New energy-budget-derived estimates of climate sensitivity and transient response in Nature Geoscience
Guest post by Nic Lewis
Readers may recall that last December I published an informal climate sensitivity study at WUWT, here. The study adopted a heat-balance (energy budget) approach and used recent data, including satellite-observation-derived aerosol forcing estimates. I would like now to draw attention to a new peer-reviewed climate sensitivity study published as a Letter in Nature Geoscience, “Energy budget constraints on climate response”, here. This study uses the same approach as mine, based on changes in global mean temperature, forcing and heat uptake over 100+ year periods, with aerosol forcing adjusted to reflect satellite observations. Headline best estimates of 2.0°C for equilibrium climate sensitivity (ECS) and 1.3°C for the – arguably more policy-relevant – transient climate response (TCR) are obtained, based on changes to the decade 2000–09, which provide the best constrained, and probably most reliable, estimates.
The 5–95% uncertainty ranges are 1.2–3.9°C for ECS and 0.9–2.0°C for TCR. I should declare an interest in this study: you will find my name included in the extensive list of authors: Alexander Otto, Friederike E. L. Otto, Olivier Boucher, John Church, Gabi Hegerl, Piers M. Forster, Nathan P. Gillett, Jonathan Gregory, Gregory C. Johnson, Reto Knutti, Nicholas Lewis, Ulrike Lohmann, Jochem Marotzke, Gunnar Myhre, Drew Shindell, Bjorn Stevens, and Myles R. Allen. I am writing this article in my personal capacity, not as a representative of the author team.
The Nature Geoscience paper, although short, is in my view significant for two particular reasons.
First, using what is probably the most robust method available, it establishes a well-constrained best estimate for TCR that is nearly 30% below the CMIP5 multimodel mean TCR of 1.8°C (per Forster et al. (2013), here). The 95% confidence bound for the Nature Geoscience paper’s 1.3°C TCR best estimate indicates some of the highest-response general circulation models (GCMs) have TCRs that are inconsistent with recent observed changes. Some two-thirds of the CMIP5 models analysed in Forster et. al (2013) have TCRs that lie above the top of the ‘likely’ range for that best estimate, and all the CMIP5 models analysed have an ECS that exceeds the Nature Geoscience paper’s 2.0°C best estimate of ECS. The CMIP5 GCM with the highest TCR, per the Forster et. al (2013) analysis, is the UK Met. Office’s flagship HadGEM2-ES model. It has a TCR of 2.5°C, nearly double the Nature Geoscience paper’s best estimate of 1.3°C and 0.5°C beyond the top of the 5–95% uncertainty range. The paper obtains similar, albeit less well constrained, best estimates using data for earlier periods than 2000–09.
Secondly, the authors include fourteen climate scientists, well known in their fields, who are lead or coordinating lead authors of IPCC AR5 WG1 chapters that are relevant to estimating climate sensitivity. Two of them, professors Myles Allen and Gabi Hegerl, are lead authors for Chapter 10, which deals with estimates of ECS and TCR constrained by observational evidence. The study was principally carried out by a researcher, Alex Otto, who works in Myles Allen’s group.
Very helpfully, Nature’s editors have agreed to make the paper’s main text freely available for a limited period. I would encourage people to read the paper, which is quite short. The details given in the supplementary information (SI) enable the study to be fully understood, and its results replicated. The method used is essentially the same as that employed in my December study, being a more sophisticated version of that used in the Gregory et al. (2002) heat-balance-based climate sensitivity study, here. The approach is to draw sets of samples from the estimated probability distributions applicable to the radiative forcing produced by a doubling of CO2-equivalent greenhouse gas atmospheric concentrations (F2×) and those applicable to the changes in mean global temperature, radiative forcing and Earth system heat uptake (ΔT, ΔF and ΔQ), taking into account that ΔF is closely correlated with F2×. Gaussian (normal) error and internal climate variability distributions are assumed. ECS and TCR values are computed from each set of samples using the equations:
(1) ECS = F2× ΔT / (ΔF − ΔQ) and (2) TCR = F2× ΔT / ΔF .
