While Dr. Michael Mann tries to paint being funded by the Koch Corporation as being equivalent to pure evil in his attempts to smear people like myself…
…it is enlightening to learn that his current employer, Penn State, gets funds from Koch, and so does where Dr. Mann did his thesis from, the University of Virginia. Those darn facts, they are stubborn things. See the list that follows.
Meanwhile…climate activist Brad Johnson who runs the overzealous “Forecast the Facts” hit squad is also trying to get Koch out of the PBS board and funding. Apparently Koch funds that WGBH “Nova” program, well known for being anti-science /sarc
We’re turning up the heat on Boston’s PBS affiliate to kick climate denier David Koch off the board.
I wonder if they got a license from PBS to use “Big Bird”?
Given the depth that Koch is invested in American education via the list that follows, it makes his quest seem even more irrational. The obvious next step is to have Dr. Mann and Mr. Johnson try to divest Penn State from Koch. I’m sure this will go over well.
Thanks to commenter “climatebeagle” for providing a link to this list which I’ve reproduced below.
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Colleges and Universities with Programs Supported by the Charles Koch Foundation
September 2013
Albany State University
Alma College
American University
Andrew College
Arizona State University
Assumption College
Augustana College
Azusa Pacific University
Ball State University
Barry College
Barton College
Baylor University
Beloit College
Benedictine College*
Berry College
Bethel College – Indiana Biola University
Birmingham-Southern College
Boise State University
Bridgewater State University
Brigham Young University
Brooklyn Law School
Brown University Buena Vista University
California State University – East Bay
California State University – Fresno
California State University – Northridge
California State University – San Bernardino
Campbell University
Carthage College
Catholic University of America
Cedarville University
Central Connecticut State University
Chapman University
Charleston Southern University
Chestnut Hill College
Christopher Newport University
City University of New York – Brooklyn College
Claremont McKenna College
Clemson University
Coastal Carolina University
Colgate University
College of Charleston
College of Coastal Georgia
College of New Jersey
College of the Holy Cross
College of William and Mary
Cornell College
Dartmouth College
Delta State University
Duke University
Duquesne University
Eastern University
Fayetteville State University
Florida A&M University
Florida Atlantic University
Florida Gulf Coast University
Florida State University
Friends University*
Geneva College
George Fox University
George Mason University
George Washington University
Georgetown University
Georgia State University
Grossmont College
Grove City College
Hamilton College
Hampden-Sydney College
Hanover College
Harvard University
Hawaii Pacific University
High Point University
Hillsdale College
Hope College Houghton College
Houston Baptist University
Illinois State University
Indiana University
Indiana University – Bloomington
Indiana University – Purdue University – Indianapolis
Iowa State University
Jacksonville State University
James Madison University
John Brown University
John Jay College of Criminal
Justice Johns Hopkins University
Johnson and Wales University – Charlotte Kansas State University*
Kennesaw State
University Kenyon College
King’s College – London La Sierra University
Lake Forest College
Lakeland College Lee University
Lindenwood University
Linfield College Lipscomb University
Long Island University
Loyola University – New Orleans
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
McGill University
McKendree University
Menlo College
Mercer University
Metropolitan State
University of Denver
Michigan State University
Middle Tennessee State University
Milligan College
Millikin University
Millsaps College
Mississippi State University
Montana State University – Bozeman
Morehead State University
Mount Holyoke College
Mount St. Mary’s University
Murray State University
National University
New York University
Newman University*
North Carolina State University
North Dakota State University
North Park University
Northern Illinois University
Northwest Nazarene University
Northwest University
Northwestern Oklahoma State University
Northwestern University
Northwood University – Florida
Northwood University – Michigan
Northwood University – Texas
Nova Southeastern University
Ohio State University
Ohio University
Ohio University – Zanesville
Oklahoma State University
Patrick Henry College
Pennsylvania State University
Pennsylvania State University – Erie
Pepperdine University
Presbyterian College
Providence College
Radford University
Ramapo College Regent University
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Roanoke College
Robert Morris University
Rockford College
Rogers State University
Rollins College
Rutgers University
Rutgers University – Newark
Saginaw Valley State University
Saint Francis University
Salisbury University
Samford University
San Diego State University
San Jose State University
Sarah Lawrence College
Seton Hall University
Skidmore College
Southern Illinois University – Carbondale
Southern Illinois University – Edwardsville
Southern Methodist University
Southern Utah University
Spelman College
St. Ambrose University
St. Bonaventure University
St. Cloud State University
St. Edwards University
St. John Fisher College
St. John’s University
St. Lawrence University
St. Mary’s College of Maryland
St. Vincent College
