Climate Sensitivity Deconstructed

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

I haven’t commented much on my most recents posts, because of the usual reasons: a day job, and the unending lure of doing more research, my true passion. To be precise, recently I’ve been frying my synapses trying to twist my head around the implications of the finding that the global temperature forecasts of the climate models are mechanically and accurately predictable by a one-line equation. It’s a salutary warning: kids, don’t try climate science at home.

your brain on climateFigure 1. What happens when I twist my head too hard around climate models.

Three years ago, inspired by Lucia Liljegren’s ultra-simple climate model that she called “Lumpy”, and with the indispensable assistance of the math-fu of commenters Paul_K and Joe Born, I made what to me was a very surprising discovery. The GISSE climate model could be accurately replicated by a one-line equation. In other words, the global temperature output of the GISSE model is described almost exactly by a lagged linear transformation of the input to the models (the “forcings” in climatespeak, from the sun, volcanoes, CO2 and the like).  The correlation between the actual GISSE model results and my emulation of those results is 0.98 … doesn’t get much better than that. Well, actually, you can do better than that, I found you can get 99+% correlation by noting that they’ve somehow decreased the effects of forcing due to volcanoes. But either way, it was to me a very surprising result. I never guessed that the output of the incredibly complex climate models would follow their inputs that slavishly.

Since then, Isaac Held has replicated the result using a third model, the CM2.1 climate model. I have gotten the CM2.1 forcings and data, and replicated his results. The same analysis has also been done on the GDFL model, with the same outcome. And I did the same analysis on the Forster data, which is an average of 19 model forcings and temperature outputs. That makes four individual models plus the average of 19 climate models, and all of the the results have been the same, so the surprising conclusion is inescapable—the climate model global average surface temperature results, individually or en masse, can be replicated with over 99% fidelity by a simple, one-line equation.

However, the result of my most recent “black box” type analysis of the climate models was even more surprising to me, and more far-reaching.

Here’s what happened. I built a spreadsheet, in order to make it simple to pull up various forcing and temperature datasets and calculate their properties. It uses “Solver” to iteratively select the values of tau (the time constant) and lambda (the sensitivity constant) to best fit the predicted outcome. After looking at a number of results, with widely varying sensitivities, I wondered what it was about the two datasets (model forcings, and model predicted temperatures) that determined the resulting sensitivity. I wondered if there were some simple relationship between the climate sensitivity, and the basic statistical properties of the two datasets (trends, standard deviations, ranges, and the like). I looked at the five forcing datasets that I have (GISSE, CCSM3, CM2.1, Forster, and Otto) along with the associated temperature results. To my total surprise, the correlation between the trend ratio (temperature dataset trend divided by forcing dataset trend) and the climate sensitivity (lambda) was 1.00. My jaw dropped. Perfect correlation? Say what? So I graphed the scatterplot.

sensitivity vs trend ratio models transientFigure 2. Scatterplot showing the relationship of lambda and the ratio of the output trend over the input trend. Forster is the Forster 19-model average. Otto is the Forster input data as modified by Otto, including the addition of a 0.3 W/m2 trend over the length of the dataset. Because this analysis only uses radiative forcings and not ocean forcings, lambda is the transient climate response (TCR). If the data included ocean forcings, lambda would be the equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS). Lambda is in degrees per W/m2 of forcing. To convert to degrees per doubling of CO2, multiply lambda by 3.7.

Dang, you don’t see that kind of correlation very often, R^2 = 1.00 to two decimal places … works for me.

Let me repeat the caveat that this is not talking about real world temperatures. This is another “black box” comparison of the model inputs (presumably sort-of-real-world “forcings” from the sun and volcanoes and aerosols and black carbon and the rest) and the model results. I’m trying to understand what the models do, not how they do it.

