Steve Milloy at JunkScience points out what is above the fold in the NYT today – FUD
Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt
Here’s his scan of the front page at right:
Readers may recall my post What 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere looks like where I presented a meme to help people understand that 400 PPM is just a number. A lot of interest was expressed on this thread about t-shirts.
You ask, I provide, in a choice of sizes, styles, and colors:
Order yours here on your favorite garment, mug, or bag here:
http://www.cafepress.com/WattsUpWithThat
UPDATE: I get email showing me that one of the haters has come up with a t-shirt design. this is from “Sou” (no real name given).
She seems genuinely happy that in her world view that her children will die. How sick.
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“400 ppm, it’s the new 350!!!”
A good new slogan for the emotionally damaged 350.org cadres/believers.
stuart L says:
May 11, 2013 at 5:08 pm
Off Topic
but can someone send me a link to a good graph showing the earth’s temperature has not risen in the last 15years
Why settle for 15? See the following where RSS has no slope from December 1996 to April 2013, or 16 years and 5 months.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1996.9/plot/rss/from:1996.9/trend
420 has a nice ring to me!
Its just like the doomsday peopel.
When nothing happens one year, they just say , “oh , we meant next year”
Its a joke and a fart.
oops, I meant “farce”… freudian slip, perhaps.
Anthony Watts says: “@Bob works just fine for me. Might be a browser issue…”
That was it. I changed over to my other browser and presto! All sorts of goodies for sale.
Thanks.
AndyG55 says: May 11, 2013 at 5:50 pm
…Its a joke and a fart.
You were thinking of the NYT headline “Heat Trapping Gas Passes”
Sorry. Not classy enough. My favorite t-shirt is heavy, heavy white with a thick black collar and black *cap* sleeves…. (It’s a pit bull with pearls and lipstick…): Pit Bulls for Palin
I can dress it up, or play it down. I’d like one, but…. …Lady in Red
Rid’n that train.
High on cocaine.
Casey Jones you better … watch yo speed.
Troubles a-head ! ….
Troubles be-hind ! ….
Don’t ja know I think I … just lost my mind. ~~~~~
😀
@lady in red
You can order the design on a shirt, made specifically for women, in a style just like that. Go to the cafepress website link and you’ll see how you can choose the shirt style (see the color selector).
It’s a foolish error to focus especially on Y2K. Y2K was a real and potentially dangerous problem, largely fixed by the dedicated work of thousands of relatively junior IT people carrying out a mind-numbingly boring and thankless task. It had little to do with the roll over from 1999 to 2000: problems occurred both before and after that, arguably the most serious in 2010.
See this: http://fm2x.com/The_Century_Date_Change_Problem.pdf
Getting this wrong risks damaging the sceptic position.
guenier, The Y2K bug was a lot of misleading news reporting. In order for software to have a Y2K problem several things must be true: (1) The software uses BCD (Binary Coded Decimal) for dates and only uses 2 digits for the year. Unix and the MAC OS encodes the date as a binary number and did NOT suffer from the Y2K problem. (2) The software must make use of a date to function. For example, if the software does not care what the date is, like a Word Processor, it does not matter.
Some software did need to be fixed, BUT the scope of the problem was far less that what the news media made it sound like and we never passed the point of no return. Even though many reporters kept saying it up to a year before the Y2K bug. In the case of an embedded system, setting the date back 28 years made the system work correctly as far as the day of the week.
In many ways, the 400 PPM is like the Y2K bug, the scope of the problem is exaggerated endlessly by the news media.
Bob Diaz is right, the Y2K bug was about as big a problem as Alar on apples, or killer bees. Or for that matter, 0.04% CO2.
Right. Like banks hadn’t addressed the issue when generating (for printouts) mortgage and amortization / repayment schedules (into the FUTURE for years unto DECADES) and the like. WOW. I derided it then and I’m deriding it now … sry.
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Ordered!!!
AndyG55 says:
May 11, 2013 at 5:51 pm
oops, I meant “farce”… freudian slip, perhaps.
Andy, very good. Your typical ‘farce’ is made up of 30% Nitrogen, 20% Hydrogen, 20% Methane, 9% Oxygen, 1% Odour . . . . and 20% CO2. Now that’s good inspiration for a T-Shirt . . . .
“Human ‘Bottom-Burps’ (Flatulence) emit 20% CO2. OMG!!! That’s 200,000 ppm!”
Oh, and It’s reassuring that, according to the sensational news spin in the New York Times, that we’re now called ‘Climate Change Contrarians’. Has a less hostile appeal than being branded ‘Denier’. See 3rd from last paragraph.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/11/science/earth/carbon-dioxide-level-passes-long-feared-milestone.html?ref=global-home
In the case of 99.999% of the ’embedded’ uC applications, the uP and the application could give a flip if the date was wrong, mangled or off by a century or a millennia. The date, if any, was used for administrative purposes or reporting functions, not intrinsic in operation or as an operational parameter. Many of the basic uP of the day may (indeed, did, in their support chip set at least e.g. the Z80 CTC chip) have contained within them timers, but these were millisecond-resolution scale timers whose function was more often than not used for timed interrupts or interval measurement for process or immediate operational control. The embedded day/date ‘time’ chips of the day (by the likes of Dallas Semiconductor and the like) also operated on two digits; it was assumed the embedded app could handle (or didn’t care) about the century; if upper echelon data processing couldn’t ‘figure out’ what possible century the ‘data’ was being reported from, there are bigger issues in the IT or data processing organization that need addressing (like ‘applying common sense’) …
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heh
The brain read that as: “Heat-Trapping Gas-Passers” (the NYTimes staff et al) …
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Poor 350.org must be apoplectic.
@Ritchard Howes : 420 is OK I agree, but my driver is 460. But thanks to all of you some of the comments are great!
CO2 ppm is more like the doomsday cults than Y2k..
At least Y2K was a possible theoretical issue.
Doomsday and CO2…….. pure imaginitis. !!
Nothing untoward happened at 350.
Nothing untoward happened at 400,
and nothing untoward will happen at 450,500, 550, 600 etc.
Just more plant growth. and I don’t really see a problem with that..
except it means I have to mow more often. Or get a goat.
Where can I get some of that heat-trapping gas? I’ll never have to use my boiler ever again.
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/rising-co2-level-may-cause-farms-to-fail-29260150.html
anyone else sick of seeing Voodoo science dross like this?? Notice how Stern is now feted as a CC expert. Appalling judgement.
regards
It was in USA Today on April 24:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/04/24/carbon-dioxide-keeling-curve-global-warming/2110445/
The plausibility of the claim rests on CO2 measurement from Mauna Loa back to 1958, and before that only CO2 concentrations from IPCC-certified ice core measurements (which are moving averages and therefore smoothed).
Otherwise there are literally thousands of chemical measurements – error < 3% – which clearly show that CO2 had surpassed 400 ppmv in the 1820s and 1930s:
http://www.biomind.de/nogreenhouse/daten/EE%2018-2_Beck.pdf
Likewise, CO2 measurements based on stomata show concentrations above 400 ppmv less than 5 mil. years go:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/26/co2-ice-cores-vs-plant-stomata/
So it is just another “news alert” based on the “we-ignore-data-that-does-not-fit-our-theory”.
My goodness, this Co2 alarmism has become worse than religion… it is now bordering on cult status!
Why don’t these poor sorry pessimistic ‘carbon-based life forms’ join us optimists and educate themselves on all the beneficial effects of having more Co2 in the atmosphere instead of living in a constant state of depression?