State University of New York – Plattsburgh
Stephen F. Austin State University
Stonehill College
Suffolk University Syracuse University
Texas A&M University
Texas State University – San Marcos
Texas Tech University
The Citadel
Transylvania University
Trinity College
Trinity University
Troy University
University of Akron
University of Alabama
University of Alaska – Fairbanks
University of Arizona
University of Arkansas – Little Rock
University of California – Los Angeles
University of California – Riverside
University of Central Arkansas
University of Central Florida
University of Colorado – Boulder
University of Colorado – Colorado Springs
University of Dallas
University of Dayton
University of Delaware
University of Florida
University of Georgia
University of Hawaii – Hilo
University of Houston
University of Kansas*
University of Kentucky
University of Louisville
University of Maine – Machias
University of Maine – Orono
University of Maryland – Baltimore
County University of Maryland – College Park
University of Memphis
University of Michigan
University of Mississippi
University of Missouri – Columbia
University of Nebraska – Omaha
University of Nevada – Las Vegas
University of Nevada – Reno
University of New Orleans
University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill
University of North Carolina – Greensboro
University of North Carolina – Pembroke
University of Notre Dame
University of Oklahoma
University of Pennsylvania
University of Richmond
University of Rochester
University of San Diego
University of San Francisco
University of South Alabama
University of Tennessee – Knoxville
University of Texas – Arlington
University of Texas – San Antonio University of Tulsa
University of Virginia
University of Virginia’s College at Wise
University of Washington
University of Washington – Bothell
University of West Florida
University of Wisconsin – La Crosse
University of Wisconsin – Madison Ursinus College
Utah State University
Villanova University
Virginia Military Institute
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
Wake Forest University
Washington and Lee University Washington College
Washington University – St. Louis
Webber International University
Wellesley College Wesleyan College
West Liberty State College
West Texas A&M University
West Virginia University
Western Carolina University
Western Kentucky University
Western Michigan University
Wheaton College
Wheeling Jesuit University
Wichita State University*
Winston-Salem State University
Wofford College
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Source: http://www.kochfamilyfoundations.org/pdfs/CKFUniversityPrograms.pdf
Again for the record, I have never received a dime from Koch, never met them, never got a letter or email from them, and I doubt if they even know who I am. But, as I look at this list, maybe I should start asking? I’d be in good company.
Maybe the next time some wackadoodle activist cites #Kochmachine, you should simply ask them where they went to school or are at school.
Chances are, that school will be on this list, just like Mike Mann’s universities. Oh, the pain!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwwcCpa2Ag
It appears the Kochtapus has long and numerous tentacles.
Sorry, I just couldn’t stop 😉
http://youtu.be/MfukvixjzYU
Big Bird???? Today is a special day for climate Grouches in the AGW boat. I commented this at Climate Etc.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/sesame-street-magazine-declares-oct-15-national-grouch-day-article-1.1486562
Anthony, you do good work!
Anthony writes, “Again for the record, I have never received a dime from Koch, never met them, never got a letter or email from them, and I doubt if they even know who I am. But, as I look at this list, maybe I should start asking?”
The Koch’s have been told so many times (incorrectly) that they fund skeptical bloggers they probably believe they do. I think I’ll set up a special sticky post at my blog just for Koch donations.
Interesting that University of Texas, Austin, is not on the Koch-funded list above. (my undergraduate alma mater). However, it is a bastion of AGW. It is also heavily funded by Big Oil. And, it is very slightly funded by me. (emphasis on “very”).
The U of Texas system receives substantial funds from oil that is produced in fields located in West Texas. The oil fields have helped fund the University for at least the past 50 years.
Dang! My school is on the list. Is no one safe? I’m with you in Koch brother solidarity, Mikey.
Hahahahahaha and ha!
I’m outraged that U of OR (alma mater of my brothers) & Oregon State (pf my parents) haven’t yet gotten on the Koch gravy train! Why should my taxes keep funding these CACA hotbeds when Big Oil can ease the burden?
Mikey should tell Penn State that they must give back every dime they ever took from the Koch Foundation or he will resign forthwith. That is the only honorable thing to do in his position.
If Mann did not exist, we should have invented him!
Did “Forecast The Facts” pay PBS royalties to use Big Bird’s image? Inquiring minds wish to know. Lord knows if somebody on the science side used it to debunk AGW, these guys could be heard howling in the moon.
Is Michael Mann really the best front man the Koch Brothers can buy?
Absolutely not, but (unlike Anthony) it seems he’s on the payroll anyway.
Sweet!
A month or so ago, during a particularly unsettled time, I completely lost my cool with an old acquaintance and told them – twice in succession – to do something that’s physically impossible to do; as Clint Eastwood explained to an empty chair last year at the Republican National Convention.