With sufficient sets of samples, probability density functions (PDFs) for ECS and TCR can then be obtained from narrow-bin histograms, by counting the number of times the computed ECS and TCR values fall in each bin. Care is needed in dealing with samples where any of the factors in the equations are negative, to ensure that each is correctly included at the low or high end when calculating confidence intervals (CIs). Negative factors occur in a modest, but significant, proportion of samples when estimating ECS using data from the 1970s or the 1980s.
Estimates are made for ECS and TCR using ΔT, ΔF and ΔQ derived from data for the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and 1970–2009, relative to that for 1860–79. The estimates from the 2000s data are probably the most reliable, since that decade had the strongest forcing and, unlike the 1990s, was not affected by any major volcanic eruptions. However, although the method used makes allowance for internal climate system variability, the extent to which confidence should be placed in the results from a single decade depends on how well they are corroborated by results from a longer period. It is therefore reassuring that, although somewhat less well constrained, the best estimates of ECS and TCR using data for 1970–2009 are closely in line with those using data for the 2000s. Note that the validity of the TCR estimate depends on the historical evolution of forcing approximating the 70-year linear ramp that the TCR definition involves. Since from the mid-twentieth century onwards greenhouse gas levels rose much faster than previously, that appears to be a reasonable approximation, particularly for changes to the 2000s.
I have modified the R-code I used for my December study so that it computes and plots PDFs for each of the five periods used in the Nature Geoscience study for estimating ECS and TCR. The resulting ECS and TCR graphs, below, are not as elegant as the confidence region graphs in the Nature Geoscience paper, but are in a more familiar form. For presentation purposes, the PDFs (but not the accompanying box-and-whisker plots) have been truncated at zero and the upper limit of the graph and then normalised to unit total probability. Obviously, these charts do not come from the Nature Geoscience paper and are not to be regarded as associated with it. Any errors in them are entirely my own.
The box-and-whisker plots near the bottom of the charts are perhaps more important than the PDF curves. The vertical whisker-end bars and box-ends show (providing they are within the plot boundaries) respectively 5–95% and 17–83% CIs – ‘very likely’ and ‘likely’ uncertainty ranges in IPCC terminology – whilst the vertical bars inside the boxes show the median (50% probability point). For ECS and TCR, whose PDFs are skewed, the median is arguably in general a better central estimate than the mode of the PDF (the location of its peak), which varies according to how skewed and badly-constrained the PDF is. The TCR PDFs (note the halved x-axis scaling), which are unaffected by ΔQ and uncertainty therein, are all better constrained than the ECS PDFs.
The Nature Geoscience ECS estimate based on the most recent data (best estimate 2.0°C, with a 5–95% CI of 1.2–3.9°C) is a little different from that per my very similar December study (best estimate 1.6°C, with a 5–95% CI of 1.0–2.9°C, rounding outwards). The (unstated) TCR estimate implicit in my study, using Equation (2), was 1.3°C, with a 5–95% range of 0.9–2.0°C, precisely in line with the Nature Geoscience paper. In the light of these comparisons, I should perhaps explain the main differences in the data and methodology used in the two studies:
1) The main difference of principle is that the Nature Geoscience study uses GCM-derived estimates of ΔF and F2×. Multimodel means from CMIP5 runs per Forster et al. (2013) can thus be used as a peer-reviewed source of forcings data. ΔF is accordingly based on simulations reflecting the modelled effects of RCP 4.5 scenario greenhouse gas concentrations, aerosol abundances, etc. My study instead used the RCP 4.5 forcings dataset and the F2× figure of 3.71°C reflected in that dataset; I adjusted the projected post-2006 solar and volcanic forcings to conform them with estimated actuals. Use of CMIP5-based forcing data results in modestly lower estimates for both ΔF and F2× (3.44°C for F2×). Since CO2 is the dominant forcing agent, and its concentration is accurately known, the value of ΔF is closely related to the value of F2×. The overall effect of the difference in F2× on the estimates of ECS and TCR is therefore small. As set out in the SI, an adjustment of +0.3 Wm−2 to 2010 forcing was made in the Nature Geoscience study in the light of recent satellite-observation constrained estimates of aerosol forcing. On the face of it, the resulting aerosol forcing is slightly more negative than that used in my December study.