Now, I don’t have the ocean forcing data that was used by the models. But I do have Levitus ocean heat content data since 1950, poor as it might be. So I added that to each of the forcing datasets, to make new datasets that do include ocean data. As you might imagine, when some of the recent forcing goes into heating the ocean, the trend of the forcing dataset drops … and as we would expect, the trend ratio (and thus the climate sensitivity) increases. This effect is most pronounced where the forcing dataset has a smaller trend (CM2.1) and less visible at the other end of the scale (CCSM3). Figure 3 shows the same five datasets as in Figure 2, plus the same five datasets with the ocean forcings added. Note that when the forcing dataset contains the heat into/out of the ocean, lambda is the equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS), and when the dataset is just radiative forcing alone, lambda is transient climate response. So the blue dots in Figure 3 are ECS, and the red dots are TCR. The average change (ECS/TCR) is 1.25, which fits with the estimate given in the Otto paper of ~ 1.3.

sensitivity vs trend ratio models tcr ecsFigure 3. Red dots show the models as in Figure 2. Blue dots show the same models, with the addition of the Levitus heat content data to each forcing dataset. Resulting sensitivities are higher for the equilibrium condition than for the transient condition, as would be expected. Blue dots show equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS), while red dots (as in Fig. 2) show the corresponding transient climate response (TCR).

Finally, I ran the five different forcing datasets, with and without ocean forcing, against three actual temperature datasets—HadCRUT4, BEST, and GISS LOTI. I took the data from all of those, and here are the results from the analysis of those 29 individual runs:

lambda vs trend ratio allFigure 4. Large red and blue dots are as in Figure 3. The light blue dots are the result of running the forcings and subsets of the forcings, with and without ocean forcing, and with and without volcano forcing, against actual datasets. Error shown is one sigma. 

So … my new finding is that the climate sensitivity of the models, both individual models and on average, is equal to the ratio of the trends of the forcing and the resulting temperatures. This is true whether or not the changes in ocean heat content are included in the calculation. It is true for both forcings vs model temperature results, as well as forcings run against actual temperature datasets. It is also true for subsets of the forcing, such as volcanoes alone, or for just GHG gases.

And not only did I find this relationship experimentally, by looking at the results of using the one-line equation on models and model results. I then found that can derive this relationship mathematically from the one-line equation (see Appendix D for details).

This is a clear confirmation of an observation first made by Kiehl in 2007, when he suggested an inverse relationship between forcing and sensitivity.

The question is: if climate models differ by a factor of 2 to 3 in their climate sensitivity, how can they all simulate the global temperature record with a reasonable degree of accuracy. Kerr [2007] and S. E. Schwartz et al. (Quantifying climate change–too rosy a picture?, available [here]) recently pointed out the importance of understanding the answer to this question. Indeed, Kerr [2007] referred to the present work, and the current paper provides the ‘‘widely circulated analysis’’ referred to by Kerr [2007]. This report investigates the most probable explanation for such an agreement. It uses published results from a wide variety of model simulations to understand this apparent paradox between model climate responses for the 20th century, but diverse climate model sensitivity.

However, Kiehl ascribed the variation in sensitivity to a difference in total forcing, rather than to the trend ratio, and as a result his graph of the results is much more scattered.

kiehl sensitivity vs total forcingFigure 5. Kiehl results, comparing climate sensitivity (ECS) and total forcing. Note that unlike Kiehl, my results cover both equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) and transient climate response (TCR).

Anyhow, there’s a bunch more I could write about this finding, but I gotta just get this off my head and get back to my day job. A final comment.

Since I began this investigation, the commenter Paul_K has since written two outstanding posts on the subject over at Lucia’s marvelous blog, The Blackboard (Part 1, Part 2). In those posts, he proves mathematically that given what we know about the equation that replicates the climate models, that we cannot … well, I’ll let him tell it in his own words:

The Question:  Can you or can you not estimate Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS) from  120 years of temperature and OHC data  (even) if the forcings are known?

The Answer is:  No.  You cannot.  Not unless other information is used to constrain the estimate.

An important corollary to this is:- The fact that a GCM can match temperature and heat data tells us nothing about the validity of that GCM’s estimate of Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity.

Note that this is not an opinion of Paul_K’s. It is a mathematical result of the fact that even if we use a more complex “two-box” model, we can’t constrain the sensitivity estimates. This is a stunning and largely unappreciated conclusion. The essential problem is that for any given climate model, we have more unknowns than we have fundamental equations to constrain them.

