s. Now a Joule is about 2.4e-13 KT so our 1 J/s over the earth is about 30 KT or about 2 Hiroshima yields per second. Per day that works out to about 2.36e6 KT per day or 175,000 Hiroshima yields per day. And that is just the variation amplitude. The total TSI is 1361 times that, or about 239e6 Hiroshima yields. Maybe a more meaningful idea of the daily dose (from 1361 W/m2) is in terms of total nuclear weapon yield. The global stockpile is kind of a guarded number but arms control guys guess about 17,325 in 2012. (See e.g. http://armscontrolcenter.org/issues/nuclearweapons/articles/fact_sheet_global_nuclear_weapons_inventories_in_2012/) The yields vary but guessing about 100KT per warhead, gives a total world nuclear stockpile yield around 1.73e6 KT. So every day the mean old sun hits us with about 2.36/1.73 or about 1.5 times the sockeroo as if the whole world fought global thermonuclear war against each other. There is always a chance I made a math error, but I think its about right.
Sometimes people forget how big the world and the sun and the universe actually are.
Interesting stuff, FAH. Always nice to put things in perspective. Thanks for sharing.
“Dana Nuccitelli Can’t Come to Terms with the Death of the AGW Hypothesis……”
And neither can the L.A. Times….
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/10/18/la-times-bans-letters-from-climate-skeptics/?intcmp=latestnews
It’s apparent to me that the concept in psychology known as cognitive dissonance is beginning to kick in here. The CAGW belief is being increasingly questioned with scientific evidence that cannot be easily explained away. The believers however are so emotionally attached to the CAGW belief system and so heavily vested in it that they cannot easily give up on it or let go of it. Thus, they have no choice but to simply block out or censor all the contrary evidence. Either that or increasingly use lies and other forms of deceit in a vain attempt to discredit the contrary evidence.
When elements of the mainstream media start resorting to the kind of behavior that the L.A. Times and The Guardian have chosen to practice, they begin abandoning not just the standards and ethics of journalism that they should be upholding but also the free exchange of ideas that underpins the very concept of free speech itself. Thus, they detach themselves not just from reality, but also from the principles that democracies are supposed to have been founded on and still stand for today.
The Guardian, Dana Nuccitelli, the L.A. Times, and all the others all increasingly having the same problem that involves the growing divide between their AGW religion and reality. As time goes by, Mother Nature will quite possibly make things even worse for them all. Watching them struggle with this will become increasingly interesting to watch.
Bob I’m banned from skeptical science so can’t argue the point with them. I wonder if you would address a few. Much is made of the fact that you make no mention of the Indian Ocean. Why was that? It is also said that you concentrate on intervals of time, 2005 -013 for ocean temperatures and 2000-2013 for air temperatures, that are too short to be statistically viable. That you look at small regions of the oceans rather than the globe as a whole and dismiss the satellite observations of temperature. I hope you are able to find time to respond
JohnWho says:
October 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm
I would say anyone using SkS As a source needs to find a better source, unless they are using it as a source of “ShonKy Science”.
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Ummm, would you believe North Carolina State University uses SkA as a serious Climate Education resource,..the clones wars are coming when they all graduate..
http://www.nc-climate.ncsu.edu/edu/k12/node/1430
Brian, without any sense of reality, you wrote, “Your response to Joe does more to address Nuccitelli than your entire blog post, since it directly deals with heat content of the deep global oceans. The fact remains that you do not discuss that topic in your post.”
Brian, what part of the data for the depths of 700 to 2000 meters didn’t you understand? Look again at the discussions of Figure 3, 4 and 8, and in the linked posts where they originated.
Once again you’ve been caught in a blatant fabrication.
Each time you commented on this thread you’ve misrepresented what was presented in my post. You have no credibility here, Brian. You’ve thrown it away. No one here helped you destroy your credibility. You did it all on your own.
Brian says: “Do you think anyone who raises complaints is a troll?”
With bloggers like you, Brian, I don’t have to think too hard about that subject. Someone like you, Brian, who repeatedly fabricates, misdirects, misleads, and misinforms presents themselves as a troll. I’m not sure why you have so much difficulty understanding that.
Your debate tactics are laughable.
Good-bye, Brian. I’m tired of playing whatever game you’re trying to play.