To be honest, I wasn’t entirely happy with myself that I had let my anger get the best of me to where I blasted out that confrontational, raging swear. I genuinely felt bad about having barked those two words out – and twice. So I sought the counsel of an older, more world traveled, and very much wiser, individual who I had known for a long time. After hearing my story this learned gentleman quickly counseled:
“They had it coming.”
I don’t know why, but the above story and response really seems to apply to Michael Mann.
Those inconvenient real facts. They are just too available to us non-scientist types and to those scientists who want science to go back to working at learning all truths, not just the convenient ones.
If Michael Mann did not exist, no one could have invented him….. he’s just too pathetic and ridiculous.
“Penn State, also gets funds from Koch”
That could be construed as an admission that you do receive money from him.
REPLY: I was referring to the context of the list but I see your point, I’ll make a change to the wording. Note what I say at the end of the list, which is the truth. – Anthony
Anthony: Earlier I wrote: I think I’ll set up a special sticky post at my blog just for Koch donations.
Done.
I’ll let you know how it works out.
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2013/10/15/open-letter-to-the-koch-brothers/
@Bob Tisdale.
You are a glutton for punishment. Well done. – Anthony
This is scandalous. Working at Mann’s Penn State salary comes out of funds contaminated by Koch Foundation money. Either the guy is a Koch puppet serving their covert agenda and his slurs against Anthony Watts are for camouflage purposes, or else he’s deeply ashamed of where his funding comes from and is hitting out at Anthony in an act of classic Freudian psychological projection.
Koch brothers, et al, could spend their entire fortunes on pure propaganda and the amount wouldn’t be a drop in the bucket compared to what world governments have been spending on climate propaganda.
Mike Smith: “Is Michael Mann really the best front man the Koch Brothers can buy?”
I’ll just quote the guy that posted for me.
Uh, what would one who suckles off the Koch teats be called?
Just wondering’.
You couldn’t make Michael Mann up.
I see New Mexico State University nor University of New Mexico didn’t get on the Koch gravy train, either. Too bad. Lots of sun… great for solar panels and spaceports!
In light of the above facts, Michael Mann’s twit is a genuine embarrassment for the directors of his universities. They should sack him …
so Koch is a right wing philanthropist. I wouldn’t imagine for one moment that he or his organisation funded any of Michael Mann’s research. I would have thought this is more about political idealism than anything else.
Georgia State, Spelman, Kennesaw State, Berry, Andrew, Mercer, University of Georgia – lots of Georgia colleges and universities are on the list, but my alma mater, and Judith Curry’s place of employment – Georgia Tech – is not on the list. Maybe Judy needs to post her request for funding as well.. Makes me wonder who at Ga Tech made the Koch brothers mad.
Wow, I have degrees from both the University of Delaware and the University of Rochester. Out of three degrees total (also Ga. Tech) I have 2/3’s “Koch” influence. So I’m confused, am I 2/3’s a skeptic or 2/3’s a denier, or 2/3’s a believer ???. Anyway, I have never gotten my check(s), and I would not recognize the Koch Brothers unless I ran them over by accident and checked their drivers license to help fill out the police report.
Cheers, Kevin.
Again, nobody answers the question,
Whats so bad about takng money from a Koch (or a Gore) to do a thing you intended to do from the start.
AFAIK Neither Koch (nor Gore) is a murderer.
KevinM: “Whats so bad about takng money from a Koch (or a Gore) to do a thing you intended to do from the start.”
The appearance of impropriety. Textbook example: The EPA is justly infamous for throwing empirical research in the round file if it failed to reach the conclusion they paid for.
In an ideal world, the research is well argued, logical, doesn’t introduce superfluities or dialogues to moral touchstones and desired policy goals. And most of all, is possible to replicate. After that, no one should care until it has been replicated ridiculously and survived. But if we wait that long, Siberia will burst into flames and melt Greenland.
It is always humorous to see cagw alarmists like Mann writhe in their hypocrisy…
Keep Tweeting for “the Cause”(tm) Mike…[heh!]
Good move, Bob.
Love them facts, always popping up when least expected….
I hope the Koch children are of a similar mind with their fathers. I’d sure hate to see Michael Mann take a liking to the new KochMachine when it eventually replaces the classic KochMachine.
That is an hilarious fact! Talk about funny.
UC Santa Barbara (BA, 1967); UC Santa Barbara, PhD (1970); MBA USC 1975. Not surprised to see USC absent from the list, but definitely surprised that super left-radical UCSB also isn’t there.
Anthony, did you tweet His Ugliness to inform him that he, and not you, is living on the Big Oil nickel?
No University of Illinois appearances….not surprising, considering how anti-business the faculty are. I see that the ultra-liberal University of Wisconsin system snagged some Koch-coin!