2) The Nature Geoscience study derives ΔQ using the change in estimated 0–2000 m ocean heat content (OHC) – which accounts for most of the Earth system heat uptake – from the start to the end of the relevant decade (or 1970–2009), whereas I computed a linear regression slope estimate using data for all years in the period I took (2002–11). Whilst I used the NODC/NOAA OHC data, which corresponds to Levitus et al. (2012), here, for the entire 0–2000 m ocean layer, the Nature Geoscience study splits that layer between 0–700 m and 700–2000 m. It retains the NODC/NOAA Levitus OHC data for the 700–2000 m layer but uses a different dataset for 0–700 m OHC – an update from Domingues et al. (2008), here.
3) The periods used for the headline results differ slightly. I used changes from 1871–80 to 2002–11, whilst the Nature Geoscience study uses changes from 1860–79 to 2000–09. The effects are very small if the CMIP5 GCM-derived forcing estimates are used, but when employing the RCP 4.5 forcings, switching to using changes from 1860–79 to 2000–09 increases the ECS and TCR estimates by around 0.05°C.
Since the Nature Geoscience study and my December study give identical estimates of TCR, which are unaffected by ΔQ, the difference in their estimates of ECS must come primarily from use of different ΔQ figures. The difference between the ECS uncertainty ranges of the two studies likewise almost entirely reflects the different central estimates for ΔQ they use. The ECS central estimate and 5–95% uncertainty range per my December heat-balance/energy budget study were closely in line with the preferred main results estimate for ECS, allowing for additional forcing etc. uncertainties, per my recent Journal of Climate paper, of 1.6°C with a 5–95% uncertainty range of 1.0–3.0°C. That paper used a more complex method which, although less robust, avoided reliance on external estimates of aerosol forcing.
The take-home message from this study, like several other recent ones, is that the ‘very likely’ 5–95% ranges for ECS and TCR in Chapter 12 of the leaked IPCC AR5 second draft scientific report, of 1.5–6/7°C for ECS and 1–3°C for TCR, and the most likely values of near 3°C for ECS and near 1.8°C for TCR, are out of line with instrumental-period observational evidence.
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Here’s a figure of interest from from the SI file – Anthony
Fig. S3| Sensitivity of 95th percentile of TCR to the best estimate and standard error of the change in forcing from the 2000s to the 1860-1879 reference period. The shaded contours show the 95th percentile boundary of the TCR confidence interval, the triangles show cases (black and blue) from the sensitivity Table S2, and a smaller adjustment to aerosol forcing for comparison (red).

Here is a depiction of how the new climate sensivity in Otto 2013 and in Nic’s paper would play out to the year 2100 versus the previous global warming forecasts. This is the 2.0C per doubling Equilibrium climate sensitivity scenario (I’m still in the camp which is around 1.5C).
One would have to say it is a significant lowering.
http://s22.postimg.org/l5xkh5zch/Otto_2013_Sensitivity.png
Kristian
“It pulls global temperatures stepwise down whenever it’s in a negative phase”
The point is, it doesn’t
I have already shown you what an ENSO-only ‘should’ look like,
http://virakkraft.com/Hadcrut4-Nino34-detrended.png
but temps didn’t drop that much 40-70 and after 2000, because of the CO2 maybe.
Solar also played a part but it’s hard to imagine it’s all solar.
Its about half solar. See
Global warming made simple
http://lowaltitudeclouds.blogspot.com/
@kristian
“Or you could just let the data decide.”
You’re funny! Data as such doesn’t decide anything. It’s in the interpretation of data and different theoretical hypotheses about the data where it may make a difference.
