While pro-warming political pundits like to demonize climate skeptic research by comparing it to that of tobacco company research and marketing, it seems there is a parallel between the story of global warming and marijuana demonization. This story is about the parallels in research, and does not represent any position on drug use by WUWT – Anthony
Guest Essay by Dr. Robert G. Brown, Duke University (elevated from a comment)
Judith Curry’s remarks [Scientists and motivated reasoning], as usual, are dead on the money.
Here’s an almost perfectly analogous problem: CNN recently completely reversed its editorial policy and now calls for the legalization of Marijuana. Sanjay Gupta, its “resident physician editorialist”, who had previously somewhat vigorously led this opposition from the scientific point of view completely reversed his own position, and explained why in considerable detail both in text and in online video.
Historically, marijuana was both legal and considered to be a useful medicine all the way up through the beginning of the twentieth century. At that point, William Randolph Hearst had invested heavily in pine forests in Mexico, intending to sell them to his own newspapers to make newsprint. The Dupont family were discovering petrochemicals including plastic and oil-derived pharmaceuticals. A machine was invented that was the equivalent of a “cotton gin” for hemp — it mechanically stripped down the hemp plant and turned it into useful fiber, oil, and vegetable waste that could be used as an animal fodder (yes, we can imagine some very happy cows, can’t we?:-). One of many uses for the now inexpensive hemp fiber was to make equally inexpensive newsprint paper that was clearly superior in quality and cost to wood pulp paper. Another was that the oils and fiber could be used to synthesize various chemical products. Both Dupont and Hearst were suddenly hundreds of millions of dollars at risk.
They turned to Harry Anslinger, who happened to be Hearst’s brother in law. Anslinger was a suddenly idle ex-prohibitionist working for the FBI, and he created a propaganda campaign that portrayed hemp as literally maddening those that actually smoked it, leading them to commit acts of rape and robbery and moral turpitude. At the same time, political revolutions in Mexico (funded and fought by a private army belonging to Hearst) and a negative portrayal of blacks and Mexicans as common users of hemp for recreation purposes added a useful racist hook. Between these, congress outlawed hemp.
So matters remained until the Viet Nam war and the 1960s and early 70s. As part of the quiet “revolution” against what many perceived as a military-industrial complex with a life of its own that was fighting a series of expensive and pointless wars, pot had become “the” recreational drug of choice among young hippies and freaks as well as the military draftees who fought the war. Its use was so prevalent that Texas dropped the question about cannabis use from its entrance exam to police academy, because “asking a vet of they had ever smoked pot was like asking them if they smoked Camels”. Suddenly a large fraction of an entire generation of U.S. citizens had smoked pot and discovered that no, it does not turn you into a crazed rapist, and usually does not make you insane unless you are most of the way there on your own already. They also discovered that it is neither physically addictive nor dangerous in the sense that it is literally impossible to overdose on marijuana — it is literally one of the safest compounds we know of, with no meaningful fatal dose.
However, Ronald Reagan took office in the 80′s, an immediately declared a “War on Drugs”. Marijuana was reclassified as a schedule 1 narcotic by the federal government [in 1970], trumping communities that had already begun to experiment with decriminalization or even legalization. This once again gave law enforcement agencies lots of useful work (helpful if you are trying to build a police state), gave cops everywhere the ability to selectively enforce drug laws and thereby control the populace, and caused us to rather suddenly need to build enormous numbers of prisons because it rapidly turned out that by making marijuana trafficking a felony and putting even mere users in jail (just like heroin, cocaine, and actually dangerous drugs) somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 of all prison sentences were being handed down for low grade drug offenses. Our expenditure on controlling pot went from next to nothing to tens of billions of dollars a year. Obviously, many profited from this, including (as usual) the money launderers and organized criminals that made fortunes providing marijuana on the black market, and the politicians and bankers that provided well-paid-for top cover.
And now to the interesting bit (although I think all of the above is interesting:-). One of the reasons given for making marijuana a schedule 1 felony class drug [in 1970] was that we didn’t know about the harm it might cause, and there was no known medical benefit. Yes, it had been used as a medicine for centuries, the founding fathers literally “mandated” the growing of hemp on American farms because it was so useful a plant both industrially and medicinally, but we had entered the era of double blind placebo controlled drug trials, and there were now enormous pharmaceutical companies whose billion-dollar products were at risk, dwarfing even the Duponts’ complaint back in the 30′s. Its risks were similarly unstudied.