CONCLUSIONS

Well, it was obvious from my earlier work that the models were useless for either hindcasting or forecasting the climate. They function indistinguishably from a simple one-line equation.

On top of that, Paul_K has shown that they can’t tell us anything about the sensitivity, because the equation itself is poorly constrained.

Finally, in this work I’ve shown that the climate sensitivity “lambda” that the models do exhibit, whether it represents equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) or transient climate response (TCR), is nothing but the ratio of the trends of the input and the output. The choice of forcings, models and datasets is quite immaterial. All the models give the same result for lambda, and that result is the ratio of the trends of the forcing and the response. This most recent finding completely explains the inability of the modelers to narrow the range of possible climate sensitivities despite thirty years of modeling.

You can draw your own conclusions from that, I’m sure …

My regards to all,

w.

Appendix A : The One-Line Equation

The equation that Paul_K, Isaac Held, and I have used to replicate the climate models is as follows:

OLE equation 1

Let me break this into four chunks, separated by the equals sign and the plus signs, and translate each chunk from math into English. Equation 1 means:

This year’s temperature (T1) is equal to

Last years temperature (T0) plus

Climate sensitivity (λ) times this year’s forcing change (∆F1) times (one minus the lag factor) (1-a) plus

Last year’s temperature change (∆T0) times the same lag factor (a)

Or to put it another way, it looks like this:

T1 =                      <—  This year’s temperature [ T1 ] equals

    T0 +                  <—  Last year’s temperature [ T0 ] plus

    λ  ∆F1  (1-a) +    <— How much radiative forcing is applied this year [ ∆F1 (1-a) ],  times climate sensitivity lambda ( λ ), plus

    ∆T0  a                 <— The remainder of the forcing, lagged out over time as specified by the lag factor “a

The lag factor “a” is a function of the time constant “tau” ( τ ), and is given by

OLE equation 1a

This factor “a” is just a constant number for a given calculation. For example, when the time constant “tau” is four years, the constant “a” is 0.78. Since 1 – a = 0.22, when tau is four years, about 22% of the incoming forcing is added immediately to last years temperature, and rest of the input pulse is expressed over time.

Appendix B: Physical Meaning

So what does all of that mean in the real world? The equation merely reflects that when you apply heat to something big, it takes a while for it to come up to temperature. For example, suppose we have a big brick in a domestic oven at say 200°C. Suppose further that we turn the oven heat up suddenly to 400° C for an hour, and then turn the oven back down to 200°C. What happens to the temperature of the big block of steel?

If we plot temperature against time, we see that initially the block of steel starts to heat fairly rapidly. However as time goes on it heats less and less per unit of time until eventually it reaches 400°C. Figure B2 shows this change of temperature with time, as simulated in my spreadsheet for a climate forcing of plus/minus one watt/square metre. Now, how big is the lag? Well, in part that depends on how big the brick is. The larger the brick, the longer the time lag will be. In the real planet, of course, the ocean plays the part of the brick, soaking up

The basic idea of the one-line equation is the same tired claim of the modelers. This is the claim that the changing temperature of the surface of the planet is linearly dependent on the size of the change in the forcing. I happen to think that this is only generally the rule, and that the temperature is actually set by the exceptions to the rule. The exceptions to this rule are the emergent phenomena of the climate—thunderstorms, El Niño/La Niña effects and the like. But I digress, let’s follow their claim for the sake of argument and see what their models have to say. It turns out that the results of the climate models can be described to 99% accuracy by the setting of two parameters—”tau”,  or the time constant, and “lambda”, or the climate sensitivity. Lambda can represent either transient sensitivity, called TCR for “transient climate response”, or equilibrium sensitivity, called ECS for “equilibrium climate sensitivity”.

one line equation on pulseFigure B2. One-line equation applied to a square-wave pulse of forcing. In this example, the sensitivity “lambda” is set to unity (output amplitude equals the input amplitude), and the time constant “tau” is set at five years.

Note that the lagging does not change the amount of energy in the forcing pulse. It merely lags it, so that it doesn’t appear until a later date.

So that is all the one-line equation is doing. It simply applies the given forcing, using the climate sensitivity to determine the amount of the temperature change, and using the time constant “tau” to determine the lag of the temperature change. That’s it. That’s all.