It’s easy, Bob. You have no figure that deals with heat content of the global oceans. Figures 3 and 4 are not global. Figure 8 is not heat content. I am being as direct as possible. Until you address this point, you are the one playing games.
the only issue i have here is in one of your replies you state complete coverage for argo bouys for the global oceans.argo bouys hgave no where near complete coverage of any ocean,never mind global oceans,and the entire data set for ocean temperatures is so sparse as to be virtually meaningless,so clowns like trenberth and offhisnuticelli do not have a leg to stand on in terms of claiming the heat has entered the deep oceans.
as to whether nucitelli is ignorant or disingenous,i personally think he is an arrogant,ignorant arsehole,along with the rest of the crowd on sks. i would pay good money for 5 mins alone in a room with him.
“””””……As the IPCC figure indicates, over 90 percent of global warming goes into heating the oceans, and it continues at a rapid pace, equivalent to 4 Hiroshima atomic bomb detonations per second……””””””
So please set us straight on this new SI unit of “heating” (AKA solar radiant energy wastage).
The total global TSI IS 1362 w/m^2 x [(360 x 60 x 1852 / pi)^2 x pi/4 ] m^2=173,443 TeraWatts , so how many Hiroshimas per nanosecond izzat ??
“””””……HenryP says:
October 18, 2013 at 10:24 am
Might I add to my previous comment that there is ample evidence in Revelations that the next anti-christ will in fact be a woman and not a man.
Everyone will also be linked with a device (Rev. 13:15)……”””””
Nancy Pelosi, or Hillary(named before Sir Edmund) Clinton. ??
Ben D says:
October 18, 2013 at 4:51 pm
JohnWho says:
October 18, 2013 at 2:23 pm
I would say anyone using SkS As a source needs to find a better source, unless they are using it as a source of “ShonKy Science”.
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Ummm, would you believe North Carolina State University uses SkA as a serious Climate Education resource,..the clones wars are coming when they all graduate..
http://www.nc-climate.ncsu.edu/edu/k12/node/1430
I used to live in NC, Ben. Folks there weren’t that, uh, lacking in IQ then. Maybe when I left the collective IQ dropped?
Dunno.
Brian says:
October 18, 2013 at 5:19 pm
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Here’s a chart you can think about for awhile. (I have this in about 10 different depictions if you want).
http://s17.postimg.org/4ts1blb4v/2013_Missing_Energy.png
Brian says: “It’s easy, Bob. You have no figure that deals with heat content of the global oceans.”
Your complaints have now reached comedic levels, Brian.
Obviously, you’ve overlooked something once again. Scroll back up to the top of the post. Do you see Figure 1? What do the two blue curves present, Brian?
I then subdivided the data for Figures 3 and 4 into the North Atlantic and North Pacific and presented it for the period when annual data are available at both depth ranges. Then, in Figure 8, I presented the data for the global oceans in terms that people are familiar with, deg C. It’s really pretty easy to understand what I’ve done.
I’m beginning to believe that you, Brian, have no grasp of the subject matter. In fact, reading through your comments again, it’s pretty obvious you have a very limited understanding of what was discussed in this post. And to cover for your lack of understanding, you fabricate, misdirect, mislead, and misinform.
Most visitors who are new to the subjects being discussed here ask questions and try to learn the subject matter before they even consider arguing. You’re an exception. And as that exception, you’re being rude…and, to tell you the truth, very boring. Basically, Brian, all of your comments on this thread have been a complete waste of time for me, because I chose to respond to you instead of ignoring you, and a waste of time for all those who read them.
Good-bye, once again, Brian. Next time, try a new tack. Ask questions instead of arguing.
Would the Guardian newspaper be aware that one of its columnists is not revealing correspondence from the public?
A reputable paper like the Guardian would have data storage, retrieval and monitoring systems on all correspondence for legal reasons. It would also have a small team appraised to review the correspondence it receives and publishes or hides. This data would be collated and presented to the people who employ Dana so someone more senior above him would be aware that he is deliberately not publishing or acknowledging the correspondence coming in. The Guardian has a proud tradition of unbiased reporting and reporting all viewpoints. They support and respond to the Press Code within the rules.
Perhaps if some of our British colleagues inquired of the right people at the newspaper, or the Press Council or the Times a more non partisan presentation could appear.
This ought to tweak Nuccitelli a little bit more. This post at WUWT is in the top ten most-viewed WordPress blog posts today.
http://bobtisdale.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/wordpress-top-ten.png
Bob, I’m not misinforming anyone. Figure 1 is not your figure, Bob, and you don’t say anything about the deep ocean when discussing it. Your heat content charts (3&4) do not encompass the global oceans, Bob. Degrees C is not the same as heat content. These are facts, Bob.