“All climate sensitivity studies simply take for granted that the warming is due to CO2.”
Not true.
“Tisdale (well, the real-world data actually) shows that it’s not.”
Has Tisdale shown that the radiative properties of CO2 were mistaken? Very funny!
“It’s very clearly ocean cycles (ENSO) and the Sun.”
Is this an interpretation of the data? A model maybe? Has it been formally written down? Where can I find its workings?
“And that’s it.”
Argument by assertion. That’s it
lgl says, May 22, 2013 at 7:28 am:
“Kristian
“It pulls global temperatures stepwise down whenever it’s in a negative phase”
The point is, it doesn’t”
It sure does:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/TrinnKaplan_zps384be1b2.png
(NINO3.4 (pale blue) x0.1 vs. global SSTA (red), 1948-2003 (Kaplan))
Discussed here:
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/the-natural-warming-of-the-global-oceans-videos-parts-1-2/#comment-6445
“I have already shown you what an ENSO-only ‘should’ look like (…)”
Why do I bother? Are you ever going to listen? NINO3.4 IS NOT ENSO! NINO3.4 merely represents the eastern part of the ENSO process. Therefore it does not and cannot capture its entire signal. I’ve already shown you this. Tisdale sure has. I’ve also shown you the full ENSO signal. Its western sector (the warm pool region) constitutes an equally integral part of the phenomenon as a whole, being directly and intimately (and inversely) oceanically linked with the East Pacific. It of course needs to be included. And the data shows why.
If you keep mistaking NINO3.4 for ENSO, you will naturally never get or see the absolute hold of the ENSO phenomenon (through its sheer magnitude) on global climate. This has been Tisdale’s main point pretty much since day one. It is still being actively ignored. By the likes of you.
“(…) but temps didn’t drop that much 40-70 and after 2000, because of the CO2 maybe. Solar also played a part but it’s hard to imagine it’s all solar.”
What kind of argumentation is this, lgl? ‘Because of the CO2 maybe‘?! ‘It’s hard to imagine it’s all solar’?! It’s your job to show us the indisputable contribution of CO2 in all this. We know the Sun can and does heat the ocean. It’s an everyday experience. We sure do not know CO2 can do the same. If you claim it can, then show us how that works in the real world. And where we can see its distinct results. (During the last 40+ years global warming happened at three abrupt instances and not at any other times. Is that the ‘CO2 maybe’ signal, lgl?) Otherwise, why should your personally intuitive position on CO2’s role be at all taken seriously?
Kristian
Nino3.4 is often being user as a proxy for ENSO, like this: http://ggweather.com/enso/oni.htm
SST for 40S-40N, 80E-80W never has and never will be used as a proxy for ENSO.
Your first link shows just what I said. Global SST didn’t drop relative to Nino3.4 1948-1976 but it increased a lot after 1976.
We know that CO2 does heat the ocean because it is a ghg. The surface receives ~200 W/m2 ‘raw’ energy from the sun, but emits ~500 W/m2. The difference is mainly supplied by ghgs, it’s being measured every day. The CO2 signal is the trend (or part of)
There is no contradiction between that and ‘step-warming’. Apparently that’s how nature works. Warming in steps and cooling slowly in between. What we are observing is cooling to slowly.
lgl says:
May 24, 2013 at 9:19 am
The surface receives ~200 W/m2 ‘raw’ energy from the sun, but emits ~500 W/m2. The difference is mainly supplied by ghgs, it’s being measured every day. The CO2 signal is the trend (or part of)
The surface receives about 1000 W/m2 at the tropics during the day from the sun. The ocean does not emit 500 W/m2, this is pure nonsense.
That would mean that the ocean has at least an average of 307°K overall the surface (34°C!) .
The energy comes from the Sun – here is the breakdown and how it gets distributed in net heat transfer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Breakdown_of_the_incoming_solar_energy.svg
Greenhouse gases influence the net heat transfer of the small orange arrow on the right side marked ‘radiation absorbed by atmosphere’.