The difference between ECS (climate sensitivity) and TCR (transient response) is whether slow heating and cooling of the ocean is taken into account in the calculations. If the slow heating and cooling of the ocean is taken into account, then lambda is equilibrium climate sensitivity. If  the ocean doesn’t enter into the calculations, if the forcing is only the radiative forcing, then lambda is transient climate response.

Appendix C. The Spreadsheet

In order to be able to easily compare the various forcings and responses, I made myself up an Excel spreadsheet. It has a couple drop-down lists that let me select from various forcing datasets and various response datasets. Then I use the built-in Excel function “Solver” to iteratively calculate the best combination of the two parameters, sensitivity and time constant, so that the result matches the response. This makes it quite simple to experiment with various combinations of forcing and responses. You can see the difference, for example, between the GISS E model with and without volcanoes. It also has a button which automatically stores the current set of results in a dataset which is slowly expanding as I do more experiments.

In a previous post called Retroactive Volcanoes, (link) I had discussed the fact that Otto et al. had smoothed the Forster forcings dataset using a centered three point average. In addition they had added a trend fromthe beginning tothe end of the dataset of 0.3 W per square meter. In that post I had I had said that the effect of that was unknown, although it might be large. My new spreadsheet allows me to actually determine what the effect of that actually is.

It turns out that the effect of those two small changes is to take the indicated climate sensitivity from 2.8 degrees/doubling to 2.3° per doubling.

One of the strangest findings to come out of this spreadsheet was that when the climate models are compared each to their own results, the climate sensitivity is a simple linear function of the ratio of the trends of the forcing and the response. This was true of both the individual models, and the average of the 19 models studied by Forster. The relationship is extremely simple. The climate sensitivity lambda is 1.07 times the ratio of the trends for the models alone, and equal to the trends when compared to all the results. This is true for  all of the models without adding in the ocean heat content data, and also all of the models including the ocean heat content data.

In any case I’m going to have to convert all this to the computer language R. Thanks to Stephen McIntyre, I learned the computer language R and have never regretted it. However, I still do much of my initial exploratory forays in Excel. I can make Excel do just about anything, so for quick and dirty analyses like the results above I use Excel.

So as an invitation to people to continue and expand this analysis, my spreadsheet is available here. Note that it contains a macro to record the data from a given analysis. At present it contains the following data sets:

IMPULSES

Pinatubo in 1900

Step Change

Pulse

FORCINGS

Forster No Volcano

Forster N/V-Ocean

Otto Forcing

Otto-Ocean ∆

Levitus watts Ocean Heat Content ∆

GISS Forcing

GISS-Ocean ∆

Forster Forcing

Forster-Ocean ∆

DVIS

CM2.1 Forcing

CM2.1-Ocean ∆

GISS No Volcano

GISS GHGs

GISS Ozone

GISS Strat_H20

GISS Solar

GISS Landuse

GISS Snow Albedo

GISS Volcano

GISS Black Carb

GISS Refl Aer

GISS Aer Indir Eff

RESPONSES

CCSM3 Model Temp

CM2.1 Model Temp

GISSE ModelE Temp

BEST Temp

Forster Model Temps

Forster Model Temps No Volc

Flat

GISS Temp

HadCRUT4

You can insert your own data as well or makeup combinations of any of the forcings. I’ve included a variety of forcings and responses. This one-line equation model has forcing datasets, subsets of those such as volcanoes only or aerosols only, and the simple impulses such as a square step.

Now, while this spreadsheet is by no means user-friendly, I’ve tried to make it at least not user-aggressive.

Appendix D: The Mathematical Derivation of the Relationship between Climate Sensitivity and the Trend Ratio.

I have stated that the relationship where climate sensitivity is equal to the ratio between trends of the forcing and response datasets.

We start with the one-line equation:

OLE equation 1

Let us consider the situation of a linear trend in the forcing, where the forcing is ramped up by a certain amount every year. Here are lagged results from that kind of forcing.

lagged results ramp forcing

Figure B1. A steady increase in forcing over time (red line), along with the situation with the time constant (tau) equal to zero, and also a time constant of 20 years. The residual is offset -0.6 degrees for clarity.

