From the James Hansen said the oceans would boil and the Tabloid Climatology™ department…
As a long-suffering member of the television news media, some-days, I just want to find the reporter and slap him upside the head and tell him to do some basic science research before making wild claims on national TV. This is one of those days. The graphic below says it all.
From the Business and Media Institute comes this howler from CBS News about the latest IPCC report.
“[CBS] Evening News” took a different tack, airing a story about oyster farming and complaints that climate change is ruining a man’s business. But in Ben Tracy’s story, which mentioned the IPCC’s latest report, he said that oceans have absorbed much of the heat caused by CO2 and that ocean temperatures have risen only slightly. Then he made a claim that Principal Research Scientist Dr. Roy Spencer of the University of Alabama in Huntsville called “totally misleading and irresponsible.”
Here’s what the reporter said, after telling us most of the heat went into the oceans:
“Had all that heat gone into the atmosphere, air temperatures could have risen by more than 200 degrees [showed 212 degrees onscreen],” Tracy warned.
Watch the video here, be sure to leave a comment for CBS News.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57605102/oyster-is-a-canary-in-a-coal-mine-as-oceans-warm/
Spencer told the MRC’s Business and Media Institute,
“The oceans have warmed by an average of less than 0.1 deg. C (only the SURFACE by about 0.5 deg.) since the 1950s, and since that is so much water mass, the absorbed heat equivalent to 0.1 deg. IF RELEASED ALL AT ONCE IN THE ATMOSPHERE [it] would, indeed, be hundreds of degrees. But this is physically impossible. It is a meaningless statistic. The heat actually had to go through the atmosphere before it reached the ocean.”
jones says:
October 2, 2013 at 2:38 pm
What would happen if the sun was to release all of the energy it will release over the next 4 billion years but over the next 3 seconds?
I wonder…..
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Yeah, but that wouldn’t be our fault… unless, of course, they could spin it that way.
The scary thing is, there are some idiots in the world who would actually trigger such an event if they could, and destroy the Earth, purely to make themselves “right”. There really ought to be laws against those who plot against humanity.
“Thirty percent is absorbed by the oceans, where it produces a weak acid. But it’s strong enough to impact sea life and prevent oysters from creating their shells.”
Hey dude, the ocean is alkaline…
In the past CO2 levels have risen to 7000 ppm the Ocean must have been extremely acidic in the during those times…..
But….
Corals developed during the Ordovician when CO2 was ca. 4200 ppm.
Molluscs appeared during the Cambrian when CO2 was ca. 4500 ppm.
An they will all die now because CO2 levels have ‘risen’ up to 400 ppm?
Of topic, but first, the supreme court did NOT pick up the legal challenge to the EPA and second the shutdown shuttered the EPA.
Almost everything is the canary in a coal mine of
global warmingclimate bad behaviour.@Sam the First and P Walker –
Sam, these morons have method in their stupidity. Stupid they may be but they are still determined to shove their feces down our throats. Walker, I got in some trouble with my wife because of the rather loud and extended profanity that idiotic, malicious piece of agitprop prompted from me. It almost seems like they’re trying to piss us off more than anything else. Most of the time I either laugh, cry or vomit hearing their spiel, but this one really got to me – it was really over the top.
Here a link is to an article on the study linking CO2 to declining Oyster Production. I am more than a little skeptical. Anyone else have comments on this aspect of the story? http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2012/apr/hatchery-managers-osu-scientists-link-ocean-acidification-larval-oyster-failure
The research has been funded by a grant from the National Science Foundation, and supported by NOAA and the Pacific Coast Shellfish Growers Association. Other authors on the journal article include Chris Langdon, of OSU’s Hatfield Marine Science Center, and Richard Feely, of NOAA’s Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratories
Jimbo says:
October 2, 2013 at 3:50 pm
Sooooo, after the oceans boil, everything else will be gone, but the canaries will still be thriving (probably in abandoned coal mines)?
(Don’t know how you come up with all the links and sources so quickly. Thanks!)
Can not fix this. People want to believe they can fix things. The man-global warming propaganda worked.
I’m glad you actually had video proof of this stuff. If you had simply stated what they said without the proof, I would have said you just made it up. Incomprehensible how stupid that is. Boggles the mind.
It is really incredible a so-called “reputable” News Organization would allow such balderdash.
I mean, the Global Warming they promised simply isn’t occurring. So where is the heat? “Hidden in the deep ocean.” And now they are adding, “But boy O boy is it ever a lot of heat that is hidden and we can’t see or measure. Even though we can’t measure it and have no data, we can tell you with exactitude it could raise the air temperatures 200 degrees.”
Come on. Get real. This could be a really cold winter in the Northeast of the USA. When folk are shouldering their way through the bitter blasts and stinging snow, do you think they are going to want to hear even a minute more of this complete balderdash?
In order for news reporters to do their research, they first must be trained on how to turn on their computers. But then, perhaps that was too cruel. After all Hansen probably knows how to turn on a computer and he apparently is twice as dumb as any news reporter…. the oceans are going to boil away like they did on Venus… LOL!
I would like to draw your attention to the following article:
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2013/10/2/a-report-from-the-royal.html
I have extracted the summary of the table displayed in this article and have bolded the surprising news from AR5.