A period of research then ensued. If you wanted to study pot, you had to both get funded and get the experimental marijuana from a single, small farm in Mississippi that grew “legal” pot for this purpose. The government itself was in complete control, in other words of what research got conducted, because even if you could find outside funding, you couldn’t get legal pot to do the research with without approval.
Gupta initially opposed marijuana legalization because a review of the medical literature showed him that 96% of all published articles found some sort of negative effect of marijuana, and almost no articles showed a benefit, especially compared to existing approved medications. However, a couple of anecdotal cases coming out of the states that had legalized medicinal marijuana in SPITE of the federal governments laws caused him to go back and reexamine the funding model. In retrospect it shouldn’t have been surprising, but he learned that 96% of all funded research was to look for negative effects of marijuana, and that to get funded and permission to get government grown pot was so difficult that there simply weren’t all that many papers in the first place. In well over thirty years of intensive examination, all of the examination was literally preselected to find problems, almost none to find benefits, and one had to walk on water and push much paper to do either one (and relatively few scientists had bothered).
That caused him to examine the body of emerging, still anecdotal, evidence from the states that had legalized medical marijuana. They showed that — again unsurprisingly — marijuana is a rich pharmacopeia with multiple legitimate medical uses that could survived double blind placebo controlled investigation, while at the same time having minimal side effects and no known lethal dose. Perhaps he came to realize that its negative effects might, conceivably, have been a bit exaggerated or might arise from confounding uncontrolled elements. Confirmation bias is, after all, the bete noir of science.
This situation almost perfectly matches the evolution of “climate science”. Nobody cared about it for decades, but suddenly a group of individuals emerged that all benefited from the demonization of carbon. This included environmental groups, that hated civilization itself and the burning of anything (as long, of course, as their own lifestyle was preserved), energy producers that saw in this the opportunity to triple or quadruple their profits by creating artificial scarcity of a plentiful resource, politicians that saw in this the opportunity to raise taxes, get elected on a world-saving “issue”, and perhaps line their own pockets along the way, and a United Nations that saw an opportunity to transform it into a way to tax the rich nations and transfer money to developing nations (while again lining various pockets along the way). The role of Anslinger was admirably met by one James Hansen, a True Believer who never stinted and does not stint today in exaggerating the data and claims of disaster (five meter sea level rise! temperatures like that on Venus!). And suddenly, quite literally all funded research was on how burning carbon was bad for the climate.
Even completely ethical scientists have to eat, and if the only way they can eat is to get funded, and the only way they can get funded is to submit proposals that seek to prove that CO_2 is bad, guess what they will propose to study? And if they want to get funded AGAIN, guess what they will find? Climate science has been effectively corrupted beyond any hope of objectivity.
On the good side of things, scientists are actually usually pretty ethical. Also, in the end data talks, bullshit walks. The hypothesis of CAGW or CACC could, in fact, be true (across a wide spectrum of the meaning of “true”, in fact). However, recent data is not in good correspondence with the theories that have predicted it, and many good scientists are in the process of reassessing their conclusions. As is the almost simultaneous case with regard to marijuana, the confounding evidence is starting to overwhelm to narrowly funded and directed arguments to date. We will see where the future takes us, in both cases.
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Addendum by Anthony:
1. I have added links to historical references into the essay along with some small edits [in brackets] for clarity.
2. This paragraph:
A period of research then ensued. If you wanted to study pot, you had to both get funded and get the experimental marijuana from a single, small farm in Mississippi that grew “legal” pot for this purpose.
Has a parallel with source data for global warming research. If you want to study the surface temperature record, there is one source: NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) who is not only the administrator, collator and keeper of the surface temperature record for the United States, but also the world via their Global Historical Climatological Network (GHCN). All other surface temperature datasets, HadCRUT, GISS, and even the supposedly independent BEST, are derivatives and/or custom interpretations of this source data, which as we know, is custom blended with NCDC’s own set of adjustments.
Like with pot research, the government is again the only source for data to study the surface record.