Note that the only difference that tau (the lag time constant) makes is how long it takes to come to equilibrium. After that the results stabilize, with the same change each year in both the forcing and the temperature (∆F and ∆T). So let’s consider that equilibrium situation.

Subtracting T0 from both sides gives

OLE equation 3a

Now, T1 minus T0 is simply ∆T1. But since at equilibrium all the annual temperature changes are the same, ∆T1 = ∆T0 = ∆T, and the same is true for the forcing. So equation 2 simplifies to

OLE equation 4a

Dividing by ∆F gives us

OLE equation 5actual

Collecting terms, we get

OLE equation 6

And dividing through by (1-a) yields

OLE equation 7actual

Now, out in the equilibrium area on the right side of Figure B1, ∆T/∆F is the actual trend ratio. So we have shown that at equilibrium

OLE equation 8

But if we include the entire dataset, you’ll see from Figure B1 that the measured trend will be slightly less than the trend at equilibrium.

And as a result, we would expect to find that lambda is slightly larger than the actual trend ratio. And indeed, this is what we found for the models when compared to their own results, lambda = 1.07 times the trend ratio.

When the forcings are run against real datasets, however, it appears that the greater variability of the actual temperature datasets averages out the small effect of tau on the results, and on average we end up with the situation shown in Figure 4 above, where lambda is experimentally determined to be equal to the trend ratio.

Appendix E: The Underlying Math

The best explanation of the derivation of the math used in the spreadsheet is an appendix to Paul_K’s post here. Paul has contributed hugely to my analysis by correcting my mistakes as I revealed them, and has my great thanks.

Climate Modeling – Abstracting the Input Signal by Paul_K

I will start with the (linear) feedback equation applied to a single capacity system—essentially the mixed layer plus fast-connected capacity:

C dT/dt = F(t) – λ *T                                                            Equ.  A1

Where:-

C is the heat capacity of the mixed layer plus fast-connected capacity (Watt-years.m-2.degK-1)

T is the change in temperature from time zero  (degrees K)

T(k) is the change in temperature from time zero to the end of the kth year

t is time  (years)

F(t) is the cumulative radiative and non-radiative flux “forcing” applied to the single capacity system  (Watts.m-2)

λ  is the first order feedback parameter (Watts.m-2.deg K-1)

We can solve Equ A1 using superposition.  I am going to use  timesteps of one year.

Let the forcing increment applicable to the jth year be defined as fj.   We can therefore write

F(t=k )  = Fk =  Σ fj       for j = 1 to k                                Equ. A2

The temperature contribution from the forcing increment fj at the end of the kth

year is given by

ΔTj(t=k) =  fj(1 – exp(-(k+1-j)/τ))/λ                                                     Equ.A3

where τ is set equal to C/λ   .

By superposition, the total temperature change at time t=k is given by the summation of all such forcing increments.  Thus

T(t=k) = Σ fj * (1 – exp(-(k+1-j)/τ))/ λ     for j = 1 to k                                   Equ.A4

Similarly, the total temperature change at time t= k-1 is given by

T(t=k-1) =  Σ fj (1 – exp(-(k-j)/τ))/ λ         for j = 1 to k-1                               Equ.A5

Subtracting Equ. A4 from Equ. A5 we obtain:

T(k) – T(k-1) = fk*[1-exp(-1/τ)]/λ    +  ( [1 – exp(-1/τ)]/λ ) (Σfj*exp(-(k-j)/τ) for j = 1 to k-1)     …Equ.A6

We note from Equ.A5 that

(Σfj*exp(-(k-j)/τ)/λ for j = 1 to k-1)  =  ( Σ(fj/λ ) for j = 1 to k-1)   – T(k-1)

Making this substitution, Equ.A6 then becomes:

T(k) – T(k-1) = fk*[1-exp(-1/τ)]/λ    + [1 – exp(-1/τ)]*[( Σ(fj/λ ) for j = 1 to k-1)   – T(k-1)]      …Equ.A7

If we now set α = 1-exp(-1/τ) and make use of Equ.A2, we can rewrite Equ A7 in the following simple form:

T(k) – T(k-1) = Fkα /λ   – α * T(k-1)                                          Equ.A8

Equ.A8 can be used for prediction of temperature from a known cumulative forcing series, or can be readily used to determine the cumulative forcing series from a known temperature dataset.  From the cumulative forcing series, it is a trivial step to abstract the annual incremental forcing data by difference.