“Back-radiation” is no net heat transfer but part of the radiation transfer inside the atmosphere. The net heat transfer based on CO2 is very small, not even calculated.
The greenhouse theory assumes the apparition of a hot spot in the tropics that should warm the surface below. There is no hot spot.
lgl says, May 24, 2013 at 9:19 am:
Why are you playing obtuse, lgl? Why so eager to deny the obvious (by real-world data)? Go read Tisdale. Your confusion here clearly reveals that you have no idea what he is actually saying. And it sure reveals that you have absolutely no understanding of what ENSO is and does. You’re just parroting the consensus. And seem content with that. Good for you.
“Nino3.4 is often being user as a proxy for ENSO (…)”
Yes, it is a proxy for the state of ENSO. Whether the conditions are per definition ‘neutral’, ‘positive’ (El Niño) or ‘negative’ (La Niña). Nothing else. ‘NINO3.4 SSTA’ is just that, the SST anomalies for the equatorial NINO3.4 region (5N-5S, 170-120W).
The ENSO process, however, is not fully represented by NINO3.4. It couldn’t be. ENSO is a grand-scale coupled oceanic/atmospheric natural Pacific phenomenon that plays out across an area vastly larger than the NINO3.4 region. It has two inversely related pendulum sectors, East and West. That’s the ‘extended NINO3.4 sector’ (East) and the ‘extended Warm Pool sector’ (West). These two sectors are equal parts of ENSO, lgl: http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/VvsiSt_zps0342926b.jpg
Together they make up the ENSO signal.
In addition to these directly oceanically linked sectors of the global ocean, the ENSO region controls the general SST evolution of the Indian and (North) Atlantic Oceans through atmospheric teleconnections. The response to the ENSO signal by these ‘distal regions’ is lagged, but follows and consolidates it.
“SST for 40S-40N, 80E-80W never has and never will be used as a proxy for ENSO.”
Seeing how the ENSO process works and is propagated on a truly global level, global temperatures would actually constitute the best proxy for ENSO. Tropical/subtropical Pacific and East Indian SSTs come in a very good second.
“Your first link shows just what I said. Global SST didn’t drop relative to Nino3.4 1948-1976 but it increased a lot after 1976.”
It dropped twice from NINO3.4 during the epoch 1945-78: 1945/46 and 1964/65. Only it rose back in 1957/58 (and 1978/79). And hence it didn’t manage to fall down three steps, just one in total. Didn’t you read the discussion?
“We know that CO2 does heat the ocean (…)”
No, we do not. ‘We’ assert a lot. But ‘we’ do not document. But by all means, do show.
“(…) because it is a ghg.”
So, it heats because … it heats, is that it? CO2 absorbs specific IR wavelengths. This in no way provides occasion for you to claim ‘Ergo, it heats the ocean’.
“The surface receives ~200 W/m2 ‘raw’ energy from the sun (…)”
No, it receives on average ~165 W/m^2 worth of heat flux from the Sun.
“(…) but emits ~500 W/m2.”
Of course not. It sheds just as much heat as it receives: ~165 W/m^2, of which only 50-60 W/m^2 is through thermal radiation.
“The difference is mainly supplied by ghgs (…)”
No. There is no ‘difference’ to be ‘supplied’. There is balance at 165 IN, 165 OUT. And that’s that.
“(…) it’s being measured every day.”
Nope. The heat flux is what’s measured every day. The other (individual) fluxes are simply assumed, inferred, calculated from this.
“The CO2 signal is the trend (or part of)”
Again, there’s no use simply asserting this. You have not even attempted to justify such a claim. You need to show it. The longterm trend is clearly solar:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/TempgldetrvsSSNkumul_zps489f73b0.png
“There is no contradiction between that and ‘step-warming’. Apparently that’s how nature works.”
Yes, nature apparently works by ‘step-warming’. And it’s caused by ENSO-processes, which Tisdale has shown ad nauseam and which the real-world data backs up completely. What the real-world data does not back up at all is the claim that CO2 would have any causal influence at any temporal or spatial level whatsoever on surface temperatures. This is still nothing short of conjecture.