And people wonder why I spend so much time and effort to examine weather stations and adjustments.
agfosterjr says:
August 22, 2013 at 2:27 pm
The drug war has to some extent destroyed Western Civilization, especially Latin Civilization. It converted banana republics to more profitable coca republics, financed the FARC, launched the careers of Chavez and Morales (a former coca growers syndicate boss), destroyed Columbia, left Mexico in shambles, and ratchets up gang warfare in the U.S. just like Prohibition did…
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Gangsters, hacking up bodies and leaving them around in bags to be found. Not want I want to have around as a ruling body.
Policycritic, thanks for the links.
One more scary off topic comment.
Recently heard on WPR about the growing AIDS cases.
If left on checked, the current college aged gay man
who will develop AIDS by age 50, is
projected to be, 1 out of every 2 men.
Of course they are promoting more condom use and newer drugs (over priced preventative drug). But that is a startling projection.
> and does not represent any position on drug use by WUWT
So what is your position on “drug use by WUWT”?
(Only joking).
Chad did you get the point of the post? If the govnt pays for research to find harm related to pot use it most assuredly will be found, so your well documented evidence is probably about the same quality as Mr Mann’s. Further you proudly testify to never having used recreational drugs so your knowledge is not frontline but based on reviews of paid for research. Then comes the suggestion that pot use equals abuse “mentally and physically crippling oneself”, really? You couldn’t imagine that the vast majority of users have a little puff then proceed to read, write, eat, or just contemplate the wonders of life?
Final call. What do IPCC and pot have in common?
Dope.
Dear R. Murphy,
Why do you so patronizingly ask if Mr. Wozniak got the point of the post? Dr. Brown made a grandiose, largely unsupported, assumption in his article that marijuana use is essentially harmless. That was a big assumption to make. Instead of swallowing it whole, Mr. W. questioned that assumption and then added his own experience as you seem to have done at the end of your post.
Why should Mr. W. NOT be pardonably proud of a lifetime of being “clean and sober?” That is a good thing. If I had, for instance, never over-eaten even once in my life, I think I might boast a little about that, too. You think using pot is just fine. Mr. W. does not and says he is pleased to be able to say that he has lived up to his own standards. Is that something to scoff at?
Also, how do you know that all Mr. W’s evidence for harm caused by marijuana comes from biased sources? Is there NO ONE researching the effects of pot on the human body who simply wanted to find out the truth and who may have discovered that it can cause significant harm?
I respect you, R., and your opinion. I write here only because of your unnecessarily sneering tone. We have plenty of jerks who post here who deserve your contempt. How about saving your fire for them? Mr. W. is ON YOUR SIDE in this battle for Truth in Science. A house divided may not fall, but it is demoralized and, thus, weakened.
Your sister in the battle for Truth in Science,
Janice
Interesting discussion by rgb and commenters.
I say legalize the pot but if someone is driving like a soccer mom talking on a cell phone, then write ’em a summons. Yea get that soccer mom too. Stoned is an excuse, stupid isn’t.
On a serious note, legalization of “drugs” will remove the profit and much associated crime.
On another serious note, remove/limit government mandates/subsidies/funding of global warming scam and much of that associated crime will resolve itself.
One more late night comment. If the extreme stoners (hippies) want to get stoned and live in a cave it’s not my business. But when they decide that they should tell me how I should live then I should have an equal influence on their lives. At that point I may choose to make choices that may not make them happy. Live and let live, go get stoned but leave me alone.
Correlation is not causation, some people are just stupid and being stoned makes no difference.
DirkH says:
August 22, 2013 at 11:46 am ,
It is William Burroughs. He wrote Naked Lunch. He is against the controllers. And then there is this:
http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/02/why-medical-marijuana-laws-reduce-traffic-deaths/
MinB says:
August 22, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Marijuana And Cancer: Scientists Find Cannabis Compound Stops Metastasis In Aggressive Cancers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html
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Cannabis Can Prevent Cancer Caused By Cigarette Use, According To New Study
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bpb/36/7/36_b13-00183/_article
Janice I reread my comment and perhaps my impatience, at hearing some of the ‘tired old’ , did show. Apologies. I wonder if you might reread your comment on Dr. Brown’s post and ask yourself if this isn’t a case of ” the ‘pot’ calling the kettle……….” Cheers
So they used to exaggerate the effects from dope, now all the propaganda is picked to exaggerate its usefulness. Serious dangers are ignored by the greedy marijuana lobby. The kids are doped and they are maimed, a pattern is set for life for many.