For the values of α and λ, I am going to use values which are conditioned to the same response sensitivity of temperature to flux changes as  the GISS-ER Global Circulation Model (GCM).

These values are:-

α  = 0.279563

λ    = 2.94775

Shown below is a plot confirming that  Equ. A8 with these values of alpha and lamda can reproduce the GISS-ER model results with good accuracy.  The correlation is >0.99.

This same governing equation has been applied to at least two other GCMs ( CCSM3 and GFDL ) and, with similar parameter values, works equally well to emulate those model results. While changing the parameter values modifies slightly the values of the fluxes calculated from temperature , it does not significantly change the structural form of the input signal, and nor can it change the primary conclusion of this article, which is that the AGW signal cannot be reliably extracted from the temperature series.

Equally, substituting a more generalised non-linear form for Equ A1 does not change the results at all, provided that the parameters chosen for the non-linear form are selected to show the same sensitivity over the actual observed temperature range. (See here for proof.)

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Adam
June 3, 2013 8:13 pm

It is a nice result and show that all of the current related modelling related to the Global Temperature vs Co2 predictions can be boiled down to a simple equation and does not require a supercomputer. Bad news for those grant holders, but I am sure they will find a way to justify further financing – that is what they are good at after all!
The point of the 3D weather models (yes, originally they were *weather* models) was (originally) to be able to simulate the distribution in space and the evolution in time of weather variables given an observational starting state. It was well understood that this can work out to a few days, but not much further than a couple of weeks.
Somewhere down the line somebody forgot that even with a system such as 5 snooker balls hitting into each other it becomes physically impossible (i.e. Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle kicks in) to specify the starting conditions to a degree fine enough to predict what will happen next.
Okay, with a Climate Model it is not as bad, because the model system is much more stable. I.e. it is a heavily damped system containing mainly negative feed-backs. But still, nobody should expect to be able to calculate what the climate will be like 50 years from now. This is the main thing I don’t understand, is how anybody can think that it is possible to put a few grid cells together and run them forward in relatively massive time steps for a period of 50 years+ and expect to get a meaningful result out the other end. Yes, you can do it, but no, it will not be related to the real climate at all. The real climate is *not* a bunch of static grid cells exchanging energy and moisture and no matter how many grid cells you use as a model, you will always get the wrong answer. The answer you will get is: If the climate system can be modeled this way, then what will happen? But it cannot be modeled that way.
“G-d did not create the universe out of static grid cells exchanging heat and moisture content”.

OssQss
June 3, 2013 8:14 pm

Willis,
It has not been a fun time for modelers, especially when that stuff comes back to haunt our established government policies driven by such !
Reminds me of something>

Jon
June 3, 2013 8:16 pm

Is Willis claiming that different climate models estimate different climate sensitivities merely because the forcing scenarios are different?

Theo Goodwin
June 3, 2013 8:17 pm

Nick Stokes says:
June 3, 2013 at 2:46 pm
“Buried within them is energy conservation, which is the basis of the simple relations, as Roy Spencer says. Modellers do surely know that – they put a lot of effort into ensuring that mass and energy are conserved. But there are innumerable force balance relations too.”
We are interested in that particular physical theory that is climate theory. Is the set of statements that represent the relationships between forcings and feedbacks buried deep within the model? What work does it do? What are statements that create the theoretical context that defines “climate sensitivity?” Where are they buried? What work do they do? Why haven’t these statements be shown to the public?

Theo Goodwin
June 3, 2013 8:20 pm

Willis Eschenbach says:
June 3, 2013 at 1:09 pm
Spot on. Smashing response to one of my heroes who happens to be a very good climate scientist. Keep on with the good work.