Again I would like for you to provide the CO2 mechanism where it lies in hibernation (having absolutely zero effect on global temperatures) for about 9-12 years and then all of a sudden jumps into action, raising the mean level by 0.15-0.2 degrees in one go over a year or so (but still lagging temperatures). Before it returns back into hiding. And also how this CO2 pulse only occurs during very specific ENSO events, every single time … You perhaps do not know that this is all readily explained through natural ENSO processes, fully accounted for by the data? The upward shifts follow a particular ENSO sequence started in ~1970. It has cycled about three and a half times since then (following the solar cycle). The 1976-79 step corresponded to an abrupt Pacific climate regime shift (the great phasic one). So did the 1988/99 and the 1998/99 steps (modal shifts). Peculiar, don’t you think? Coincidence? Where does CO2 fit in?
“Warming in steps and cooling slowly in between. What we are observing is cooling to slowly.”
Once again, easily explained by decadal cumulative solar input and ocean cycles in combination. CO2 simply has no discernible part in this. There is no sign of it. Anywhere. This is what among others Tisdale has shown, solely referring to observational data. Until you can point to it in the real-world data, CO2’s surface warming effect remains conjecture. It is not science.
Sorry, formatting problems.
Here’s the ‘real’ post:
lgl says, May 24, 2013 at 9:19 am:
Why are you playing obtuse, lgl? Why so eager to deny the obvious (by real-world data)? Go read Tisdale. Your confusion here clearly reveals that you have no idea what he is actually saying. And it sure reveals that you have absolutely no understanding of what ENSO is and does. You’re just parroting the consensus. And seem content with that. Good for you.
“Nino3.4 is often being user as a proxy for ENSO (…)”
Yes, it is a proxy for the state of ENSO. Whether the conditions are per definition ‘neutral’, ‘positive’ (El Niño) or ‘negative’ (La Niña). Nothing else. ‘NINO3.4 SSTA’ is just that, the SST anomalies for the equatorial NINO3.4 region (5N-5S, 170-120W).
The ENSO process, however, is not fully represented by NINO3.4. It couldn’t be. ENSO is a grand-scale coupled oceanic/atmospheric natural Pacific phenomenon that plays out across an area vastly larger than the NINO3.4 region. It has two inversely related pendulum sectors, East and West. That’s the ‘extended NINO3.4 sector’ (East) and the ‘extended Warm Pool sector’ (West). These two sectors are equal parts of ENSO, lgl: http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/VvsiSt_zps0342926b.jpg
Together they make up the ENSO signal.
In addition to these directly oceanically linked sectors of the global ocean, the ENSO region controls the general SST evolution of the Indian and (North) Atlantic Oceans through atmospheric teleconnections. The response to the ENSO signal by these ‘distal regions’ is lagged, but follows and consolidates it.
“SST for 40S-40N, 80E-80W never has and never will be used as a proxy for ENSO.”
Seeing how the ENSO process works and is propagated on a truly global level, global temperatures would actually constitute the best proxy for ENSO. Tropical/subtropical Pacific and East Indian SSTs come in a very good second.
“Your first link shows just what I said. Global SST didn’t drop relative to Nino3.4 1948-1976 but it increased a lot after 1976.”
It dropped twice from NINO3.4 during the epoch 1945-78: 1945/46 and 1964/65. Only it rose back in 1957/58 (and 1978/79). And hence it didn’t manage to fall down three steps, just one in total. Didn’t you read the discussion?
“We know that CO2 does heat the ocean (…)”
No, we do not. ‘We’ assert a lot. But ‘we’ do not document. But by all means, do show.
“(…) because it is a ghg.”
So, it heats because … it heats, is that it? CO2 absorbs specific IR wavelengths. This in no way provides occasion for you to claim ‘Ergo, it heats the ocean’.
