When something is this ridiculous, all you can do is point and laugh. Michael Mann lends his image for political purposes in campaign video for called “Crusades Against Science 101″ with Professor Michael Mann”. Here’s the laughable imagery:
The imagery is dishonest. I challenge Dr. Mann to find any home in Norfolk that looks like that due to sea level rise. Just one will do. And no, a photoshop tricked-out house like your buds at NCDC used won’t qualify.
Dr. Mann seems to have no problem lending his image for political purposes, as this frame from the video shows:
The video footnote says:
Dr. Michael Mann is a world-renowned climate scientist and former University of Virginia professor. This animated interview recounts the grievances Prof. Mann faced at the hand of gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli, and details the threats to all Virginians caused by climate change.
“Vote climate in this election, Virginia’s future depends on it.”
Anything for “the cause” I suppose. Dr. Mann once referred to me as a “denier for dollars” (he imagines huge budgets at my disposal, but reality differs), I suppose it is only fair to return the favor by pointing out his involvement as a political science shill for VA gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe.
Here is the video:
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Mann , doing good for years ,undermining ‘the cause ‘ that is . If he did not exist, sceptics have a much harder time . Keep him in the spot light, keep him under pressure and watch him blow .
One of must interesting things that will occur when ‘the cause ‘ falls will be to see who by and how often Mann is thrown under the bus to save themselves. Could not happen to a ‘nicer ‘ guy
And had that sea level rise continued on its pace from 1930-1940 the number would have been substantially higher–but it flattened, then resumed, then flattened, etc. Also, anyone know what is happening to the ground where this gauge is sited? Is it subsiding?
“Oh Mann, that’s a lot of hype!” Grrrr….
I think it is pretty fitting that Mann is going after Cuccinelli after Cuccinelli basically said Mann was guilty of scientific fraud. This is even _after_ study after study keeps reaffirming the hockey stick. Pick your enemies carefully.
REPLY: So that makes it OK to lie with fake imagery then in your opinion? – Anthony
How can Norfolk, VA have a larger sea level rise than other places? That doesn’t make any sense. Sounds to me like a big component of the so-called “sea level rise” is actually subsidence.
North East Canada was the centre of a huge glacier, known as the Laurentide ice sheet, with a thickness of several kilometres. The weight of the ice bowed the Earth’s surface down.
The vast majority of the ice eventually melted at the end of the Ice Age, leaving a depression in its
wake. While this depression has endured for thousands of years, it has been gradually recovering or
“flattening itself out.” The term “glacial rebound” refers to this exact behaviour, whereby the land in
formerly glaciated areas rises after the ice load has disappeared. The Hudson Bay uplift is about 2-3 meters/century.
Consequently areas further south (mainly along the east USA coastline) are slowly sinking as the continental balance is maintained, the consequence of th last Ice age and nothing to do with the s.c. AGW.
Norfolk does have a flooding problem, as it is not a very high elevation and has poor drainage. Except for under passes the water seldom gets more than a foot or two high in the streets. I believe the rise in tide level is mostly due to the land sinking.
If one averages the temperatures for the weather stations in Virginia (see Bit Tooth Energy-Virginia”) you will find that there was a significant temperature drop in the period from 1950 to 1968 that the state average temperature has yet to recover from. Thus the statements concerning average state temperatures are incorrect.
What is a “relative increase” in sea level? Is that different from an actual increase?
I guess short and squat folks can get away with low ceilings.
Once upon a time Gavin was the skeptic’s best friend. Now it’s Mann’s turn, since it’s just too easy to point out how counterproductive/stupid/silly his initiatives are.
“Here’s the video…”
Ah, no thanks, no interest in seeing or hearing what that fool has to say.
Pippen Kool says:
October 8, 2013 at 3:02 pm
Please cite the studies which you imagine support the bogus Hockey Stick.
Mann is a blatant fraudster, as shown by the HS itself, hiding the decline in Briffa’s line behind a mass of spaghetti.
Cuccinelli was right to seek the emails he wrote on a work computer while a VA public employee.
Michael Mann does not like publicity.
Michael Mann loves nothing more that to debate his critics. 🙂
http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2012/07/inside-michael-mann-bunker-he-carefully.html
Mann is great in the art of selling disaster. Perhaps I’m wrong here, but this seems to be his sole purpose, selling fear. Science was never the intent.
Pippen Kool, “study after study keeps reaffirming the hockey stick.”
You just destroyed any scientific credibility you might have had. Mann’s hockey stick has been refuted numerous by the best minds in the world. It is not any longer kool to try to defend that fraud. Don’t embarrass yourself.
As an earth sciences professor, it is tantamount to fraud to exploit a natural sinking of the coast caused by a down-flexure in response to the rise in land surface in Canada from glacial rebound. These guys have no shame. Useful idiots like Pippen Kool at least have ignorance on their side.
Bloody hell. The more I hear the real Michael Mann , the more I realise he’s bluffing in the lucrative wind. Really, really desperate b*llocks. So bad I’m shocked.
He has fallen down a Mann hole and is surely in over his head on sea level rise. A fitting mental image suitable for a coffee mug cartoon.
I couldn’t finish it. The number of flat-out lies outraged me too much.
One–he never admitted that even he had to retract his original hockey stick.
From Pippen Kool on October 8, 2013 at 3:02 pm:
You’ll have to specify if you mean the earlier “weak” version with the visible Medieval Warm Period, the flat-handled “there were no high temperatures until now” highly-discredited one the IPCC no longer can use, or one of the newer “obfuscated spaghetti” versions.
Wednesday, August 14, 2013
“Mr Mann’s graph is perhaps the most laughable and widely-discredited object in the history of bad science supporting worse politics.”
Thursday, April 15, 2010
There He Goes Again: Mann Claims His Hockey Stick was Given “Clean Bill of Health”
Monday, September 26, 2011
There He Goes Again, Version 4.0: Mann Claims His Hockey Stick was Affirmed by the NAS
Monday, December 5, 2011
There He Goes Again, Version 5.0: Mann Claims His Hockey Stick was Affirmed by the NAS
If he keeps getting reaffirmed like this, there’ll be no need for the formality of official falsification.
Anthony: This not photoshopped image shows that Mann clearly knows what he is talking about.
http://brackishfaq.webspace.virginmedia.com/Projects/Resources/04_20_evidence_of_things_not_seen.jpg
With friends like Dr. Mann, who needs enemies. Keep up the good work, Dr Mann, you are helping to expose man-made global warming scientists as fraudulent hucksters.
Shock news. Mann links subsidence to . So predictable it’s boring.
Mann is the sad fool that did not know when to shut up and run with the money. This is one of the few guys that will eventually pay for this mess.
Two Norfolks (VA and UK) with a similar problem, isostatic depression completely unrelated to CAGW but that won’t stop Mann et al claiming otherwise. Question is: how to debunk him and his charlatan friends so thoroughly and publicly that no-one will ever take the blindest bit of notice of them again?
Coaloffire, as Vukcevic says, isostacy explains the relative increase in sea level i.e. the land is falling in relation to a fairly static sea.