Nick Stokes
June 3, 2013 8:28 pm

Willis,
“Your original claim was wrong. I would advise you to say “Admit it and move on”, but I know that’s not in your lexicon.”
You haven’t even said what claim was wrong. I simply pointed out a calculus rule which explains your result.
You are yourself not good at admitting error. In your last thread, we got to a stage where your spreadsheet turned out to have forcings where the model temperature should have been, and the latter wasn’t there at all. And as Ken Gregory showed, the graph you drew showing volcano responses was quite wrong.
Explained? Corrected? No, no response at all. You disappeared.

Eric Barnes
June 3, 2013 8:32 pm

The climate identity function, at a price and quantity only government funded bureaucrats could love.

wayne Job
June 3, 2013 8:33 pm

Thank you Willis, I take away two things from this post. 1] If the climate modelers did not know what you have discovered, fine, if they did know, they really are disgraceful. 2] Could you use this equation, changing the forcings to make a fit of the real world temperate graph?

Venter
June 3, 2013 8:44 pm

Absolutely brilliant work, Wilis.
And an absolutely brilliant deconstruction of cryptic sour grapes comments and racehorse obfuscations.

Leonard Weinstein
June 3, 2013 8:52 pm

Physics_of_Climate says:
If what you say is true, then Venus would have the same surface temperature even if the Sun were not there! This is pure nonsense. The Lapse rate is a gradient, not temperature level, and something has to force a temperature level somewhere along the lapse rate curve. If there were no greenhouse effect (including clouds), the surface temperature would be set by surface insolation and surface emissivity, and the atmosphere presence would not change that surface level. What the greenhouse gas does is raise the altitude where the absorbed solar energy balances the outgoing radiation to space. Then the lapse rate time this altitude is added to the temperature at the balance level.

June 3, 2013 9:03 pm

Thanks, Willis.
A work of genius!
Poor models, they cost so much and show so little for it.

Janice Moore
June 3, 2013 9:15 pm

Dear Luther Wu,
It’s after 11:00PM in Oklahoma, now. Perhaps, you have gone to bed. In case you’re up, just wanted to tell you I am SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE OKAY. “Dear God, please take care of Luther Wu,” I prayed many times this past weekend. I was so glad to see your posts. Forget the nicotine relapse. That is now behind you. Forget what lies behind, and press on.
(No WONDER you wanted to light up! — Holy Cow, that was terrifying!)

Yes, Grandkids- I was there watching them tear it all down in real time. They were giants in those days.

And so are you, great heart. I am so glad that you are in the world! (and, especially, the WUWT world)
Take care,
Janice
P.S. Thank you so much, dear Mr. Eschenbach, for once again providing your excellent research along with your very patient explanations. For crying out loud, I’m a non-science major and I could follow you better than some of the above posters (some were blinded by pride and in their eagerness to best you made donkeys of themselves, some were just plain lazy) did! Even if I DID have your intellectual abilities, I could NEVER post results as you do so generously — I would absolutely tear into those jerks and only end up demonstrating my own low tolerance for FOOLS. You are to be highly commended. WAY TO GO, MAN!
Just you and your computer… . If I may say so, no. I think Einstein and Galileo and George W. Carver (and a whole crowd of others) were peering over your shoulder as you worked away, hour after hour. And you thought you were all alone. No one who serves the truth works alone.
Since this thread is, I think, dwindling down, I’m going to go ahead and write this next here. I am a Christian. I am ashamed of my fellow believer above, a famous scientist known for his Christian faith, in his selfish, prideful, ungracious, remarks to you. Please, do not conflate us followers and our frequent failings (I’m one of the worst) with our Lord and Savior. He is all loving, all wise, and perfect. “Christians are not perfect — just forgiven.” Thanks for humoring me on this last paragraph. Ever since I read the above referred to scientist’s post, it has weighed on my mind. You shared in your “Not About Me” (and thank you so much for your refreshing candor and honesty — you are an amazingly resilient and caring individual) that you used to be a Buddhist. I don’t know where you are on your faith journey, now, but, thank you for listening to me and my concerns even if you don’t yet know Jesus personally. Yeah, I said, “yet,” LOL, — I’m praying for you (and all the WUWT — “uh, oh,” (or worse!) they are now thinking, or some of them are, heh, heh), Willis Eschenbach.
Take care.
Janice