“The surface receives ~200 W/m2 ‘raw’ energy from the sun (…)”
No, it receives on average ~165 W/m^2 worth of heat flux from the Sun.
“(…) but emits ~500 W/m2.”
Of course not. It sheds just as much heat as it receives: ~165 W/m^2, of which only 50-60 W/m^2 is through thermal radiation.
“The difference is mainly supplied by ghgs (…)”
No. There is no ‘difference’ to be ‘supplied’. There is balance at 165 IN, 165 OUT. And that’s that.
“(…) it’s being measured every day.”
Nope. The heat flux is what’s measured every day. The other (individual) fluxes are simply assumed, inferred, calculated from this.
“The CO2 signal is the trend (or part of)”
Again, there’s no use simply asserting this. You have not even attempted to justify such a claim. You need to show it. The longterm trend is clearly solar:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/TempgldetrvsSSNkumul_zps489f73b0.png
“There is no contradiction between that and ‘step-warming’. Apparently that’s how nature works.”
Yes, nature apparently works by ‘step-warming’. And it’s caused by ENSO-processes, which Tisdale has shown ad nauseam and which the real-world data backs up completely. What the real-world data does not back up at all is the claim that CO2 would have any causal influence at any temporal or spatial level whatsoever on surface temperatures. This is still nothing short of conjecture.
Again I would like for you to provide the CO2 mechanism where it lies in hibernation (having absolutely zero effect on global temperatures) for about 9-12 years and then all of a sudden jumps into action, raising the mean level by 0.15-0.2 degrees in one go over a year or so (but still lagging temperatures). Before it returns back into hiding. And also how this CO2 pulse only occurs during very specific ENSO events, every single time … You perhaps do not know that this is all readily explained through natural ENSO processes, fully accounted for by the data? The upward shifts follow a particular ENSO sequence started in ~1970. It has cycled about three and a half times since then (following the solar cycle). The 1976-79 step corresponded to an abrupt Pacific climate regime shift (the great phasic one). So did the 1988/99 and the 1998/99 steps (modal shifts). Peculiar, don’t you think? Coincidence? Where does CO2 fit in?
“Warming in steps and cooling slowly in between. What we are observing is cooling to slowly.”
Once again, easily explained by decadal cumulative solar input and ocean cycles in combination. CO2 simply has no discernible part in this. There is no sign of it. Anywhere. This is what among others Tisdale has shown, solely referring to observational data. Until you can point to it in the real-world data, CO2’s surface warming effect remains conjecture. It is not science.
Kristian
“Before it returns back into hiding.”
It isn’t hiding but for periods of time the ‘ocean cycle’ or whatever is equally strong in negative direction so the net can be close to zero. This is so basic we can’t waste time on it. Nor do I want to waste time on the sky dragon nonsense, it’s just too stupid.
95% confidence? Green jelly beans cause acne.
lgl says, May 25, 2013 at 9:31 am:
“It isn’t hiding but for periods of time the ‘ocean cycle’ or whatever is equally strong in negative direction so the net can be close to zero. This is so basic we can’t waste time on it.”
Well, apparently we have to ‘waste time on it’. Because you seem to believe in the veracity of this AGW myth very strongly.
This is the whole point, lgl. There is no ‘net’ between the ocean cycle (ENSO) and CO2.
The global temps simply follow ‘the ocean cycle’ slavishly. It’s not like ENSO since for instance 1998/99 has worked in an equally negative direction from the positive CO2 direction, with the global temps ending up in the middle. No, global temps simply follow 100% the direction of NINO3.4, and 0% the direction of CO2:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/IPCC-trend_zps51d992a9.png
And they do so between each of the upward shifts established in and propagated from the warm pool sector of the ENSO region. Only during these abrupt shifts do global temps part permanently from the NINO3.4. There is no further divergence between the two during the plateaus before and after the steps. This constitutes the entire global warming since 1970:
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r565/Keyell/HadCRUT3vsNINO341970-2013b_zpseeb92025.png
So I ask you again: Where is CO2 hiding between those shifts? And how does it facilitate the shifts when they occur?