Constant flux: what matters is the direction of heat flow between the layers. The heat content of a layer could remain exactly the same, and if the direction the heat flows changes then the layer above or below gets warmer/cooler.
When you put a blanket over yourself in a sealed room, the blanket heats up quickly, and remains at pretty much the same temperature while the rest of the room heats up more slowly. The rest of the room is the deeper oceans, the blanket is the surface layer, and your body is the heat source. After the blanket has warmed to equilibrium with your body, you can measure the temperature of the room getting warmer, but the blanket remains pretty much the same temperature.
Not an exact analogy, but should be an intuitive way to understand the physics.
Or, imagine a tennis canon with two nozzles. Ten balls are dropped into the hopper (which holds a hundred) every ten seconds. Both nozzles shoot ten 5 balls every 10 seconds. The number of the balls in the hopper remains the same. The system is in equilibrium. Program the machine to shoot 8 balls/10 seconds from one nozzle, and 2 balls/10 seconds out the other. The number of balls remains the same, even though one side of the court is ‘taking the heat’ more than the other. We see no change in the number of balls going every ten seconds, just the direction in which they are flying.
The deep oceans were getting 5 balls/10 seconds, now they’re getting 8. It’s physically possible for this to happen regardless how fast the hopper (0 – 700 meters) is replenished.
You can also see how the 0 – 700 meter layer could get colder while the deeper oceans heat up. The deeper oceans could draw heat from the upper layer faster than they warm. I imagine that if the system was not warming overall, that this is likely what we’d see if there are multi-decadal patterns that function like ENSO. Over the long-term, these would cancel out. Ocean processes can’t add or subtract energy from the whole system, just shift it around.
Think of flow, not discrete packages of heat, then you’ll get it.
I suggest Dana nooky baby check out the Kubler Ross model for the five stages of grief.
The oceans have a much higher heat capacity than the atmosphere. If Bob is implying it takes the same amount of heat to warm a swimming pool by 1C as it does to raise the temperature of a glass of water by 1C, then this is obviously wrong.
Brian… http://s17.postimg.org/4ts1blb4v/2013_Missing_Energy.png
Se the left hand graph. It shows atmosphere and ocean warming. (Note, the ocean warming is highly speculative and well within any error bars.) This means statistically meaningless, there is no missing heat from a scientific standpoint, it is simply a hypothesis without evidence.
Now see the right hand graph. This is the projected warming by the IPCC. Bob’s post also explained this, but you missed it. See Brian, CAGW, and AGW are DOA. Neither hurricanes, tornados, SL, polar ice, or extreme storms are on the increase. This is what the science says.
Anthony fell for the old bait and switch. Global warming is and always has been about temperature. Nutticelli fails basic physics. Temperature is NOT equal to heat. There is NOT even a linear correlation. You allow him to use a graph of heat to talk about the pause in temperature. Produce a graph of temperature change instead of heat since he clearly states it is about pause in temperature!
Sorry bob not Anthony.
“a play off a line by Inigo Montoya from”
Since we speak of ” a play on words”, should that not be “a play on a line”?
http://www.skepticalscience.com/does-global-warming-pause-mean-what-you-think.html#99013
dana1981 at 00:27 AM on 19 October, 2013
As usual Tisdsale is still focusing on surface temperatures and ignoring ocean temperatures. He does have a valid point that 0-700m ocean warming has slowed a bit, but only because 700-2000m ocean warming has accelerated. He’s guilty of the same type of cherry picking I discussed above, just regarding surface ocean temps in addition to surface air temps.
Dana Nuccitelli says you IGNORED ocean temperatures, but then agrees with your point about ocean warming and then that you cherry picked surface ocean temps. You obviously didn’t ignore them. How can anybody take him seriously with such doubletalk.
I suspect that Bob and Dana are saying the same thing really. The oceans are just an oscillating damping mechanism for temperature. Dana, being the anthropowarmist he is thinks the heat will just jump out of the oceans and burn us all one day. Bob sees that the natural ebb and flow of heat in the oceans is just that, natural and obviously beneficial to the stability of global climate.
It doesn’t matter what Dana tries to scare us all with the actualite´ as we experience and measure it is not scary at all.
Thanks Bob.