Janice Moore
June 3, 2013 9:24 pm

“… and all the WUWT bloggers and writers and moderators and, of course, our wonderful host…)

Master_Of_Puppets
June 3, 2013 9:25 pm

Evidence yet again points to a realization. Climate, as defined, does not exist on Earth, i.e. the Theory of Climate Failed by evidence.
Models, i.e. computer code, built specifically to reproduce a nonexistent thing yield nonexistent results !
QED

Janice Moore
June 3, 2013 9:31 pm

Master of Puppets — you are SO funny (and correct, too!). For the enjoyment of our current listening audience, I’ve copied below (edited) the bulk of your hilarious post from Sunday re: the hair-do man (Ben Franklin?):
Given the definition of ‘Climate’ I posit that ‘Climate’ does not exist !, i.e. the Theory Of Climate Failed.
[Gasp Heard ‘Round The Political World]
[Rumblings and Vomitings Within the Royal Society]
[Australia Laughing]
[China and Japan demand a RECOUNT ! NOW ! DAMMIT !]
[Vietnam responding to China: ‘Can’t you read engrish ?’]
[Greenland: Screw You Ha Ha. We signed a big Oil Company Drilling Contract ! Whoop De Do !]
[Saudia Arabia opens the oil valves to flood the markets … ‘Damn the Yanks’ says one of the chosen ones to the lessor of the world]
[Germany: Waite Waite … Our Nuclear Plants … Sniff Sniff … [Tear In Eye] …
Well. Looks like Iron Fist came to fruition. Thanks to my [splendid ;)] cell phone-computer. 🙂
[Hardy Har Har … Monday already arrived !]

LAUGH — OUT — LOUD!

rogerknights
June 3, 2013 9:32 pm

TimTheToolMan says:
June 3, 2013 at 8:10 pm
I think its fairly clear that in 1998 or thereabouts something in the climate changed such that we’ve moved into a period of minimal warming. A tipping point if you like.

A topping point!

Nick Stokes
June 3, 2013 9:40 pm

Theo Goodwin
” Is the set of statements that represent the relationships between forcings and feedbacks buried deep within the model? What work does it do? What are statements that create the theoretical context that defines “climate sensitivity?” Where are they buried?”

No, these statements do not appear anywhere. Forcings of course are supplied. But feedbacks and sensitivity are our mental constructs to understand the results. The computer does not need them. It just balances forces and fluxes, conserves mass and momentum etc.
An electrical circuit is a collection of resistors, capacitors, transistors etc. There is no box in there labelled underneath “feedback”. But the circuit does what it does, and we use the notion of feedback to explain it.

June 3, 2013 9:51 pm

Paul_K’s finding can be summarized by saying that there is no such thing as “the equilibrium climate sensitivity.”

Admin
June 3, 2013 9:52 pm

“An electrical circuit is a collection of resistors, capacitors, transistors etc. There is no box in there labelled underneath “feedback”.”

I don’t think Nick Stokes understands electronics any better than he understands climate.

Nick Stokes
June 3, 2013 9:56 pm

Well, Anthony, could you build that circuit from the diagram?
REPLY: yes, because I know what are in the black boxes. The real question is, could you, Racehorse? – Anthony

Janice Moore
June 3, 2013 10:01 pm

“… I don’t think Nick Stokes understands … .”
Bwah, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaaaaa! #[:)]
He sure doesn’t.

June 3, 2013 10:06 pm

Mosher,
“All forcing’s are radioactive components”
So why is water vapor not a forcing?

TomB
June 3, 2013 10:09 pm

All very well but you haven’t answered my question, “How many angles can stand on the point of a needle?”
Those who consider themselves to be skeptics should consider whether it is possible to be skeptical about something that does not exist. Realist might be a better description.

David
June 3, 2013 10:33 pm

All I know is that ALL THE MODELS ARE WRONG. So whatever linear senstivity they are computing, it is not how the earth responds.

dp
June 3, 2013 10:41 pm

I’m always amazed when someone “discovers” the left side of the equation equals the right side of the equation. This is where Willis shines but it is hard to watch sometimes. You have to admire his enthusiasm, eh.

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