Kristian
But there is no reason why ENSO should cause more steps up than down and thereby causing the temps to increase forever.
And I am answering again, CO2 is not hiding, it’s forcing is there all the time and is manifested in the long term positive trend.
lgl says, May 27, 2013 at 7:36 am:
“But there is no reason why ENSO should cause more steps up than down and thereby causing the temps to increase forever.”
You’re still completely avoiding the issue, lgl, reiterated in my previous post (May 26, 2013 at 11:16 am). Instead you’re simply parroting ridiculous SkS talking point strawmen in a sad attempt to distract from it.
“And I am answering again, CO2 is not hiding, it’s forcing is there all the time and is manifested in the long term positive trend.”
It is hiding if it’s not showing up at all, lgl. Stopp asserting its effect as truth. Show it!You just claiming that it manifests itself in the longterm positive trend doesn’t make it so. Where specifically do you see this causal relationship CO2 –> gl temps in the Earth system?
Since 1970, global temperatures have simply followed NINO3.4 + three abrupt upward shifts (79, 88, 98). That’s it. And this during a time of actual global warming, when the atmospheric CO2 content increased faster and allegedly reached (and is still reaching) absolute levels much higher than during any period of the last, was it 800 000 years? And still we don’t see any sign of it, anywhere … Go figure!
How come the entire modern global warming is contained within 3 sudden upward shifts and is nowhere else to be found …? It’s not like temperatures keep on increasing incrementally beyond the natural drivers (pretty much the ocean cycle/ENSO in longterm (and shorter term) combination with the Sun, fuelling it), not even remotely following some subtle ‘background trend’. Such a trend does not exist. Since 1970 the mean level is flat – up – flat – up. Just like ENSO, a function of its processes. Those shifts are directly process-related, lgl. Initiated in the Pacific. This is easily observed in the real-world data.
Read Tisdale.
Kristian
CO2 is warming by reducing the cooling, which is what we are observing. The ocean doesn’t cool down again between the large Ninos.
Net over-all average ocean surface-temperature oscillations including ENSO, PDO, AMO and other named and unnamed oscillations, combined with a proxy that is the time-integral of sunspot numbers (appropriately reduced by the time-integral of radiation from the planet) in an equation calculates all average global temperatures since before 1900 with 90% accuracy.
http://climatechange90.blogspot.com/2013/05/natural-climate-change-has-been.html
Or the integral of AO-NPI, http://virakkraft.com/Hadcrut4NH-AO-NPIintegral.png
Igl,
That is an interesting example of statistical curve fitting and matching provided by Paul at http://www.woodfortrees.org/examples . But look closely at the graph. AO (Arctic Oscillation) and NPI (North Pacific Index) are atmospheric pressure related. HadCRUT4NH is temperature measurement for the Northern Hemisphere. The graph begins in 1920. This may be relevant to understanding how energy moves around the Northern Hemisphere (weather) but there is no apparent connection to average GLOBAL temperature.
The results of simple calculations that show the high sensitivity of average global temperature to tiny changes in low altitude clouds as described at http://lowaltitudeclouds.blogspot.com/ .may provide some insight to average global temperature.
The flat temperature trend since before 2001, while the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide continues its relentless increase, is shown at http://endofgw.blogspot.com/
Atmospheric CO2 increase from 1800 to 2001 was 89.5 ppmv (parts per million by volume). The atmospheric carbon dioxide level has now increased since 2001 by 24.62 ppmv (an amount equal to 27.56% of the increase that took place from 1800 to 2001) (1800, 281.6 ppmv; 2001, 371.13 ppmv; April, 2013, 395.75 ppmv).
No amount of spin can rationalize that the temperature increase to 2001 was caused by a CO2 increase of 89.5 ppmv but that 24.62 ppmv additional CO2 increase had no effect on the average global temperature trend after 2001. This demonstrates that the IPCC and the ‘consensus’ (mob think) are wrong and the global temperature rise that has been called Global Warming was natural and has ended.