Politicalized science and herbology and medicine all suck. Dumb yourself down if you wish, please don’t let any kids get it. This new stuff is very dangerous. The psychological effects have been known for thousands of years, but it’s being ignored:
Thousands of years of herbology; Auraveda, European, Tibetan, Chinese, even Native American; tens of thousands of herbs are approved as medicine in these traditions….NOT EVER is marijuana indicated. Never! “Medical marijuana” is an oxymoron. It’s dope, it makes you dopey, dull, and ends up creating just as much pain as it decreases during initial use. Look it up in Materia Medica….it’s not there!
“Follow the money” is good advice for any analyst, and follow power, prestige, etc. as further proxies. This situation is mirrored in major socio-economic situations of the past. Mancur Olson (in The Rise and Decline of Nations) described how apartheid in South Africa grew out of mining on the Witwatersrand, as the gold mines grew bigger and went deeper. Whites were being supplanted by blacks. The whites stopped that by passing laws that limited the ratio of white to black workers. It threw thousands of blacks out of work, or ended their chance of work.
Similarly, Thomas Sowell (in The Economics and Politics of Race) described how Jim Crow came about in the South, following a surge in the economic betterment and political fortunes of blacks following the Civil War. In order to protect white agricultural establishments, laws were adopted that began to suppress black farmers.
In each case, these laws took away the ability of blacks to fend for themselves, economically handicapping and impoverishing them. Once you have taken away a man’s ability to provide for himself and his, it is open game to despise him in every other facet of his existence. Some of this shows in the contempt of the alarmists for anyone who “denies” their “science”. Certainly they have made it hard for anyone to do science that doesn’t at least give lip service to their beliefs.
Hi, R. Murphy,
Thanks so much for replying (and how nice to know that you read my 11:26AM post). I did re-read it. The only line I found that might qualify me as a “pot,” heh, heh, was: “… the analogy is accurate, but weak, and proves little.”
Here it is, re-worded to be more polite: “The analogy is accurate and eloquently argued, but, my dear Dr. Brown, I beg you to consider that the legalization of pot issue does more to distract and create unnecessary strife than it helps to promote the truth that human CO2 emissions cannot significantly affect the climate of the earth.” How’s that?
Thanks for helping me to be less blunt and unfriendly in my writing, R.. Sometimes, I’m blunt because I’m lazy and sometimes……………. I’m blunt because IT’S FUN!! Bwah, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaaaaaa! And I need to work on that.
Yours sincerely,
J. Moore
R. Murphy,
P.S. Why do the British people sometimes end a rather critical comment with “Cheers”? It sure comes off (to this fairly typical American) much closer to being flipped off than to a friendly greeting. It’s akin to that ultra-slimy “just sayin'” (ooo, I can’t STAND that phrase). And I am not assuming you meant “Cheers” in anything but a cheery, friendly, manner, just letting you know it tends to come off as disingenuous to some of us in that context. Okay, okay, when you want my advice, you’ll ask for it….. guess talking about “Cheers” helped me to cope with my above admitting that I was too blunt (I must say, that Dr. Brown’s own bluntness did much to bring out mine, but that is no excuse).
J. Moore
Janice I’m sure you want a modern clean world for your kids as much as I. One thing that can destroy a kid is a criminal record for pot. It is out of scale. Shouldn’t the punishment fit the crime, is there a crime? You seem to be a straight thinker, think it through.
“””””…..Terry Oldberg says:
August 22, 2013 at 8:11 am
On the whole, Dr. Brown does an excellent job. However, there is an inaccuracy and it is an important one. He says that “…recent data is not in good correspondence with the theories that have predicted it” ; Actually, the climate models are not “theories” in the scientific sense of the word and they do not “predict” but rather “project.” A model that predicts supplies information to a maker of policy on CO2 emissions about the outcomes from his or her policy decisions. A model which, like the current crop of climate models, “projects” provides a policy maker with no information…….””””””
A MODEL is a set of defined algorithms that are to be applied to INPUT data, If the algorithms are followed, the end result is an OUTPUT. If you repeatedly apply the same algorithms of the MODEL to the same INPUT data, you will repeatedly obtain the same output result, although it could be noisy if some of the algorithms are statistical processes.
Remove all the guff, and the INPUT leads repeatedly to the same OUTPUT.
That is a PREDICTION, no matter which word you choose to substitute for the word. It is a claim (before the fact) that if you apply the algorithms of the MODEL to the INPUT data, you WILL get the same OUTPUT.