“What? Yes that’s right. The real story may not be in the IPCC rowback on temperature ranges, or its cack-handed “explanations” for the stalling temperatures. It may in fact all be in this table. Be sure to look for yourself. Every single catastrophic scenario bar one has a rating of “Very unlikely” or “Exceptionally unlikely” and/or has “low confidence”. The only disaster scenario that the IPCC consider at all likely in the possible lifetimes of many of us alive now is “Disappearance of Arctic summer sea ice”, which itself has a ‘likely’ rating and liable to occur by mid century with medium confidence. As the litany of climate disasters go, that’s it.”
[“back-handed” or “caca-handed” explanations? Mod]
More seriously, the ignorance in this statement really is mind-boggling. Anyone who has had a first-year college chemistry course knows that whatever acidity (actually lowering of pH) is mostly canceled by the buffering effect of carbonates (i.e., to bicarbonates, which still have an alkaline reaction, even though they are technically an acid salt – like your ordinary baking soda, NaHCO3) and other soluble salts in the ocean. And as P Walker points out, if the oceans warm they will release CO2 and their pH will rise, not fall, the reverse of acidification. The warmer the water, the less soluble CO2 is in it. Not to mention the complete ignorance of the Second Law of Thermodynamics (which you learn about in high school physics class) concerning heat transfer between the atmosphere and oceans. Obviously these mollusks (a recently evolved kind, to be sure, descended from humans) don’t realize that one does not have to be highly educated in the sciences to see the ridiculousness of their arguments. The basics betray them right off the bat.
This appears to be the study. I am not a scientist, but I did a word search and “virus” is not in the study once and a virus appears to be impacting oyster production elsewhere in the world. It would be nice perhaps to see that addressed. But again, I am not knowledgeable about chemistry. http://www.aslo.org/lo/pdf/vol_57/issue_3/0698.pdf
Amazing.
Never before is the dumbing down of ‘education’ in the Western World so evident as it is in the main stream media the world over. Journalists embody the ideal subject for propagandists. That stupid must hurt a lot … maybe some of the reason lies in this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wait-but-why/generation-y-unhappy_b_3930620.html?view=print&comm_ref=false&goback=%2Egde_1707477_member_275652338#21
It’s called ‘something I prepared earlier.’
Yeah trying to leave a comment is like chewing a brick….”there was a problem…etc”…wonder how long they will leave this total crap online…..
@LexingtonGreen –
Quite simply, the “research” behind this article is crap. CO2 cannot significantly acidify the ocean because, as I pointed out, as long as there are carbonates in the water added CO2 will react with them to form bicarbonates, thereby greatly shrinking the decline of pH. The ocean cannot absorb enough CO2 to become acidic, i.e., with a pH of less than 7.
It may be that oyster larvae could be affected by high carbonate concentrations in the water, but if so it would be from dissolved carbonates from some terrestrial source. My guess is that the experiment was contaminated, due to carelessness or deliberately to produce the desired result, or faked altogether.
…contrary to the [weather]: http://www.weather.com/news/weather-winter/winter-storm-atlas-forecast-20131001
The networks are definitely doing their part to scare the tar out of us as shown in this report:
http://mrc.org/articles/networks-embrace-catastrophic-warnings-latest-ipcc-report.
Think that isn’t bad enough? The Society of Environmental Journalists is holding a meeting because environmentalists say the media are not reporting enough on AGW! An excerpt from The Daily Caller: “The Society of Environmental Journalists will be hosting a meeting on Friday that will discuss the media coverage surrounding global warming, which will include a panel of journalists from left-leaning news sites.” Source: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/02/liberal-media-huddles-to-re-hype-global-warming/
200 degrees? Whew! We sure dodged a bullet there. Good thing the heat decided to go into the oceans instead of the air. But, what if it changes its mind? It’s like the sword of Vulcan hanging over us. We’re doomed.
They do seem fond of their canary-in-coal-mine analogies. It’s really the perfect Appeal to Emotion. Here’s an analogy for them: their CAGW religion is like a parrot in a birdcage. A dead one, despite all their protestations to the contrary.
The claim is that over the last 50 years the temperature rise in the oceans, directly from increased net anthropogenic forcing, has been about 0.1 degree Celsius. Considering the locus of the volume expansion of seawater between 20 degree C, 0.1MPa and 0 degree C, 100MPa is relatively constant at 250E-6/K for 35g/kg salinity, the 0.1 degree C temperature rise provides a reasonable high-side estimate of the steric component of sea level rise of 92mm over that 50 years.
That might be in line with the AR4 estimate of 2.3mm/year, but doesn’t accord with the median of all adjusted tide gauge series. The slope of the satellite data trend is no proper guide, as it has been calibrated to the slope from a ‘preferred’ set of tide gauges (ie cherry-picked).
Um, weren’t atmospheric CO2 concentrations much higher at times in the remote past? Aren’t there fossil mollusks and crustaceans from those periods?
BobW in NC –
It’s only what you would expect from der Fuehrer’s Ministry of Truth (the mainstream media). It’s ironic that the leftist (I don’t say “liberal,” because these people are reactionary, not liberal) media are in effect saying that the IPCC and der Fuehrer and all their satraps aren’t wrong enough – they need to be even wronger than they are.