Really, this type of information is useless. The big petrochem companies often sponsor research at schools with good chem-eng programs like Penn State, Univ of Mich, UI Urbana etc. I have yet to see ANY school turn down funding because of moral or ethical problems, although disinvestment is something they do (famously for apartheid South Africa).
Hey Charles, throw some of that Koch coin my way!
The Bear has a theory about why Michael Mann makes so many stupid mistakes: he’s as dumb as a brick.
FWIW, I complained to Penn State about Professor Mann’s Tweeting …. here’s their response:
“Michael Mann’s work in the lab has little to do with his right as a citizen to express his opinion under the First Amendment. His expressions on Twitter are his own and while you may disagree with them, they are protected speech (unless the courts deem otherwise).
The topic of climate change is and has been one of great dissension and discussion. Dr. Mann himself has been the subject of many scathing attacks. We do not comment directly on the content of these attacks, except to say that we support his work as a researcher.
His Constitutionally protected comments on Twitter are his own — much like the comments you are able to send in this email.”
Also, FWIW, if I were to tweet such stuff on topics for which I am employed, I would be strongly disciplined or fired. Guess I should get a gig at Penn State!
Mann reminds me of a second-rate gossipy drunk who sits in a club expounding loudly on his latest conspiracy theory…resting on laurels he may never have had….or in his present state, clinging, muttering, to a beat-up hockey stick.
Glad to be of assistance. 🙂
I am getting fed up of incorrect statements by AGWers (links to severe weather etc.), I think such statements need to be called out, maybe some grassroots/crowdsourced effort is needed. I’m trying to chase one down by Prof. Slingo, and Dr Mann’s claims today seemed interesting as well.
Dr. Mann would be wise to do more research before making such claims, the articles he linked to today when attacking Anthony did not seem to back up his tweets at all.
Observer, interesting, that’s not what’s Penn State’s policies say, specifically AD47 and HR64.
He has responsibilities as a Penn State professor even when speaking for himself.
Observer, forgot to add the link to my earlier comment.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/14/the-other-divergence-problem-climate-communications/#comment-1448735
The Koch Brothers should be made aware of this. A list that long is going to contain warmist universities. Maybe even all on the list are warmist (I’m beginning to doubt that there is such a thing as a university which hasn’t been infiltrated to push the warmist meme).
Well, if those warmist universities don’t want anything to do with the Koch Brothers, maybe they should withdraw their financial support and find something more useful to do with it. I would imagine that genuine science, research and other efforts to wind back alarmist hysteria could use a helping hand.
The Koch Brothers should be told that their current generosity is being thrown in their faces, their name is being constantly abused, and their donations thoroughly squandered. They should pull the plug.
Hmmm, interesting, I had noticed some time ago that North Carolina State University listed above, used John Cook’s Skeptical Science blog as an educational resource for students, the mind boggles at what they are turning out there,..the clones wars are coming…
http://www.nc-climate.ncsu.edu/edu/k12/node/1430
I like how these people hide behind Sesame Street.
Republicans should take the CPB funding away from the lying leftist propaganda shows Frontline, PBS Newshour, bill moyers, charley rose, etc and direct it towards Sesame Street and double it and see what those liars then try to hide behind.
lol
‘Stand against climate denial…’ Really?! I am 97% sure everyone agrees there is a climate.
Perhaps Mr. Johnson should go to one of those schools Mr. Koch supports and take a freshman English course.
games4us5 on October 15, 2013 at 6:48 pm
I see New Mexico State University nor University of New Mexico didn’t get on the Koch gravy train, either. Too bad. Lots of sun… great for solar panels and spaceports!
Watch it there… I graduated from UNM with a BSME in 1985. The ME bldg was a study in energy conservation, from thermal storage to a rankin cycle generator. I was involved in a EPRI thermal storage research project with Professors Wilden and Truman that was quite successful. We were not focused on climate change, simply energy conservation in commercial buildings.
I am still doing that today…
TomRude says:
If Mann did not exist, we should have invented him!
Sorry, I don’t think anyone could remain sane long enough to do that.
The required hallucinogenic and mind altering substances would fry a normal persons mind long before they could even envisage anyone like him..
I heard the Koch brothers will match, dollar for dollar, any money donated to Anthony via the shameless donation plug. 🙂 Be sure to let Dr. Mann know that.
AndyG55 says:
October 15, 2013 at 9:47 pm
TomRude says:
If Mann did not exist, we should have invented him!
Sorry, I don’t think anyone could remain sane long enough to do that.
The required hallucinogenic and mind altering substances would fry a normal persons mind long before they could even envisage anyone like him..
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Oh, I don’t know… a quart of tequila could set off a pretty good vision.