A PROJECTION occurs when you apply a set of algorithms to a SUBSET of an INPUT, and then take a GUESS (INFER) what the output would be if you applied those algorithms to the complete INPUT data set..
If the model is incorrect, the ONLY information that exists, is the original INPUT data set.
Dear R.,
Thanks for the compliment. Without debating the issue (I’d just rather not, here, please forgive me) while this doesn’t solve the problem completely for you, I think society’s increasingly viewing a Minor in Possession of (marijuana) conviction as not terribly serious could give you some measure of comfort. If the above commenters are typical, that minor’s future employer will not view such a conviction as much of a problem. As for law enforcement jobs where drug enforcement is required, the controlled substance law would, of course, have to change.
Well, anyway, keep on fighting for what you believe in. I’ve seen too many stoners turn out just fine despite bad juvenile criminal records to think such a kid would be “destroy(ed)”. They may be hampered, though, for awhile, I’ll give you that.
And, with a bright Dad (or Mom?) with a caring nature like you, unless that kid got the renegade pirate recessive genes, YOUR kids are going to turn out just fine. Those weren’t your kids I saw skate boarding down the freeway off-ramp………………………. were they? Next time, though, how about giving them a RIDE (all the way into downtown) to the dentist, much safer (lol).
Glad you and I could have a bit of a chat. Sorry so curt (“Not curt enough!” you say? heh, heh), but, I tend to talk waaay too much on WUWT and, thus, may overcompensate a bit at times (as here).
Take care,
Janice
As for pot, I can’t stand the stench of it; nor cigarettes either. Only problem I have with cigarettes is they simply don’t kill people quickly enough, to spare us future generations of people with no common sense.
But if I want a good strong rope, I’d rather have one made out of gelspun polyethylene, from an oil well, than a hemp rope made from some green farmer’s “organic” garden.
But if it floats your boat, I don’t stand in between persons, and any cliff they are determined to jump off.
“””””…..Janice Moore says:
August 22, 2013 at 9:38 pm
R. Murphy,
P.S. Why do the British people sometimes end a rather critical comment with “Cheers”? It sure comes off (to this fairly typical American) much closer to being flipped off than to a friendly greeting. It’s akin to that ultra-slimy “just sayin’” (ooo, I can’t STAND that phrase)…….””””””
Well the British people simply don’t speak Italian too well, or they would say “Ciao” instead of “Cheers”.
So Janice,
Yours sincerely,
George E. Smith
Let us know. It’s currently against the law in the US (per Ford and Reagan edicts), and scientists have to jump through government legal procedural hoops to obtain the right to conduct experiments involving natural THC. My understanding is that they don’t get approval. Synthetic? Yes. But not natural THC. The real scientific work on this is being done outside the US.
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traffic-deaths/
M Simon says:
August 22, 2013 at 7:55 pm
MinB says:
August 22, 2013 at 5:30 pm
Marijuana And Cancer: Scientists Find Cannabis Compound Stops Metastasis In Aggressive Cancers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html
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Cannabis Can Prevent Cancer Caused By Cigarette Use, According To New Study
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bpb/36/7/36_b13-00183/_article……”””””
Well not smoking either one, will greatly reduce your likelihood of contracting lung cancer; and will also make you richer.
My behavioral Psychologist life long friend, puts it this way.
“There’s a body of peer reviewed medical evidence, that cigarette smoking causes lung cancer.
There is also a body of peer reviewed medical evidence, that sex cause children.
The cigarette evidence is much better ! “
Dear Mr. Smith,
I think we may have a slight misunderstanding re: “cheers.” I understand and like the cheery British greeting. They sometimes seem to use it, however, after quite critical, mildly pejorative comments. It was to those times I was referring. It comes off to me as a snarky, “Crap happens!” (with a big smile) as someone drives by you in their car, splashing muddy water from a puddle all over you. “Cheers” per se is nice. Following a criticism, it sounds phony or worse.
Thanks for trying to help me (oh, brother — do you REALLY think I’m that ignorant, yes?),
Sincerely but with a heavy sigh,
Janice
Janice lets agree to frame that comment. You are something, I feel blessed. Wow
Well, my dear R. Murphy,
You send me to bed with a smile on my face. Thanks for your generous words. My pleasure!
Take care,
Janice